LeBron's journey 'is the greatest basketball career beginning to end' | NBA | THE HERD

LeBron James made history as he passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to become the NBA's all-time scoring leader with his 38 points in the Los Angeles Lakers 133-130 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Colin Cowherd explains why this shows that LeBron's career 'is the greatest basketball career beginning to end.' He then gets into whether LeBron may move on from L.A. after saying that he is not done yet.
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LeBron's journey 'is the greatest basketball career beginning to end' | NBA | THE HERD
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[@busharagbar4420]

Lebron is not the goat,I saw mj play

[@therandomuploader6566]

..he broke the scoring record then lost..why talk about a losing team?i dont get it ...impact mj,championship mj what is this collin talking about?sheesh .

[@vintagemonte]

“my guess is you’re angry about a lot” is my new phrase

[@enescustovic1883]

Love the sass!

[@mayowamayor2009]

😅

[@rawthentictruth]

He lived up to the hype more than any athletes I could think of in the history of basketball

[@kobemarley5131]

😂😂😂😂🤡

[@ebogar42]

Well, if you hype a bunch of players ever year eventually one will turn out good. 😂😂

[@joeperry2065]

@@ebogar42 yeah but how many guys we're on the cover of sports illustrated at 17 ? Maybe a few but not many.

[@carterbilbro4615]

@@ebogar42 he’s the chosen one better face it now

[@ebogar42]

@@joeperry2065 There have been who were supposed to be the next best thing that have came and gone that nobody remembers. They probably were on covers at one time and in the news often, but nobody cares now. Most never live up to the hype and that's because it's hard to predict the next best player because many work harder than the next guy to achieve greatness. I'm sure Lebron worked hard at staying on top, but I don't think he ever really did anything extra but maybe shooting 3s. Never really worked on Free throws and didn't have many go to moves, but what he has is effective.

[@lionelgrisbane-ud87]

Say what you will about Colin, no one soliloquizes like him. Level above everyone else.

[@thht3588]

Because he doesn’t share the floor with anyone to argue with unlike every other show. He’s very smart in that way. He says things that sound pretty good but when you think about usually have TONS of holes in but there’s no one to point those holes out to you so you don’t think about it

[@jasonjanisewski78]

Bill Simmons does it better

[@80for80]

@@jasonjanisewski78 not even close 🚮🚮🚮🚮

[@thht3588]

@Big Body Ram Truck he doesn’t bring guys on the show to argue with him often. He brings them on the show simply to interview them.

[@aaronclay4665]

Ask any TV host iv heard them they say what Colin does is the hardest thing to do for the hours he is on tv.......solo. Having to talk for 3hrs or more solo is tough.

[@lanafelix8649]

Charles Barkley was right about Lebron James what he has achieved since he arrived in the NBA incredible.

[@IWill_iTV]

Everybody said that lol

[@Common_Sentences]

@@IWill_iTV And Charles Barkley said days ago Lebron is the 7th greatest basketball ever...

[@dougsmith1738]

Definitely a top 15 player of all time.

[@Common_Sentences]

@@dougsmith1738 Right behind Kwame Brown for sure!

[@Mason-dq7cf]

3 chips in 24 years

[@alvaro4867]

Lebron should have retired with 6-7 MVPs. They just stopped giving them to him because it felt like he was winning it every year and now only 4 doesnt nearly show how far and above he has been the best player in the league for like 15 years

[@jasonjanisewski78]

That's actually not true. What really happened was that he began load managing through seasons and coasting through games to conserve energy for the playoffs so he lost out on MVPs to players who played harder and more during the regular season

[@alvaro4867]

@@jasonjanisewski78 no lol he should have definetely won 2011 and very much 2015.

[@jasonjanisewski78]

@@alvaro4867 Lebron was never going to win in 2011. Not only was that year 1 post decision but they kind of disappointed. People expected an unstoppable, super team juggernaut and instead they did not even finish as a 1 seed in their own conference. In 2014-2015, Curry's team blitzed the entire league and won 67 games, 14 more than Lebron's Cavs team. Curry also played 11 more games than Lebron did that year, a pretty massive difference. If you are clearly the best player on a 67 win team and finish +14 wins and + 11 games played compared to them, you are going to finish ahead of them essentially every single time

[@suntansuperman26]

@@alvaro4867 Rose won 2011 for the same reason LeBron won in ‘09 and ‘10. Why you wanna cheat Rose?

[@Twomps]

I could see thst if playoffs were included

[@vzwson4995]

One of the single best takes of LBJ I’ve ever heard. Applause to you Colin.

[@GISW85]

lebron has no leadership

[@vzwson4995]

@@GISW85 4 chips sais your wrong

[@GISW85]

@@vzwson4995 here are ur 4 chips: 1. Lebron does not provide frequent feedback to teammates to either help or motivate them. 2. Lebron has been known to shy away from crunch time moments or not produce big plays when his team needs him most. 3. Lebron is frequently playful and not known for having that serious mental edge (Like Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant) 4. He tends to bite his nails, revealing his anxiety and nervousness. (of course simply biting your nails does not mean you're not a leader, but imagine during deadlines and crisis moments your employees observing your nervousness through your body language, what message does it send to them?) He is the best of this era. But no not the goat sry

[@vincentjack735]

Not only is he a great athlete. He's a great human being. The King

[@thenorthman515]

Yeah ask the chinese slaves who works at the nike factories.

[@widowsson8192]

Hes a crapper person. Complains about the US but blows the communist chinesse party

[@WelderWick]

I agree on Great human being but a great athlete?... no, good athlete sure but not great.

[@chillywilly01]

He's a great man, and Dad

[@Smurf-jd5tr]

@@WelderWick He is one of the best Athletes is history it’s almost like they made him a lab or something

[@nats122]

LeBron changed the game in the sense that now good players are expected to play well even after 34, 36

[@ianazura7915]

He did not changed any game..

[@CriusXI]

Colin and Nick recently talked on The Volume podcast and it was surprising to hear him admit how MJ and the media at ESPN try so hard to remind people of MJs greatness whenever LeBron accomplishes something great. After 2016 finals, MJ wanted to release a documentary. As LeBron was about to pass Kareem, ESPN had planned to cover MJ for several days right when LeBron was about to break the record

[@davidortiz2026]

Yea, they're so biased just like Nick and Colin, in which they are part of the media, are not. Occurs you not bias, right?

[@josephsanchez5987]

Sorry buddy it's not a competition Jordan has been the best PLAYER lebron is the scoring title champ Jordan is just the best

[@averageguy1291]

@Joseph Sanchez very convincing. Foh you clown

[@Eilam-vr8vz]

@@josephsanchez5987 jordan hasnt been the best since 2016

[@gmr5139]

@@Eilam-vr8vz idiot! MJ last played 2002 and still in the conversation and no doubt the real GOAT. When Lebum retires he will never be remembered by new millennium, but MJ will because of his career and persona he had!

[@17NateJohnson]

I do think that Lebron has handled fame as well as anyone. Also, the way has helped friends be successful is also amazing. That's the part of the story I'd be interested in. How did he navigate all of it?

[@coreylilbro42]

I think it has a lot to do with who he’s surrounded by. His mom, wife and kids keep him in line. And his friends.

[@aaronclay4665]

His mom was on drugs for a long time... that's why he had to live with other ppl line his coach in high school......no LeBron got taught by men in his life that wanted something better for him and told him to surround himself with good ppl

[@PearlJamGuy10]

He takes his orders from China

[@siphillis]

Just for context, James is averaging 30 PPG right now. When Kareem finally stopped at 38,387 points, he was averaging a THIRD of that average.

[@rokutime2627]

At the same age, Kareem averaged 22 points and won Finals MVP. LeBron at the same age as Kareem's last year would average 10-12 points

[@keenannorris3309]

@@rokutime2627 Both of you make great points.

[@MrJonnyl123]

Kareem won finals MVP at Lebrons age whilst lebrons missing the playoffs yet again

[@Jcheesyaf]

They also played defense back then

[@JaySwavo]

@@MrJonnyl123 Kareem also had a Magic Johnson on his team while LeBron has Anthony Day to Day Davis

[@SopranosFan57]

Honestly what Lebron has done is incredible. So much pressure and scrutiny and he’s never folded or gotten in major trouble.

[@MrJonnyl123]

Never folded? The 2011 finals lmao

[@dahc0023]

@@MrJonnyl123 so I guess Kobe folded when he got swept by the same team?

[@MrJonnyl123]

@@dahc0023 he didn’t choke like lebron did in the 4th quarters and he wasn’t on a super team like lebron was

[@dahc0023]

@@MrJonnyl123 he literally won the chip the year before… did he not get swept? I love bean but weirdos like you bring up 2011 like mavs was garbage and lebron just choked

[@AegonnTargaryenn]

@@MrJonnyl123 What about 2004 finals for Kobe?

[@Wopkage]

The funniest part about how people hate the decision so much, is that he raised over 2 million dollars for the boys and girls club during it. So even the thing people hate him for the most was something they can’t even really hate on😂😭. Dude is truly one of the greatest Americans ever.

[@carterbilbro4615]

It’s incredible

[@latinaforever4892]

Amen 🙏💕🙏 LJ

[@keithcooper04]

They hate because they are not happy with their own lives.

[@waynegreen7970]

What he is saying about the NBA wanting to draft Lebron while he was a sophomore is true. There was a buzz in Ohio about him. Up until that point the best players from Ohio were Clark Kellogg, Kelvin Ransey, and Jim Jackson.

[@j-short5431]

Because people’s self esteem are tied to Michael Jordan’s tennis shoes. The only time they were paid attention to was when they had the Jordans in high school. They haven’t accomplished anything as an adult that merits attention, so they live in a permanent state of nostalgia where having those Jordan’s validated them.

[@criticalthought4910]

And the underwear they wear that says “Jordan” on the waistband

[@THEYCANTSTOPME]

@@criticalthought4910 yet the media pumps up the hearts of all the Bronsexuals lol. You guys rely on this to feel like you know something lol.

[@carterbilbro4615]

Great way of putting it

[@wayne47able]

It’s culture to say Jordan is the goat. But time have changed and nobody wants to be wrong

[@j-short5431]

@Truth is Harsh You typed all that on the false premise that only the NBA finals count, and most of it wasn’t fact based. And you must have taken what I said personally. The 90s are over.

[@gregorytyse597]

i'm a 63yr old miami native and i say that this young man lebron is an absolutely wonderful human being and those you that don't like him for whatever reason, "I FEEL YOUR PAIN".

[@mane1551]

He is a great player but The Eye Test says MJ all day

[@ld4974]

I grew up watching Jordan, so he's my guy, but Lebron has the numbers. Numbers don't lie.

[@mattmmixes]

Jordan has the PPG record while Lebron has the total points record, just depends on which you find more impressive

[@ld4974]

@@mattmmixes Wilt and Jordan are tied PPG.

[@mattmmixes]

@@ld4974 Jordan has a small advantage, Jordan 30.12 and Wilt 30.07, narrow but still an advantage

[@timw8646]

so robert horry is greater than michael jordan because horry has 7 championships? yes numbers do lie. also, lebron has a huge advantage with 3's

[@CriusXI]

@@mattmmixes Maybe, I’m crazy, but I find that LeBron leading in more statistical categories than Jordan to be more impressive than Jordans 30 ppg career scoring average. Compare rebounds, assists, blocks, fg%, 3p%, true shooting percentage, effective shooting percentage. I find LeBron to be the better basketball player. Especially the fact that many former players who competed against LeBron say that he doesn’t even really try in the regular season.

[@do_no_try]

Specifically searched for Colin's opinion on this achievement, and he did not disappoint. Spot on.

[@kingjmansa7027]

Best I've heard Colin in a while.

[@WilliamDuh]

2:30 is hilarious "Get a therapist"

[@rokutime2627]

Definitely. Hate the Chinese sweatshops that makes Lebron's shoes? Get a therapist.

[@keenannorris3309]

@@rokutime2627 They make your shoes and everyone else's as well.

[@RushedPhenom]

Colin telling Jordan people to get a therapist lmao

[@carterbilbro4615]

Jordan fans/republicans

[@marcuscicero7169]

MJ era GOAT LBJ era GOAT.....The end

[@shivampatel5802]

And CAP over all goat

[@Crowned_Eagle584]

You left out that LeBron led 3 different teams to championships. Also came back from 3-1 against the Warriors.

[@trevonelove305]

Great take Collin🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯✔️

[@Fresh0710]

“‘But Colin what about the decision?’ Still angry about that? Get a therapist”

[@devon9643]

FACTS!!!!

[@sheischic77]

It was his delivery of that line..... perfection.

[@goatjames6244]

Good take Colin

[@rchuckins]

"The Decision still got you worked up? Get a therapist." hahahaha...great line

[@MrJonnyl123]

Nobody would take having lebrons career over Jordan’s lmao

[@edwardgilmore3239]

REALLY? Jordan's personal life was a mess! Gambling, cheating, drinking, and

[@edwardgilmore3239]

Lebron total career and his private life much better than Jordan's..

[@MrJonnyl123]

@@edwardgilmore3239 we’re talking about on the court. Nobody would take lebrons on court career over Jordans

[@stephensalazar6947]

This was lebron level commentary! Bravo Colin!

[@ptyten9718]

The greatest to ever do it 👑

[@Vic-Vega]

Nah.

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

Micheal Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only eight NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Micheal Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO In the year before Micheal Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Micheal Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Micheal Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!

[@treecosmos386]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Thank you sir💯 There's no rebuttal for that

[@juniorcarmona323]

@@Vic-Vega see those stats Jordan kept getting bounced only went to 6 finals Pathetic Magic went to more finals

[@tajgibson8776]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Lebron played 7 years without Wade/Both/Allen/Kyrie/AD

[@VonVBG]

It’s funny bc I’m literally watching this after the Lakers trade

[@TheBiggestFleeet]

Me too lol

[@brandennelson3859]

THE G.O.A.T!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@toxicjutz1168]

Sorry but mj still the goat

[@jsj31313jj]

Amazing take! Surreal! Well done Colin!

[@ongolongo]

the fact that everyone was on the phone in that moment shows the abasement of all these people

[@burrybondz225]

They could show it to their grandkids from their point of view. Second, it isn't good to idolize celebrities.

[@soulfiftyseven]

Bill Russell had the greatest stretch ever

[@charleswalker8284]

Loved this take!

[@chethomas2441]

Bron is my 🐐

[@tajgibson8776]

Lebron fans are still salty about Jason Terry and that 2011 NBA finals beat down he gave Lebum James. LMAO

[@chancepercival1689]

How Colin gonna go through great directors and not mention Christopher Nolan 😢

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

I always get the sense Cowherd correctly believes LeBron James is the goat, he's just too chicken to say it

[@tajgibson8776]

I expect that from you Mike Pence because you also think Trump is the GOAT don't you?

[@MrJonnyl123]

He knows he will get lambasted for it and rightly so

[@havok6280]

It has nothing to do with being chicken. LBJ is 4th on my list behind MJ, Kareem, and Magic. In a team sport, team success matters.

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

@Truth is Harsh Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only eight NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!

[@rabz5642]

Arguably the greatest and most objective take on Lebron's career ever...... when his time is done, only then will we realise what we had/what we witnessed!!!

[@rapbrown310]

Still not the best player all time

[@latinaforever4892]

Jealousy is real bad for your soul ☝️

[@pmontyjaaaymes488]

That's how i felt about Kobe. Like damn! I didnt appreciate him while he was playing. In his later yrs i liked Kobe and then the accident. Never make that mistake again bc i love the game of basketball. I enjoy watching all of these superstars do their thing.

[@officerricky3230]

All the MJ fans losing their mind in the comment section Lmaoooo

[@anniehopkins8470]

We know what it is... LeBron's the GOAT... unless there is 10 seconds left on the clock and he needs to drive the lane for the win... which he won't... because the NBAs new GOAT can't shoot free throws

[@tajgibson8776]

Lebron fans are still salty about Jason Terry and that 2011 NBA finals beat down he gave Lebum James. LMAO

[@tajgibson8776]

@@anniehopkins8470 Lebron fans are still salty about Jason Terry and that 2011 NBA finals beat down he gave Lebum James. LMAO

[@Nino-bu1cx]

Hear, me out Magic Johnson minus the ending gotta be up there he won in high school, college, He won early in LA. But, LeBron is definitely up there too

[@indigo7454]

Facts.. him and Kareem

[@vuksgitau]

Seems like the State of Ohio produces real quality people.

[@Pucklum5]

I love how Colin just casually eviscerated Lebron haters who bring up the decision and the China tweet 😅

[@burrybondz225]

How? That comment was horrible. Just cause you perfected the art of throwing a ball through a hoop doesn't give you the right to hypocritcaly silence those who speak against oppresion.

[@Pucklum5]

@@burrybondz225 he clarified that his criticism with Daryl Morey was about the timing of his tweet when USMBT was in China. That’s a dangerous thing to say when you got NBA players in China. Could have lead to some Britney Grineresque situation. People just saw an opportunity to finally cancel Lebron and the haters ran with it. Why do you think nothing actually happened to him and it’s only people in these KZbin comments that complain about it?

[@outlawjonezofficialmusic3618]

@@burrybondz225I ain’t see nobody worried about China was u with Kobe Jordan Kyrie every college team? U mad at them too?

[@yanielmendez7920]

Very well said by Colin. Couldn’t had said it better myself.

[@widowsson8192]

Lets see, choked in the 2009 semi finals against the Celtics. Choked in thr 2010 finals against the Mavs, quit in the 2014 finala, missed the playoffs in 2019, bounces first round 2021, and missed the playoffs 2022. All during his prime. The best career ever? Ya right! Literally the lamest thing Cowherd has ever said.

[@lloydp3061]

If there was a guy standing on the ledge of a 800 foot building, threatening to jump off, MJ would push him off to get to the basket. On the other hand, Lebron would call time out and try to talk him out of it. If I want to win my last game, I'm calling MJ.

[@prlysis]

It took Bron -118 more games to reach MJ's scoring total -29 more to reach MJ's playoff scoring total -80 more to reach MJ's blocks total -197 less to reach MJ's turnovers total -Bron has about 400 fewer steals despite almost 300 more games played -Bron has been the all-time turnover leader for two years now Excellent career, excellent player. But MJ is still the "GOAT."

[@greicorolle344]

With way less fga than Jordan

[@yes_on_air]

Glad to see some of these additional stats others ignore or won't know about. ;)

[@prlysis]

@@greicorolle344 That's what happens when you take far more 3-pointers (which MJ would obviously do playing in this era). MJ is #1 all-time in points per game (both in the regular season and the playoffs) on 50% shooting despite playing in an era with much tougher and more physical defense. Also, when MJ played, travels and carries were more strictly enforced, and the officiating did not favor the offense heavily like it does today.

[@j-short5431]

@@prlysis Threes are harder to make than twos. And LeBron still has a higher fg%. Cope

[@31dchristd]

Like always, well said 💯💯💯

[@toddfreeman8132]

Kareem had best out of everyone

[@preparetobedazled]

Everybody staring at their phone and not actually watching and enjoying the moment was disgusting

[@Blacklist324]

0:53 With what Kareem did in high-school, College & NBA, he's had the best career in basketball. They took him out of the best player conversation, they took him out of the best scorer conversation. You can't take best career.

[@sholovesholove4620]

How so? I love Kareem. But LeBron has had success in EVERY category, success in multiple cities, been a TRUE leader on any team he's played on, his bad year was kawhi Leonard's (The guy people kept trying to sell as the greatest 2way player since Jordan) career high, he's top 5 in opposite categories (meaning he's the best at passing and scoring), and has passed the greatest scores ever while scoring was his second greatest gift. He's waaaay better at passing them scoring, but has passed all your favorite scorers. Not to mention, the only good coach that you can say he's played under is Eric spoelstra. Kareem had john wooden then Pat Riley! That's awesome! Jordan had Dean Smith, Doug Collins (a bit of a stretch), and Phil Jackson! LeBron has seen coaches come and go and he's had success whether they were good or bad. Kareem did that as well. Also, Kareem had years where guys were carrying him. That's not a bad thing. But LeBron has never been carried on ANY championship team. In his prime or out of his prime. His efficiency has been consistently great for 20 years. No disrespect

[@havok6280]

@@sholovesholove4620 easy. Kareem has more titles and more MVPs. He had more individual success and more team succes.

[@aaaA-wc3lc]

dont forget this guy said lebron cant dunk or block in 2016

[@ssj4cap]

He wasn’t the best on the floor at 20. That was 2005 wasn’t it. Kobe was the guy in the league. It took several more years until Lebron was the best in the league. Let’s not remove Kobe from LeBron’s version of the NBA.

[@oniayand]

GOAT! Without question.

[@ryans1114]

Without question? Give me a break, the whole goat debate is pointless anyways

[@rogienelson6003]

Goat James

[@CriusXI]

@@ryans1114 Not without question, but I definitely agree that LeBron is the goat. Don’t expect anyone to believe me, but when I was a casual in basketball I used to agree that MJ was the goat since everyone else was saying it. You look more into their careers, you just find that MJ is not the GOAT when you put their stats, accomplishments and era in context

[@tajgibson8776]

He's definitely not the GOAT letting his kids wear the GOAT shoes! LOL

[@oniayand]

@@tajgibson8776 Kids forge their own paths. I am okay with the shoes his sons wore. I love that he is not mandating them to wear his shoes. LOL

[@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88]

Funny how he mentions Lebron having the "greatest basketball career beginning to end" and completely disregard the man Lebron took 20yrs to reach. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has the greatest career in basketball history. In high school Kareem led Power Memorial High to 3 NYC championships and a 79-2 record (with a 71 win streak). Since players couldn't be drafted out of high school or as underclassmen into the NBA, KAJ spent 4 years in college. Freshmen were ineligible to start, for UCLA, so he was on the freshman team. The following 3-years he led UCLA to a 88-2 record, won the NCAA Championship 3x, was National Player of the year 3x, and NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player 3x. In the NBA KAJ was MVP 6x and NBA Champion 6x. Imagine if KAJ started playing out of high school like Lebron. With how skilled he was right out of the gate, he very easily would've been averaging 30+ in the mid-late 60's. The scoring title could easily have been at 48-50,000 points. Think about that.

[@Brando90198]

Flip side to that argument is, imagine if the ABA was started just before LBJ came in to the league. And all the talent went there. Til his 8-9 year in. How many more points would lebron have? You see the captain benefited of playing in a very water down league when all the talent went to the ABA. And after the merger he never averaged more than 27ppg after that.

[@JustHere751]

Ohh Colin was reading down.. 😂😂😂 luv to see it

[@bmla88]

But kareem had a better career, more titles, more mvps, held that record for almost 40 years, was dominant in college and high school

[@goatjames328]

LEGOAT 👑 🐐! DEBATE IS FINALLY OVER! 👋

[@savalaspope6697]

The Herd takes be the best takes EVER

[@robertlopez6728]

Tim Duncan ended perfectly

[@ryans1114]

What is with people obsessing over who is the goat or not. Litterally cannot click a video like this without seeing the same couple comments over and over. Most subjective thing ever, you can’t clearly say lebron or mj is better when they played in different eras. Also mj was in a time when you didn’t switch teams nearly as often.If lebron had his whole career in Cleveland it would be talked about much different likely. Or that defense is much softer now a days. Not saying mj is just saying there’s so many factors and a lot of players like Tim Duncan, etc have more championships and played a style that benefited their team in a way that you could argue they were “goats” as well.

[@jasonjanisewski78]

Kareem was arguably the Greatest High School Player Ever, the Greatest College Player Ever, and the Greatest Pro Player Ever. He won 3 Championships in HS, 3 in College (every year he was eligible), then 6 in the NBA.

[@the1337contrarian]

Back when it was 80% white guys though? Eras are a thing to consider, don't care if you're Wilt, Bill or even Kareem.

[@gtg309v]

@@the1337contrarian Wilt in 1967 playoffs faced Bill Russell (6'10" black HOFer, known for all-time great defense) in one series, then in the Finals faced Nate Thurmond (6'11" black HOFer, who Kareem said was the toughest defender he faced in his career), to win the championship. Wilt in 1972 playoffs faced Kareem Abdul Jabbar (7'2" black HOFer, who was back-to-back MVP at that time and defending champion) in one series, then in the Finals faced Willis Reed (6'10" black HOFer, who was MVP just 2 years prior and champion 1 year prior), to win the championship. Jordan got swept twice in the playoffs against the Boston Celtics, a team of starters like Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Danny Ainge (white guys). Jordan's iconic moment, "The Shot", was over defender Craig Ehlo (white guy). Two of Jordan's Finals competition were against the Utah Jazz, a team of starters like John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, and Greg Ostertag (white guys). In today's league, 2 of the top 5 players are Nikola Jokic (white, current back-to-back MVP) and Luka Doncic (white).

[@the1337contrarian]

@gtg309v lol white guys in the 60s playing basketball is alot different than white guys playing basketball in the 80s and 90s.

[@gtg309v]

@@the1337contrarian Russell and Thurmond in 1967 and Kareem and Reed in 1972 were Wilt's center competition. They aren't white lol. As for white guys in the 60s and 70s they matchup just fine with white guys from 80s and 90s. Jerry West, Bob Pettit, Rick Barry, Jerry Lucas, Pistol Pete, John Havlicek, Dave Cowens, etc.

[@Shawnpee3496]

I can agree with that.

[@superkat460]

Where Colin was right! Absolutely a classic analysis! Led 3 cities, players, coaches to title wins. DESERVES for Buss/Rob to create chip roster. With Ballmer and JWest, Clips could get banners and he could get rings or with several other franchises. LBJ wants to play with Curry. He and Giannis would be unstoppable

[@jamespayne4321]

Straight FACTS

[@alexspyropoulos3152]

4-6 in the finals🤣

[@browninthompson]

Great angle

[@carterbilbro4615]

Shouldn’t even be a debate

[@NotebookLives]

What Colin said about The Decision and the China Comments is absolutely CLASSIC and couldn’t be further from the truth 😂. Most of LeBron’s haters hate themselves & their lives and legitimately need psychiatrists and therapists. I couldn’t have said it better.

[@kelvinpowell1855]

Well said ❤

[@kristyler1999]

The GOAT!!!

[@toxicjutz1168]

Mj is the goat

[@cyberbron2077]

I'd say him and Kareem at the top in terms of overall basketball career. And yes MJ fans, don't get mad. MJ still has his right to claim the GOAT title, dude's accolades are incredible but just in terms of on and off the court, Lebron and Kareem are at the top.

[@batmaneatspizza]

Lol give me Mj career every day of the week

[@jerrysmith8899]

For a guy that didn't play 2 years for Dean Smith. But came right out of High School to the NBA. No comparison Lebron is the best.

[@terrance_35]

King LeBron James passed Kareem Abdul 76 775 38,3999 career congratulations 👏 🙌 👍

[@DocJoeyBetito]

LeBron played with ankle injury when he surpassed Kareem Abdul Jabbar that's how great he is. He can play atleast 5 more years at high level. According to a well-known coach, MJ is the GOAT of his Era and LBJ is the GOAT of his Era. . .

[@kcsniper1243]

Colin hit the nail on the head. Lebron only comparision as a teenager is Woods & I would throw in Messi. Messi was in Barcelona Academy at 12 years old some scouts were saying if he was big enough he had the skill to play at the highest level and that was at 12 years old.

[@kingsht9825]

LeBron is the greatest to ever do it

[@jskc1514]

You could put him on prolly 15 teams and win at least 1 in 3 years. If not more teams, or more rings.

[@niceman727]

Imagine if Kareem Abdul Jabbar never played 4 years in college. He would have added significantly to the all time score.

[@herbyoung2767]

Kareem played 20 seasons so you’re assuming he would have played 24 seasons? Lol.

[@rapbrown310]

How do you lose 6 NBA finals and have the greatest career?

[@Officiallyjaystick]

Lebron scored more points on less shots than everyone he passed on the scoring list. Less field goal attempts.....but scored more than Jordan, Kobe, Malone and even Kareem. And shoots a higher percentage. More NBA Player of Weeks and Months Most Playoff points all time....... Has a ton of the youngest to - scoring records and is now getting a bunch of "OLDEST TO...scoring records. Finally...Lebron is the youngest to and fastest to....every 1000....scoring mark in NBA history and 18 seasons of averaging 25 ppg.......next best person has done that 13 times. Lebron not only best scorer of all time - he is the GOAT. He is the BEST SCORER of all ELITE PASSERS THAT HAVE 10000 ASSISTS OR MORE AND He is the BEST PASSER of all ELITE SCORERS THAT HAVE 30000 POINTS OR MORE. Folks are in denial (refusal to admit the truth or reality of something)....LBJ is the GOAT And we were all witnesses!

[@smoothALOE]

Some of what CC said was valid and some of it was not. Either way, it’s a great feat.

[@blessedutv7319]

one of the great analyst and commentator i feel there is no bias in every detail he say. godbless Colin

[@archfootballman40]

Great Great commentary from beginning to present of this icon career

[@widowsson8192]

Wow Collin, critisizing Lebron for complaining about the US while blowing the Chinesse Communist Party warrents an insult from you? I thought you were much better than that.

[@ElAsopaoDigitalConGury]

In a way, Colin said the main reason why people don’t appreciate LeBron like they should: Ring Chasing.

[@saxtonmartin3956]

Believe it or not, Colin... The Lakers actually ended up being in the Western Conference Finals!

[@shivampatel5802]

Exactly . Journey as in leaving team after team to achieve his own personal goals and then leaving teams and teammates behind .

[@coryjack606]

Classic Laker night… They lost 😂

[@sunkist3304]

100% agree

[@billyclyde768]

There will never be another player that lives up to the expectations and pressure that Lebron James has done his entire career, 20 years of dominance, the level of talent in the NBA is astronomicly greater than before 🤨🧐🙄🤔. This is the true definition of a "SUPERSTAR". If... the term y'all like to use, if he were to lead the Lakers to another 🏆 I can only imagine the negative criticism he's still going to get 🙄🧐🤨 I wonder why 🤔

[@leandrisj]

Ironically Tiger and LeBron have the same birthday.

[@kingtrawal]

Tiger does'nt have a losing record in the championship round tho LOL

[@leandrisj]

@@kingtrawalclearly you and good sense have a tenuous relationship.

[@user-zn5ui8rh5g]

Great take

[@evanmorrisreiser]

Seems like Pelinka heard you

[@havok6280]

Kareem had a better career. And he played four years in college.

[@melb758]

simmons is one of todays top 5 players. -c. cowherd

[@TeeWreh]

Jalen Rose says "LeBron is the most complete basketball player ever" but MJ is the goat Colon says "the greatest career end to end" but MJ is the goat SAS says "best all around basketball player ever" but MJ is the goat Scottie said "LeBron is the most talented basketball player ever" but MJ is the goat.. but this came after he said LeBron was the 🐐 in 2011.. but changed his mind after he got that phone call from MJ.. I wonder how many of these guys really think MJ is the goat or just scared of that phone call..🤔🤦🏾‍♂️

[@gerardbonner6464]

You just going to ignore the fact that LeBron is able to put up essentially the same stats and they are not winning? There's a reason why. He doesn't positively affect winning and the reason for that is because he does not play defense at the same level because he can't. It's not a knock, it's just a fact. He needs to be around defenders, shooters, and playmakers. He can still facilitate the offense but he needs more help than he ever has

[@gregorytyse597]

Great take colin......(great take indeed).

[@eliaskhoury768]

Last night was a microcosm of LeBron’s career since his last championship. He’s chasing stats but can no longer carry a team.

[@cd7314]

Was jordan chasing stats in Washington when he was taking the same amount of shots and missing more of them while also not getting as many rebounds or assists?

[@naphcon8983]

I don't know of any player in history that has carried a team of minimum contracts and a Russell Westbrook.

[@eliaskhoury768]

@@naphcon8983They couldn’t even beat the sorry Thunder .

[@eliaskhoury768]

@@cd7314Probably not considering he retired before breaking any totals records. Regardless, LeBron is my GOAT.

[@outlawjonezofficialmusic3618]

When his teammates ever going to step up Jordan didn’t carry the bulls everyone on the Bulls pulled their weight and did their job