Swedish Veteran describes the Horrors of Close Combat - Marine reacts

There are few things that can compare to the personal and utterly violent nature of close combat
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[@richardschleenvoigt4374]

As a Swede who used one of those machineguns (ksp58, our version of the m240) I can tell you that we do indeed not mess around. We were thought to use them to cut down entire walls in appartmentcomplexes if needed. Using ammunition is better than using lives is what our officers told us.

[@chrisburke624]

Good teachings. Bullets are bullets, they can't remotely take the place of people. Ex Canadian Forces here. We were told to fire through cars also, if enemy run & take cover behind a car. The rounds will fire right through unless it's the engine block. (Same applies when in firefights using our standard combat rifle, the C7A2/C8A2)

[@juliangriffiths9583]

@@chrisburke624 im joining the dutch army in about 2 years. How does the c7 shoot? Since its our service weapon too! Is it any good or is it worde than any nato service weapon?

Yeah, my experience too, and loads of 7,62 AP for both 58’s and Ak4’s.

[@chrisburke624]

@@juliangriffiths9583 Best of luck when you join, good sir! 🙂 The C7/C8 series of weapons are solid service rifles, in my opinion. They shoot well, durable enough, fairly easy to clean & maintain, and versatile with mods. I deployed to Afghanistan twice rocking my C7A2 (front handle, ACOG, and Pac-4 on the rails) and only had 1 stoppage on each tour. The SA80, the service rifle the Brits use, is the worst rifle in NATO!! (The new A2 model they've introduced is apparently much better, but overall is still a shi**y design...)

[@SonsOfLorgar]

And first guy in is always mr hand grenade

[@abcbadpassword]

That guy has one of the best swedish podcasts (even won podcast of the year) called Krigshistoriepodden, where they talk about military history! Great guy and great pod!

[@magnus1liljeqvist]

Best podd ever.

[@IAM1337OP]

Ära

[@AlexKall]

Yes they are brilliant, they compliment each other perfectly!

[@GustavafLindholmen]

Evig ära!

[@magnus1liljeqvist]

@@AlexKall yes and they really have to put many hours into one episode. Read some books. Spend time on internet. Write script and then talk to the other one about how to split everything up and so on.

[@FDCNC]

I've Seen the Swedish Marines do CQB and they are as smooth as butter.

[@niklaso1113]

Apparently the legendary Conrad von Hötzendorf was an expert at close combat warfare.

[@alfoalex7652]

Prisad vare hans namn

[@hanschristersson8343]

Ära!

[@jonasohman4179]

Öppna humidoren, och skåla i cognac!

[@magnus1liljeqvist]

🤣🤣🤣

[@shaggychode6664]

EVIG ÄRA!!!!!!!

[@herrakaarme]

That Swedish soldier really knew what he was talking about. Impressive video. After watching this with your comments, I know I'd like to clear buildings even less than I'd have thought before. Not that I'd have had much training for it anyway, so it would be an abnormal situation for me, anyway. But anything can happen in a war.

[@dman5501]

Watch "You don't give in to Tyrants" which is a Swedish volunteer who survived the russian onslaught on Kiev in the earliest stage. Incredible story

[@jeffccr3620]

The way I view it is I have the advantage if I am outside and they're in a building I can cut off all supplies and wait them out or burn them out Only way I would go inside a known enemy structure is if it's a rescue mission If it's not a rescue mission then they're the one's that needs to be rescued from me

[@docgillygun9531]

This was a great 1st person explanation that I really enjoyed. What is so interesting to me is that room to room house to house, building to building CQB clearance is so fast, up close and personal with instinctive primal responses backed by highly conditioned training, but at the same time longitudinally progress can be so painstakingly slow that the absolute physical and emotional grind is absolutely relentless. And this is repeated again and again without any time for any sort of emotional processing and recovery. These guys are literally line finely tuned super cars that are running a race by doing a burnout from start to finish.

[@Osvath97]

Interestingly, if you listen to the accounts of Medal of Honor winner David Bellavia, who were fighting in Fallujah, they started on the fly to use similar tactics to the Swedish CQB doctrine (especially with the machine guns and automatic rifles), as they realised that was just the safest in an extreme CQB environment like that.

[@Solidaritas1]

Lets not underscore that we also flattened Fallujah, yet we cried when Russia did the same to Mariupol, just because they're white people rather than brown.

[@robertohlen4980]

@@Solidaritas1 Oh, I really love some whataboutism, got any more?

[@Solidaritas1]

@@robertohlen4980 Not whataboutism in this case because I'm not using it to deflect from what Russia is doing, merely that we care when anybody else does it, but when we do it then its a priori just and right.

[@mrolsen6987]

@@Solidaritas1 The different is that the Russians have been shooting civilians just walking or on a bicycle, un armed.. And they have been doing it for fun. Even childrens.

[@Solidaritas1]

@@mrolsen6987 apparently you haven't seen the footage from brave people like Chelsea Manning who show our soldiers gunning down civilians for fun, treating them like rodents or cockroaches.

[@kristofferhellstrom]

Oooh. I remember his voice :D That guy has a really good Swedish pod called "Krigshistoriepodden".

[@sethburns1971]

Always appreciate your vids brother!

[@TheSwede9]

Cool reaction. First time as a Swedish person that I think I've seen a reaction video where it's subtitled in english and the person speaking is swedish. The translation was pretty spot on and this was an enjoyable watch! I had never heard of the person narrating this but he was so good at explaining all the details to a layman like myself. So captivating and also highlighted the difficulty of a soldier with the analogy of fighting in a lighted sports arena. I have never served but I have all the respect in the world for you guys and he really put it into perspective.

[@andersholmstrom3571]

This was a really good and informative video. This fellow obviously knows what he is talking about. During my time in the Swedish army I mainly trained for delaying actions in rural areas. The guy in the video mentioned that you get paranoid. The danger can come from anywhere, For years after my military srvice I constantly checked the terrain along the road when I was drivining. Constantly looking out for likely places for a fire assault. Being trained for delaying action, fire assaults is what you maily do so I was very much aware of the vanurability of trafick on a road passing suitable terrain for a fire assault.

[@johneriksson9356]

I listen to his/their War history podcasts everyday while I work it's such good and interesting stuff

[@davesaunders568]

Very impressive video, he had certainly been there seen it and done it. Good skills 👏

[@SwedishVilsten]

Some cool videos on that channel. Like the former swedish contractors encounter with Serbian warlords on the Balkans. Worth a watch.

[@magnus_lundgren]

In the tail end of the Cold War, Sweden planned six battalions to be specialized for urban warfare. I don't know how many of them that got set up before the cut-down of the armed forces, but my conscription back in 92-93 was for the battalion for central Stockholm. Back then, they told us that with a 10:1 advantage, they expected to take a defended building with only 50% losses. So simple math, they expected to lose five times as much as the defenders even had. On some of the exercises, we slept in the culverts of a former hospital that just had some "maintenance heating" making it 4 degrees Celsius (39F), and the floor just drained the heat straight out of us. We longed to get out and sleep in a tent in the forest, because a tent during winter would be warmer. I heard later that was a mistake, and it was supposed to be heated, and the other companies stayed in heated locations. But I think experience that level on suckage during training was a good thing, as the real deal is definitely a lot worse. As I'm back in green as part of the home-guard, I got a refresher training in CQB basics earlier this year, which for me was kind of a thirty year anniversary visit to one of the training sites shown in that video. Some details have changed, like the second holding the hand on the shoulder/back on the first (which, besides pushing also is for a bit of communication) and what to do directly after entering the room. A lot was the the same. So it was more a tweak of what we learned back then.

[@MrPebede]

Stockholm S.S K1?

[@Jonsson474]

That channel, Militärt, is superb. Really high quality content.

[@randomguy4184]

Militärt is a gold mine of videos, i recommend that you look at some more of them!

[@EricTheSwede]

We might be a small nation, but I'm so immensely proud of our men and women who served, and continue to serve. We might not have been in a war of our own for a very long time, but we have almost a hundred years of experience in others'. From medical duties in Korea, to peacekeeping in Kongo, Bosnia, Mali and Afghanistan we've accumulated a TON of experience that I'm glad gets used in some capacity!

[@tomw6947]

How do you feel about Sweden joining NATO? Sweden is a great country and huge respect too your military from the UK.

[@2011granit]

You forgot Libanon, Cyprys Liberia,Somalia, Iraq, Syria

[@andersmalmgren6528]

@@tomw6947 i have been pro NATO my entire life. Just now my fellow swedes wake up :)

[@aONE_]

@@andersmalmgren6528indeed

[@Brecconable]

@@andersmalmgren6528 Nah you've taken the blue pill and gone woke.

[@fabianbergstrom1306]

Like someone else said you should watch more videos from this channel. They are great!

[@Pih_TV]

As a Swedish vet myself we used a lot of these tactics in actual sitautions. But, we also ignored a lot of it. If there is a threat in an urban environment you just blow yourself inside and being even more violent than in this video.

[@zlirren]

nu är jag inte någon veteran själv men min körlärare i gymnasiet va major på A3 innan det lades ned och av det han sa så uppfattade jag att överväldigande eldkraft och brutalitet va det som vinner strider.

[@Legjia]

Thanx for a great vid! I spent alot of time doing CQC/CQB so I know exactly what this guy is on about, I started writing a comment but it started to sound like an essay so I stoped and just to say again thanx for the video :D

[@maghambor]

He's got a lot of good points and so do you. Well done!

[@PiffyPerssson]

This is spot on from the training I got as a northern ranger in Sweden long time ago. Happy to see that the intensity is the same

[@DeathWithinTenSteps]

Samma gröntjänst. Samma känsla av videon.

[@Gripenace]

Very informative clip. I guess it matches the actual environment in war, which is very brutal.

[@jimmya1646]

This was intense and interesting. I am a Swede, never seen this before. But I've seen some US military videos showing the same techniques with instructors, interesting to see that some countries utilise smilar or the same techniques! Should make for an "easy coop international operation" in the field I guess?

[@sterneis1]

Thank you for your videos. you analyse very well. i am a metal craftsman, not a soldier. but its interesting to learn the art of war.

[@jaskapenttila7644]

There's a video of Finnish Jägers in a International unit in Ukraine. Sniper team from what I understood and they encounter a BMP/BTR and one of them takes a hit. It's an interesting watch and it has some funny references to Finnish popular culture.

[@jonastheswede6256]

A link would be nice.

[@jaskapenttila7644]

@@jonastheswede6256 of course here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oojPnJKFfa-EabM

[@TheDeltasteve]

Yes, a link please

[@kuukkeli8865]

@@jonastheswede6256 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oojPnJKFfa-EabM

[@stridsbulten]

@@TheDeltasteve kzbin.info/www/bejne/oojPnJKFfa-EabM

[@Proximax9]

as an ex tank guy, we only did a little bit of CQB training, but it was very interesting. Would have loved to dive more deeply into it. But of course our focus was on tank warfare, so for us general rule of thumb was to just avoid getting into fights in cities.... so no luck there :D

[@Proximax9]

@@abrahamlevi3556 well the leo2 which we used doesn't have enough gun elevation to survive very long in urban environment. But cqb on foot was fun to try out :)

[@TheQuantumPotato]

One thing that occurred to me when I was watching this was how much of a deathtrap those fire doors that have a heavy spring to close them automatically must be. I was just thinking that every door in a building I was in today was one of those doors. If you boot them open, they'll be half closed by the time your foot is back on the ground.

[@galenbjorn443]

my father is educated and traind in city combat, and when he talk about what they did in training and practicing its sounds like hell. I'm from Sweden as well

[@jeffreytoledo5130]

It was funny people were talking shit about how long it took the Philippine Military in taking Marawi City, Lanao del Sur, Mindanao. It took them about 5 months in clearing the city. The know-it-alls of this world are freaking funny.😂 Great vlog, brother! Keep it up! Stay Safe!😉

[@gameram6382]

Remember doing a compound raid and building cleaning. At night, very intense, just moving up to the target area was stressful enough

[@emil37094]

great video from a swede, could we get some more SOG reaction videos? :)

[@jensskjeld2598]

Great vid dude

[@matthewbaxter8558]

Iam very impressed by his analysis. Ill go and check out the battle Hue.

[@johankaewberg8162]

There was an Amiga game named SWAT which was all about clearing a building with a small squad.. The man is basically explaining the way to play. Respect.

[@saruwarti]

you asked for in the end for video, where they go through what happens mentally and physically I would recommend Har du dödat någon? (Have you killed someone?) It is a swedish mini documentary about what is like to do a tour abroad, how is it coming home and what question can you get if you tell you been or they know you been. unfortunately it's available in swedish without subtitles, but militärt which had this video also has a one about the effects of combat fatigue mentally. Also Sebastian Junger has a couple of good speeches about why some soldiers miss war and have a hard time to adjust back to everyday life.

[@Denzamusic]

This is why those home guard soldiers or national guards soldier(or what it is called) comes in. Having like the main army fighting in cities they are not from is difficult. Better to use those home soldiers. Luckily in Sweden we have a lot of them, so I thinknwe would manage urban combat quite good. Knowing your terrain, alleyways, forests and so on, really makes a difference.

[@simonceesay2187]

Im in the homeguard, and we are severly lacking training in cqb. We are meat for the grinder :) but as you said atleast there are alot of us

[@rosen9425]

Oh, I do remember us having light CQB training. Just a bone standard detached rural house was impossible to clear effectively, we would've been taken out very easily. There's a reason specialized units exists for this.

[@Kottekungen]

The soldier is named Per, today he is a awsome podcaster and father of 3.

[@gordonsylvester8457]

He has 3 kids and joint war. He is suck more than I thought

[@theodoreconley-bf4qh]

Hand contact is from left to right shoulder so you know where your 6 has a shot moving or prone, squeeze of the hand gives him heads up of a verbal command

[@johanbtheman]

Would be cool to see some reaction on MACV SOG, old but relevant

[@RemoW74]

As a finn, it's always good to have great neighbours.

[@DjJ0SHWA]

I'd love to see your reaction to Civ Div's combat footage from Ukraine. Especially his newest 4 part series starting off with Destroying a BMP with an NLAW

[@Pederfoggy]

Do more vids about Sweden!❤

[@KarILsson]

7:52 If i remember correctly the Azovstal steel factory was build to better withstand a nuclear explosion during the cold war and have Nuclear-proof bunkers under the build as well so its like a fotress.

During the early nineties I served in a national guard QRF in Stockholm. We actively opted to stay with the AK4 (7,62) instead of switching over to the AK5 (5,56) to be able to penetrate brick or concrete walls better (especially with AP). We also had loads of offensive grenades, a ridiculous amount of AT4's and a lot of explosives (and ladders). If remember correctly we always trained using max force and agressiveness as the enemy planned for were Spetznas/GRU or VDV. I think the plan was to possibly sacrifice some civilians rather than risk losing momentum and also to keep our own casualities down as Sweden at that point probably had not fully mobilized.

[@winstonsmith2539]

Just a correction the national guard QRF (hemvärnets insatsplutoner) did not opt to keep the AK4 for any of those reasons, the whole national guard was forced to keep them for budget reasons (and silly traditionalists). And they still use them to this day all over the country. I think you are mixing up the national guard (hemvärnet) with stadsskytte. some of the stadsskytte infantry and mech infantry units specifically tasked with defending Stockholm, and other cities in the late 90s actually kept the AK4 for a few years extra for the exact reason you mention.

@@winstonsmith2539 Nope, we were a quasi experimental outfit for evaluating motorized qrf type units in "Hemvärnet" and we really had some freedom regarding armament. The unit, Södra Kretsstabens Skyddspluton, is long since disbanded. Apart from the AK4 we had 4xAK4B, 4xSteyr SSG69 (later swapped for PSG90), and 4x KSP58. One recurring guest was the head of the Swedish Defense Material Administrions small caliber section (anything less than 20mm). We trained at least one weekend every month at the urban combat center at Livgardet.

We also, like Evans Carlsons Marine Raiders, had no real rank structure and each group decided themselves who would be squad leader.

[@winstonsmith2539]

@ oh well, a unicorn unit.. who could have guessed. Did you get to have a beret to? :-) sounds like something out of nittiettan..

[@ratdevil5393]

I´m trained as a Urban warfare in Sweden , this man explain it real good

[@mattiashartzell4640]

Love from Sweden

[@retardedroofer3123]

I love your content man. You have a great point of view and knowledge and you don’t comment non stop. You earned a sub from me. Try to cover more Ukrainian footage. It’s crazy to watch.

[@Broken_dish]

imop you can neve have enough nades in these situations never enough...great video

[@Markush444]

For me is something strange, when in videos those light blocks are referred as concrete wall in US or Canada, what ever they are called. In Nordics "old" normal concrete wall is full poured molds with cement/sand/gravel/random stone and rebar, without pre casted bricks. Its pretty much totally different substance. I find it funny when they shoot 12.7mm/.50cal thru those blocks, try it on Swedish concrete 20cm thick. I bet fail.

[@bedtimestories4927]

Very good overview. Hard to comment anything on other than there are actual academical books and research made on urban warfare. Just take Col. Liam Collins, PhD. His studies alone are the basis of all modern urban warfare research.

[@caeliss3324]

Just a question, how do they decided who's the first one to enter? Do they already have a formation or it's whoever is closer to the entrance?

[@peterrobinson9402]

Worse when the enemy combatants look the same as the civilians and the civilians hate you too.

[@jonber9411]

If you have many alternate routes of entry, like several windows and doors- could you use the fear and tension of the enemy to force his focus. By this i mean, make it seem like you are coming in through the door nr 1, throw grenades, light it up. Then quickly and silently change position and make entry by door 2. The guys inside should be really afraid as well and their focus ought to be directed at where the entry team last made noise. If you gain one or two seconds of their focus that should mean much right? I have no clue since i am not trained in this. But inutiviely it feels like handing an advantage to enter without trying to trick or feind the opponent.

[@sveannnnnnn7578]

can you show a video when you show your medals and talk about your deployments best you can when you got the medal

[@victoralexanderkangas8756]

It is interesting how most people are interested in CQB as a combat form, while it is the most dreadful and guaranteed death or wounded scenario for each individual, at least highest probability. As for training it is fun but in reality, i'd guess some form of scouting/recon mission or sabotage/hit and run would be the go to for those who seek some frontline action with more probability of survival.

[@mrrobbra]

www.youtube.com/@Krigshistoriepodden Thats their poddcast, sadly they have not added subtitles yet. But it is wery interesting to listen to them because they have a way to explain history like you are a couple of friends talking over a beer 🍻

[@scottyfox6376]

Do soldiers use any form of hearing protect during combat or is it too dangerous to limit any hearing ?

[@pyttpytts2690]

At 4:15, they make a mistake, the guy opening the door, would not be the guy entering, usual one would had a guy+cower, on the other side, who only job is to open the door, reason, so you don't take down your gun, and are always ready to fire at 19:07 they do it more right, except none is stacked up and ready to go

[@SonsOfLorgar]

It also depends on if the door is in a corridor, a single room or a stair well and how far in each direction you've cleared or have covered by overwatch.

[@boundbytanks8883]

Oh btw "Militärt" has the "ä" in it (the 2 dot above A) which is pronounced like the Ae in aeroplane instead of "mili-tart" xD

[@RyanRyzzo]

A of "apple" is a better example :) and more likely pronounced as Ä

[@boundbytanks8883]

@@RyanRyzzo i feel like Ä is more eeeeh than Aaah speaking as a swede.. of course

[@daw7563]

Oj det var ju viktigt att reda ut.... suck

[@Richie8406]

4:30 The fist thing has to be an awareness check, Stack 12345. Also to say I am here, push forward.

[@martinsolden77]

Also you need people outside protecting the building or buildings your breaching...and thats takes even more people and shortens your time frame..

[@ericmyrs]

Bajsfäller. Oh my god, that's certainly a word for punji sticks. I love it.

[@EddieTheEagle1978]

4.12 its not about pushing coward friend into the room. It`s about communication and working together.

[@Richie8406]

This is how you say Yankee in Swedish: Jänkarna 3:46

[@chrillemekniven]

In the Swedish soldiers instruction from 1956, they write a way to recognize friend or foe in CQB. Stick sand paper to your back so that your team can feel that you are ar good guy, or smearing your self with Garlic oil so that you can smell your friend... When we entered rooms to clear them in exercise, if the element of surprise is gone, you just go full auto with the FN Mag after a grenade or two, you don´t have time for slicing;-)

[@fanrik9583]

3:49 He's actually saying "The Yankees call it "The Great Equaliser"" lol In Denmark we've transitioned from dynamic entry to "defensive entry" i.e. slicing as much as possible of the room before entering. I assumed this was something we had learned from the Americans? UF Pro has a video lecture on this style of entry on KZbin if you're interested.

[@JustYesNo]

That swede also have a military history podcast called krigshistoriepodden.

[@IstvanThree]

Almost 10 years ago I saw a clip here on YT from a soldier with PTSD, who was in Iraq and did this exact thing, he blew a hole into the back of a building with a MLAW (I think it´s called) - what he did not know was that behind that wall was a family of 4 and his rocket killed the husband and the 2 children in a pretty nasty way. This had him having a complete mental breakdown there, which again the mother noticed and in the end comforted him and told him inshallah, if it´s gods will. A both horrible and heartwarming story in one. Just saying because he talks about errors that can be made during such times.

[@ciilqabeduubi3953]

Can someone tell me where can i find that footages of Russian troops in Mariupol? I once saw the trailer but couldn’t find it

[@alexxxXXXrus]

Western PR agencies wont pay for that

[@bengt-goranpersson5125]

13:41 - My home town

[@jojojojojojo90]

You should react to the swedish Jägarsoldat series

[@SamGray]

Many nations train-train-train clearing buildings and have extensive techniques about it, but what about Defending buildings?

[@mikewright7964]

The ending scared me. I wonder how the world will look like in the future. I hope there will be some sort of revolution to fix this crazy crap.

[@theseptembersessions_music]

I think suppressing with a stun/flash is in it's place?

[@lafeeshmeister]

24:26 "Fighting in urban areas will be like fighting in a lighted sports arena." Modern gladiators.

[@erikwhateveryou]

what is those hexagon shapes on the walls? seen on other youtuber american reacting to war.

[@joelhernstrom6060]

Sound isolation

[@Richie8406]

24:00 Specific, to nuclear? Interesting, guessing you guys have to learn some light fission, how it works. Also, very specific clearing compared to war, I am guessing. Blueprints ready, every room etc.

[@viktoria.j.a.1066]

Underbart Heja Sverige

[@johanjonsson3591]

Refreshing to hear this and see the size of him. Compare him with the muscle tiktok warriors. I know wich soldier i would fear to meet!

[@korallrev3497]

this is a good comparisson to Sarajevo in the 90's never got overtaken

[@Xceqter13]

Krigshistoriepodden ❤️

[@_brlek_7164]

There is one on yt, the arrest of el chapo. Filmed by mexican marines. Complete madness, there was also a dude with an rpg standing on top of the starirs.

[@squidcaps4308]

A tip: platoon or a company does not say anything to a lay-person, there is no indication of scale. That could be beneficial, to know at least is it 10 or 10 000..

[@timkeenan7419]

House clearing is dangerous scary work

[@TBFI_Botswana]

Not having taken part in a war for 220 years - well dob e Swedish person 👊👊

[@midnightfox6378]

Can you react to 2nd half of Full Metal Jacket?

[@midnightfox6378]

Like Full Metal Jacket (13/15) clip on youtube

[@kongchen3122]

Could get a car mirror and check the room out before, save a lot of Grenada, it’s not like you can drag every room

[@DeathForSk8]

Sounds like the guy in the front is used as a meat shield. Why not equip him with a bulletproof shield similar to the riot shields?

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Because a shield would just make it more cumbersome and him more vulnerable to melee attacks from the side as he moved in since a shield only covers one direction.

[@zacteakell4373]

So if you’re a breacher are u just a guaranteed deadman as your first or second going into these places it feels like that’s 100% on that.

[@dexterstunt542]

Just for translations sake, when hes talking about the punji sticks, in sweidsh he litterally says a giant variant of "vietnamese p'''p traps" "vietnamesiska bajs fällor"

[@karl-erikmumler9820]

I trained in this. I know that I never want to have to do it for real. Stockholm is a Swiss cheese underground.

[@hauptfachhauptfach6202]

2 main reasons why i dont want to go to CQB unless i have too 1 reasons traps 2 hand to hand combat

[@clintbillton2161]

I had no idea the Swedish military was so competent!! I thought they at the best was shooting soap bubbles, eyelashes and sweet words. ... Now I know some of them don't.

[@yxorvar]

We've been in Congo, Libanon, Cyprus, Balkans and Afghanistan (among others), generally famous for shooting a lot and being flexible with ROE. Look up Nordbat 2 (shootbat).

[@amadeuz8161]

Like before this war drones were a uncommon thing and more a special situation thing, but it like took over the job of scouts. So movies 3d map over a structure with a computer keeping count on spotted enemies and small inside drones doing the spotting might not be that faar away. As drones has proved to save time and lives outside someone will try to mass implement them inside. Im not talking about mission impossible accurate maps but already knowing amount and floor of the enemies helps a lot. At some point machines will take over on the military front too as it has in the industry, today a factory that needed 10000 people works with 100.

[@yxorvar]

The issue is that most drones are easy to jam and it's even easier to triangluate the operator. Drone-soldiers in Ukraine had a life-expectancy of about 3 days for the first couple of months.

[@amadeuz8161]

@@yxorvar If they jam a drone you at least know for sure someone is there and if you are like in the same building within 10m of the drone I assume its easier to counter the counter measures. Like they already have the drones small enough so in theory we have the tech for it just not yet produced in mass. I have a tiny memory of China somehow giving Russia the capability to track the drones at the beginning, not 100% sure anymore because its almost a year ago.

[@MatteV2]

A buddy of mine told me that when it comes to CQB, explosives and firepower reign supreme, and if all you need to do is remove an enemy, fuck the building and express deliver a 12cm HE shell through the window from a Leopard 2.

[@pqsnet]

That is so true ---> 19:22 This winter, we went to the swedish countryside in Södermanland to a cottage in a willage where people have lived for at least 1000 years, and the maps goes back to the 1600s. In that modernized Blockhaus, we had the warming just so the water wouldnt freeze, went in there with full winted gear, took of the shoes with doubble socks put on, and i frooze my feets in 20 min and couldnt feel my toes. And when putting the boots back on, they were freezing too. Cold houses is no joke. And if in concrete, its even worse beacuse of the moist.

[@slayer6936]

I help train many units and the DEA to deploy and we would run them through shoot houses day after day to get it right but still all the training in the world will not prepare you for what really happens in CQB!! But the muscle memory will help majorly!!