My luck if I tried this, I'd put out $240 lay + $110 inside + $35 hard 10 ($385 total), and then the next rolls would be an easy 10 followed by a 7.
@derSchmetterling0811 ай бұрын
Facts.
@clueless924511 ай бұрын
I spent my life defying odds as well, so I would be right next to you.
@MJ-gw2zu11 ай бұрын
Outside 10-4 outs happen a lot too. Better to lay both for less and start with just six and 8
@MrJenten108 ай бұрын
My very first thought exactly..... times 3 times you be brokey
@gigachadmain4 ай бұрын
I tried this, and it worked surprisingly well, with a bankroll of $140 I made up to over $300, continuing though I lost a fair share but at the end brought home $200, not too bad. However I did change it up so I had no horn bet, and made sure that the hard 10 would cover a lot more of the lay bet, with that, you’ll win the majority of the time, and sometimes even be hoping for a seven due to the way you can win on 5,6,8,9, make back what would be lost with the extra bit on the hard 10, and then if you lose it doesn’t matter because in all you’re up by a little. I just wish there was a way to lay bet the 4 or 10 without having to 1/2 the payout, but the casino’s rules will be the casino’s rules. All in all, it’s pretty decent, and you’re mostly covered on all fronts, like some people said though, a soft 10 and 7 could rough your bankroll up, but it can be grinded out to a, albeit probably less than optimal but still, net positive.
@amitt01111 ай бұрын
I would make the following modification on a $10 or $15 table 1. Still start with $240 lay 10 and $110 inside but no hard 10 hedge and no horn hi 2. Hopefully collect 2 hits on the inside numbers which would net $70 3 now remove the lay 10 and regress the place bets to $66 inside and place $2 each on hard 4 and 10, which essentially means that all bets are paid for. On a $10 table can even go $64 across with $1 on each of the hard numbers. 4. Now collect and press per preference as we are in no loss zone. I wonder if @Jeremy can roll this variation.
@presidentialcee711310 ай бұрын
Nice
@presidentialcee711310 ай бұрын
I do exactly that most days 😅
@kirbck11 ай бұрын
Give him a thumbs up !! it helps his side on KZbin.
@NohandleJ11 ай бұрын
I like this strategy. I'm a low roller and play at $15 dollars max. I would probably buy the 4 instead of the horn bet, and then increase my lay. Also after 3 hits, I would turn my inside off and take the lay down and wait for the next roll or point to be hit
@presidentialcee711310 ай бұрын
Wasting money throwing 5 every time And on a 25 table that’s a no bet
@henryschumann4429 ай бұрын
The horn high yo is a terrible add to this strategy. Simply press the inside number that is rolled one unit until it achieves the 35/42 level and you’ll still at $30 per inside hit at min.
@lindafoxwood7811 ай бұрын
That looked pretty good! I was playing at Little River, SC boat ride Casino many years ago when I first starting playing craps. I tracked all the rolls waiting for a 10 to roll with no luck after 50+ rolls! I told the dealer: "How come the 10 will not roll? It has been 52 rolls so far?" He said that was just what happens some times." The very next bet I made was a $400 lay on the 10. It sat there for 6 roll and the Seven hit. The dealer looked mad at me for winning. :)
@aebalc11 ай бұрын
I was sure you were going to end that story with a loss.
@lindafoxwood7811 ай бұрын
@@aebalc That bet was for $400 - I got the $200 win on that 10! After the 36th roll without a 10, I put $20 buy; lost it, at 40th roll; $40 buy and lost. Never saw a 10 for the entire 1 hour I was as that table.
@MogulKhan-pf9tl11 ай бұрын
I think the person who sent this in had a lucky drunk night at the casino
@toxsickdog11 ай бұрын
yeah. every time I lay the 4 or ten, it gets rolled. I hate lay bets.
@michaellinder670510 ай бұрын
Used strategy two days in a row with one modification .Had pass line bet so I could play bonus plays. If 4 or 10 was point went up with 220.Inside. numbers went up 160 or 170 inside. Followed the rest of the strategy. Won 4300 Saturday and 4600 Sunday. Will play again Tuesday see how it works than.
@mmsk17178 ай бұрын
Really hate the $5 horn loss each roll, just to have the chance to press it, to just lose the press to the 7… just take profits when you can
@bobtnailer2 ай бұрын
Exactly! As a rule, I’m not fond of one-roll bets anyway.
@markthepoint11 ай бұрын
I'm personally not a huge fan of lay bets, Risk more to get paid less. Or Hop (Horn) bets, But I get the concept... Nice Job Jememy!
@eddieonthemoney252011 ай бұрын
You missed the point of the late bet. It’s not to win money is to protect your bets against the seven.
@markthepoint11 ай бұрын
@@eddieonthemoney2520 A hedge is a waste.. If you are worried about the 7, Don't bet against it. People who hedge end up losing more because when they do lose, they typically lose both Bets and it's a double loss... Better to stay away from hedge bets all together
@darrellq69546 ай бұрын
Just use the Arnold with the 4 to 1 ratio of DC to Come Bets
@denniswilliams909210 ай бұрын
This is the one for me hands down. Had a $2000 bankroll, walked away with $3944 after a little over an hour. For me it takes discipline and not be greedy. What makes it sweeter is I was lucky on a roll. First number up was 10 so I lost that $240. I rolled for 20 mins power pressing and collecting. It was beautiful. I’m taking this home!
@jelambertson9 ай бұрын
That’s good. As long as you’re doing it for fun and not expecting 9:31 to buy a new automobile 🚗.
@denniswilliams90929 ай бұрын
@@jelambertson It’s always for fun. I tuck away a bit of 💰 each month
@bobtnailer2 ай бұрын
The difference between winning and losing in this short video was the horn. The place bets were winning consistently, and the horn only hit once or twice….and only on the 11. I like to work the place bets, and I honestly liked the 10 lay with the hard 10 hedge. I hadn’t considered playing the numbers that way, and I kinda liked it.
@muhammadcurtis675911 ай бұрын
I like the strategy. I personally would never employ this strategy because I don't like lay bets, but it has the ability to work well because the lay hedges the 4 inside numbers. Your losses would probably be minimal which is great, but i've seen too many instances where lay bets on the 10 go awry. Great work though Jeremy.
@denniswilliams909210 ай бұрын
I’m with you, I don’t like lay bets. But I tried it and it worked out. It has definite advantages when you have a good shooter.
@MrVin72010 ай бұрын
Thank you for reinforcing my lesson that dice gambling never pays off in the long run.
@ColorUp10 ай бұрын
If it did, casinos would not exist
@IEA_45510 ай бұрын
No gambling of any kind pays off in the long run you dolt
@donvito26829 ай бұрын
Theres one thing I want to add to my last comment..the only way to win consistently is not to play..although Ive won more money than I lost. The reason being, I haven't been on a crap table for the past 10 years. I quit when I was ahead. Gambling for me is not fun..way too nerve racking for me. Good video by the way.
@jelambertson9 ай бұрын
I like the strategy I learned 35 years ago from a book I’ve long since misplaced. Just play the pass line and the come and use your head. Stay away from all the other bets except for an occasional place bet on the inside numbers. If you lose half your stake leave. If you double your stake leave. Have a drink or a bite. Its worked well for me. I have fun, and we all know losing is not fun. So I don’t win a ton but you would be surprised at how often I win a couple of hundred or break even.
@MJ-gw2zu11 ай бұрын
Generally, just keep the lays up with the wins, and if it's a quarter table, center action has to be 5 minimum per spot, in which horn highs have to be 25.
@tedberry196911 ай бұрын
$25 table - min bet for a horn high is $25 ($5 for each horn @ $5 for the high #)
@YoungSheft9 ай бұрын
its nice you got the dice rolled numbers on display but what would be more convenient is to show the Cash amount of this player as the game progress !
@denniswilliams909210 ай бұрын
Gonna give this a try tonight.
@christopheralvarez607611 ай бұрын
What about hopping the 6,4 for $5 on every roll too or maybe every other roll. Doesn't seem like too much of a loss compared to what you're making and it gives you some added protection
@EricG10811 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. One option to scale the Horn bet down for a $10 table would be to bet $1 each on the C&E.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
Ha, of course. The obvious eluded me.
@davidgaray938011 ай бұрын
I play this, lay the 10 and bet the 5,6,8 field. You win $1 for every 20 invested, I like to lay the 5 and and bet the 6,8 field. Hit and press for 8 hits and bring down
@andrewcarr243111 ай бұрын
he almost broke even, therefore the statement "it just wins" is somewhat accurate. Although given the rolls on that session it would be hard to win with any strategy. I think this is more of a standard hedging system than the "secret sauce" as the folks at Casino Quest would say.
@DaleMoore-z9n11 ай бұрын
I do this a lot. Most of the time if I get hit on the easy 4 or 10 I will go up on the DP. Works well, usually.
@pbehler11 ай бұрын
I started watching your video series recently and enjoy them and the production changes you’ve made since your early videos. One favor/feedback to ask. Could you add text to the screen of the $ amounts on each placement. Being new, it’s hard to follow sometimes especially when you have specific amounts between the 4-10, based on the types of bets you place on the numbers.
@censr111 ай бұрын
That horn bet was a major bleed 💯
@bigbrowndad62149 ай бұрын
Is there a strategy where you press the lay bet?
@tpuccia886 ай бұрын
The only thing I would change is to rack the profit the first time you hit the horn high yo, and then press the 6 and 8 if you hit it again.
@the3onions8 ай бұрын
I also prefer laying 10s more than 4s 😉
@flowerpower5557 ай бұрын
I like to buy and set 4/10 for increments of 5s (in a game I'm tryna find a Strat I like with before spending real$ I wanna have a plan lol) but I noticed they both get a 10 return on a 10/10 so after a ten or four hits Pull off or pinch. I call it my pinch m poke 🤣 pick 2 numbers bet max and buy max. Same number. Whatever the winning. Out of pocket after the pinch. Then you get to poke it up rest of the roll. You can buy numbers or whatever you want switch to iron curtain whatever. Your out of pocket one spin. If you ever poke so high, you can pinch again. I always do. The pinch and poke pressure regressure is a sure shot for me. So far I like 10/4 or 5/9 but 6/8 isn't enough for a big poke.great low place to start. Sitting at the table I go half bid. After first loss I place more. A full bet. This way I can slightly hedge my first spin as a free poke.
@jodyserecky99409 ай бұрын
I've played this strategy a lot, sometimes with the 4, sometimes with the 10. Mostly lose money with it, because the easy 4 and 10 always seem to hit when I do
@slloyd989211 ай бұрын
Nope. Been knocked off 10 and 4 too many times in this lifetime to even bother with trying to hedge. Also get knocked off 1 time the rest of the time you trying to catch up for that big loss. And just like in your video, the one combination of dice not covered with the hedge..hit lol. The dreaded 6-4 easy 10.
@gregorygrenadier624911 ай бұрын
Yup
@cartmankickass68911 ай бұрын
Lmao. “In this lifetime” like bro, i felt that. 😅😂
@dannypresson481511 ай бұрын
I remember you rolling three or was it four tens in a row several vids ago. If that happened here you're out early.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
@dannypresson4815 true, it can and will sometimes happen that way
@slloyd989211 ай бұрын
@@cartmankickass689 lol I did the color up meet up at Reno and guess who knocked me of 10 3 times in a row....Jeremy :)
@johngaltline993311 ай бұрын
Feel like you'd have to lay another $60, make it $300 to make up for the hard 10. I'd drop that horn bet as well, maybe play it once in a while when you're feeling it. Think I'd drop the horn and the hard 10. Still don't think I'd play this strat, but cutting the extra expenses seems to make more sense.
@JohnnyCaruso8 ай бұрын
The only thing i would change about his system is i would change the Hard 10 bet to $20 and stay off the horn and yoh bets those are sucker bets that your just giving money away every roll that adds up. With the Hard 10 your one bet stays up until a 10 or 7 is rolled .Also replenish the 10 lay bet instantly every time it gets wiped out losing 110 inside is wiping you out along with all your horn bets/
@philipchan29414 күн бұрын
Thank you
@willmunson932011 ай бұрын
Not a fan of this strategy but really enjoy your videos
@blmeanie11 ай бұрын
hi, love the videos, your spreadsheet that shows up at 23:23, is that available for download?
@grantgordon6611 ай бұрын
Do a lot of casinos let you place a $5 horn high at the $25 level? Mine does not
@jimklemens501811 ай бұрын
In my experience, it would be $5 per horn number.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
Tables vary, some will bump prop bets to $5 once table is at $25. $25 horn high single roll bet is a no go though. If your table requires $25 for horn high, just say no, and this strat is not for you.
@philsizemore70563 ай бұрын
I’m a $25 table guy. I just bet 5,6,8 and play the field. $100 on the don’t pass.
@shahmatsimplex414411 ай бұрын
The Big Town is out on KZbin. Craps movie from 1987. Roll out the simple pass line strategy Matt Dillon uses.
@robertschmidt787911 ай бұрын
Interesting. In general, too rich for my blood and I’m not a big fan of lay bets. But, as with any new strategy, I’ll toss it around on the kitchen table for a while and see.
@indianacreekwalker447410 ай бұрын
why not take the horn bet of 5 dollars each round and just press 5 dollars with the 125 middle? Horn bet makes zero sense unless im missing something with this
@wills970011 ай бұрын
am i crazt? on a 5 yo-high horn, should it not pay $30? you have 1 on 2, 1 on 3, 1 on 12, and 2 on 11. not sure why you keep subtracting the other three when you hit 11?
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
Yes, it pays 30, but you have to replace the 3 losing bets on 2/3/12. So it pays 27 and you are still up. If you don’t repeat the bet, you would get all $30. By default “if it pays it stays” and dealers will replace the losing side of bets.
im new at betting craps, correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a pass/ don't pass bet to be able to place numbers?
@Fondil_Mabols10 ай бұрын
Only if you're the shooter
@CharlesHess11 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the payoff in roll 3; the 7.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
The lay bet on the 10 is a winner with the roll of 7. It pays 1:2. It was a $240 bet so it gets paid $120 (minus a 5% vig of the win amount or $6)
@vince71892 ай бұрын
idk 240 to protect 110 just doesnt make sense. that more then 2 bullets if you just do the 110 inside
@myboy479511 ай бұрын
Really interested in this Strat, would love to have it broken down to $5 table and $10 table just so that i dont mess up my math with the odds. Thanks everyone!
@NohandleJ11 ай бұрын
The last two nights I played a variant of this strat on $10 tables. I place the 6 and 8 instead for $12 each instead of the whole inside. I lay the he 10 for $50. Place hard 10 for $8. I don’t play the horn. After 2-3 hits I turn everything off. Each session I’ve walked away with +20% return on my money. At most I’ve only stayed through 2-3 shooters. Got hit bi a hard 10 once and recovered. I’m liking it so far.
@myboy479511 ай бұрын
@@NohandleJ happy to hear its paying off for you. Thanks for the advice.
@clueless924511 ай бұрын
Confused. I thought the lay bets pay 1:1 not 1:2.
@ackypi11 ай бұрын
A Don't Come bet pays 1:1, after surviving its "come out" and being moved to a box number, and then the 7 happens. A lay bet on the other hand is basically the opposite of a buy bet. You're paid if the 7 shows before the number with the lay bet, and you get paid true odds but in the "don't" way. For example, a buy bet on the 4 or 10 pays 2:1. This means a lay bet on the 4 or 10 pays 1:2. Similarly, a lay bet on the 5 or 9 pays 2:3, and a lay bet on the 6 or 8 pays 5:6 Like the buy bet there is a vig for every lay bet, paid up front. But then like the buy bet it's how you get paid true odds.
@clueless924511 ай бұрын
@@ackypi Thanks for the explanation. I always forget things that make me lay out money that wins less. Of course, dice determine everything!
@IGIVEINPS39 ай бұрын
Soon as said 200+ on lay ten that was big nope from me. We play on vr and 10 hits too often.
@OCNative9 ай бұрын
Easy 10 then 7 out means what?
@thekochdieselskils550611 ай бұрын
Better off building a tower. Doesn’t lose as much in one shooter, much more fun, much less stressful. Not the best strategy, I know, but makes a more enjoyable night for me.
@joeblow565811 ай бұрын
Why not just play the field? Honest question
@eddieonthemoney252011 ай бұрын
No need to play the field. The nine is covered. You don’t want to see a 10. Playing the horn pays much better odds than playing the field.
@IEA_45510 ай бұрын
How are you getting paid 35 on the 5 and 9 25 bet ? you should be betting 24 for 36 I don’t understand that if it pays 3:2
@dennislee89059 ай бұрын
Placing the 5 and 9 pays 7:5. 3:2 is the pay on odds on your pass line.
@IEA_4559 ай бұрын
@@dennislee8905I know but he’s putting down $25 meaning he gats paid 37.50 that’s just stupid and makes no sense he should be putting down $24 and getting paid $36
@ColorUp9 ай бұрын
The 5/9 place bet does not pay 3:2. It only pays 7:5. So if you bet $24 you’d get payed $33.60, they’d round down to $33 You are thinking of the odds bet on 5/9 which gets paid 3:2.
@IEA_4559 ай бұрын
@@ColorUpoh place bets don’t have the same payout. Gotcha
@JoeFerber6 ай бұрын
Not bad, but not good enough!
@ReaverLordTonus11 ай бұрын
It costs more to play one round of this strategy than my entire bankroll for one night. Id love to try this but I'm pretty sure the first time I try it I'll get point>10>7 lol
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
10-7 haha, same roll I’d get 😳
@kai0tika11 ай бұрын
what is crazy is that you lose big if it hits 6 and 4 .. i know its not likely.. but it happens and then that will send you in the hole big time
@CS-ui4qj5 ай бұрын
You might actually be up if you didn’t play that horn bet. 🤣
@Binxalot9 ай бұрын
Not sure if the $5 horn bet is a good idea. It'll only win $30 on 11,12 or 2 and at the $25 table minimum it's just draining your profits. From this video you'd be up another $65 or more if you had just skipped the horn bet.
@Shiprekjim11 ай бұрын
I think you would have ended up positive without the 35 hard 10. I think if I ran this strat the hardway is not worth it.
@jamesnewberry294511 ай бұрын
Nice presentation Can someone explain why you would risk 240 on a lay 10 so to protect 110 inside from the 7 in my view it would be better to lay 1200 on 10 now you have return from the risk and opportunity for the inside
@shirleyrichard-qv9lw11 ай бұрын
Danger
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
If you lay 120, you lose 110 and only win 60, net loss 50. If you lay 240, you lose 110 and win 120, net win of 10. Pick your poison. The 7 is 3x more likely to roll than a hedged lay 10 bet. The more likely scenario is the 10 lay bet wins and the 110 loses.
@jamesnewberry294511 ай бұрын
My lay would be $1200 not 120
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
@@jamesnewberry2945 oh ok, I assumed typo. So you’d risk 1200 to win 600 to protect 110? seems like a lot, I guess just go with $5k table max lay. 😉
@jamesnewberry294511 ай бұрын
not for protection The 110 is just a side bet parley with bad intent the lay is the major bet @@ColorUp
@jimklemens501811 ай бұрын
I am way more comfortable with $100 Don't Pass instead of the Lay.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
Problem with don't pass, it has to get past come out 7/11 (8 losing combos), then it could land on the 6or8 (5 losing combos) vs a lay bet on 10 with just 3 losing combos....obviously the DP is much cheaper route though.
@jimklemens501811 ай бұрын
@ColorUp I have done a $300 Don't Pass with a $300 Lay on the 4 and a $300 Lay on the 10 to protect it. However, the casino is going to take a tiny piece of every bet.
@eddieonthemoney252011 ай бұрын
The trouble with don’t pass line is eight ways to lose on the come out. Now you’re set up to drive dodge the point which is a six or eight with five ways to lose each. Laying the 10 with the hard ten hop only leaves you with two ways to lose. Always make sure the math and the odds are working for you as much as you can. This game is tough enough. Don’t try and make it harder.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
@@jimklemens5018 yep, no right or wrong, just depends how the dice rolls which is better at the moment
@jimklemens501811 ай бұрын
@@eddieonthemoney2520 Don't Pass has the lowest house edge on the table.
@juanesquivel911311 ай бұрын
Horn high pays 15 to 1 =$75 WITH A $5 BET
@jimklemens501811 ай бұрын
With a $5 horn high bet, you only have $1 or $2 on a winning number.
@Coach_G_high_desert_CA11 ай бұрын
I would not use it because you have to risk to much cash for the return...😢
@shirleyrichard-qv9lw11 ай бұрын
One hit 350 lay on 10 or 4 . 170 on 5 6 8 pays 70 take lay down . Play with less than 70 from there , with profit - and no stress
@ForeverFilmsWedding11 ай бұрын
i wanna win!
@derSchmetterling0811 ай бұрын
If the 10 was truly your best friend, you wouldn't lay it..
@creightonhart565411 ай бұрын
Only hedge if you're scared!!!!
@DuggleBogey11 ай бұрын
On the first seven you counted out the $120 payout for the lay, then you stuck it in the bank instead of in your rack.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
Hmm, if so then strat ended up winning.
@YarnellCrew11 ай бұрын
No he didn't the only thing he put in the bank was $30 because he had $150 out. He then took out $6 for the vig, and finally took the $120 and put it back on his place bets to start the next round.
@DuggleBogey11 ай бұрын
@@YarnellCrew You're right, he stuck it in the field and then grabbed it, I thought he grabbed it from the rack when he just grabbed the other $6 for the vig.
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
Thx for clarifying
@DuggleBogey11 ай бұрын
@@ColorUp I was wrong, you did it correctly. Wishful thinking maybe to make this session a winner.
@1wood10111 ай бұрын
That horn bet is killing you
@jamespickering732211 ай бұрын
i agree- instead of feeding the horn- use either 5 or 10 to up your place bets and also place some on the 10 to hedge that lay. "when you see a horn bet the horn"
@shirleyrichard-qv9lw11 ай бұрын
That's until you hit a couple of midnights in a row . I know! You are returning casinos money to them every roll . But from the table , not your pocket .
@eddieonthemoney252011 ай бұрын
I regard the horn bet in this process as just an extra bet. I failed to mention sometimes what I’ll do is have an extra bankroll in my rack for the horn so I can track it.
@eddieonthemoney252011 ай бұрын
When I do that, it always comes out ahead
@jeffm836511 ай бұрын
Not starting with 1K bank roll I'm out.
@nak46518 ай бұрын
Thanks for the interesting video. Having said that, you've had a lot better strategies shown in your videos than this canine.
@ColorUp8 ай бұрын
I show as many as I can, not all will fit your taste. Appreciate you watching and commenting! 😃
@charlesfinster58646 ай бұрын
25 dollar bet on the 5 does not pay you 30
@ColorUp6 ай бұрын
$25 on 5/9 Pays $35
@ferr61411 ай бұрын
this is a great strategy if you start with about a million dollars😢
@avogtster11 ай бұрын
$25 tables are icky
@ColorUp11 ай бұрын
just say no
@mmsk17178 ай бұрын
What is the ideal outcome here? When do you take profits? Lol
@Twinsen76411 ай бұрын
Craps Strategy "That Just Wins" Or does it?
@clueless924511 ай бұрын
Not with Jeremy!
@Twinsen76411 ай бұрын
Risking so much up front isn't really my thing.
@williamtylutki638811 ай бұрын
Looks like wagers anything but ten
@roberttate2009Ай бұрын
You started with 100, but added another 100 and then 500. You lostv49
@bishopofsahs5 ай бұрын
If I tell your viewers that craps is a game with chance, would that ruin your product. Strategies never work. Never.
@ColorUp5 ай бұрын
I tell my viewers this is a random game of chance. Strategies are a form of money management. They absolutely work sometimes when the dice roll in your favor. But no strategy will work every time.