Comedian Pulls A Fast One On Hypocritical Pastor

Republican gubernatorial candidate for Michigan Ralph Rebandt was caught off guard by comedian Jason Selvig when he was pressed about wanting the Bible to be a “basic textbook in schools”. Once Selvig got Rebandt to agree that books featuring pornographic imagery should be banned in schools, Selvig pulled a fast one and mentioned that the Bible also features plenty of pornographic content. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. Watch LIVE weekdays 6-8 pm ET. kzbin.infolive
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"Ralph Rebandt, a Republican candidate for Michigan governor, says he wants the Bible to “be the basic textbook in schools.” It’s a position he came to regret in a recent interview with comedian Jason Selvig.
Selvig, part of the conservative-skewering comedy duo The Good Liars, got Rebandt to agree to ban books from schools that have porn pornographic imagery in them. Selvig then pointed out that the Bible has a story about two daughters who get their dad drunk and have sex with them - it’s in the Book of Genesis, chapter 9, verses 30 to 37.
This is where the interview went hilariously south for the Republican.
“You’re saying banned the Bible in school?” Selvig asked Rebandt.
“No, I’m not saying ban the Bible in school,” Rebandt replied.
“You’re saying anything that has a pornographic image should be banned,” Selvig reminded him.
“And there are some images in the Bible about, you know, sex and incest and things like that. So it sounds like you’re saying we should ban the Bible.”
Rebandt answered, “What I am saying is that the Judeo Christian principles on which our country was founded need to be brought back into culture. And I can’t say it any more clearly than that.”"
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[@thomaslarson459]

Never trust a pastor who tells you how to vote. And never trust a politician who tells you what to believe.

[@Gary-yt8ee]

Well said

[@williamplatt1641]

I read this on a T-shirt..." If money is the root of all evil, why do the churches keep asking for it?!

[@mischarowe]

I don't trust either.

[@Raven.flight]

@@williamplatt1641 well, in fairness to the bible, the actual quote is: “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.” So, it’s not money per se, but the LOVE of money. Even as an atheist I can see that not all churches are money grubbing dens on iniquity. Then again, some are (I’m talking to you Joel Osteen).

[@kirklarson4536]

@@williamplatt1641 I saw a meme saying, "Why is it the church asks for money to solve THEIR problems, but they recommend prayer to solve YOURS?"

[@susancrawford2343]

THIS is how journalists should speak to the person they're interviewing - ask the hard questions, instead of letting them mouth off without consequence.

[@rohankurian5641]

The depths of Lack of leadership in the #GOP is scary!! Imagine the damage of getting 4 more years of the traitor #trumps 🙈

[@pjo2386]

you prefer the kids to be brainwashed with trans-ing rubbish? it becomes a fad for mixed up kids; the bible does not condone porn - the pastor didnt do well, i agree

[@artsci2716]

Eric Boehlert was a truth telling man unlike Fox news!

[@artsci2716]

@Jane STARR Fox is all lies!

[@georgedunn320]

Sure, if the questioner's objective is to be an opposition advocate (not to say that's never appropriate). If the goal is to obtain information, not so much.

[@frankcantone3823]

I'll say it again. What happened to separation of church and state??????

[@branwhite5141]

Exactly!

[@cosmotagliafierro8055]

Church and state were “ unseparated” when unscrupulous politicians realized they needed the Vote of religious folks !!

[@teresamichaud1253]

Then why does your money say,”In God we Trust”?

[@davidhatcher7016]

@@teresamichaud1253 Well that is an illegal thing that was added during the red scare.

[@michaelholford8852]

@@teresamichaud1253 doesn't say which god there are about 2,000 world wide.

[@user-ou3dm6th3x]

I’m so sick of republikkkans saying the country was formed based on Christianity. It absolutely was not. Show me in the constitution where Christianity is mentioned. The only times religion is mentioned is the freedom to practice any religion you wish. And the government can’t mandate religion. Religious freedom of the reasons people left England.

[@JohnSmith-vy7ys]

Republikkkans say that because they are feeble-minded. They also have a fetish for 'leader' worship. They are childish.

[@TamaraWiens]

Afaik, the majority of the founding fathers of the USA were deists, and decidedly not Christians. Their beliefs were around a deity with no expectation that this being had any personal interest in any other being, definitely not an Abrahamic belief.

[@YouTube_can_ESAD]

When I was in the military, I was proud to fight for citizens able to exercise their religious freedom… But now these zealots now WANT to impose their mythical beliefs on everyone. It’s absolutely disgusting.

[@barrymorrisss]

There's a big diference between imposing one's beliefs on people, and letting them have free will while warning them of consequences. Do whatever you like.

[@jenbileau5073]

Thank you for defending us..... it's a sad turn of events when these people push their religion as the only correct path, especially when that is exactly what the founders escaped from...and why they put the separation of church and state in the constitution.....as a wiccan, I appreciate being able to follow my path due to the bravery of people like you.

[@AndreaMartinez-qu1be]

I feel the same. I served 20 years because I cared enough for democracy and freedom. Now these asshats are literally wanting to control how ppl/children worship. That too is a personal choice. My personal choice is to observe my faith. I cannot dictate that to another person/child. SMH. What an asshat!!

[@FGQuinto]

I heard soldiers say something like this before. Soldiers die so we can be enlightened or stupid makes no difference as long as freedom of speech remains. My question is this? Would you fight and die for my right to be an atheist if that right is infringed upon by theocratic far right Christian nationalists?

[@davidmiller4594]

@@barrymorrisss We have laws for that. There is no need for "commandments".

[@jonerickson2358]

My father spent 46 years in public education; teacher, coach, principal, University teacher of teachers. He used to tell me that as a principal, every few years a group of "citizens" would come ask him about having prayer in the public school. My father said that he would respond, "Fine, no problem: AS LONG AS I GET TO WRITE THE PRAYER!" When the "citizens" indignantly responded, "Why should you write the prayer??" he would answer, "WHY SHOULD YOU?" My father used to say that if a tornado was coming toward the school and the janitor jumped up on the table and commanded, "Everybody pray the tornado misses the school", that was "establishment!!" If a student did the same thing, that was freedom of speech!! My dad was a deacon and head usher in his church and in all my growing up, he seldom if ever missed Sunday services. (If he or we were on the road, we attended a random church in another town.) It really doesn't seem like much of a quandary, does it??? School is for learning. If you want your kid to learn about his faith or religion, take him to church or teach him at home!!!

[@kenrickeason]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@sweetpie7919]

I feel like I’ve never met two Christians who believed or prayed exactly the same way. I can think of a group of sisters who grew up in the same church, their brother is a minister, and they argue all the time about what’s what concerning the Bible and their faith. And yes, parents teach your own children, not everyone else’s.

[@monamattfeldt5439]

Absolutely agree!

[@jkorling]

@@sweetpie7919 There's a joke where you ask what's wrong with a Muslim, ask a Christian, what's wrong with the Catholic Church, ask a 1st Baptist church, what's wrong with the 1st Baptist church, ask a 2nd Baptist church, if you ask what's wrong with the person sitting in the first row of the 2nd Baptist Church, ask the person sitting behind the first person, and go on and on from there.

[@sweetpie7919]

@@jkorling wow, you're not wrong. This reminds me of my mom's best friend who goes to a church where they have had several meetings and hand out long booklets on how to talk to Muslims and explain to them why their faith is wrong. I'm from their tiny town and I can tell you, there are no Muslims there. Mainly it's Catholic with a few protestants. So what's the point? LOL.

[@Gwaithmir]

“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” (Isaac Asimov)

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

That's why Christians prefer to have it read *_to_* them. And the moral interpreted for them by a special man in a funny outfit. As adults. Who shouldn't be dragging children along on Sundays to also hear the funny man tell them stories from the Rape, Murder, and Incest book. Church should be like Sex: Consenting adults only.

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

In 2000yrs religious people have never been able to prove this God thing even exists

[@frankingram3477]

Just believe because I said so! :P

[@user-lh5sj8un4d]

They have on multiple occasions, but no one is forced to believe and never should be

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

@@user-lh5sj8un4d Another deluded believer

[@michaelholford8852]

@@user-lh5sj8un4d never on earth has any of the 2,000 plus recognised gods ever been proven, yes the Christian god is not the only god because it's all man made stories from the days when 99% of the population was illiterate.

[@ermspa9373]

We are saved through faith and faith a lone unless you are catholic then you are saved through faith and good workers . But no one has ever proven that god exist only in the Bible. If you believe the Bible. But thats the whole idea faith and faith alone saves you. But religion is bs God is not

[@RoccosVideos]

Republicans being hypocritical. I’m shocked. 🤣😂

[@lorrie2878]

Very funny

[@chrislim7976]

Because no Libtard is ever hypocritical. The irony of you is so loud it's deafening. Go play a video game please.

[@tracydavis7148]

As someone that lives in Michigan I can tell you I would never vote for that guy! Just because you can't force everyone to go to your church doesn't mean you push it in the schools!!

[@rohankurian5641]

👊🔥✌

[@John-zn4lp]

The founding fathers knew what they were doing when they believed in the separation of church and state.

[@lanamack1558]

If there is a separation of state and religion, why is a pastor running for political office?

[@Gwaithmir]

It's not against the Constitution for a pastor to run for office, but it's a violation of church/state separation if he uses his office to proselytize.

[@daisyroman1819]

The supposed founding fathers NEVER said anything about the Bible! And EVEN if they did it is unconstitutional to thrust any religion down peoples throats!!! Why are some peoples rights MORE important than mine! 👊🏼😤👊🏼🧿

[@espenpettersen5272]

A scientist will read dozens of books in its life time, but still belives he has a lot more to learn. A religious person barely reads one book, and thinks they know it all.

[@0LadyV0]

Most Christians have not read the Bible. They get cherry picked verses, read to them.

[@msmelissxo33]

I'm stealing this line and using it on my anti vax family members when they start opening their mouths about that shit omg

[@jamesyu5212]

Dozens? Even a high school dropout is expected to read at least 100.

[@johnhardimon483]

@@0LadyV0 I believe this statement because the right are masters of cherry picking the Bible and especially the constitution. Hell let's be real all politicians cherry pick both to fit their narrative.

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

Fiction doesn't count

[@elizabethvallie767]

I don’t think we should be even entertaining this because the founding fathers did not say that we should have God in our government or in our schools. Separation of church and state 100% we do not want to be a theocracy.

[@cosmotagliafierro8055]

Why can’t we just be honest with ourselves. All religions were created so a small group of opportunists could control and frighten a very large group of intellectually inferior people. I don’t mean it as an insult to anyone - I’m just stating a fact. There are a lot of people among us who are trusting, naive and gullible and unfortunately, this is the group that is repeatedly targeted by “religious con men” !!

[@patriciabeck7293]

Do you remember Paula White? She was renting an apartment in Trump Tower. Paula is an evangelist. She was praying on stage and telling everyone that an army of angels were coming down from heaven to help trump. Well we praying, and believing folks were praying God would come down from heaven to help us all who believe trump is the evil spawn of Satan himself. Guess who's prayers God heard?🤔😉😆😁

[@mrx1278]

I so agree with that.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Precisely, religion has nothing to do with God. It has to do with control. Which is why I consider myself a Christian, a disciple of Christ's teachings, but do not consider myself religious. Religions were created to exclude people from God not the bring them to Him until those in power decided they could use religion as an excuse for conquest then it became paramount that all those that were earlier excluded but forced to follow their beliefs. There's a scene in Family Guy, an occasionally funny mostly gross show, where two of the characters are time traveling through parallel universes and in one they have flying cars and instant vaccines and they comment that this is the universe where the Catholic church never existed. It's both funny and sad because we truly don't know all the knowledge this world has lots thanks to the Catholics burning the books written by "pagans" and heretics. Truly one of if not the most destructive group ever formed.

[@mrx1278]

@@Parents_of_Twins amen to that!

[@AtypicalHumanBeing]

The founding fathers did NOT found this country based on religious belief. It was for freedom from religious persecution.

[@5fingers4strings17]

Have you ever heard of John Adam's quote that the US was made for a moral and religious people?

[@leamcconnell6302]

Hell yeah!!! Freedom from religious oppression!

[@ianmayes8072]

I'm afraid that is bollocks. The Founding Fathers weren't fleeing persecution any more than the Brownists (Pilgrim Fathers so called) were. At the time of the secession from Britain, the majority of the population of the American Colonies were in favour of remaining part of their old country, and it was dear old Thomas Paine who arrived with lots of republican ideas (small 'r') and a grudge against the British Government who set out to gain adherents to the idea. Surprised you don't know your history better, there being so little of it. 🙂@@5fingers4strings17

[@jjordan211]

And taxes, don't forget about the heavy taxes imposed on the western colonies to the British monarchy .....ijs

[@ianmayes8072]

I see you've been reading the Janet and John or Ladybird History of America with lots of pictures. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sharonannrees2824]

Keep the Church and State separate, as the Constitution says!

[@robertparadis6840]

There will never be an end to religious zealous wanting to take away individual Liberties. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@carolpeiffer875]

“Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.” ~Thomas Paine

[@josegarrido7021]

don't go there, its wrong to step on other's beliefs

[@EMyers1981]

@@josegarrido7021 The whole idea, and practice of religion that only serves to divide people as well as justify killing of the other believers is what is wrong.

[@Nothingatall794]

I totally agree that if you follow satan,you will do evil things, and to read without understanding does bring about doubt of being a true Christian. To say that all Christians are the same is like saying there are no bad cops. I would suggest judging by a person’s actions and not their words.

[@ec5394]

In order to keep church & state separate, we shouldn't allow church leaders to run for any type of political office as trojan horses.

[@sheritacotten5293]

We only want the decent and honest ones running for office 🙏😇😍🥰

[@alternativelyabled3757]

I agree - NO religious leaders in political office, EVER. Choose your lane.

[@Pamlandy2]

Not only religious leaders, but also anyone who uses religion as a reason for or against a law. Religion does not belong in our government!

[@lincolnyaco5626]

-amen, brutha!-

[@kathydittmer9659]

100%!

[@Glacierproductionsgmail]

WHAT??? No religion in schools unless it's a private school!

[@monicawallace-jn8tl]

I don’t remember our founders saying the Bible should be the basic textbook and scripture in schools…

[@roems6396]

Because they didn’t. Many of the founders weren’t even Christians. They were deists. He’s probably quoting a single Christian among the founders who said that somewhere, and is conflating it to mean that they all meant it.

[@wsconsn]

After my grandson started going to a Christian daycare every time he got upset or angry he would say “I want to die and go to heaven”, he was five. If that’s not child abuse I don’t know what is.

[@davidmiller4594]

Years ago, a 7yo lost her mother. During the wake and funeral, everyone was telling her that she will be with her mother in heaven one day. The little girl killed herself because she missed her mother and just wanted to be with her again. Ignorance is never bliss in hindsight.

[@DimplesGenX]

Words of advice: Never trust a Politician who tells you how to pray or a Pastor that tells you how to vote. I have had a career as a civil servant in government for over a decade and also a career working with churches for over a decade.

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

The only god they serve is their greed

[@amb3cog]

@@marcosolo6491 There you go. Short and sweet! ✌️

[@wisenfunny]

Sooo Very True!!

[@TheReturnOfStephan1]

Didn't the founders explicitly state that this is NOT a Christian nation?

[@pickleballer1729]

There's a major problem with the idea of ringing religion "back into our culture (by which he totally means into our government)". It never _was_ part of our government. There are only tow references to religion or god in the Constitution, and both are not endorsements of religion in government, but actual prohibitions to it.

[@ChrisJones-wg1iy]

Don’t pray in my school and I won’t think in your church.

[@shoknifeman2mikado135]

NO ONE thinks in church, their reason for being is to TELL you what to think! The no.1 reason, of many, that I RAN from the church, the day I turned 18!

[@Justanobody0127]

@@shoknifeman2mikado135 well to be fair the historical purpose of the church was to read/interpret the Bible to the illiterate masses at the time. Technically since we're 96% literate we don't need it but most Christians still don't read the Bible because they are read it in church. But you are right the pastor’s job is to tell you what the Bible means and it's far to often coated in layers of biasness

[@Viajealduende]

Nothing like a religious man to “groom” our children in schools.

[@stephsweden5623]

Well tell em' to please get in line behind all the irreligious people that are already hard at work in school 'grooming' children!

[@Viajealduende]

@@stephsweden5623 You missed the entire point of the f’n report. The American authors of the US Constitution. Jefferson, Franklin etc… made it law to keep religion out of government. They made this country free to worship and if you wanted your kids to go to a religious school they could.

[@Viajealduende]

@@stephsweden5623 Plus it’s very well documented that religious authorities have sexually abused children in the tens of thousands, just in the last century! I’d bet the farm they abused their power using the fear of going to hell in the name of God much more than the non religious community. You’re going to hell if you disagree. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stephsweden5623]

@@Viajealduende Thank you for this basic information I already know.

[@Viajealduende]

@@stephsweden5623 Well then… what’s your point? That non religious professors can be guilty of abusing children? That’s also obviously true.

[@debragonser745]

No!!! Separation is of church and state!!!!!!!! That is the constitution!!!!!!! Don’t go backwards!!!!

[@pamelamccall5653]

The Founding fathers did not say that The Bible should be the foundation of our country. Our country is not founded on Christian principles either! Freedom of religion means FROM religion as well.

[@drdr76]

Our founders NEVER said the bible should be in schools. Jefferson himself founded the first public college in Virginia. When asked who would lead the religious department he replied that there would not be a religious department.

[@pjo2386]

the pilgrim fathers built the first school, then the first college/university in Boston and Cambridge, Mass. '' Harvard College, around which Harvard University eventually grew, was founded in 1636 in Cambridge, Massachusetts, making it the oldest institution of higher learning in the United States''

[@pjo2386]

state constitutions may have diff views; i dont think the FF stated 'trans-sexual/gender changing' doctrine should be taught either

[@drdr76]

@@pjo2386 I said "public" college. Get your facts straight.

[@pjo2386]

Jefferson wasnt an atheist, he believed in God, and studied the Bible for morals; no doubt so did his co-founders and the teachers; deism, untarian-ism; even the greatest philosophers were theists [and ancient Greeks like Plato, Aristotle..], believed in one eternal God; a mixture of biblical religion and classical Greek ideas have inspired modern democracy, the judiciary, human freedoms and rights; Christians like Lincoln, Wilberforce...and more recently, MLK

[@pjo2386]

@Robert Butler we know he believed in God because its recorded - for a deist/God is his creator; That doesnt mean he he wasnt a hypocrite; [the culture at that time was that only white people were humans, also eg Cherokees also kept black and other slaves; that was just how ancient culture was... Christ - ''man, woman, slave, free, all are equal/same before GOD'' .... 'turn the other cheek'....was ignored by the majority of the 'religious' who looked to the OT, not the NT... OT;- murder for supposed 'heresy' was rife' he tore out pages from the Bible and made a different version that suited his man made distorted God

[@billpool1217]

Some of us, don't need to believe in invisible sky gods, in order to treat other people, like people. A lesson Christians have yet to learn.

[@pzm2461]

We need to protect the kids from religious zealotry.

[@CarolLandon]

Separation of church and state !

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

And Church should be for 18 and above only. Nothing is more groomer-ish than Sunday School. When you drop your kids off on weekends with the unemployed Cosplayer guy who still believes in magic, you don't get to act surprised when they end up in the news because he was a pervert.

[@lizzieandbob1]

Guess a guy running for Governor probably should know this- Article 11 of the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, which declares that “the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,”

[@MindRebelion]

Thanks for your comments brother good to know you’re out there ✊🏼

[@nelliekenny9630]

I don't want my children to have access to that awful book. All the violence and pornographic imagery.

[@tadhgflaherty2943]

It's shocking, the number of Republicans that have the nerve to use God and religion to justify their motivations, and then when they're called out, their response is " we're all sinners".

[@ctr8896]

This is why Church and state are separate.

[@irishdivajeffries6668]

Separation of church and state is paramount!

[@thomasd4738]

Some time around age 12, I pointed out some Old Testament inconsistencies to the nun teaching our Bible studies class. We bantered for a bit and she burst into tears and called me "Devil spawn." Needless to say, my mother (the one paying my Catholic school tuition, mind you) was less than pleased, but you can't really fire an 80 year old nun, so no choice but to laugh it off and make the best of my new nickname.

[@user-yp2hn2zd3q]

Actually this sort of thing is more common than you think. You should NEVER have been treated it that way.

[@carenann918]

It never gets old when their wheels are spinning and they know they are wrong. That look on their face is priceless.

[@travisgrant5608]

The founders of the USA stated "WE SHALL NOT ESTABLISH A RELIGION!" They did NOT want to be ruled by a religion or a king!!!! Get an EDUCATION!!!!

[@vermont741]

“Religion poisons everything” - Christopher Hitchens

[@rexxsimba]

No , No , No .... These same hypocrites would jump to the moon if a teacher produced a Koran or Torah in the same class ... Separation of Church and State is enshrined in the Constitution .. Religion is a private matter for all Citizens ... Keep religious dogma out of classrooms EXCEPT for purely historical or ethical references ...

[@Jeff-66]

Exactly. This is an attempt at getting ONLY the bible, and Christianity in schools, and specifically evangelical Christianity. Anything else need not apply.

[@richardhedd3080]

I believe we people who were raised with religion should file a class action suit against the church for the life long traumas that it has caused. No joke intended. When you tell a 8 year old that swearing is a hell worthy offense, that's mental cruelty of the most dangerous kind.

[@grob318]

It says here that “Religion is the opiate of the masses”… What do you suppose that means? - Calvin & Hobbes

[@gavingryte]

Why do Christians keep saying that the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values? There is absolutely nothing in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution that is based on anything that is unique to Judeo-Christian philosophies.

[@megwysatta7393]

Separation of church and state. Period.

[@calisto2735]

He asks "Books, that you don't want to see in schools" and the guy responds "I would remove the pornography" ... What kind of schools has he went to? 😆 You all may find this hard to believe but in my school we had ZERO pornographic materials, unless this guy counts a naked ankle as a pornography 🤣

[@DeeEllEff]

I’m sure that he means any book that describes history with any degree at all of accuracy (e.g. that George A. Custer or Robert E. Lee were NOT great guys)

[@pd003]

🙄🧐😟🥸

[@juneramirez8580]

Ir's just another attempt by republicans to lie and get people behind them. Like schools that had kitty litter boxes in bathrooms for children that thought they were cats? If a child believes they are cats they need mental health not a litter pan! Schools can't afford school supplies and text books. They are going to provide litter boxes? Just chase those cat children to the end of our flat earth so they fall off! Lol

[@jeanponce2017]

Yeah well that ankle had bad intentions you know it wanted that high heel and stocking all over it that dirty little ankle

[@ralphscholz9533]

Bear in mind that there are people in this world that think a full hijab is still too “pornographic”.

[@rebeccamartin411]

I believe it was Christopher Hitchens who said "with or without religion good peole do good things and bad people do bad things. However, if you want a good person to do bad things that requires religion."

[@ronitennant5253]

Where does it say that the founders wanted to have the Bible as the basic text in schools?

[@curiousk9603]

Forcing Churches to pay taxes would be helpful!!!

[@bethanynelson8489]

People in church do pay taxes. The money they give to a church is because they want to help people. You can argue about whether they do, and I'd say some definitely do more than others, like the ones I have volunteered at that feed homeless people or provide overnight lodging for them, or provide assistance to refugees, which not all do such things, but the people that give do so to help a community larger than themselves and it does not benefit society to discourage that.

[@greeneyedlady5580]

​@@bethanynelson8489 A lot of churches in the US are actually very profitable businesses, but they don't have to pay taxes the way that other businesses do. Churches shouldn't be able to accommodate hundreds of millions, or even billions of dollars of assets, without being taxed. It's especially a problem when a lot of churches have become very political, and are preaching for or against certain candidates or political parties. Those churches especially need to lose their tax free status.

[@bethanynelson8489]

@@greeneyedlady5580 A lot of churches are barely scraping by, definitely aren't in it for the money. It's not a good bet for that. Yes, some churches do take in a lot, but for the number of churches there are, it is not the majority. Full disclosure, my dad is a retired minister and we never had a lot of money. My clothes were handy me downs from my cousins. My parents didn't have a house of their own when they retired. And that's ok, it wasn't for the money. It would've been nice to have a little more, for my parents to have a house of their own, but they still provided a lot for me. As far as political, it's when they tell who to vote for, or more accurately now adays, which party to vote for, that they become corrupted. Speaking about political issues is actually something I think they should do, they should speak up for the poor, for the immigrant, for the marginilized. Some have, like Martin Luther King Jr. or Dorothy Day. When they aren't in it for power, aren't seeking that, but instead putting those principles of service to others first, they have been a force in politics for good.

[@mrx1278]

It's not the attendees we should be addressing here it is the church leadership that sullied the whole thing for me. Obviously, most of the people who have concerns for others within a congregation do pay taxes and contribute to causes that are indeed from a beautiful heart. The problem is people like Bennie Hinn and the like, who prey on others for profit and still don't pay taxes. If taxes are required to keep our country in service, everyone should participate, even those who claim religious immunity.

[@AcornDomainsCancelled]

Forcing All Biden voters to pay for all the illegal immigration here would help 10 fold more! Do you like that? 👍

[@ac61900]

You want the Bible to be tied to the kids then tell their parents to send them to Sunday school cuz that's where you learn about the Bible not in schools.

[@scottmorris5730]

1]My friend in Texas decided to go to Bible Study Class over 30 years ago. When he started to ask questions on the interpretation of the scriptures he was asked to leave the class. They wanted no questions and wanted you to be a mindless sheep like the rest of the class. 2] My brother was asked to sign for deaf parishioners in B.S.C. He was asked questions by them and tried to answer them. The minister told him NOT to do that and just teach them what the Evangelical church wanted them to hear/know. They were taking advantage of their handicap. This is abuse.

[@SuzzieMarie0130]

Many of these “Christians” either never knew or have forgotten that the many of people who emigrated to the colonies were fleeing religious persecution-Pilgrims in New England, Catholics in Marylland, French Huguenots to Protestant areas. Obviously economic concerns were also involved. For example my ancestors, the Acadian people of Nova Scotia, were persecuted for years for resisting oaths to the British Crown & the CofE. However, the underlying motive was a tawdry land grab by wealthy British colonists who coveted the rich lands and natural resource of Novis Scotia. Being men of the Enlightenment, the framers of the DOI, Constitution & Bill of Rights clearly recognized the dangers when executive, military and religious power reside in the hand of the monarch. This we have the establishment clause. “Christian Nationalism have so perverted the founders’ intent, carrying it into far R field that they are endanger of falling off the edge of our incredible, flat earth

[@stevenclarke5606]

Religion has no place in politics

[@crystalratclffe3258]

My mother taught me this about religious freedom: "I don't care if you worship a pine tree. Don't plant it in my front yard, don't teach it to my kids in school, and keep it the f%&k off the law books!"

[@Tessmage_Tessera]

Smart mom.

[@pd003]

🙄😬

[@carllawson5275]

as member of the right, I think mainstream conservatives agree with you as i

[@jesseb8672]

Praise Gosh. Beautiful statement.

[@annarae2396]

@@carllawson5275 please ask these people you speak of to stop voting for the likes of MTG and Lauren Boebert...

[@jamesbest9038]

"i believe there is an invisible unicorn who lives in my closet" "Ok. I don't but you do you " "I believe there is an invisible unicorn who lives in my closet and he decides everything about my life." "Well i disagree with that but you are free to do whatever you like " "I believe there is an Invisible unicorn who lives in my closet and he gets to decide how YOU and your family live your lives" "Nope."

[@UCS0608]

Right. Believe whatever you want, but I (any many, many more) don't want to be bothered with it!!

[@stephenconnolly3018]

New research confirms that there is a negative relationship between religiosity and intelligence. The findings have been published in the scientific journal Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin. “Religiosity is a pervasive phenomenon. Its influence can be felt in all spheres of life. However, a sizeable portion of the population defines itself as atheist. Why do some people decide not to be religious? I thought it was an important and fascinating question,” said study author Miron Zuckerman of the University of Rochester. Zuckerman and his colleagues previously conducted a meta-analysis of 63 studies, which found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity.” In other words, religious people tend to be less intelligent than non-religious people on average.

[@frankrizzuto5948]

Of course they do! And religion is a mental illness.

[@Spartacus-pq5yp]

It's annoying to explain to new acquaintances that being atheist does not mean I "worship the devil" It just means you don't need religion to be a good, law abiding person, to be on the side of justice and equality.

[@timcornelius1912]

Arturo Leal.Thank You

[@timothyjarvis4208]

No, more like we needed divine authority to establish what is moral or good, my if we set that standard just think of it's constant revision

[@Spartacus-pq5yp]

@@timothyjarvis4208 You don't need religion. If people want to believe the thousands of interpretations of the bible, well, live and let live. Emphasis on "interpretations". If they want to believe pastors, priests, or any religious leader so be it. Don't force those beliefs on me.

[@lynnefletcher7152]

I never, ever saw a book in the school system that had pornography in them at any level. Where in hell did he go to school.

[@carolyn4407]

I think he means anyone who has no clothes on, and maybe hugging each other. These Christian folks getting carried away with their imaginations

[@kimmichaud7741]

Me neither no porno at my school

[@dougs7367]

Right wingers consider showing ankles pornography

[@robertehatten4847]

If the people in Michigan vote for this guy, they will deserve him.

[@markojotic]

When a school board starts the banning process, all parents should demand the Bibles removal.

[@chaz9997]

Let's make it happen...👍👍👍

[@Ozone280]

The US wasn't founded on ANY religion, quite the opposite, that's what separation of church and state means. And if it's Constitutionality we're talking about, putting bibles in classrooms would automatically make it compulsory to put the scriptures of all other religions in classrooms as well, as the state cannot promote one religion over any others within the Consitution. Besides, why would you want a book that's full of hate for outsiders, murder, rape, incest, oppression of minorities (including women) and blood sacrifice in a classroom, polluting the minds of impressionable children before they've developed the reasoning capacity to decide for themselves without being indoctrinated? Sounds like child abuse to me.

[@DeeEllEff]

Certainly I shouldn’t have to explain why alt- or far-right nutjobs would want books with most of those ideas in them available in public school libraries. If it’s their side doing the indoctrination, then obviously it’s all well and good. (And just the same level of hypocrisy for the other side, of course.)

[@Beaconwarriorsaint921]

Incest, genocide, murder, drunkenness, hate, jealousy, envy, greed, sloth, perversion and much more in that "Good Book."

[@rhondasisson1681]

EVANGELICALS SERVE TRUMP!! Just like Jim Jones cultist served him!! Suringes please!!

[@ericrivera8410]

And torture crucification

[@DeeEllEff]

You’d think Ryan Murphy had a hand in it.

[@pd003]

Yes, the Bible covers all the sins that humans are guilty of. It is the great good Book.

[@davidmiller4594]

@@pd003 And with that, should be nowhere near childrens schools.

[@AliceR27]

Sorry, atheist here. I cannot fathom why anyone can follow any "teaching" where the god runs around murdering people on a whim, oftentimes contradicting itself on reasons for doing so.

[@freemanmanfree5719]

Republican definition of "Gotcha Question" - any question that they can't answer.

[@DisappearingNightly]

Lately that would seem to include virtually any honest, meaningful question. When "invisible man in the clouds from two thousand year old book" becomes your default rationale for everything in the modern world, you really might want to give it all a re-think.

[@pd003]

This is neither a Republican nor a Democrat speaking. This is a Christian speaking up about the cruelty of a so-called good country, the USA which is now run by a clique of mean, cruel, heartless, jaded, Godless people who are always insulting Christians.

[@freemanmanfree5719]

@@pd003 you sound bitter, Christian. I am a democrat, minority. I was raised in the church as a Christian. The Christians that i criticize are white evangelical, and I am surrounded by them every day. They are equally as cruel, jaded, and heartless as non-christians are. Just calling themselves Christian doesn't give them a pass. They are forgiven only by their God. But in the eyes of non Christian, they're just people who are expecting to have some elevated human status, above all others. I understand the need to be defensive, but Christians in the US are not being persecuted, they are just treated as everyone else...without reverence, elevation, or special status. Sorry.

[@alexginzo1246]

I love it when religious folks get schooled on their hypocrisy.

[@brianfreeman8290]

If you wish to believe in unproven fiction, that's your call, but don't try to impose it on me.

[@Nemesis-pe7mw]

A bit of a weird thing to say when flying a British flag ;) PS I'm Dutch so kind of in the same boat there...

[@brianfreeman8290]

The comment stands for all religious zealots regardless of their flag. They are entitled to their opinions, but I do not wish to hear them I resent the fact that religion was forced upon us at school. @@Nemesis-pe7mw

[@Nemesis-pe7mw]

@@brianfreeman8290 You mean zealots I hope. Zealots are not limited to religion regrettably. You do get that I referenced the UK being one of the mayor countries which historically did what you're describing. Just not on the bases of religion right? Abuse of belief is all around us and goes much further then religion! The UK has a long history of oppression and forcing their beliefs onto others. In many instances pairing up with the church to do so, however far from limited to actual religion VERY FAR. A history many brits are still proud of in my experience. Hell many brits still think they're THE super power.

[@diaboloavocado]

​@@Nemesis-pe7mwthe USA has a long history of oppression and forced belief too. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

[@denisemass6081]

They will cherry pick the wholesome parts of the bible. But when a student brings up the dirty parts how will they explain that? Ummmmmm?

[@KaozVirtus]

Religion should be kept out of public schools, period.

[@monicawallace-jn8tl]

And our taxes for education should only go towards public schools! Not private nor charter schools…. ☺️

[@patrickwalsh2361]

You guys should do a show showing quotes from the founding fathers where they explicitly are against allowing religious beliefs to influence their new government. In fact, many of them despised the Bible! 👍🏻👍🏽👍🏿

[@DEricKesler]

Anytime someone starts talking about the founding fathers, they should be reminded that the author of the Declaration of Independence was a man who raped his slaves. Straight to hell with those wealthy, white men.

[@50jakecs]

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[@pete9009]

No wonder why it's trumps favourite book 😅

[@billulman3254]

Where in the Constitution does it say the Bible should be the basic textbook in schools ???????? lol

[@sunnymagneti]

The best way to free yourself of religion is to actually read the magic book. After reading it if you still want to be a follower go right ahead but most people with a brain and a heart will leave it alone.

[@dsiepiela6449]

I’m so sick of being saturated with the Christian mythology.

[@bethanynelson8489]

Part of freedom is that you are going to hear views you disagree with expressed.

[@greeneyedlady5580]

​@@bethanynelson8489 if I want to hear sermonizing, I'll go to a church. Other than that, if the context is a class about comparative religions, or that kind of a discussion in general, then great, have at it. The program comes in where adherents to one, and only one, religion in the US feel entitled to continuously try to shove their own religious beliefs down everyone else's throats, no matter what the context is.. The US has a lot of Jewish people, but I've never seen one of them doing it. Paganism is the fastest growing religious segment in the US, but I've never seen a pagan doing it. The absurd level of arrogance displayed every day by US Christians, feeling entitled to invade every single corner of public life and social media, to prosthelytize about how their way is the only way, and the rest of us are going to rot in hell, just isn't seen in other modernized democracies. All they are actually accomplishing is driving many millions of people away from religion, and church attendance is falling and falling, especially along the younger generations.

[@bethanynelson8489]

@@greeneyedlady5580 I don't think religious instruction belongs in the public classroom, so we are in agreement on that. I'm just saying that if you live in a free society, to not want to ever hear a view of a religion that a lot of people adhere to in that country is not realistic. Christians are the largest religious group in the US, so it makes sense that's what you would encounter most, and more here than other democracies for I don't think it is as much a part of people's lives in other democracies, they haven't had the revivals, like among some of the hippies in the 60s that spread into quite a movement, and a lot of other ones in our history. I could be wrong on that, but I do feel the history is different which has led to a higher participation, going to church, all of that, for worse or better, not making a judgement on that, but people are more religious here so you encounter it more. Of course we are both talking in vague terms, what defines more less for either of us in our statements? What qualifies as shoving it down your throat? I'd say trying to teach it in a classroom does, so I totally agree on that. However, this guy saying it doesn't mean that is what a majority of Christains want. I do see something that is not good happening in the American Church. Not in all branches, but it is there enough that it does need to be addressed, called out. This is the desire for power, to hold onto power, the fear that drives that, is definitely a strain of a virus that is shown in the Religious Right support of the Republican party despite the horrible things the Republican party has supported lately, like the overthrow of our democracy. And if it is not addressed, it will do great harm, and will drive people away as you indicated.

[@greeneyedlady5580]

@@bethanynelson8489 Well said.

[@hollisblinn7910]

You can teach ethics and morality in school only so long as you don't attach any affiliation to religion of ANY kind!

[@matthew6695]

The fact he already knows about it and nonchalantly disregards it is hypocrisy on full display

[@eschaefer6512]

Keep pastors and any and all religious leaders out of government offices.

[@chrissager2577]

Oh let's not skip over the slavery and rape and genocide, and blatant misogyny

[@Flatheadfreek]

our country was not founded on christian principles...

[@tekknow-9419]

This country was NOT founded on Judeo Christian principles, in fact it was specifically founded on the belief that no one religion should be held above any others, that is the exact OPPOSITE and for that reason the very first amendment states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

[@konradheumann8342]

WHERE did the Founders say that the Bible should be taught in schools? I can't believe the interviewer didn't push back on that BS.

[@multitudeofidols]

Wish he pointed out that many of the founding fathers were deists.

[@ShadowFoxSF]

They never did. Near as I can tell, they believed in a higher power that would require them to throw off tyrrany such as they felt from the crown at the time of the revolution... they kept such religious/spiritual leanings out of the constitution but acknowledged people had religions when forming the 1st amendment.

[@konradheumann8342]

@@ShadowFoxSF - Yes, and also - implicitly - freedom FROM religion.

[@user-zd8nb4ko3s]

Our ancestors fought and died to obtain freedom from dictatorship forced by the British and create a new nation America. It is sad that Americans don't remember or care about why we fought for freedom and why the declaration of independence, Bill of Rights and the constitution was created by our two parties.The desire for freedom from British rule stemmed from several key reasons: 1. **Taxation without Representation:** The colonies were being taxed by the British government without having any representatives in the British Parliament. This lack of representation led to resentment among the colonists who believed they were being unfairly taxed. 2. **Limitations on Trade and Economy:** British policies restricted the colonies' economic growth by imposing trade regulations that favored British businesses. This hindered the colonies' ability to develop their own industries and trade freely with other nations. 3. **Violation of Civil Liberties:** The British government imposed various laws that the colonists saw as infringing upon their rights and freedoms, such as the Quartering Act, which allowed British soldiers to lodge in private homes, and the issuance of writs of assistance that authorized searches without warrants. 4. **Desire for Self-Governance:** Colonists believed in their right to govern themselves and make decisions that directly affected their lives. They sought autonomy in managing their local affairs and wanted to establish their own government that would represent their interests. The culmination of these grievances led to the drafting and signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776, declaring the colonies' independence from British rule and marking the beginning of the American Revolutionary War. The certain rights that were highlighted in the Declaration of Independence are often referred to as natural rights or unalienable rights. They include: 1. **Life:** This means the right to live freely and without fear for one's life being taken unjustly. 2. **Liberty:** This refers to personal freedom-the ability to make choices about one's life, beliefs, and actions without unnecessary restrictions. 3. **Pursuit of Happiness:** This encompasses the right to pursue personal fulfillment, happiness, and well-being in one's own way, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. After the Declaration of Independence, these ideas influenced the creation of the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. The Bill of Rights specifically outlines various rights and freedoms that are legally protected for all citizens. For example: - The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, religion, and the press. - The Second Amendment addresses the right to bear arms. - The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. - The Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. These rights, among others, were enshrined in law to ensure that citizens have certain fundamental freedoms and protections against government overreach or infringement on their liberties or family lives. The United States was not founded as a Christian nation in terms of being officially tied to any specific religion. The founding principles emphasized freedom of religion, allowing individuals to practice any faith or no faith at all without government interference. The First Amendment to the Constitution explicitly prohibits the establishment of a state religion and protects the freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government. This separation of church and state ensures that the government does not favor or endorse any particular religion. Regarding language, while English became the predominant language over time due to the majority of settlers being English-speaking, there was no official declaration designating English as the "true" language. The U.S. has always been diverse linguistically, and there has never been an official national language at the federal level. The idea of the United States was to be a place where people from various backgrounds, cultures, and beliefs could coexist and contribute to the nation's growth without any single religion or language being imposed on everyone. The founding of the United States didn’t directly address medical decisions, family planning, or birth control as we might understand them today. The focus was primarily on establishing a new form of government that protected individual freedoms and rights, including the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. The government's role in personal medical decisions or family planning wasn’t a central part of the founding principles. The emphasis was on limiting government interference in personal matters and ensuring individual autonomy. Over time, debates about personal freedoms, including healthcare choices, reproductive rights, and family planning, have evolved and continue to be topics of discussion and debate within the framework of constitutional rights and legal interpretations. The founding principles intended to create a nation where individuals had the freedom to make personal choices within the bounds of the law without undue government intrusion or control over these private matters The founding principles of the United States didn’t advocate for unchecked power for politicians without accountability. Instead, the system was designed with several mechanisms to ensure accountability: 1. **Elected Representatives:** Politicians are elected by the people to represent their interests. Through regular elections, citizens have the power to choose their representatives and hold them accountable for their actions and decisions. 2. **Separation of Powers:** The government was structured with a system of checks and balances, dividing power among three branches-executive, legislative, and judicial. Each branch has specific powers and can check the actions of the others, preventing any single branch from becoming too dominant. 3. **Constitutional Limits:** Politicians are bound by the Constitution, which outlines the framework of government and protects citizens' rights. Any action that violates the Constitution can be challenged in the courts, ensuring adherence to the rule of law. 4. **Transparency and Oversight:** Government actions are subject to scrutiny and oversight. There are processes such as congressional hearings, investigative journalism, and public access to government information that help keep politicians accountable for their decisions and actions. While the system was designed with mechanisms for accountability, ensuring that politicians remain accountable to the people who elected them is an ongoing process. Citizens' participation in the democratic process through voting, advocacy, and engagement with elected officials plays a crucial role in maintaining accountability within the government. Certainly, here are examples of potential legal consequences for attempting to overturn an election through various unlawful means: 1. **Abuse of Power:** - **Legal Proceedings:** Individuals accused of abusing their official capacity might face investigations, impeachment proceedings, or civil lawsuits. - **Consequences:** If found guilty, consequences could range from removal from office to fines, loss of benefits, or disqualification from holding public office in the future. - **Legal Penalties:** Conviction could result in criminal penalties such as fines, imprisonment, or probation, depending on the severity and scope of the conspiracy. Violations severe enough to potentially result in imprisonment for an elected official found guilty of violating their oath to the Constitution typically involve serious criminal offenses or egregious breaches of the law. These could include: 2.**Perjury or False Swearing:** Lying under oath, especially when the false statement is material to an investigation or legal proceeding. 3.**Violations of Civil Rights:** Engaging in actions that knowingly and willfully deprive individuals of their constitutionally protected civil rights. It is crystal clear why we sought our independence from the British and the years it took leaders to create our democracy based on 3 branches. If we allow representatives of office to disregard or obey the laws that make up our democracy we will carry the disquieting thoughts and burdens of our died forefathers blood wasted on our failure to make their existence mean nothing. Our courts and juries make decisions of guilty or innocent by the evidence. If we allow spoken words, written text, witness, and video showing accountability and enough evidence to draw a conclusion. Whether our values align more with right and left, we must have standards, responsibilities, accountability, and repercussions on our actions, decision, and accept responsibility for them.

[@RichardLewisCaldwell]

I "agree" with the pastor. Schools should have a "Bible Study" class where all the worst passages are discussed in depth.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

When I had a course on the Old Testament in college, I was stunned, and horrified by how violent it was. Freddy Kruger and Jason got nothin’ on God.

[@meredithheath5272]

💯💯💯👏

[@altogetherseparate2189]

Scholars point to that as validity. Not as an example of how to behave but to how the writers told the good the bad and the ugly. Also, you often see consequences as a result of the peoples behavior. Whether you believe in God or Not. The ancient observers were revealing what happens when a culture loses it's way. When good kings rule when bad kings rule.

[@rlue698]

We need to tax churches

[@jaywatt4674]

This why We The People need to tax the churches because the ones at the alters are telling their sheeple which way to vote. WE THE PEOPLE NEED A PROGRESSIVE FLAT TAX ALL THE WAY TO THE TRILLIONS INCULDE CORPORATIONS AND CHURCHES ON THE SAME PLAN, the motto will be the more you make the more we take !

[@user-vo9xu8dn1d]

The Bible is the oldest Dirty Joke book in the world. When you understand the metaphors and symbolisms in the text, you soon realize that those who wrote it were mixing deep spiritual subjects, with off colored humor. It took me a long time to grasp this. The gags and jokes are sophisticated. I am sure when the Bible (Old and New Testament) were being written, they were thinking of ways to illustrate the wise ideas in the text. But, realized that many would be very oblivious to them, then decided to wrap them in the Dirty Jokes of their time period. In my many notebooks is a subject, The Oldest Dirty Joke Book. All verses in the Bible are very old dirty jokes, some that date back to ancient Sumer. In short, The Bible is the oldest book with very sophisticated pornography.

[@scottiescott5006]

What happen to the word of God????

[@robertstrong6639]

Please show some examples in the text. Very interesting, because I've not heard of this before, I'm very curious.

[@user-vo9xu8dn1d]

The writing style of the Bible in the original languages is in the style of a storyteller. They would tell only half of the story, and you would need to fill in the rest of the details. Or they would tell a story, where you needed to visualize the descriptions. Hebrew is a visual language. Here are three examples. Read Ezekiel 23:20. Where it reads "As the flesh of asses," this is implying the penis of a donkey. So, you must visualize the donkey's member. Same thing when it says, "Issue of Horses." Imagine a horse dick spewing out jizz. The writer is expecting the reader to get very visual with very saucy imagination, in order to fathom the depths of the visual quality of this verse. Read Genesis 19:30-38. Lot and his two daughters are in a cave. His daughters get him drunk so they can have sex with him. THAT is some back woods incest stuff going on. And the daughters even have kids. Imagine what kind of kids they have!!! Men in the Bible are not that smart. Here is a fun one. Read Genesis 26:8. King Abimelech is watching Isaac and Rebecca getting it on. The King James version uses the word " sporting". In Hebrew, it uses Metzachq. In Hebrew this means 'Make fun, or from laughing.' The English reader of 1611 will get right away what is going on. Here we have themes of voyeurism and exhibitionism. Genesis uses polite words anticipating that the reader will get the point as to what Isaac and Rebecca are doing. I hope this grabs your curiosity. Here is my hypothesis as to why there are very saucy verses all over the Bible. The writers wrote great ideas of spiritual knowledge. They also recognized that the average person would not get them. So, they wrote what is known as grabber words or grabber verses. Thus, wrapping spiritual wisdom in nasty and smutty phrases. I hope you have enjoyed these brief descriptions. @@robertstrong6639

[@davidmiller4594]

*You Don't Need Religion To Teach Morals and Principles*

[@yvonnedauterive]

Well said, thank you!

[@MrJameslascko]

No, you don't! But morals and principles are illustrated in the Bible.... and many stories are told bout when they were disregarded!

[@cookien8390]

Apparently they forgot about separation of church and state. Someone needs to remind them of the fact that because of monarchies and monotheistic cultures, we fled to the new country to establish a society that allowed religious freedom. It seems as though their memories only work to serve their own arguments

[@MrRoyum]

We fled? I think you are referring to the British who fled to the new world, those Brits didn’t become American until 180 years later.

[@Marvinwalker-ud3yo]

Leave the Bible and religion in churches and science, mathematics, languages, social studies, and other studies already being taught in public school systems alone. If U want ur child to learn about religion in schools, enroll them in a Catholic school or any other religion based school, not my tax dollar paid educational centers.

[@albertbrammer9263]

The "Founders" were mainly non-religious. They stated the country should not be Christian. They based the constitution on the ideals of the French Revolution.

[@frankiestein78912]

Bro we got our independence before the French Revolution happened 🤣, they were inspired by us, it happened like 13 years after declaration was written and five or 6 after we won revolutionary war

[@PsychologicalApparition]

They also didn't see abortion as an issue - nothing the government needed part in!

[@tekcomputers]

They were inspired by enlightenment philosophy which also inspired the French Revolution. But yeah, nothing to do with religion. Was mostly Deist philosophy.... Deist was unequivocally non-Christian. The Deists idea of a god was a being who created and then just left the universe alone.

[@dalejoy5079]

Separation of Church and State.

[@caitiff52]

I loved it when Selvig added "You know, protect the kids..." Actually, if you want to protect kids, banning the Bible is very good idea.

[@hellshade2]

if you really wanted to start protecting kids you would ban all religions. they are nothing but pure mythology. and while learning about different mythologies has it's place and time in a school being told that any of the beings described are real and you should believe it and follow it is wrong and i tend to consider this child abuse....

[@JohnSmith-il7jn]

@@hellshade2 What is mythology to you?

[@hellshade2]

@@JohnSmith-il7jn what is Mythology to me? why don't you go grab a dictionary and look it up. they are useful you know...or maybe not.

[@JohnSmith-il7jn]

@@hellshade2 I asked you the question?

[@hellshade2]

@@JohnSmith-il7jn and i gave you an answer, perhaps one you did not like so i guess it sucks to be you. but don't worry i am sure the dictionary is still handy...

[@glendagraves1637]

Our founders NEVER said the Bible should be taught in schools.

[@andyquinones85]

TRUE, and they never espoused Judeo-Christian principles; In fact most of them were Deist which was popular after the Rennaisance in Europe.

[@jasonyoung3070]

No religion belongs in government there's not a religion yet that's not full of extremists who think they are God's ppl and can do what they want cause God!

[@becp488]

What I really find strange is the belief that any school library has pornography in it.

[@5fingers4strings17]

Go to your local public school and look in the library....

[@CPoppaB1tch]

Well in health class there was pics of guys genitals and a form of female. That could be on the line.

[@FladFlidington]

The book with the Most offencive debortury perversion,and straight out Bullshit is in every Library and 99% of schools it's The what they call the Holy Bible and it contains explicit pornography along with it's depraved treatment of those who participate in it. God have Mercy on Christians

[@murraydyck2127]

He put him on the spot. Can’t fix stupid.

[@valeriedavot9074]

Seeing things like that from abroad makes it easy to understand why the US a declining so fast. This country is packed with religious nuts.

[@user-mi1kl2iv6p]

They know how to rake in the cash from the uneducated, which make up half the country. That's a lot of money.

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I lived in Europe for two years... visited England, France, Italy, beautiful little Luxembourg, The Netherlands and Belgium. Didn't encounter a single person asking me if I was a Christian or imposing their religious belief on me. How peaceful. I love and miss Europe.