Ethnic Disparities vs Racial Disparities with Zac Kriegman

[@simononeill941]

Hi Coleman, just a request are you able to increase the volume of your microphone or in the recording after? There is a large contrast in volume between you and your guests and your opening music. Love the content.

[@scottnagel4]

Coleman, I am a big fan and love your work, but you need a new video editor. Your video looks great, but if I turn the audio up so I can hear you, the guest is WAY too loud. People won't listen to bad audio, and fixing it is not that hard. Anyway, thanks for being you.

[@luthermckinnon9663]

This episode is unlistenable.

[@ancientfuture9690]

The soccer point is interesting because here in the UK, football is the most popular sport amongst black boys...environment makes a real impression.

[@robertmitchell8868]

True. Baseball would be a better example.

[@drstrangelove09]

Tigger warning: - "there's a biological and hence behavioral difference between men and women" - "crime rate differences are socioeconomic"

[@tylerhoward1075]

Dude you have to do something about the "volume disparities" on ur videos.

[@mattbabb.]

My question is not “Why would you expect parity between groups when we never really see it anyway?”, but rather “Why is perfect parity between groups an a priori good?” So many liberals will talk about perfect representation like it’s clearly ideal, even if we never get there. Why is that ideal? If people are free to choose where the end up, isn’t wherever they happen to end up the best outcome? Outcome vs Process. Also, with regard to Asians making more money than Whites, I’ve heard this disputed. They said that this is measuring household income between Whites and Asians (and Asian families tend to stay together better), but if you look at individual incomes, Whites make more

[@obiwontrice]

Yes but the disparity statistically should random rather heavy disparity towards blacks thousands of times a day in all situations excluding lethal which is fairly uncommon. What bothers me the most is the disparity on situations that didn't end in an arrest! For example pulling a gun out on the wrong guy/kid that is the kind of trauma we all should want to eliminate!

[@mgoodkin]

@@obiwontrice I would gather that these disparities toward black people occur mostly in neighborhoods with gangbangers and crime. It would be good to study any such disparities across the board in different types of neighborhoods and geographical locations.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

No amount of people are arguing for absolute parity. We see widespread discrimination, that's the issue.

[@obiwontrice]

@@mgoodkin In America your rights shouldn't be affected by other peoples actions! That's what you are arguing for racially approved bias by police.

[@Juliantiti]

Coleman: please turn up your volume. I can barely hear you.

[@nochepatada]

If people are trying to play a sport to get out of a poor situation, there are way more professional soccer players in the USA than basketball or football players

[@robertmitchell8868]

Coleman, you are brilliant and very cool.

[@PaulRamen]

Disparities are the norm no matter how you slice a population.

[@bobbyboywonder12]

The audio definitely left something to be desired.

[@jamesprice532]

I also looked at prison information as of June 4th of 2022 there is over 60 thousand black Americans in prison but there are over 90 thousand white Americans in the same prisons

[@rg1q84]

Yes, but Blacks are only roughly 15 percent of the population, while whites are 60 percent. Blacks are overly represented as prisoners. In your example, if 90k represents 60%, then Blacks as 15%, should be around 22k. Also we have millions of people in prison in the US, so what does 90k and 60k refer to?

[@jamesprice532]

@@rg1q84 you know I heard for most of my black Americans were 13 percent of the population of the united states so I checked 🤔 it was true until 2014 then black Americans were close to 15 percent of the united states population 🤔 but in the last 3 or 4 years the numbers dropped ⁉️ 1st it dropped to 12.4 then 2 months later dropped again to 12.2 now I thought well we hear about Police shootings🤔 so I looked ⁉️ from 2016 to 2022 each year over 200 black Americans are were shot by police 🤔 but in the same years over 300 white Americans were shot⁉️ so what causes the numbers to drop⁉️ I think it may be the murder rate is gotten higher in places where it was already high⁉️💯 and it could be black on black crime

[@jamesprice532]

Now we act like people are just arrested because of their race 🤔 if that's true then we would see everyone of that race with a history of jail or prison but we don't

[@sheikha6]

The question is why black and brown men get arrested more and large sentences.

[@martenscs]

1. "get arrested more"...cultural acceptance of violence as a means to an end. Read Thomas Sowell 'Black rednecks and White liberals'...the U.S. justice systems is design to target violent crime before any other crimes. When suburban weed dealing teenagers start shooting each other over turf...they will be targeted equally. 2. "Larger sentences" the statistics did not take into account a. What the original crime the arrest was. example: Many people, who do not have funds for a lawyer plea bargain...a person could be arrested for attempted murder but plea bargain for an simple assault or gun possession. The judge understands the underlying facts of the case and will likely sentence the person to more time based on those facts. When comparing a simple assault of a YT guy in West Virginia who got in a fight at a bar who gets 30 days to a drive by shooter in Chicago who gets 2 yrs....both sentenced for simple assault...what outcome would you like to see. These discrepancies will be larger in larger cities because of the huge volume of cases that a city has in court...meaning a DA is more likely to downgrade a charge to get the win and move onto the next case. This leaves it up to the judge to attempt to find justice for the victims. b. The criminal history of the accused. A judge who looks at the the above sentence for a previous crime and has the person in front of him again will likely sentence even more for the new crime. In other words: I got sentence to 2 yrs for simple assault when I shot five people in a drive by...I do my time and do it again. This time not hitting anybody. The judge gives me 5 years because he knows the facts of both crimes. Now compare again and it looks even more "racist". Plea bargaining is scourge on the criminal justice system. A prosecutor should take care in charging the correct crime and once charged be able to prove it court. The games they play do not serve justice and force the innocent to accept guilt out of fear and the guilty walk on lesser charges.

[@Sal3600]

It's basic biology regarding the police arresting more men than women.

[@stephenalexander6721]

Smart thoughts.

[@jasonabercrombie7869]

It makes perfect sense that culture explains why there are less black soccer players. But basketball used to be a “white” sport too. The average height amongst black Americans is a couple of inches taller than white Americans. Which means at the tail end of the distribution, there are more black athletes at extreme heights. As in 6 ft 4 in - 7 ft. Height is an obvious advantage in basketball. That’s a major reason it became a black sport over time. Just like individuals tend to stick with activities they have a talent for, “culture” adopted an activity that the population had a disproportionate number of people with a certain favorable trait for that activity.

[@geeboom]

It is illogical to assume that peoples who for thousands of generations evolved in different climates under varying circumstances should be identical in all respects. Of course there will be differences in things like physical strength, aspirations, temperament, sex drive, testosterone levels and intelligence. On the average these differences will not be too observable. It is in the extremes that they become most manifest. Patterns will emerge when we study records of those who excel in all fields of human endeavors. This is an uncomfortable truth which sooner or later will have to be acknowledged in order for free societies to not cannibalize themselves. We in the West live in societies where no one is structurally held back and everyone can develop according to their full potential. DNA is much more a determining factor than history. Powerfully so. The way technology is progressing it is possible in a near future a kind of Robo Cop will be developed. Will statistics of interactions between this police force and the public show significant differences with those of flesh and blood police? I wonder.

[@rashadabdulazeem5387]

I'm with you up until intelligence, because what is your measurement for intelligence?, DNA has nothing at all to with intelligence, that is false science as needs to be discarded as wishful thinking or just lazy way of explaining some of challenges in our society. Our intelligence regardless of where we come from or our ethnicity or even the environment we live in is not predetermined/ Perhaps you want to enlighten me on the intelligence gene?, it's false religion. There is no great white hope or great black hope. Culture and environment play a big part in achievement.All groups have made progress throughout history, Integration certainly had some very positive aspects but it's one thing to integrate socially and another to attempt to be a carbon copy of another people who were morally deficient. There is no intelligent growth without moral growth. Knowledge of self and the ability to think, filter and act outside the prevailing culture enables one to achieve success in America

[@garyrolen8764]

What are you even talking about? I thought the argument was settled in 2018 with the "one race" movement. ...I jest...

[@IndependentFckr]

Loud noises!

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

Parity is a weak strawman. No one is arguing that.

[@bobbyboywonder12]

Parity? Or parody?

[@stellercorpse]

NBA needs more white players to reflect the population

[@bobbyboywonder12]

😂😂. True dat. But let’s be honest…we wouldn’t be watching as much haha. Whatever the people look like….I want the best of the best of the best.

[@joedavis4150]

... cops see men, especially black men, as competitors.

[@Sal3600]

Yea nah. Look at the data. Men are more aggressive. When will you look at the actual data?

[@mattbabb.]

Competitors for what?

[@cm2624]

What a bizarre assertion

[@thehylander266]

More claims not backed by data..

[@samhand8270]

Wtf is this even supposed to mean?