Come On, Something Stinks Here, Right?

Product placement and the bbc is a touchy subject it seems, as I recently asked them about, the answers don’t really match up to the reality
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[@waynekerrr9027]

They've put up the licence fee, to try and recoup some of the lost earnings, from thousands of people who are not paying anymore 😂😂😂

[@bazsnell3178]

I'm very happy to include myself amongst them, thanks to ChilliJonCarne.

[@stefosters]

Me too

[@alan6056]

Court payout compensation,

[@crapmalls]

Let the death spiral roll

[@Number6_]

No wayne, it is up because they can, now that the price freeze has been lifted. No real need.

[@briangibson8009]

I remember a couple of years ago noticing nearly all BBC presenters appearing in outside broadcasts during the winter months wearing Berghaus coats ( not cheap) with added BBC logos attached. I contacted the BBC to ask if these coats were funded by the licence fee and was told BBC staff have to pay for and provide their own coats. What a load of bull

[@bazsnell3178]

Same with the 'North Face' winter coats worn by outdoor reporters, at upwards of £600 apiece.

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

If it has the BBC Logo, that makes it “a uniform” for tax purposes. It’s a tax dodge.

[@jonsnow6741]

rab these days

[@stevemayandleilaroehead870]

I noticed the North face coats too, didn't think about it until I watched this! :)

[@englishciderlover7347]

The Daily Mirror isn't a proper paper, either, Jon.

[@hughneek12]

No the Daily Mirror is not a proper paper, it's what I would call a PLOPPER PAPER - it's for cutting into small squares and hanging on a nail in the outside lavvy, one of those papers.😅

[@malcolmcrick4071]

Obviously getting money from the listed product producers, The BBC is crooked. cancel your licence now

[@MrMaxeemum]

I've always been disgruntled at the BBC giving away their services to the world (World Services) and selling back to us DVD and VHS cassettes of programs we have already paid for at full price.

[@dwaynewrighton8547]

They don't give it away. They sell it overseas. Which technically, means, of yourba license fee payer, you count as an investor. Where is your return on investment? Where are your dividends? Why aren't the bbc ceo's being held to account for failing to carry out their fiduciary duties to the investors?

[@warpiglet4759]

someone should investigate but the way inquiries go in modern life I won't hold my breath.

[@lairdkilbarchan]

Some people might say the most invasive product placement in history has been the BBCs recent promotion on behalf of the pharmaceutical industry.

[@chamatsprayart2283]

Sending an unsolicited enforcement officer to someone's home, presuming guilt before innocence, for crimes they can't prove have been committed just sounds absolutely insane....

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

I remember from a few years ago when i watched I had the impression that North Face had a deal going on with them. Like they were issuing their anoraks to their reporters like ppe.

[@johnhill9014]

North Face jackets (with the logo clearly on view) worn by outdoor bbc news reporters. Countryfile is a classic case. Loving your vids Jon.

[@lesblack8996]

Loving the ‘loadsa money’ thumbnail 😃

[@suzieb8366]

Well done... Good point, well spotted and should be highlighted. Amazing what they do while trying to convince people their sh!te doesn't smell.

[@daddymulk]

Seems to be okay to advertise all the auction houses that belong to the bargain hunt brigade too

[@michaeld5888]

Few if any programs now on the antiques purely as an informative broadcast now. So much on the modern BBC is about the money to be made from whatever they are dealing with viewed purely as a commodity.

[@dave0smeg]

How can 2 pairs of branded headphones taking up the lower half of the screen by being in the foreground NOT be prominently placed? The BBC make their own rules and ensure others follow them while they continually break those same rules.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

they could have angled them to not show the logos so prominently

[@carlconner1166]

No need to pay itis that simple

[@DameEdna42]

Are the BBC committing any criminal offence?

[@Nbomber]

​@@DameEdna42yeah, look into the comic relief scandal. where they defrauded the nation multiple times for money to save starving kids, which they instead spent on themselves.

[@uniquefreak13]

​@@DameEdna42 They protected Jimmy Seville.... They use contractors and coercion to intimidate and the public into buying their product... They spread lies about certain vaccinations....

[@knottyinks1]

John, you’re one of the few bloggers that gets the thumbs up within the first minute..

[@stevea4771]

The BBC has advertised for years think about virtually every single chat show guest.....lovely to have you on the show...now I hear you have a new film book song play etc

[@englishciderlover7347]

I might be wrong, but back in the day, Michael Parkinson's guests didn't go on his show just to plug their new films/TV shows/records/books, although they did earn from being on the show.

[@keithfreeman7725]

They wouldn't appear without the plug .. the stars are generally contracted to turn up on shows and premieres.

[@pauly540]

BBC making 'Loads of money!' 🤑

[@matthewpayne2035]

It's going to be something completely innocent like somebody getting a back hander from a company or them owning shares in said company.

[@lesblack8996]

This reminded me of when I saw ‘Castaway’ at the cinema and practically every shot for the first 30m had a FedEx parcel, van, logo or some other FedEx reference. It was so bad me and my pal were actually giggling.

[@Phoenix2312]

Yes, but FedEx did pay to have their brand in the movie... Or rather the studio paid FedEx... And they were credited! The BBC were actually why programmes on TV in the UK have to now have a P logo before any show that has a prominent product placement... EastEnders fans noticed that FORD CARS, MARLBORO Cigarettes with their at the time very distinctive packaging and COKE were becoming more and more prominent in the episodes - The BBC tried to argue it was simply "Set Dressing" but a Government Inquiry decided that it was far too often and the items stayed in shot FAR TOO LONG for it to be just set dressing! Another show that the BBC had which featured what could be seen as "Product Placement" long before all the laws were tightened... LIFE WITHOUT GEORGE - Carol Royale is eating dinner with someone and can be seen drinking what is very clearly a can of Coke... This was teh 1980's The rules were looser and there was also a legitimate reason. In the dinner scene, Royale and Her Guest are having a meal, Carol Royale is a Vegetarian, So that had to be accounted for to start with (In the script hey were both having a Steak...) and Carol Royale is also Tee-Total... So she would not be seen with Wine in her hand... Was it prominent? Yes... Sort of... But it was NOT the focus of the scene even though t was clearly visible, Under the current regulations - This would be allowed! Though it is skirting the line! Mainly as NO ONE has actually decided what makes a "Prominent Placement"... Yeah, The laws are a bit of a mess... Its like how when BLUE PETER used to air, they could not say SELLOTAPE as its a Brand Name... They had to say STICKY BACK PLASTIC... But even now, We dont say "Scotch Tape"... We all say "Pass the Sellotape" - It does not matter what Brand it is... We all say PASS THE SELLOTAPE! Just if you go to Australia, Dont ask for JIFFY... You wont get a Contraceptive if you do... (It's famous brand of Sellotape!)

[@lesblack8996]

@@Phoenix2312 Paid or not, it was pathetically obvious and quite irritating

[@garulusglandarius6126]

Surely the denial of a freedom of information request is illegal!? Your correctly placed observations are called subliminal advertising and it’s been proven to be so effective that it was at some point banned ( maybe still is, I’m not sure ) Keep at it John , trust your instincts, you’re doing an excellent job 👍👍

[@englishciderlover7347]

The 'art, literature and journalism' clause gives the BBC carte blanche to withhold any info they don't want to reach the public domain. The loophole needs to be closed ASAP.

[@markrainford1219]

I seem to recall the subliminal advertising that inserted just single frames was banned. Your brain would register it, but your consciousness would not.

[@mykelevangelista6492]

You have the freedom to request whatever you like, but the BBC, it seems, has the freedom to refuse to answer any such requests.

[@awhisperinthewind4253]

@@mykelevangelista6492 not just them

[@vitallink4830]

They used to do that at the cinema mostly. It would flash so fast your eyes didn't see it. Then you'd get this feeling you'd want a drink/popcorn, etc.

[@olliebeak131]

In older sitcoms, all packaging with logos, etc had brown parcel tape covering the manufacturer's name. Sometimes it was so obvious what the product was. I suppose for the sake of 'realism' these days, they can get away with not covering up any brand name. In the example you showed, if Del Boy had said "I'll have some Kelloggs cornflakes for breakfast", then that would be clear breach of guidelines...

[@littlemisscareful]

He showed Del Boy saying "Get him the Daily Mirror" or words to that effect

[@maicoxmauler2825]

Not one, but two pairs of headphones, both with the logo visible The one with the logo the right way up just happens to be catching a fat highlight directly above it to draw your attention to it They could have just focused on the guy in the background and the logos would be illegibly blurred Cameraman went out of his way to set this up. Probably had to move the headphones to get the shot Nah man this is sus

[@smfvmd]

I have the box set of One Foot in the Grave and the advertising in that is off the scale. Not product placing but verbal references.

[@ravengaming2597]

Loving your vids. Keep on being a thorn in the side of the BBC. If it wasn't for my love of live football, I'd have got rid of my licence too. Hopefully they'll go bust within the next 5 years.

[@juliawigger9796]

There might be hope ahead, I think the Premier league has just done a deal with Sky.

[@iamrocketray]

@@juliawigger9796 BUT Sky footie is broadcast live, so if you watch it without a TV license you are breaking the law.

[@vanessawilkie6887]

Remember years ago watching Neighbours when first shown here. There was product placement and noticed it immediately as it looked so odd. Seems we have just become inured to it.

[@lulabellegnostic8402]

A few years ago i wrote to them asking how much it had cost to send a presenter plus team to Australia & NZ to make a film about farming issues down under that have no relevance whatsoever to the UK. It was obviously a nice holiday for the presenter. They refused to tell me how much it cost because it ‘ was confidential info that would advantage their competitors if released’ 🤔😳

[@Andy2090]

I would love to see proof of if payment was made for those product placements. It should be made completely transparent.

[@dogred431]

Peckham Echo got bought out by Mirror group and suffered the fate of many local papers 😂

[@ChilliJonCarne]

lol well played

[@englishciderlover7347]

Does that mean the Peckham Echo employees' pension scheme got screwed over?

[@captainhurricane5705]

Can anyone read in Peckham?

[@baldrick574]

I think that is obvious. You are getting right up their nose. Keep in up!

[@westielovinlassy4895]

You have to remember that the BBC comprises of both a limited and private company. A limited company is not obliged to comply with GPD requests.

[@bigbobt45]

I have seen Berghaus and Musto jackets being worn by BBC weather reporters with the logo prominent on the jackets.

[@asumazilla]

Maybe the logos are covered up unless there is an under the table payment.

[@user-gb1tc6ws8n]

I want to know how to go about the goons nocking on my door iam geting f,off with it

[@brianlopez8855]

I bet they have a dart board in the canteen with your MuGshot on it Chills !

[@ChilliJonCarne]

I'd love that

[@rich8761]

now then now then, how's about that then

[@jimmycampbell78]

Danke Sennheiser, nice little earner

[@TheSd1cko]

One foot in the grave was a BBC production and there were loads of name dropping for brands in that. I rewarched it recently and was very surprised.

[@HA05GER]

Absolutely love one foot in the grave.

[@TheSd1cko]

@HA05GER brilliant isn't it 😀

[@HA05GER]

​@@TheSd1ckoyup Im currently watching it on iPlayer after reading this 😂 don't tell anyone 🤫

[@queenberengaria9626]

Got the full dvd collection of ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE that I pick up & watch for a few episodes every now & again, great fun, will be checking out all the product placements in future!

[@paulclark1953]

Brilliant Jon again you shut the BBC down ..out of date tv..I wouldn't watch it if it was free there programs are rubbish

[@rogertudor]

Do a FOI on the daily Mirror to see if they are paying BBC for Advertisement

[@graemestansfield6170]

Freedom of information act . You have a right to know and tell the public BBC.

[@globaleye8]

The BBC is in its death throes - so happy Christmas everyone 🤣

[@Terry.W]

Perhaps if the BBC took product placements they could abolish the license fee..

[@englishciderlover7347]

@@neilgoodyer9606 If the BBC didn't have so many unnecessary employees, they wouldn't need such a high TV tax in the first place. All those managers and pen-pushers have some tasty salaries and pensions.

[@malcolmhenderson3866]

It's the same on Antiques Road Trip. They say something like 'Today we're in Brighton at John Smith's Antique shop' and show a lingering shot sign above the door. If that's not a commercial I don't know what is.

[@homahak]

Thanks for shining light on a fresh facet of this public organisation.

[@grahamlees4394]

As I now reside in France (15 years+) I no longer watch UK TV. The way the French TV companies seem to handle "product placement" in live streams is to reverse the camera image so that shop names and logos for example are shown mirrored - not the correct way round. If the viewer wishes to "decode" the image - that is a matter for them, their choice entirely. I have no issue with that but, after all said and done, that's why I choose to live in a grown up country like France 😉

[@IFTIINKAIIMANKA]

Thanks 👍 finally I cancel my TV licence, I don't needed. Last five years I paying what I don't need

[@karenpringle7794]

In my books that's advertising, I noticed the first thing in there reply was,"we do not receive any money", the headphone's were an advertisement, it seems they get the best of both worlds. 👍

[@NIDroneScene]

Time the fee went, Canceled mine online back in June with about 7 months left on license, Im still waiting on a refund, also I had a pre payment plan setup for next years License £100+ in credit and they also havent sent refund, WHY BOTHER TELLING THEM I DON'T NEED YOUR SERVICE!

[@chrisblay]

Subliminal messaging of product names.

[@steveone9375]

They are all bent for sure

[@tobycolin6271]

Last week red bull was featured 4 times on Newsround a canoeist abd a wakeboarder featured in the weekly bulletin and both where shown on the Friday review of the week. Red bull could not have bought better advertising as news round is viewed in nearly every school in the country. Kids see red bull sponsoring association with extreme sports.

[@waynestockton8953]

Only fools and horses is one big product advert

[@englishciderlover7347]

One episode showed the Trotters at the supermarket, which was a phantom name. They could have used that phantom company's products and carrier bags in the Trotters' home.

[@stevensimpson2625]

BBC has got to change to subscription only ,if you want it you will pay for it? Your doing good job 👍

[@davidjoy7654]

Labour paper the Mirror and the Beeb lean left.

[@nonoyorbusness]

Stalking the bbc, Jeremy Vine will weep in court and get you 🔒 !

[@laceandwhisky]

I can imagine " we dont receive any funds for product placement but out canteens have pallets of goods from these companies. Help yerself

[@DavidFrankland]

I seem to remember the back panel of synthesizers being covered in black gaffer tape on Top Of The Pops back in the day, as the manufacturers logo was usually there. Chances are it was going to be Roland or YAMAHA anyway... I remember when A-ha got to #1 with Take on Me and they only covered the "YAM" bit. Thought that was clever.

[@tonesoft1956]

Good point to note if TVL take you to court 😁

[@noelward8047]

I wonder where the cheques for such product placement is cashed !?!

[@WhiteDieselShed]

Cheques are shredded along with all sponsorship payments... Cash only in a brown Inland Revenue envelope to be left behind the left most bin.

[@siashradbourne1912]

Maybe their sale's were already falling back then and cash in hand is a slim possibility oh so slim.

[@welshraven4136]

Hi @chilliJonCarne Found your channel after deciding it was time to stop my license. I found you videos very informative as well as entertaining. I've now cancelled my license just over a week ago and now after watching you videos, I'm confident when the knock will come to my door i will handle it just like you say "shut the door on them". I would like to ask, I still have my sky satellite on the wall even though its not connected to the box which I've got rid of. When they see the dish on the wall will that be sufficient evidence for them to get a warrant? Should I just cut wires or take it down?

[@KingstonHomeMaintenance]

Just turn the dish.

[@sweetgem2006]

The Royle Family had loads going on even showing alcohol brands as well as 200 Benson and Hedges, as well as them going on about Sky and Sky HD, and there was even an episode going on about a Dyson and the camera pans in on it when she's hoovering...Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps has loads of product placement in the way of alcohol and food as well

[@darrengallagher4385]

Wonder if the harassment tactics will change on their letters if they're getting desperate to recoup lost profits 🤔 well.... they're still not getting a penny and quite certain millions will do the same 👌

[@simondalgarno1528]

Older Eastenders used to have HMV adverts saying Top dog in Walford on them.

[@Jkk55]

Hi, Jon I agree with you, and at the end of the day they know what they are doing it's all bloody GREED! And to add insult to injury they put up the license fee!

[@iansmith3599]

There was a scene in EastEnders where a TV monitor was showing the product manufacturer. The manufacturer? ' El Ge' ! Coincidence?

[@karlofandango6108]

In Shooting Stars (showing my age a bit here) the Angelos Epithemu guy always came on with a Sainsbury's bag, and had a song each week about whats in your bag Angelos.

[@michaeld5888]

I see the notice shown at 8:25 said the BBC it does not itself receive payments, but as we saw with Saville it is by far the ultimate master of keeping a very blind eye to any degree of dodgy goings on with the people it employs.

[@uglyboy4067]

They are clearly getting advertising revenue from these companies. If that is so, then the amount they get should be deducted from the money they get from the government. OR, just stop funding them, and let the advertisers fund them.

[@johnwhyte1488]

Please see . . . Section 14: Independence from External Interests - Guidelines! All the best to you and yours. 👍👍👍

[@carldefoe4673]

I dont pay for it, I dont watch it. Simples.

[@tonesoft1956]

The BBC are quick to point out YOU NEED A TVL for watching live broadcast But they break there own rules on Advertising They should be FINED for advertising Products as we have already payed for this program through TVL

[@stephenholmes1036]

Because you tell the truth

[@nikkibaxter5550]

The question is why don't they go commercial?

[@englishciderlover7347]

They know or assume that the income from advertising wouldn't be as high as the money they make now. They don't have much confidence in their product, do they?

[@VintageForYou]

I have noticed the past few years they have been advertising their own programs is this right to be able to do this.

[@andymarsh22]

Any kitchen scenes in Mrs Browns Boys has Brennans bread when Brennans is a brand in Ireland

[@misterheavy2296]

Back in the early 'sixties when I was a kid, I was unfortunately exposed to (and hated) Coronation Street which was then very new and my mother watched it religiously. It's not BBC, of course. I was amused to see all the kitchen or dining room scenes featuring packets of food or cleaning products all with the product name blotted out with gummed tape. I no longer watch TV. My wife watching endless soap operas cured me of that completely, but I did notice that this product obliteration stopped after a while. I have no idea what the current practice might be.

[@gordonlawrence1448]

If an organisation does not comply with a subject access request and does not give a reasonable answer as to why (as defined by law), then the Information Commissioners Office will take up the case and most often finds in favour of the person asking for the information. However you need to preface correspondence with "N.B. THIS IS A SUBJECT ACCESS REQUEST". You need to use this exact wording before the "Dear xxx". Also it does need to be in capitals. Without it they can claim they did not realise it was a SAR.

[@garyseaman6105]

When BBC finally lose the licence, No one is going to pay for the tripe they put out. So hopefully they will fold quickly and be nothing more than a bad memory.

[@hollow34]

I don't think the rules were as strict back then and back handers were definitely more common place. Its great you're highlighting it though.

[@markymarkinthehouse]

THE BBC NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ??? NA NEVER LOL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LivingALife4Me]

Totally agree with your points. Drives me made the double standards

[@user-rp4cw9jn3k]

Obviously, Jon you've been a naughty boy, go to the top of the class.

[@Disc.]

Quick question: How do they get on with the advertisement in sports? For example, football, on the players kit and around the pitch??? Is that how they pay to broadcast the events???

[@farscape3100]

one rule for us no rules for them carry on being a thorn in there sides 👍👍

[@kevinthegerbil2708]

Mugged off, all the licence payers.

[@mickman0073]

The BBC won't have enough viewers to product place a packet of crisps soon, 😅" According to data compiled by SEO consultants, SEOtagg, searches for the term "cancel TV licence" multiplied by 10 times last week compared to the same period last year.".

[@frankbrodie5168]

The Sennheiser HD 480 (which from a casual glance they look a lot like in your clip) are EXCELLENT headphones. My personal favourites out of every pair of phones I've ever owned. There's my product endorsement. To go with the placement by the BBC. lol

[@DavidFrankland]

yup, they look exactly like mine 🙂

[@thisissparta3965]

Only Fools and Horses is one of if not the best T.V. program ever. Having said that and as I have been licence free for donkeys years I now find the best things to watch on a screen are vlogs like this highlighting the fact that we the public get shafted every which way from corporate, council and government institutions on an all too regular basis. Keep sticking it to them. The wool may still be pulled over most people's eyes. That's why it is so important you keep doing what you are doing. Every day more and more people get the opportunity to peek beyond the wool and get a glimpse of the bull🤬 for what it is.

[@nikkibaxter5550]

What about forcing their apps onto people who don't want it.?

[@antoniopalmero4063]

Cheers John .

[@martinnevey7258]

Love still game on the bbc they mentioned greggs pies and steak bakes by name many times ?

[@mikeb3010]

Part of the bbc product placements ‘principles’: Under no circumstances may a product be featured in sound or vision in return for cash, services or any valuable consideration in kind. Such an arrangement would constitute product placement and is not permissible for licence fee funded services. We must not accept free or reduced cost products or services in return for on-air or online credits, links or off-air marketing.

[@jefblogs3279]

If they do not apply, they are in breach. get them sorted.

[@gwheregwhizz]

Ronnie Corbett must have worn Lyle & Scott jumpers on the Two Ronnies for 20 years.

[@daddymulk]

Are they a well known brand then? I'd never heard of em till last week when i wore some lyle and scott trainers i got free😂 thought they were some supermarket special

[@englishciderlover7347]

I'm surprised he didn't bring his golf bag, with the manufacturer's logo showing, for his armchair routines.

[@gwheregwhizz]

Jimmy Tarbuck was the same with Pringle 😊

[@a.j.b.8658]

Im glad you're calling the BBC out Chilli ❤ What about Dave and UKGold? Don't they own these commercial channels too?

[@DnBclassictunes]

Looking at Google search about this. The BBC have been at it for years. Lord Sugar even calls them out in 2013. I'm certain on Eastenders the National Lottery was always shown in clips on the show quite often.

[@katiperry8533]

might be worth an foi to the product companies (instead of the bbc) ?

[@englishciderlover7347]

They'll probably keep schtum as well.

[@D7sdomain]

FOI only applies to public bodies.

[@englishciderlover7347]

@@D7sdomainPublic bodies should not be allowed to hide anything from the people whose taxes pay for everything.

[@D7sdomain]

@@englishciderlover7347 I agree, but the whole FOI system is corrupt, just like the government that created it.

[@andrewspeers4018]

Not getting a penny of me go online and cancel its the best thing I ever did

[@christinegillard6008]

My name is crime & crime don’t pay 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤪

[@matthewtalbot-paine7977]

So what's the recourse if the government setup rules and then breaks those rules? Report them to the government? Take them to court i.e. a different area of government? You have no recourse except to stop paying them.

[@grannytakesatrip1128]

It's called product placement. Where companies with recognised brands can pay to have their products "placed" in a shot for the viewer to see. It is now common practice in the TV industry especially in the commercial sector. However, I don't know the rules regarding product placement in any British Biased Corporation programmes. You need to send an FOI for that information.

[@barneyrubble9309]

Ask them how much they make by selling programmes around the world that we paid to produce...do we get any dividends as share holders???