Come Hang with Malice #9: Mencius Moldbug

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Michael Malice

Michael Malice

Күн бұрын

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@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy 4 жыл бұрын
0:54 Moldbug, messy look 4:04 Question #1 7:00 Wndell Wilkie, One Worldism 10:55 Favorite Historical Period? 14:10 Sumptuary Laws 16:00 Chesterton's Fence 17:50 Raising A Child 19:10 Favorite Books? 20:44 Wars to Save Lives? 21:30 Preventing WWI Hypothetical? Look to Nicholas II 26:30 WWI Propoganda 27:47 Mencius the philosopher 28:45 Right-Leaning, means favoring Order over Chaos Democracy --> Informal Power Structures (Intrinsic Disorder) Armies, Academies, Companies --> Ordered As a Pyramid 32:07 How do you teach someone to think for themselves? 33:24 Let the child solve the problem (Most) Children are rebellious 37:57 Education Upbringing 39:02 Thoughts on writing 40:55 PBS!! ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS 43:14 Culture shift 46:38 Climate Change 50:02 1890's-1970's (The Earth Is Colder Than It Should Be) "We're in the middle of an Ice Age in a warm period" 53:20 Nuclear Power? 54:26 Power 56:08 India-Pakistan 58:20 The Spartans 1:00:00 Henry Wallace and The Ruling Class Mindset 1:02:10 2020? The Power Generator System 1:04:18 Traditional American Dream, America is Vast with Culture Social Class affects Culture 1:07:50 Changes in Power precede Changes in Culture 1:08:45 Underappreciated Culture? - Egyptians? 1:10:10 Con Man Donald Trump 1:10:45 Neutral on China 1:15:45 The Law of Nations 1:17:19 Citizenship 1:19:25 Mars Colony? 1:20:15 Lady Gaga. Johnny Neuman 1:22:30 Being a Middle Aged person. 1:23:00 Germany? 1:25:40 US Stock Market, Crypto Currency? 1:27:00 Writers who know Curtis 1:29:30 The Distributist question 1:30:00 AI and Humans 1:31:20
@HarryPainter
@HarryPainter 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks, any of it worth watching?
@skillzilla111
@skillzilla111 4 жыл бұрын
What we really need is a list of all the books he mentions.
@dpiddy022
@dpiddy022 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for your service
@jakeholland1825
@jakeholland1825 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@hueydao8637
@hueydao8637 4 жыл бұрын
Gang gang
@Ubiquitousness
@Ubiquitousness 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter asked if these were the two guys that go back in time and start a band, and now I can’t unsee it.
@Sam-xg3mr
@Sam-xg3mr 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously underrated comment
@ChrisBakerauthor
@ChrisBakerauthor 3 жыл бұрын
It's Bill and Ted preparing for an excellent adventure.
@JM-co6rf
@JM-co6rf 3 жыл бұрын
holy shit
@esterhudson5104
@esterhudson5104 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@kyleburke6591
@kyleburke6591 3 жыл бұрын
L see l no
@furyofbongos
@furyofbongos 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug on climate change: From the perspective of someone studying it, if you say it's a problem, you are important, if you say it's not a problem you are not important and you become the enemy of all who say it's important. So in the marketplace of ideas, those on the side of "important" are going to win. So the fact that the people that worry about this have won all the battles in academia doesn't tell you anything. Genuine scientific inquiry would consider the benefits instead of solely the costs.
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 4 жыл бұрын
You just watched a Scott Adams video. I'm not saying there is no upside to climate change. Sure, some cold places will be warmer which makes them more comfortable for _some_ people. The downsides to climate change far outstrip the upsides, if any.
@furyofbongos
@furyofbongos 4 жыл бұрын
@@tolpacourt If you read my post, all I was doing was quoting Moldbug.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug's got the sociology of science down. Of course, sometimes the sociology and the science point the same way.
@jcs27
@jcs27 4 жыл бұрын
Climate Change is not even real, and the proposed ideas for tackling it are essentially either useless (carbon tax) or destructive (spraying the upper layer with a shadowing layer to reduce the sun light) or hyper expensive. It's the green's idea of heaven on Earth, like the commies equality shit, its a perpetual motion machine, so generation after generation can poor in effort and resources so the masses can be docile. Just look at the data, look what Tony Heller has to say about it.
@Gigabomber
@Gigabomber 4 жыл бұрын
@@tolpacourt increased average crop yield in a world in which millions starve each year.
@eleganz
@eleganz 2 жыл бұрын
the way these two get along intellectually and comedically is actually pretty charming.
@intredastingvideos9365
@intredastingvideos9365 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine the pain The Distributist is feeling after moldbug saying "i think i've heard that name somewhere". lol
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 жыл бұрын
I think he heard about the Distributist from Bogbeef on the Good Ol’ Boys podcast.
@M_reapr
@M_reapr 4 жыл бұрын
Haha distributist os modest enough
@mememagician97
@mememagician97 4 жыл бұрын
senpai didnt noticed
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Nick Land feels about Curtis not reading him lol
@ThePoliticrat
@ThePoliticrat 4 жыл бұрын
I might have Dave on my livestream
@gabrielsyme4180
@gabrielsyme4180 4 жыл бұрын
Guy who made millions in Silicon Valley can’t manage to get his hands on a decent mic and webcam.
@theguy9067
@theguy9067 4 жыл бұрын
He's just pretending not to care. Let him be :P
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 3 жыл бұрын
$100 microphone would make a world of difference
@andyc8215
@andyc8215 3 жыл бұрын
can never complain about that personally after watching so many sam hyde videos
@GourmetGarbage
@GourmetGarbage 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@bepatientIhaveautism
@bepatientIhaveautism 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyc8215 leave samantha alone
@davidsopher6871
@davidsopher6871 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug swigging congac straight from the bottle sums up everything
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 3 жыл бұрын
2020 was a long couple of years for me too
@9ramthebuffs9
@9ramthebuffs9 8 ай бұрын
his wife was dying of cancer
@that1guy375
@that1guy375 4 жыл бұрын
I like Moldbug on other podcasts of course, but he's always the best when he's talking with Malice.
@bradders9743
@bradders9743 4 жыл бұрын
Hes a 100x better writer than a speaker. Read his books. His talks with Malice are alright. His public talks are terrible. His books and blogs are literary mana.
@sunset-inn
@sunset-inn 4 жыл бұрын
What's your profile picture from?
@that1guy375
@that1guy375 4 жыл бұрын
@@sunset-inn It's an album, World is Yours from the Mass of The Fermenting Dregs. It's a Japanese band.
@that1guy375
@that1guy375 4 жыл бұрын
@@bradders9743 You are 100% correct.
@gundabalf
@gundabalf 3 жыл бұрын
yeah he seems more relaxed
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 4 жыл бұрын
“All children are rebellious, at least if they’re any good.” There’s a picture book in there.
@esterhudson5104
@esterhudson5104 3 жыл бұрын
Especially if they are naughty little monkeys…C. George.
@dylanblack3279
@dylanblack3279 3 жыл бұрын
So let's hope that Gen Alpha becomes very right wing and rebels against their hypocritical post-liberal parents and other leaders in a couple decades.
@clivemathieu9386
@clivemathieu9386 4 жыл бұрын
So this is the scary “far-right” person they speak of.... lol
@stevemcrichards8768
@stevemcrichards8768 3 жыл бұрын
He is very scary. You might find out what Progressivism actually is and really despise it for how it has undermined the USA for over 100 years.
@alexcipriani6003
@alexcipriani6003 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that’s what I thought is this the big scare? was expecting something something worst than Molyneux...with that said equally uninteresting. He doesn’t suck as much as Michael but still boring
@Blackoutwhiteout23
@Blackoutwhiteout23 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexcipriani6003 Ohhh mann your life must be sooo fun then. take my wife you reckless hero
@jiveturkey9993
@jiveturkey9993 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blackoutwhiteout23 Alex Cipriani must have like a 400 IQ if malice and moldbug are mere boring provincial plebs.
@hectorg1752
@hectorg1752 3 жыл бұрын
This is the “dangerous” guy Eric Weinstein warned us about.
@Deshift00
@Deshift00 4 жыл бұрын
mo'bugs mo'problems
@rainerbogle1958
@rainerbogle1958 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they skip over (get distracted) the question "Do you see a path to defeating the Silicon Valley Cartel?" at 0:31:00. Next time they should discuss this for sure.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the cartel's relations with Big Brother (the IC)...it may shapeshift into something less obviously monstrous, but its essence will persist.
@brendancoulter5761
@brendancoulter5761 3 жыл бұрын
I think the answer is they dont, other wise it would be a priority for discussion.
@KarenTookTheKids364
@KarenTookTheKids364 4 жыл бұрын
Molbug looks twenty years younger from the last time I saw him wtf
@demun6065
@demun6065 3 жыл бұрын
@bleh taart does he love as Fabio loves?
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 3 жыл бұрын
My copy of _The Machiavellians_ is in the mail. Thanks, you two! Beats the hell out of graduate school.
@pattyb6003
@pattyb6003 4 жыл бұрын
We used to look for understanding at the sacred place, Church. Now we look for sanctity at the knowledge place, University.
@micksburg
@micksburg 4 жыл бұрын
The atheistic church, a religion with no god
@troyfitch6440
@troyfitch6440 4 жыл бұрын
@@dtt3104 God loves the atheist just as much, he just doesn't hear his prayers until the hurricane 🤣
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
And just as the first game ended the Church, the second, if persisted in, will end the University.
@CurseMyCircuits
@CurseMyCircuits 3 жыл бұрын
Can't second the Robert Lowell rec hard enough, especially his early work. "After The Surprising Conversions" is a personal favorite
@RiksFunStuff
@RiksFunStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug with long hair reminds me of Douglas Reynholm from the IT crowd.
@bobbyaxelrod5959
@bobbyaxelrod5959 4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was trying to put together! He totally does. Thanks for that.
@christhomasism
@christhomasism 4 жыл бұрын
The best duo
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign 4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and informative👍
@shenlonggohan
@shenlonggohan 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe deliberately not speaking about politics at home leads children to question what is being taught at schools. My completely anecdotal experience monitoring families and their political/ethical/social discussions between generations, I have found next to nothing is discussed. Yet the beigists continue to be churned out at an indomitable rate. Isn't this a point Malice makes often, the right is to blame for allowing the complete takeover of academia and education by the left. Parents have outsourced the education and nurturing of their children, really delegated parenting entirely, to the state, public schools, and strangers. From what I can tell, it hasn't led to a generation of sagacious, independent thinkers at the fore of an intelligent revolution. Just more of the same trite and fallacious arguments/ideas from earlier centuries.
@slambrew3849
@slambrew3849 3 жыл бұрын
The left hasn’t taken over education lol
@slambrew3849
@slambrew3849 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon May No they haven't. If they did, we'd have more powerful unions and universal healthcare.
@slambrew3849
@slambrew3849 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon May You're too concerned with culture war nonsense. Class politics is king right now, get with it.
@gloriouscontent3538
@gloriouscontent3538 3 жыл бұрын
Lets go Brandon.
@TheChuck181
@TheChuck181 2 жыл бұрын
As a new Dad that was a great answer and thanks to the donor for asking. That really makes a lot of sense and will stick with me as they get older.
@miketrombly6652
@miketrombly6652 4 жыл бұрын
Here for the ‘umm umm umumumum’
@robartlum
@robartlum 4 жыл бұрын
It’s his calling card.
@Ubiquitousness
@Ubiquitousness 3 жыл бұрын
Better than the Zizek sniff.
@intredastingvideos9365
@intredastingvideos9365 4 жыл бұрын
hell yeah. more moldbug.
@perrinlance3885
@perrinlance3885 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug looks like Mr. C (Cooper's evil doppelganger) from Twin Peaks Season 3. Love it.
@PrincipledUncertainty
@PrincipledUncertainty 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug was on point. The ums and ahs are gone.
@JeezVince
@JeezVince 4 жыл бұрын
almost gone, i still got triggered
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 4 жыл бұрын
I never minded them, but I think he’s been tucking them into his laughs.
@wetdroidedition2549
@wetdroidedition2549 4 жыл бұрын
Wine helps
@PrincipledUncertainty
@PrincipledUncertainty 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeezVince Yeah, gone was stretching it.
@akshaysubramaniam8963
@akshaysubramaniam8963 3 жыл бұрын
1.5x-1.75x gets rid of most of it. As in shortens them.
@angrynotwhiteman
@angrynotwhiteman 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug looks exactly the way every weird looking bald man pictures himself, if only he could have long hair.
@DrProgNerd
@DrProgNerd 3 жыл бұрын
As a weird bald man, I find the accuracy of that statement offensive.
@trestres875
@trestres875 4 жыл бұрын
18:00 ish - temperature might be a linear progression based on an algorithmic or exponential increase of Co2 but that isnt the only factor, and temperature itself isnt the endgame; a single digit temperatur increase itself has non-linear effects on climate - weather, glaciers/sea level etc. its complicated and what is negative in one area could be positive in another.. but you can't question that we ARE having an impact
@stevem815
@stevem815 4 жыл бұрын
The last sentence reads like a bit of a retreat to the motte.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
He skipped the problem of uncertainty and the Talebian fat tails it includes.
@meowmeow_beans
@meowmeow_beans 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!.. malice and moldbug!
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign 4 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 2 жыл бұрын
"Those who wish to command must first learn to obey" is from _The Art of War_ by Frederick the Great
@hairytentacle3924
@hairytentacle3924 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding Climate change: what does Cathedral supposed to do, historically? It would trade Indulgence papers. Donations to far left NGOs and carbon offsets are typical Indulgence papers.
@stevem815
@stevem815 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't carbon offsets be the obvious analogy?
@hairytentacle3924
@hairytentacle3924 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevem815 I didn't know how to formulate it in English. Yeah, it's carbon offsets.
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 жыл бұрын
@michaelmalice it would help those of us that listen without watching if you read the superchats that are being commented on.
@CloverPickingHarp
@CloverPickingHarp 4 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@pn5721
@pn5721 4 жыл бұрын
1:27:23 Moldbug names a number of individuals he likes to learn from even though some of them don't like him - Scott Lachlan (can't find him Googling), Greg Cochrane, Steve Zeller (" raising boys the Zeller way"?)
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
correctly spelled: scott locklin at locklin on science, greg cochran at west hunter, steve sailer at unz.com
@thebestboss4563
@thebestboss4563 4 жыл бұрын
MM, I❤U! I'm not a creeper, I swear. You hv opened my mind to so many diff ideas and people. That means the world to me. Thank you
@jupyyy8815
@jupyyy8815 4 жыл бұрын
Really excited to hear what Moldbug has to say about everything right now.
@S41NT93
@S41NT93 4 жыл бұрын
This is easily the best Come Hang yet
@oldbear6813
@oldbear6813 3 жыл бұрын
I waited all this time to watch this so that I could dedicate my complete attention... Not one minute in and I had to stop to check how much the hairstyles have changed in the past five months 😂😂😂😂
@christopherlee5380
@christopherlee5380 3 жыл бұрын
That tripod prequel terrified the shit outta me as a child.
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug is the Comic Book Guy of the dissident right.
@Alex-rr7qc
@Alex-rr7qc 4 жыл бұрын
>dissident Literally everyone hates this word
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-rr7qc but why?
@Alex-rr7qc
@Alex-rr7qc 4 жыл бұрын
@@easternwind4435 Curtis addressed that numerous times in his works
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-rr7qc really? I read his gentle introduction, can't think of such discussion. Is there a particular piece you remember?
@Alex-rr7qc
@Alex-rr7qc 4 жыл бұрын
@@easternwind4435 i think it was in "clear pill"
@shenlonggohan
@shenlonggohan 4 жыл бұрын
If it's truly uncontroversial science, co2 increases lead to increased temperatures, why were so many temperature records set in the 1910s, 1920s, and 1930s? At a time of less human carbon. Even with the "adjusted" data, the 1960s and 1970s were still cooler than those preceeding decades. How can this be possible with ever increasing amounts of co2 emissions?
@mac94312
@mac94312 4 жыл бұрын
and why has the warming stopped?
@ciceroaurelius3757
@ciceroaurelius3757 3 жыл бұрын
Don't ask questions fear and obey....SCIENCE VAULT!!
@swatisquantum
@swatisquantum 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t really know what’s going on. 1) plants need co2 2) climate is always changing. Nothing is fixed.
@shenlonggohan
@shenlonggohan 3 жыл бұрын
@@swatisquantum You don’t really know what’s going on. 1) humans need oxygen 2) the planet spins. It doesn't stop.
@sgeorge3167
@sgeorge3167 4 жыл бұрын
Eumeswil from Ernst Junger lays out his philosophy of the anarch not the anarchist. Something that Malice might want to explore...So many nuggets of wisdom in this book that apply to today....It's not too easy a read though. HIs book Storm of Steel is one of the best WW 1 books ever written...
@OblateSpheroid
@OblateSpheroid 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work.
@Vodka2389
@Vodka2389 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug's pronunciation of Yeshiva is actually closer to the Hebrew pronunciation
@CloverPickingHarp
@CloverPickingHarp 4 жыл бұрын
This would be GREAT as a weekly hangout
@nayaleezy
@nayaleezy 3 жыл бұрын
new fan, i ❤️ how downy the thumbnail is
@renaissancestatesman
@renaissancestatesman 4 жыл бұрын
After watching you talk to Lex about this guy. So coming to check it out.
@MrHappy702
@MrHappy702 4 жыл бұрын
Where is index time stamp guy at? I'm use to having all the links lol
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 жыл бұрын
Time. Time is all he needs.
@m3rbs
@m3rbs 4 жыл бұрын
@@zerokev6691 it’s only a matter of, time
@zwatwashdc
@zwatwashdc 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad the audio quality sucks and goldbug is self sabotaging.
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 жыл бұрын
Malice couldn't help his eye twitching when Moldbug said "Clear Pill"
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't either BTW. The term is cringe
@AJ-HawksToxicFinger
@AJ-HawksToxicFinger 4 жыл бұрын
@eternal boundlessness I agree people already take enough pills as it is...
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikael Johnsen Most internet slang is cringe AF
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikael Johnsen I used the term specifically because he was actively work to hold back the muscles in his neck and face from cringing.
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikael Johnsen “low-brow” is an older alternative I guess
@jonathanvian2607
@jonathanvian2607 4 жыл бұрын
"Curtis! Get it together"!😆😅🤣😂😏🦒☻
@FarazJr
@FarazJr 4 жыл бұрын
Who is the writer Moldbug mentions at 1:27:48? I can’t figure out the last name
@bctoy2779
@bctoy2779 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Sailer
@Varlwyll
@Varlwyll 4 жыл бұрын
How long does it take Moldbug to start talking about WW2?
@strickdaddy3912
@strickdaddy3912 Жыл бұрын
"um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um" - Curtis Yarvin, on climate change, 2020.
@libertinax
@libertinax 4 жыл бұрын
The Last Psychiatrist YES!
@Orville9999
@Orville9999 4 ай бұрын
I am so butthurt he never came to substack. At least we got that book he was promising.
@doctorbritain9632
@doctorbritain9632 3 жыл бұрын
An American reading E Nesbit, Mr Malice never ceases to surprise me.
@TheSLMTube
@TheSLMTube 4 жыл бұрын
The most frequent ads I've ever seen on a KZbin video (why do they even make this setting possible? It's unbearable.) PLUS in video advertisements. NICE
@tteot1wph
@tteot1wph 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a new YT strategy to disincentivize views
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 жыл бұрын
why don't you guys use adblock ? There's even a mobile app called tubemate which is basically yt whithout adds...
@city_of_coompton6832
@city_of_coompton6832 4 жыл бұрын
use brave browser dumbass
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChideNorms I think they changed that recently
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 4 жыл бұрын
@@city_of_coompton6832 Yeah joke's on people not using Brave
@jofohollywood
@jofohollywood 4 ай бұрын
Everything is always 3 years ago
@ultraderek
@ultraderek 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve been wanting to automate folding clothes but that kind of automation won’t happen at least not while I’m alive.
@RandomUserName92840
@RandomUserName92840 4 жыл бұрын
Didnt even know these were a thing. Should add to the podcast feed
@dartharpy9404
@dartharpy9404 2 жыл бұрын
love you both
@MoonshineNL
@MoonshineNL 4 жыл бұрын
Baboons with rocket launchers getting the Distributist talking with Yarvin.
@christophercotter166
@christophercotter166 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Malice , I can't stop listening to Curtis and you ,and I am 5 degrees below the intelligence of both.ty
@michaelhunter1911
@michaelhunter1911 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is bright
@Cocoa1million
@Cocoa1million 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug Fridman when?
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 жыл бұрын
Fridman has to reach out to him and he thinks he's crazy, he talked with George Hotz about having him on.
@lancegrandis6230
@lancegrandis6230 4 жыл бұрын
Lex would just ask him whether love can "win" or something similar anyways...
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@lancegrandis6230 lex is an idealist but at least he asks more difficult questions than Dave Rubin
@clivemathieu9386
@clivemathieu9386 4 жыл бұрын
Lex isn’t ready
@Joshua-gu5nj
@Joshua-gu5nj 4 жыл бұрын
New mic sounds great! Wahoo!
@alisonbevege7171
@alisonbevege7171 2 жыл бұрын
Wow can’t believe Moldbug and Malice both know the John Christopher books!
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 3 жыл бұрын
I hope next time Moldbug gets a proper microphone.
@drewmc268
@drewmc268 4 жыл бұрын
whats the name of the first poet Mulbug mentioned at 39:20
@jdmustard2557
@jdmustard2557 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Lowell, WH Auden, Charles Bukowski
@drewmc268
@drewmc268 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdmustard2557 thanks
@samk6170
@samk6170 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks my dude. I was about to ask the same question.
@Simon_Alexnder
@Simon_Alexnder 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew Kianu Reevs was so politically savvy...
@hardyje1915
@hardyje1915 Жыл бұрын
It's unism yt channel, not unist 17:03
@zachblackledge1800
@zachblackledge1800 3 жыл бұрын
He’s exactly right on the kids at school and politics situation.
@thealienauthor3437
@thealienauthor3437 4 жыл бұрын
Malice, please think about having Styxhexenhammer666 on one of your shows!
@thealienauthor3437
@thealienauthor3437 4 жыл бұрын
Please!!!
@itsv1p3r
@itsv1p3r 4 жыл бұрын
bro roasted the absolute shit out of sheath underwear wearers lmfao
@DaniloCarretta
@DaniloCarretta 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug remind me Gaius Baltar (James Callis) from Battlestar Galactica
@mrenovatio3739
@mrenovatio3739 4 жыл бұрын
59:12 ... Every mere coincidence is now proof of a simulation... So the idea that we "live in simulation" has gone from an interesting lens on modernity, to a coping mechanism for those to afraid to reckon with reality, to just a word to replace "conindence"... Pretty interesting... giggles, covers mouth and says "Jinx"!
@nicholasfevelo3041
@nicholasfevelo3041 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever read Jean Baudrillard? Simulations is a good short read.
@mrenovatio3739
@mrenovatio3739 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasfevelo3041 I haven't read his books, but I have read stuff that references it. I really ought to read it. Thanks
@nicholasfevelo3041
@nicholasfevelo3041 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrenovatio3739you are welcome. its not as dense as other Post-Modernists that intentionally troll their readers
@H0mertax
@H0mertax 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone find the "unist" channel in the comment at 17:00? I couldn't locate it in a search but it sounded good. From Malin Keisner
@jonfungg
@jonfungg 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info
@H0mertax
@H0mertax 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonfungg much obliged!!
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 жыл бұрын
He’s a great guy
@labrynianrebel
@labrynianrebel 4 жыл бұрын
I like his weird visuals he gives audiobooks
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 4 жыл бұрын
It was the Windows ‘95 aesthetic that won me over.
@ClockwerkIndustries
@ClockwerkIndustries 4 жыл бұрын
New mic is 10000x better!
@thegreathadoken6808
@thegreathadoken6808 2 жыл бұрын
"Michael and Mencius sittin' in a tree..."
@m3rbs
@m3rbs 4 жыл бұрын
Do more grifting, Curtis.
@kinvert
@kinvert 4 жыл бұрын
I'm dumb and bad at Google. They keep talking about Cathedral. What is that?
@mtsiggy
@mtsiggy 4 жыл бұрын
It’s Moldbug’s own coinage for the intelligentsia/ the commentariat. The narrative forming forces who determine the official story. Similar to Weinstein’s G.I.N. The elite political economic class that manufactures consent. I’m sure Curtis has lots of writing about it somewhere :)
@kinvert
@kinvert 4 жыл бұрын
OK that makes sense. Thank you.
@555Trout
@555Trout 4 жыл бұрын
I'd add to help you understand that the Cathedral consists of the media, "education", government bueacracy. And the Cathedral is actually where power lies. Not the government. And unfortunately it's a very uniform ideology. Conservative ideology really only offers a minor deterance and Yarven sees the Cathedral as unbeatable. The Cathedral is "progressive". Which has Christian dissident origins . Basically we live under a theocracy, where progressive ideology rules. The end game is collapse per Yarvin. And then hopefully a reset. "Democracy" is incompatible with liberty for a variety of unavoidable reasons. So Curtis sees "monarchy" , a special case of monarchy, as being able to give "ordered liberty", which is the only type of true liberty. So there is an illusion of governmental power, but in reality the Cathedral runs things . It's particularly vivid right now because Trump resists the Cathedral. And so you see the media blatantly biased and creating narrative. And certainly the "election" looks very suspicious . It's a compelling argument. A lot if it fits what we see. He's definitely worth reading . Imagine 50(states) different Monarchies with free travel between competing for citizens. Citizens as customers. Anyway, hope that helps
@kinvert
@kinvert 4 жыл бұрын
@@555Trout Is there a particular book of his that goes over this in detail? This concept certainly resonates with me. A lot of people can't seem to make sense of the world, because they don't look at the world through a lens that really aligns with what you just said. Though I feel sick, I knew the best shot at freedom in my lifetime is a Biden win based directly on mail in ballots which the right won't trust. Chaotic Neutral etc. The status quo won't let us be free. The status quo hated Trump but he couldn't or wouldn't beat them.
@555Trout
@555Trout 4 жыл бұрын
@@kinvert Here you go: www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives/ Seems Grey Mirror , Yarvin's new site is down for some reason, but: graymirror.substack.com/ Your intuitions indicate you'll find Yarvin fascinating. Cheers
@matthewsnyder674
@matthewsnyder674 4 жыл бұрын
really wish this was a regular series like the your welcomes with very failed comedian dave smith
@goldfishy
@goldfishy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I’d pay to listen to these two talk every week.
@Jivansings
@Jivansings 3 жыл бұрын
I was at the club that night and hung out with alig, but a guy named Andrew crispo picked me up and took me to a leather party in Chelsea. I was about to go home with him when the host pulled me aside and said “don’t do this, do you know who that Is ?! That guy murdered a German model / s/m gone wrong. Do not go home with him. I dodged many bullets In the NYC years
@ryanmason9824
@ryanmason9824 4 жыл бұрын
1:07:50 “Power precedes culture” does it? Aren’t there tons of examples throughout history of an idea being born on the fringes, making it mainstream, gathering momentum, and then becoming codified in law? Am I missing something here? Sounds like Moldbug & Thaddeus Russell need to sort this one out if they actually are saying opposite things
@zachariedube1796
@zachariedube1796 3 жыл бұрын
I think this makes sense if you see it has: it doesnt become culture until people with power embrace the said idea, if they dont, it will be forgotten
@swatisquantum
@swatisquantum 3 жыл бұрын
Need an example. Hard to tell without at least 3-5 examples.
@gt0sold1er
@gt0sold1er 4 жыл бұрын
What's this about Upton Sinclair being a hack? Where to read up on this?
@mysteryman6918
@mysteryman6918 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, he was a high-society socialist who wrote the Jungle to prepare the country for a socialist transfer of power. He was infuriated when people only remembered the first two thirds of his book and used it for reform rather than revolution. Not sure if there’s more to it than that
@nietzscheanmiddleman9832
@nietzscheanmiddleman9832 3 жыл бұрын
I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals BUT THEY STARTED IT .
@rodentproblem8723
@rodentproblem8723 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the audio books?
@ThePoliticrat
@ThePoliticrat 4 жыл бұрын
1:38 It was Tom Woods
@joshwells4280
@joshwells4280 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever noticed that Moldbug with a shaved head looks very similar to a young Klaus Schwab?
@davejoe75
@davejoe75 4 жыл бұрын
Any help out here with understanding how "power precedes culture"? I've heard of culture dictating future political campaigns, but I don't think this guy is saying the same thing.
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 4 жыл бұрын
I mean chimps use power without having cultures, add a few million years of evolution to that primitive state and you get culture.
@lightdampsweetenough2065
@lightdampsweetenough2065 4 жыл бұрын
The question is wrong from the get go. Power has to swim in a culture and without a culture you are barely talking about humans. You can ofc butcher people but your power is predicated on there being someone alive to dominate. It's not true to say that politics is downstream from culture in a straight line either
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
An example would be the power of the Union determining the culture of the ex-Confederacy. This does beg the question of the source of the Union's culture and why that culture evolved over time without the intervention of military defeat. Some of that evolution is forced by developments in science (eg Darwin) and technology. But, those are subject to interpretation. The Cathedral plays interpreter, its interpretations following the preferences of those in power.
@andyc8215
@andyc8215 3 жыл бұрын
Theyre trying to figure out dress code laws of the Tudor's; i'm trying to figure out why Hasbro's clue is in your window
@viktorsebastien604
@viktorsebastien604 4 жыл бұрын
Audio better, michael!
@Braylon18
@Braylon18 4 жыл бұрын
Is this available on a podcast app???
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Malice and Mencius Moldbug! MMMM!
@jonaskoelker
@jonaskoelker 3 жыл бұрын
> Canadian Greg asks: which states moved to the right, economically and/or culturally, after switching from a non-democratic system to a democratic one (in either rhetoric or substance), over a few generations? > MM and MM: nope I don't know that we're "a few generations" in yet, but I my first suggestion would be to look at the fall of communism at the end of the cold war. I don't think one can deny that East Germany moved to the right, economically, throughout 1990. Cthulhu may have been swimming left, but only after a massive jerk to the right. Has it caught up with the status quo ante? Also, is this a proof, refutation or thesis-antithesis-synthesis-zigzag of Moldbug's point?
@lanvywynn
@lanvywynn 4 жыл бұрын
37:27 I love how the blue-blood white dude tried to correct the Russian Jew the correct pronunciation of yeshiva
@bootstompify
@bootstompify 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't they both Jewish?
@daveqr
@daveqr 4 жыл бұрын
@@bootstompify Yes
@jofohollywood
@jofohollywood 4 ай бұрын
Did Curtis literally just take a bracing swig of whiskey at the start??
@buzzcagney8957
@buzzcagney8957 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone suggest where I can read yarwins works or where should I start?
@williamsmithington3157
@williamsmithington3157 3 жыл бұрын
Unqualified reservations. The entire collection of blogs is easily found online.
@jimc.goodfellas
@jimc.goodfellas 4 жыл бұрын
Moldbug talking about Sheath underwear-
@MissSunny1966
@MissSunny1966 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you look like Ted Cruz and Johnny Cash had a baby ☺
@ryanoreilly7015
@ryanoreilly7015 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Kiedis and Keanu Reeves
@mopedman1
@mopedman1 4 жыл бұрын
China couldn't dump its bonds because the US holds more Chinese debt than China does US debt. It's a common fallacy but the rest of this was great. Good talk.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Can't dump b/c before they unloaded much the price of the bonds would crash.
@mopedman1
@mopedman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@kreek22 why? If threat of mutually assured destruction is there why would they do it? China's economy and society is far more fragile than the US. Explain yourself.
@AngelWest58
@AngelWest58 3 жыл бұрын
1:13:17 - CY channeling George C. Scott
@dancingisraelis6544
@dancingisraelis6544 4 жыл бұрын
Mencious Moldbug 100% needs a Simpson's character version
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