Combat: Why The Sa-19 Tunguska SAM Is So Amazingly Good | DCS WORLD

[@Baleur]

I mean to be fair, you ARE trying to fight a Tunguska, with the exact heavy sluggish transport helicopters it is specifically DESIGNED to be BEST at countering.. It's like trying to fight an Abrams MBT with an insurgent Ford Pickup truck with a machine gun on the flatbed, the very thing that is MOST vulnerable to it.

[@consume_vegetables]

Some people likes to see the odds gets beaten once in a while.

[@seattlekarim964]

That's why I use a Toyota.

[@Bagheera2]

This

[@lolroflroflcakes]

@@seattlekarim964 If you told me that a Toyota came out better from being dropped onto a tank I might actually believe you.

[@h.s3223]

@juggliar took your morning medicin?

[@TheGranicd]

Reminds me of Black adder series ww1 plan. "We will attack enemy at same place we did last 16 times. Beauty of plan is enemy wont think we are stupid enough to attack him for the 17th time there!"

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@stevenacton359]

just call me Baldrick

[@bmw540i]

"I have a cunning plan!" As cunning as a fox who just graduated from the university of cunningness. Lol

[@stevenacton359]

@@bmw540i good job your spell check worked then

[@MattWagner]

Good stuff. These will be even more fun in the Mi-24 :)

[@JCaleb]

Everyone aboard the hype train!

[@grimreapers]

Yeh looking forward to that cannon.

[@evanbrown2594]

Trying to get work done Wags, between you guys and Steel Beasts this isn't happening much lately.

[@skatterpro]

All these modules in the works, all the infrastructure that ED is working on... I'm super impressed with what I've understood is the works of very small teams. @Matt Wagner How many devs are actually employed on ED, and do you have any numbers on module developer team sizes?

[@stevenacton359]

Early release testers ready and waiting here (Cap/Camera) He He

[@badnade4886]

Hover behind tree line, line abreast, 300m apart. In unison, pop up. Group scan, one from left, one from right. Keep unmasked time to less than 5 seconds. Repeat until target acquired. Talk on target. Repeat pop up until all wing mates are tally. Attack in unison. You both need to unmask at the same time. You both need to get back down instantly.

[@jordankungalov5992]

Actually, if Im not mistaken the optical tracking is mostly used in case if the system is being jammed. The front antenna is narrow beam tracking radar. Its used to provide range and target speed to the onboard fire-control computer which sends the signal that controls the missiles. Under normal conditions the missiles are being guided automatically by the computer.

[@grimreapers]

Roger Hawk. See what you think of my Rapier vid when it comes out.

[@jordankungalov5992]

@@grimreapers Absolutely!

[@paristo]

You are mistaken. Optical guidance is primary, the missiles are radio commanded, not radar guided. You do not receive any warnings via RWR about tunguska operation unless its search radar is transmitting (that big rotating dish that is behind the turret) and that is used only when Tunguska is not connected via datalink to SAM network where targets are shared. The big dish between cannons is ranging radar for cannons. It is very narrow beam (1°) that doesn't track anything. It just range the target. Cannons are typically used in automatic mode, where search radar (or datalink) finds target and then target is ranged by the front radar, and cannons automatically tracks target and can even be set to automatically fire at the target. The cannons are possible be aimed with optical mode as well, and if target is close enough that range ain't problem, then fired without ranging radar too. If Tunguska doesn't start emit with search radar, you don't see or hear anything....

[@AKAtheA]

Optical guidance is only a backup (and is kind-of manual), normally it tracks the target with the tracking radar and commands the missile via radio link...even it's successor - the Pantsir S1 works this way, but everything is more modern and even more deadly ;-) Clicked the video expecting the Tunguska having them for breakfast, was not disappointed :D

[@hartzaden]

unless you look at its pathetic rocord in syria where it was pulled out of servace and replaced with the TOR

[@jordankungalov5992]

@@hartzaden info source?

[@TheGranicd]

@@hartzaden You are thinking of Pancir. And record is good. 1 lost while offline left at end of runaway and 1 went guns blazing by suicide drone. First one took dmg to truck cabin mostly no total damage. Tor was added to Russian bases but Pancir wasnt replaced. Syria had 50 now 48. Israel stoped flying over Syria mind you. They attack from lebanon sky or sea to be safe.

[@brankomilicevic6904]

@@jordankungalov5992 just your average "everything Russian sucks" idiot. Asking such abominations for source of their stupidity is pointless. Most likely the new Call of Duty where terrorists manage to take over a Russian air base with RC planes... Thats the level of complexity we're dealing with here...

[@dafrandle]

30:21 Cap: "I couldn't keep his concentration" Tunguska gunner : "drunk american pilot is crashing into trees - don't have to worry about him"

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@seattlekarim964]

"You see, sa-19 have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at it until it reached its limit and shut down." -Cap

[@grimreapers]

lols yes

[@Crash_Bang1065]

​@@grimreapers would you like to do something similar with me? I would be the Tunguska and u are whatever heli u like?

[@Crash_Bang1065]

​@@grimreapers potentially even make a vid?

That was really fun to watch! It's nice to see a video where not everything goes right and then you guys keep trying different strategies to beat it. That was a nice vid! Congrats!

[@paultiffin6610]

Low flying is using the hills as cover. Contour flying is using the hills,trees and buildings with pop ups. NOE is keeping the hull of a helo in the cover with just the blades over the obstacles. (Hard but you have cover)

[@jeffharwood624]

I've been successful against a Tunguska in a A-10C without AGM 88C's using hillsides to cover and conceal the A10 by simply running the Tunguska out of both AAA and Missiles, then going for the kill. I used popup's until the missiles ran out, then circled overhead until the AAA's ran out, then gunned or bombed the 2S6.

[@abdulmismail]

That's what I used to do when playing a game called Comanche over 15 years ago. You position yourself behind a small hill (or gully) and then pop up; fire a few salvos and then drop down again. That way the SA-19 can't get a firing solution on you. Meanwhile, your partner takes him out with rockets from a distance.

[@serageo]

If the missile's electro-optical guided, flares can't save you from being shot down.If you had a fighter, you could be able to avoid the missile, but in this case ,when you see a launch, you're dead.

[@invictusprima4437]

Isn’t this like trying to break up an ice berg with the titanic

[@therightstuffau]

Invictus Prima what if the captain was just like, do you reckon we can go through that iceberg since we’re unsinkable

[@ryanpayne9119]

The solution is, as CAP frequently says, "More men." Its got limited ammo and missiles, so if you send enough Hueys at it, it won't be able to shoot everyone down.

[@karlchilders5420]

Good shit cap, the the Tunguska is interesting to me and you showed me even more about that unit. I didn't know it was EO guided, that is helpful in terms of how to ID and avoid it...

[@Cg23sailor]

It is not E/O guided. Grim Reapers vid is filled with BS misinformation like that. Entertaining... but worthless in regards to knowledge and tactics.

[@karlchilders5420]

@@Cg23sailor not sure what you mean, as the SA-19 must certainly has EO tracking along with a typical conical radome and MMW and x band radar tracking and guidance systems. Where is the inaccuracy of the video eh???

[@stuge2589]

Fun video. Here's a possibly winning strategy for two hueys: fly in a close formation behind the closest treeline, stop there, then pop up at the same time and press in to fearlessly attack with everything (rockets and/or minigun). One attacker will be sacrificed for sure as the Tunguska will get the guns off, but the second attacker may survive long enough to kill it or even survive the whole thing!

[@naumanahmadtariq8717]

by the way who in his right frame of mind would go against a tanguska on a HUEEE ?

[@TheErilaz]

It is designed to provide day and night protection for infantry and tank regiments against low-flying aircraft, helicopters, and cruise missiles in all weather conditions. Tunguska-M has the 1RL144M radar with detection range 18 km and tracking range 16 km-near of the original system's. The mechanically scanned target acquisition radar for the Tunguska-M1 offers a 360-degree field of view, a detection range of around 18 km and can detect targets flying as low as 15 m. It has a search and a track radar, so a JDAM or a H.A.R.M from beyond 10 kilometres, or above 3,500 metres (11,500 ft) is the best option.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@visionary_8865]

You could do this easily, only if u follow below instructs: Take off n fly below tree line, then land n safely park the chopper in thick bushes, atleast 200 yrds away from the tunguska(huey hunter). Get down on ur feet, walk up to it, knock knock n say free burgers behind the bushes!! If luck is on ur side, thngs might work.

[@aceshigh6499]

This video was so entertaining. Keep up the great content fellas!

[@michaelrowland4021]

The OH-58 has the sensors mounted above the rotor blades. It just has to unmask the sensors.

[@sloppydog4831]

This is where a AH-64 would make the whole difference. I know, it's fun making this with Hueys. But playing the good old days of Jane's in DCS would be amazing.

[@skatterpro]

I'd love an AH-64. Such an ugly machine, pure nasty firepower.

[@sloppydog4831]

@@skatterpro and... with an amazing radar. Pop up, one sweep detects the Tunguska, fire from behind the tree line, pop up again to lock the target. Very nice.

[@MongooseTacticool]

Longbow 2 :) and Microprose Gunship 2000.

[@stuge2589]

Ka-50 can deal with these, too.

[@davidherron9151]

The only way to deal with a Tunguska in any helicopter is to land and call in artillery or A tank or hi altitude bomber . Being in an apache or mi 28 makes no difference. It would risky even in an a10 . It is literally designed to mawl slow air craft . If it sat in a field out of cover and you knew where it was you might be able to kamikaze one helo while another fires a faf before it is shot down. But you would need a serious missile. No point going behind tree,s or forest because the human inside the Tunguska can manually fire straight through the trees

[@kocovgoce]

This is one of the reasons why the British in Linux helicopters carry infantry equipped with Milan anti tank missiles. which are unloaded 1km from the place where they are considered to have hidden tunguska or shilka an to destroy it with an anti-tank missile. While the helicopter is hovering somewhere or landing and waiting until the terrain is cleared of anti aircraft systems and then goes on a tank hunt.But the danger still lies in the use of 30 mm Tunguska cannons against anti-tank teams

[@wessonsmithjr.6257]

a RADAR guided weapons platform and you think putting the Sun in his eyes is going to help:))))

[@stevenacton359]

A Radar back up with an optical system. if he starts to rely on his camera system - possibly, hey I'm no expert never claimed to be. i was spitballing, there are no stupid questions only stupid answers.

[@wessonsmithjr.6257]

Steven Acton don’t take my comment so seriously. It just struck me as funny. I didn’t call u stupid.

[@stevenacton359]

@@wessonsmithjr.6257 i didnt think for one second you called me stupid i saw the smiles at the end of you post glad you thought it was funny that was our intention to entertain. :-)

[@aaroncortright9860]

I'd like to see them create both the AH-64 Apache attack chopper and the Mi-24H "Hind" some day! I think they would be really cool to fly in DCS!

[@CaptinPelley]

Well do I have some news for you haha! (if you arent aware they were both added to the game)

[@Cg23sailor]

9:23 engagement... You did not evade shit. The missile went after your buddy, the second missile went after you. Tunguska was two for two. And did you really think they could be evaded in a Huey just because you evaded them in an Eagle? SMH... Did you seriously just compare a UH-1 to an F-15 in evasive ability? And then right after that while resetting you taking about performing a diving left "Notch" when the missile is fired. Notching has fuck all to do with evading an E/O weapon. Notching is a radar evasion technique, specifically against Doppler radar. I watched the video for the graphics, Sure as hell won't listen to you for tactics. During the next engagement right after than reset you still "notched left" when you should have evaded and terrain masked right along the tree rows paralleling the railroad tracks. Instead you put yourself in an open field instead of behind tree cover. Again.. your NOTCH did not work. that missile was after your buddy. The next missile got you. And By the way... Tunguska is not an E/O guided missile. It is radar controlled Command Guidance. You referred to it later is a SACLOS missile. Which is closer to reality than your E/O guidance you keep talking about, but it is not SACLOS, it is ACLOS. The radar tracks and guides the missile via automatic radio commands to the Missile. RADAR or E/O refers to how the missile is guided. SACLOS ACLOS MCLOS refers to how the missile is commanded by the guidance. MCLOS, SACLOS, and ACLOS is best understood in the concept of a crew operated system like an Anti-tank missile. The operator aims the weapon at the target and fires. With MCLOS, the operator has to actually steer the missile into the target (MANUAL Command Line of Sight) With SACLOS (Semi Automatic Command Line of Sight) The Operator just has to keep the target in the sights and the system itself generates the commands to steer the missile. With ACLOS, the system does all the tracking and the generating of the commands to steer the missile after the operator has designated the target and fired the missile. This is Tunguska. Radar tracks your helicopter and the operator designates you as a target and fires. The radar tracks your helo and the system automatically sends radio commands to the missile in flight. This entire video is rife with you not knowing WTF you're talking about. I just want to "Gibbs Slap" you up back the head every time you say "Contrast Lock" That is not how it works at all. Not for this missile. The GUNS can be aimed with a manual E/O sight if the radar is jammed... that's all.

[@dpicazo465]

Bad day?

[@only140]

tldr

[@paristo]

actually missile is radio commanded, not radar guided. Tunguska doesn't need radar at any phase to launch and guide missiles. It is search radar for long range target search when not connected to radar network via datalink to feed information of targets. The missiles are automatically or manually guided using a optical or FLIR sight. In automatic mode the FLIR is used to lock on target and it guides missile normally. In optical mode the gunner keeps reticle on target and guides missile on target. cannons can be aimed same way, but then as well automatically by radar. You use ranging radar for target ranging for cannons at longer ranges, but can shoot without at shorter distances like now in video. The idea of Tunguska is that it doesn't reveal itself to any target unless it uses a search radar. You don't get a search warning, no lock warning, no launch warning (other than maybe your MWS) and when it hits you, you have no idea what happened. The problem in DCS is that there ain't air defense network and cooperation between units. But this mission is against one tunguska, that doesn't know threat and so on would be using search radar to find targets and then proceed with those informations. You are right, you don't "notch", flare or jam the Tunguska. You can chaff to confuse ranging radar (1° beam width) but only when chaff is between tunguska and you, meaning when you are running away... Tunguska is annoying defender when properly used, and will put anything on ground that can't maneuver quickly enough, and that is where its weakness is, as DCS version doesn't use automatic FLIR tracking to shoot down those fast F-15C maneuvering. And it uses radar to reveal its location while no datalink to be given via EWR.

[@breadbinlal]

Relax, bruh

[@aboriani]

You must be fun at parties

[@Prometheus203]

Huey blades spin clockwise, but torque is opposite direction of spin so its trying to spin the air frame counter clockwise which is why left turn is faster.

[@wei06zhen18]

I am a Warthunder peasant, and I am indeed familiar with this sight

[@SimRacingPakistan]

Brilliant.... i will try this today with Ka50 + Rockets with a Xbox 360 Controller. Wish me luck... this looks TACTICALLY FUN !

[@jcat187]

Tunguska: "I'm about to end this man's career."

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@throkhan]

tunguska crew is grateful to you. you made tungunska crew promoted to the army commander

[@old_guard2431]

Soooo. . . Hueys with rifle-caliber (or "calibre", if you will) machine guns - M-60s and Mini-guns. 7.62mm Nato. The Tunguska is admittedly something like an APC chassis rather than a tank, with armor (or "armour", if you will) designed so it: " protects the vehicle from 7.62 mm small arms fire and shell splinters". (According to that un-impeachable source, Wikipedia. . .) Point being - if you had managed to get the drop on this vicious beast, what then? Sparky sparks, some hearing loss for the crew. Maybe you could disable the radar and optical guidance systems, but then they just drive off and get it fixed, back the next day.

[@Specter0420]

I've done it solo in VR. He has eight missiles. Make him waste them, then you stay at the edge of his gun range. Switch your burst to long.

[@freefall0483]

*cough cough* bullshit...

[@DemonLordGamingAC0]

Tunguskas have 4x 30mm autocannons. I've blazed past them in Viggens going mach 1 and it slapped me out of the sky with those guns more than once

[@ramjet7089]

Cap, if you are the target diversion you should not be masking anymore than to stay alive. You want to get the enemies attention as soon as you lift off to keep Camera unnoticed. To quickly descend in any helicopter drop the collective (your throttle).

[@iain8837]

Collective and throttle are two different things!

[@ramjet7089]

Iain Not to Cap!

[@wiranazahrin6262]

This is where a swarm of handy drones come in useful. Its turret will spin round and round like the girl in Exorcist

[@SkintAlot]

You need to increae the angle of attack. Have your aircraft at 180 degrees (or as wide as possible) from the tank. That way he can only look at one of you at a time while the other comes in from behind. He can't look in two opposite directions at the same time. Ok, just got to the point where you tried that tactic :)

[@gojeda]

A difficult mission, but it seems it seems the trick of the matter is to fire on him simultaneously from two different directions at the same time. A good deal of coordination and one of your choppers will likely be the sacrificial lamb when it is all said and done.

[@indyjons321]

Hopefully more modern/attack helis will be coming to DCS soon.

[@bmw540i]

indyjons321 DCS is a Cold War era simulator, so there wouldn't be modern equipment in it, so we're looking at up to mid 90's. But, saying that, should be able to get the AH-64 👍🏻

[@indyjons321]

@@bmw540i I mean things like the UH-60, AH-6 or OH-6, AH-64 A model at least.

[@jsilva4595]

They did confirm the mi-24 is in the works.

[@WebberAerialImaging]

Shame there's not a longbow Apache IG. That would work wonders on the tunguska as you could stay masked while popping him with hellfires.

[@stuge2589]

Careful Ka-50 pilotage can deal with Tunguskas with Vikhrs. It requires some caution though as the Tunguska and Vikhr have a very similar range.

[@bmbpdk]

Its called a cannon from 20.00mm and up if i remember correct.

[@janhruska4471]

Very good canons for infantry suppression, but with distance the real thing have huge spread. That's why smaller calliber with higher fire rate is better in shooting air targets. Avanger with Volcano or even Shilka should be better in terms of gun fire.

[@grimreapers]

Roger

[@supershamer]

It's like using a Semitruck as a scout/recon vehicle. 🤣 I loved watching this keep it up!

[@arjanbedi1729]

3:50 I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that lol.

[@skillful101]

this was frustrating to watch, you basically tried the SAME thing for five times you were popping up to early, then finally it dawned at you to try different angles and hidding till you were close enough

[@Wayoutthere]

At least the Tunguska had fun

[@matthewsutton5946]

This is where you call in some fast movers with AGM-88 HARM missiles

[@grimreapers]

yup

[@advorak8529]

Nash. If you want to do it with fat slow choppers, you pop up to make him turn on his search radar and then send him a few HARMs. Or even better, send a few ALARMs in indirect mode in his general area. They’ll zoom climb to 13km and pop a chute, looking for radars turning on … then the chute is capped, the second rocket stage speeds them down and the laser proximity fuse makes sure it’s an ex-radar. And if it is not dead then, it might want to eat a hellfire missile. PS: If it uses a contrast method to track you, how about smoke? Or even flying in front of trees, buildings, mountains …

[@Appreciation-Community]

I think you guys could have got it with a bit better team work and eye work. Hell at 21:00 your wingman says "go for it" then after he gets blasted asks where the target was. Maybe don't say go for it if you don't even know where "it" is. I think you guys should have just took turns popping up and down to bleed its ammo out. maybe try to get one chopper on its left and one on its right so that when its switching between aiming at the two in takes more time for the turret to turn. Bit of a weird mission anyway. I think realistically you would just want to avoid it and let something that fit the role do the job while at most providing data to the craft that fits the role better. Im not hating or anything by the way. A damn fine video as always. Those Tunguskas don't fuck around do they.

[@stevenacton359]

wasnt a mission as such it was a example of attacking a Tunguska and what to expect when doing so and the possible approaches to it. watch this space you seen nothing yet. Cap will deliver!!!

[@Seth90]

"... how to take down different types of SAMs" So, Uncle SAM when??

[@jeffreyvaughn6332]

in wet dreams

[@jwyliecullick8976]

Huey was not designed to hunt anything that advanced, or hunt at all really, even with retrofits is fundamentally a cargo plane, designed before attack helos even existed. That Tunguska is 80s or 90s epoch, Huey 60s.. Apache Longbow with the mast optics/mm-wave-radar allow Hellfire launch from defilade behind trees or whatever. DCS is full of overmatch, incomplete version inventory and no scenario building with epoch constraints.

[@Frozander]

Apparently War Thunder experience of playing helos against a Tunguska is pretty realistic

[@grimreapers]

Cool I will have a go

[@speelius]

Minigun door gunner? That should do the trick, quite OP.

[@napnic]

Good effort men!

[@Tulbia]

Oh, man. This flying is radically hectic.

[@bmw540i]

Did Cap call Camera, Coffee when they took off?? Lol, oh Cap 👍🏻🇬🇧

[@grimreapers]

I've got Coffee on the brain at he moment

[@stevenacton359]

ive been. called a lot worse. i almost changed my gamer tag in that vid :-)

[@cornbread5144]

*** Well, I say go low and fast, pop up and let the door gunners handle it. :) Good video guys.... :)

[@CaramelKittenz]

De l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace et la Patrie sera sauvée! You gave it the old college try...well done old chaps!

[@CaptianJoseph]

your videos are so entertaining

[@lolmao500]

How can you see the missiles??

[@teemu3981]

How do you make a small server for 2?! That would be amazing for a tutorial

[@teemu3981]

@@sahhull there must be something else because that has never worked for me

[@dhbroussard89]

I used to Shoot down so many choppers and fixed wing with the tung (30mm dual cannon plus 8 SAM) and its US counterpart (20 mm Rotary cannon plus 8 SAM) i started getting booted off the Games because the pilots could not have any fun....Less than a minute of flight time...If your Good!

[@razorseal]

Should try with the ka50

[@stevenacton359]

Huey huey huey huey huey........ you seeing a pattern?? yep Huey huey huey

[@bmw540i]

Lmao, Cap, you'll never believe this, but the advert playing now has "playing with boys" music , from Top Gun 😂😂😂😂👍🏻🇬🇧

[@grimreapers]

lol cool

[@WilliamKing-hf8lc]

"You Need To Stay Below The Tree Line!!"

[@ptrisonic]

I think I'd rely on a Harrier (or similar) with S.O. weapons or send in a discreet squad (or two) with a a handful of Javelins. Not very helpful I know... Best, Pete.

[@andyf8866]

Brilliant!

[@skatterpro]

Cap, what chopper do you recommend getting? I like capability, but fun is a priority. High learning curve is not a problem, quite the opposite. Definitely getting the BO105 once it comes out, but that's not happening anytime soon.

[@grimreapers]

Ka-50 = best weps Mi-8 = most challenging Huey = best flight model

[@skatterpro]

@@grimreapers Roger!

[@serban6995]

that's' why you should have Mavericks... or one of you must distract him and other make the killing blow. but who plays the role of goat rope is a dead man...

[@madyogi6164]

When you know from the start guys will get smeared on the ground like nutella on fresh roll...

[@thegenerousdegenerate9395]

Remember when we thought Desert Strike was sooo cool?! Lol

[@virnus1]

I realized that I no longer dream of becoming a military

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@snowboredsnj]

You need a cannon that fires Thresher Maws

[@code-dredd]

**Flies around close to the field** Why do I hear Russian boss music?

[@The_world_is_not_worthy_of_Him]

*_MOSKAU_*

[@Goyahkla100]

So why not be static and just pop up, use the trees, to much forward momentum. You dip down and he kills you is not much different than what has been happening. I went through three beers watching this........crazy man!........but watching the Reapers is so much fun, thanks guys.

[@JohnDoe-ni9zm]

Cap and Coffee going at it!

[@MrTurboTurkey]

Why were you guys ever above 5 feet off the ground? :p I like this challenge man, nice stuff!

[@Stubby0266]

Sync elevators on the UH don't move that much.

[@Nerb1]

Can the huey guns even kill it?

[@grimreapers]

never got a chance to find out :(

[@Tamburello_1994]

Gazelle might have been better choice

[@grimreapers]

Agree

[@tomj.7599]

Airgun against an elephant. You need Apache or Cobra.

[@tomj.7599]

@@sahhull True.

[@stephenzenerak7846]

Do those missiles even get affected by trees ... ?

[@grimreapers]

yes

[@grendul4497]

Is it even possible to notch a contrast missile? I’m not so sure you can, especially in a Huey.

[@grimreapers]

No but if u change direction fast enough the track can not keep up.

[@raixbox360]

20:56 why did you sidestep to the left side instead of facing it and hitting it with your missiles?

[@irememberjeepz]

At what point did you realize the SA-19 uses radar guidance as it’s primary fire control system? :-D Edit: ^WRONG! At least partially but definitely in terms of how it’s modeled in DCS.

[@MrBenski81]

For the life of me I don't know why you didn't take a wider R/H birth instead of following the tree/rail line.

[@liammahon515]

In real life, if you are a state and have 40 of these an S300 and a few S400 on around a base or capital for example how safe are you?

[@advorak8529]

Not at all against the cook coming in on a bicycle wearing a suicide vest, ICBMs, military coups, spies, ground troops, etc. But against hueys flying around bringing a paring knife to a machine gun fight, I would not worry.

[@adamparsons1725]

How are you doing? In general and with the Cancer fight? You sound more like yourself in this Vid! Hope all is well!

[@grimreapers]

Good thanks. Main tumour only 13cm at latest scan which is good.

[@piston_77]

Cap, does the sa19 give a radar warning on RWRs?

[@grimreapers]

only it's search. And track when it uses it's guns.

[@BcHmF]

Lesson here is: Stay away from the mighty Tunguska.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@maxwellness7693]

Try a coordinated spit roast

[@Pyzro]

Would it be possible to shoot him through the treeline while hovering?

[@grimreapers]

Actually yes, BUT that is considered a "game bug"

[@Pyzro]

@@grimreapers I would have to disagree- maybe if you were shooting through buildings or structures.

[@hugiebessie4513]

@@Pyzro Even though, the Cavalry tactic is to have multiple (4) helos hovering within shooting range, and popping up in turns. If you just run in and turn in, the SAM computer probably tracks any blips, predicts your next position, and waits for you. It may be worth to find out how many you need to overflood it.

[@cody42069420]

Hey Cap. Do you have rudder peddles? If so what kind so you use? I want to buy the UH1 but I don't have peddles. Is it worth it to buy the Huey without them?

[@therocinante3443]

He actually does not use rudder pedals at all. Just the twist of the joystick.

[@grimreapers]

neg I use twist stick. Twist stick is fine for all.

[@therocinante3443]

Sorry I answered for you, SuperCap!

[@stevenacton359]

see above for mine (Camera)

[@cody42069420]

@@stevenacton359 crazy how close our names are :o

[@brianahlers9937]

This is what the Gazelle is for.

[@stevenacton359]

The Gazelle - she no fly bueno

[@paultiffin6610]

NOE flying Cap...... nape of the earth.. use the trees and buildings and hunt... need a scout Gazzelle with a weapons chopper in tandem.

[@michaeldenesyk3195]

The Tunguska is on a par with the Gepard that was fielded in the 1970's. True, it was not equipped with Missiles, but the option and capability to equip the Gepard with Stingers were easy enough.

[@g3tphukcedgoogl3]

How much realism do you have with the heli controls?

[@grimreapers]

we have 100% controls of real UH-1H

[@stevenacton359]

i have a cheap set of thrustmaster t flight pedals a warthog stick with the springs removed and a 10 cm extension. and a microhelis collective modelled on the huey.

[@tbro8898]

POP UP AND DOWN BEHIND TREE AND ITEM THE SAM CAME NOT TURN AROUND BUILDING OR LAKE BED POP UP AND DOWN

[@Black-kn9gt]

Did you saw that machine in war thunder?

[@BrunoViniciusCampestrini]

A Ka-50 with anti-tank missiles and a radar would do WAY better

[@BrunoViniciusCampestrini]

@Alb 92, my mistake. I thought that the Ka-50 was able to carry fire-and-forget missiles, because, in that case, the range of the missile would not be a big factor since the helicopter could hide behind the terrain, make a popup, launch the missile and get behind cover again.

[@BrunoViniciusCampestrini]

I should add that a AH-64 with the radar mast would do even better with this tactic, unfortunatelly, the Apache is not in the game