Marvel Ruins Full Story

[@EldenJohn75]

I really love how the disease that Peter has makes his skin look similar to the classic suit. It’s so dark but genius

[@thepersonarider0972]

Huh. I never noticed that 😮

[@blix1ms0ns]

@@thepersonarider0972 it's just like earth X spiders man

[@DB-ny7nw]

And one of his hands try to do the whole web slinging thing.

[@AnisterStarlight]

@Grant Peralta And Wade Wilson.

[@fresherturtle1154]

Yeah

[@thatrealycoolguy]

If I may suggest a few: Deadpool’s origin causes him to be both in constant pain and unable to move. Squirrel girl is an old woman who talks to squirrels Howard the Duck is sideshow freak Luke Cage’s skin is unbreakable, but he also cannot move. His body is perfectly preserved Ant Man’s internal organs grew and he exploded from the inside

[@faaznoushad1718]

Antman died with Captain America and the Man with the Iron Chest (Iron Man) in the QuinJet.

[@SemISkUIZTheRaccoonSpider1st]

Ant-Man already died in the comic page.

[@MonteScarf]

Loki thought he was a master magician, and died during one of his acts

[@noahb9429]

Eddie brock goes into the space ship that has the symbiote, but it's starving to the point when it came into contact with Eddie it starts eating him from the outside.

[@alnu8355]

US Agent becomes Prof. X's Top Man to carry out federal policy. Without lessons from the real Captain America it gets real ugly, real quick. Assasinates the USSR's Collossus. Hank McCoy is let out of prison to lend his genius to Emma Frost's program. He effectively trades his soul and morality for survival. I'd rather do a punk antidote story in this universe but that'd defeat the point of this universe.

[@zedc6072]

I gotta say, Ruins feels like less of a serious 'what would be the worst case scenario for all of these characters' and just generally feels like a mean-spirited parody that isnt trying to say anything other than be misery

[@supremedreams6789]

It’s not saying anything at all, it’s literally just a death montage. You don’t take anything away from reading this. I don’t know how people say this is a well written story. To each his own I guess.

[@supremedreams6789]

ᴠᴇɴᴏᴍ ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʀᴏꜱᴇ Just because something is dark and realistic doesn’t mean that it’s well written. Because tell me, thematically, what does this story have going for it other than it being “dark and realistic?” What’s the deeper meaning or message that’s being conveyed to the audience beyond; Oh, Spider-Man and Wolverine wouldn’t exist in the real world because in reality, a radioactive spider would give someone a severe skin disease and the metal alloys of the Adamantium skeleton would rather kill someone than give them superpowers? Anyone can write a story that’s dark and realistic. However, that alone doesn’t make the story well written. Conceptually, I think ruins is pretty interesting. I just wish it had more going for it other than edginess and shock-value.

[@thomasraines1396]

ᴠᴇɴᴏᴍ ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʀᴏꜱᴇ or one guy waging war on all crime? He’s getting put down immediately.

[@crisla69]

The point of this is to show us to be hopeful and glad how we have it there is no light without darkness

[@isaiahbissue7102]

Okay so first of all this is like some emo kid's hate note to the rest of the world. Just senseless destruction and death poised Australian when actually that concept goes against the whole idea of comics. A place where our ideas come to life, where reality is different. Like another multiverse on it's own away from ours where laws are different and if you're still after our version of realism it is realistic after all our laws might not function normally exist in another. All this basically says is look every comic hater's rant come to life with some tiny facets of our reality's laws. I mean Bruce dying? Please. Remember how the Celestial experimented on earth? That also made certain for normal humans to have some sort of repository gene, basically something about them allowed for an easier evolutionary process or quickening which is why he didn't die now did Peter nor the fantastic four and allowed for mutants(i mean please wolverine has regenerative abilities that allows him to survive almost anything). I mean please. Wake up

[@smilingchip5192]

Peter Parker wasnt trying to get powers it was the same incident as 616 but it gave him that disease instead of powers. Another cool thing i noticed is the cracks on his body are supposed to resemble the web pattern on the spider-man costume

[@gandit]

And white eyes

[@unspeakableflame420]

I noticed that first thing I laid eyes on

[@mewtwo150clone]

I was not expecting a death montage. I was expecting a actual universe were heros lost and bad guys ruled

[@supremedreams6789]

Yeah, A death montage pretty much sums up this entire comic.

[@user-unos111]

"heroes lost and bad guys ruled" Wanted is the series you are looking for, then,

[@ryanlopez993]

3 words: Old man Logan

[@guidodurante9495]

There's a few stories like that already. Old Man Logan is pretty much that, but centered in the US from Logan's perspective. I didn't really like Ruins, but it is what it is. If it wasn't a death montage with tid bits of "what if this origin story went wrong", it would be like Zombies, Old Man Logan, etc. Meaning better writing, but focused on some particular perspectives, and more weight on the "how" and "why". This is just morbid violence.

[@aydenroman6329]

It's not a death montage, it's a universe with no hope, and full of cruelty and disaster, and honestly very realistic takes on what would happen to these people if they were exposed to the type of radiation that they were exposed to in 616

[@lordmichael751]

Pretty sure Galactis died cause silver surfer couldn't find him planets to eat.

[@Bluesit32]

Eh. He just needed to find a new herald.

[@kingbyrd.1512]

I love how galactus is BY MARS why did he not chow down on the red planet.

[@obasidavis1401]

It's possible but worse things happen to galactic before eaten by zombie Spider-Man and all the rest of the zombies

[@obasidavis1401]

Don't like once again for the millionth time on 800 50th Pine Galactus got hit from behind handed to him even if no one killed Galactus

[@miguelolandesca9342]

King Byrd. too dusty

[@TheManCone]

I imagine Galactus starved like the man who died of thirst in a desert within inches of an oasis.

[@travelerluke5748]

TheManCone Yo avengers 6?

[@justjohnny9780]

That was always my guess too.

[@TheManCone]

Robert Luke Yes so Yes but Tim Burton should direct I think he'd bring just the right amount of gloom to it.

[@xsanguine8]

The obvious consequence of your Herald flaking out on you. He may have also tried to feed on a dead world, but would that have poisoned him, or be like gorging on zero calorie food?

[@TheManCone]

RZ the lack of his ship would dictate that he abandoned it because it/he ran out of gas and probably did a hail Mary leap towards a tiny blue marble but was caught by mars gravity. Orbiting mars he probably did a few rotations glimpsing out at earth a glim torment his last sight would be of earth disappearing over the horizon of mars as he shuts his eyes for the last time.

[@JackNapierTM]

Murphy's Law: "Anything That Can Go Wrong, Will Go Wrong".

[@brandonsnyder9950]

Seems like Murphy was an optimist.

[@TheIdiotFr0102]

Christopher Marlowe lmao

[@TheIdiotFr0102]

Toxic Masculinity who?

[@TheIdiotFr0102]

Christopher Marlowe Milo Murphy, it’s a cartoon on Disney

[@lewisaino]

Even Murphy would say that is enough.

[@r3n3gad33]

If a Creepypasta writer wrote a Marvel story.

[@kshayes6935]

But it's not cheesy

[@SCP-dz5hw]

nah

[@cliff9887]

But it's written well

[@Theashyone]

jordan chase nah

[@ditobear]

It's kinda like "tragedy" story

[@crazybob7570]

They should call this the “Cancerverse”

[@Edsomthing]

Robert LaFlure oof

[@legoobi-wankenobi3080]

That's a thing.

[@galactusthehungry2681]

Cancerverse already exists, it’s a place where. Captain Marvell (Mar-Vell) removed death from that universe whilst going crazy as he’s dying of cancer - we see this in the thanos imperative series I think

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

I love the fact this is a thing, and is being called “the cancerverses”

[@mr.mlaststandsite813]

Call it the radiation-verse for some reason

[@noaboahQR]

Omg the art style with this man never disappoints

[@JDubbsIII]

This makes Flashpoint paradox look like a children’s fairytale

[@Theericafa]

JDubbsIII well In flashpoint the earth is destroyed so idk

[@highstreet2535]

krieg the beast earth being destroyed is kinda easy to digest than this, this is an example of the saying that there are worser things than death...

[@Theericafa]

High Street not in marvel where hela has your soul

[@joshuataylor6801]

Facts

[@ellbent]

But not the dark multiverse

[@lonelywolf5659]

You know what would have been funny if Deadpool was there and he has a good ending because he's already messed up.

[@justjohnny9780]

blade wind I think in this universe if he gained the power to regenerate he'd probably be used for inhumane medical experimentation trying to understand and reproduce the result with him being brushed off by researchers as being completely mad and detatched from reality as a result of the pain from studying him with Deadpool pleading the writer to let him die already or end the story.

[@AwesomeAusten]

Ok dude, this comment is just as messed up as the whole story but honestly I think you're right, thats how it would've turned out, I personally wanted to see how Moon Knight and Man-Thing would've been portrayed

[@justjohnny9780]

Awesome Austen Same here. There's tons of characters I'm curious about in this universe. MoonKnight I'd expect to be institusionalized due to his split personalities. Man-Thing is a good one I'm trying to think how things would go south for him. 🤔

[@AwesomeAusten]

Just Johnny yea you're right, Man-Thing is pretty difficult to think of how it could be "the worst of the worst" for him considering his situation is already pretty bad, maybe the "man" part would still be inside begging to get put but nobody can here him since he wouldn't be able to speak? Idk

[@justjohnny9780]

Awesome Austen I could see that happening.

[@richarddelasan7431]

Lol throughout the whole story, I was wondering “what happened to Spider-Man?”. Until I saw the part about what happened to him, I was like “oh naw”

[@miracon000fez]

i was suprised as well that was messed up

[@NefariousDreary]

I appreciate Ruins because it feels like Marvel's Hell universe. What I love the most about it is that the story acknowledges the fact that things aren't supposed to be that way, especially when the main character has a dream about the Marvels story.

[@DeadInside101]

I don't know why but I love Marvel Ruins. The Dark twisted version is just fascinating

[@kingflame81]

Exactly, it's what adds to its charm.

[@MatataMcCleskey]

Yeah like some sick twisted version of these campy characters.

[@LiveNiceness14]

Anti Social. Because it’s more realistic. I mean think about: A radioactive spider bites you. One of two things happens, you either die or die.

[@sonicmania6753]

As much I like it.....it just feels so weird

[@juliagoodwin3461]

I don’t care for the grimdark nihilism but I can’t help but find it fascinating...

[@SamZappo]

When Franklin Richards goes through his Emo phase.

[@thomasraines1396]

Nah this is the work of Mad Jim Jaspers.

[@fella9921]

Bro, This has seriously messed me up

[@AntiPeoplePersons]

Lmao

[@lolno6015]

Nice

[@justfasboo1281]

😮

[@feathero3]

Without dark you can't have light. Stories like this help you appreciate what you have. Both in real life and in our Marvel universe.

[@onigames7309]

Yep.

[@theninjalegendsgaming4257]

Preach man preach

[@starbustergaming5651]

Nice speech

[@graintrain1284]

There's a paradox here because you said if is no dark there is no light but if there is no light there is only dark

[@feathero3]

@@graintrain1284 That's not a paradox, it's the same thing only backwards. And it's also true.

[@pjincho]

The flaming head of ghost rider turning out to be just a fluke incident wherein Johnny blaze set his head on fire as a stunt reminds me of how cleverly Nolan integrated DC tropes, and mythos into the dark knight trilogy. I love how two-face was a villain for a day.

[@georglieber2158]

So they made a “lost episode” creepypasta with marvel characters... why tho?

[@madafaka216]

why not?

[@ericzhang1515]

@Elijah Baker I agree

[@GuessWhatHappened1]

Scarlet Snitch

[@Oscar-is-dope-af]

She used her magic to become 6ix9ine

[@Margaretha-y4r]

Scarlet Bitches

[@NP-zv4bf]

Hudson Shaw 💀💀💀💀💀

[@poiuytrewq11422]

Honestly, I can see why California tried to seperate. I mean, Xavier is either dead and being used as a figure head so the government can take full control, or he's gone completely off the deep end. Either way, Id be all for a new country ran by Captain America and Ironman (Though he's known as The man in The Iron mask in this) if I were in this situation. But Cap would need to be renamed Captain California.

[@-Trauma.]

What about The Purple Man as President of the United States? That would have been better...

[@arx3516]

And change his costume into swim trunks and a floreal shirt with a bear logo on the back, and the shield is replaced with a surfing board.

[@Ceyx000]

Xavier's still alive and Pres. at the time. Fisk says X visits them in Texas. He's totally off the deep end. Too bad they all get blown up in the Quinjet.

[@dylansmith5206]

I don't think Captain America was a part of the Avengers in this story. Given how everything in this story goes. It's likely Steve Rogers either died after Super Soilder experiment (With it going wrong and poisoning his body). Died during one of battles in War World 2 itself. Or would have likely died while him and Bucky where defusing that one bomb plane and and thrown into the Pacific Ocean. Like seriously. Him being alive in Ruins and being apart of The Avengers would make no freaking sense whatsoever.

[@inspector5122]

@@Ceyx000 I think his mutant mind powers gave him severe mental illness

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Cut to Thanos and Deadpool, hugging each other, huddled in a corner, and crying in each other's arms.

[@victorguerra9778]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache for the 20eth time ,how.are.you.everywhere.I.go!

[@zamen7545]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache but i saw on the tfs nuzlock

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

I'll have you know, sir, that I am the original fucking loser and my retardation is genuine!

[@jaidendocwra6634]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache there is only one moustached guy on KZbin and he just watches the same good shit I do

[@janiesrobinson350]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache why are people so triggered that you watch the same videos that they do?

[@HalfDecentTrashCollection2001]

"Ruins is a worst-case situation for Marvel" I mean, there's also Marvel Zombies...

[@TheMetastasia]

Honestly, having fucking Zombie Ant-Man flying like a godlike creature through space and trying the snacking on your ass is a lovecraftian level of horror.

[@shadowlq5366]

Marvel zombies it's even funny sometimes Ruins is almost like reality and there's nothing more scarier than the real world

[@mistermoon9305]

Nah. This is way worse.

[@Margaretha-y4r]

Its actually if physics met fiction

[@Edsomthing]

Cobra Commander but they have a happy ending in zombies sooo

[@simonpage3572]

Well Then... this is... Great... Why in gods name was this created... and what the hell do you people think happened to Electra, Sentry, and Colossus...

[@ironmaster6496]

This....i regrer watching honestly XD. I want to think that my man Colossus doesnt exists in this universe or that he is safae somehow. About Sentry maybe it happenned the same thing as in canon (He being insane and all that)

[@SSJ8Goku]

And Doctor Strange. Seriously, the guy deals with Lovecraftian horrors on a occasional basis. Strange failing to keep some eldritch horror from coming into the universe should've been the grand finale of Ruins. Just have it put out their misery by some eldritch being gobbling it up.

[@NEARReiCtor8799]

ironmaster64 I like to think Asgard is completely safe. deadpool and colossus are safe.

[@kid.hudson_]

@@SSJ8Goku Strange died in the Avenjet

[@Mrspiderman20014]

@@kid.hudson_ Actually, nobody knows what happened to him in this comic.

[@sanddry738]

This is an interesting “what if” story but it seems more of a depressing story based on real world logic rather than comic book logic. Jarring I think is a good word for it.

[@user-unos111]

Less "real world logic" and more "murphy's law" logic.

[@someguy4003]

You should listen to batman earth 1, its pretty realistic minus the incredibly disturbing timeline

[@danielr6302]

@@user-unos111 well hulk is an example of that. He likely would have just died. Quicksilver is actually quite realistic though.

[@reggiebell7291]

@@danielr6302 what would be realistic is that is just a really fast person, but not superhuman speeds.

[@carlosjavier771]

@@user-unos111 based

[@bacsilva]

I think Ruins is a window to an universe in which Marvel got Snyder to run the MCU.

[@deazy6453]

B. Catão Yeah. Stupid.

[@deazy6453]

Astro Boy No. He implied that this a cool concept, but horrible delivery. However, based on a lot of the trash that Marvel has been putting out for comics, you probably aren't far off. They need help.

[@LordMichaelRahl]

Lmao.

[@jayzonedc6474]

Astro Boy Swing and a miss

[@Bazzieh]

Scott Snyder or Zack Snyder?

[@ViktorStClair]

Tony Stark actually was trying to calm the situation down when he got clipped by a shrapnel from the National Guard in this story. That's how he became Iron Man.

[@deviousj5868]

Man this is brutal! Thanos take the wheel!! Snap this WHOLE universe out of existence. 🤣

[@ingamingpc1634]

I agree this whole universe needs to reboot

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

Devious J for all we know thanos is either dead or something messed up happening to him too. I don’t even want to know what he is like in this universe.

[@Margaretha-y4r]

I mean he can go to earth and just die by any means

[@SmollBrainArtist]

YES

[@sethleoric2598]

I think in this universe, Thanos just fucking dies because of how dangerous the infinity gems are

[@kevinjbeast4930]

I rewatched this the other day which means it took me 2 years to realize the main character died from being bitten by a radioactive spider-man.

[@thomasraines1396]

Not really bitten he just shook hands with Peter who passed on his disease.

[@SuckySmiley]

Spider man can one shot confirmed?

[@blakmajik1377]

PERSON: The marvel universe isn't dark enough and is for children Warren Ellis: HOLD my beer PERSON: OH DEAR GOD WHY WHY WHY

[@daimonhampton]

jason moore Person: joe stop him ! Stop him now Joe Quesada: warren scares we...um...just let him do stuff and put it out of continutiy.

[@aidanpriddy7393]

Hmmmmm let make this and marvel zombies ONE THING called marvel gone mad XD

[@james89302]

daimon hampton WHY, WHY, WHY didn't you do this sooner?

[@donroseanderson4524]

HULK NOOOOOOOOO! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

[@capmar-vell92returns20]

Still Ellis is not as grimdark as Pat Mills or Garth Ennis. Those two really hate superheroes.

[@yaboiguts1887]

I have some kind of theory of what happened to Magneto in this story: he started as the normal Magneto who wanted to kill all homo sapiens, but how older he got the less control over his powers he had. He found this out in time, hence the restriction machine

[@justjohnny9780]

yaoi fan That's a sound theory considering if his powers had always been out of control he'd of probably been killed long ago from all the collateral damage his powers would cause.

[@therealmr.incredible3179]

I got a better one Charles Xavier Was like the one in the 616 Universe, Taking care of Mutants and doing his best to Teach them. But then.....Everything Fell Apart. The professors had a lot of Difficulties teaching mutants how to control their powers. A bunch of them died. One of the Mutants accidentally gave Magneto a brain hemorrhage and Charles Trying to help Magneto somehow messed up and ‘poisoned’ his personality. And then.. . He came for all of them. He cut them up. He trapped and teased them.

[@somedudenamedralph9083]

or what if he tried making himself stronger for wanting to take down someone or to control the world but and it worked but it just went beyond his control.

[@michaelgarza3743]

@@therealmr.incredible3179 I have a better one. Why is Gamora!?

[@eatingtimechris3902]

​@@justjohnny9780 yyyyy😮 Yyyyyuyyy yyyyyyyy😮y😮yyyyyyyyy 18:04

[@ms.anthropia]

This comic left me traumatized he first time I read it. But after revisiting it, I just couldn't help but to keep reading. Warren Ellis did such a phenomenal job with this "Murphy's Law" storyline.

[@JoeEnglandShow]

I always liked the implication that it came down to Been, and his decision not to fly. It might not make sense in the surface, since things seem to have been screwed up for decades in the Ruins timeline... except that the Fantastic Four we're time travelers. Been was even a pirate, remember? So my guess is that the lack of the Four had ramifications up and down that version of history.

[@hectorrocha5521]

This mini-series really scarred me as a kid, tho now as an adult looking back at it, I can appreciate as a alternative worst case scenario in the marvel universe. Also, I remember thinking to myself that since Marvel is owned by Disney, they probably will never allow them to adapt this storyline, but now with the animated What If? show being a thing, a season 2 being confirmed, and the fact they partially adapted Marvel Zombies, who knows if they might adapted it in a potential episode.

[@falcolord8404]

I honestly hate how tragic and messed up storylines like this are

[@ratman7212]

I actually like it I enjoy dark stuff I don't like perfect endings thats why I SPOILERS FOR ENDGAME I really liked how they killed Iron Man

[@averagebat761]

@@ratman7212 kinda weird but ight

[@jarretttomlin4254]

@@averagebat761 how? Its boring seeing the heros always winning or surviving yes ik that sounds edgey but a new twist in hero comics (Dc, specially marvel sense they dont do this a whole lot) is cool an refreshing

[@scr0ngle108]

@@jarretttomlin4254 yeah but it's even more boring to just see people constantly die

[@collinkhan4163]

Marvel ruins: like Flashpoint, but somehow even more depressing!

[@rahmanmoncatar9675]

Oh god XD

[@the_rose_garden01]

DC fanboys be like "Flashpoint was way worse because the earth was destroyed!"

[@the_rose_garden01]

@black manta I love DC myself, but you gotta admit this is way darker

[@ironmaster6496]

Flashpoint was dark, but there was still some hope, GOOD superheroes were still and the only one whos life was really fucked up was Superman. But this is just hopeless horror where everybody is miserable

[@youtube_commenter04]

@black manta He would snap twice.

[@Stephenc35753]

not gonna lie, I laughed my ass off at galactus just floating in space lol

[@onigames7309]

He looks more like he's vibing rather than dead.

[@DannyGamerXD48]

*Galactus was not the imposter..*

[@Senator-Wary]

Dabbing in space dead

[@zamasu9396]

Nawl that ghost rider scene made me laugh

[@1ekinu398]

bro went to the Astro World

[@chrisahearn789]

Also captain American was driven insane by the super soldier serum and became a cannibal

[@thekingslayer1831]

The whole story was beautifully painted. I love the art.

[@ianmason6867]

Phil Sheldon was the POV character from the Marvels Mini Series. That's why he was used here to parallel the grandness of that version.

[@Sonic546416]

The big thing I wanted to know was...what possibly killed galactus? I mean...for him to just be floating around mars like some sort of space debris, you would think he either died of starvation...or...maybe something stronger came along... Remember, those pictures show that he was an extremely short distance from mars, and his speed to get to earth was immense...that is two planets he could have eaten, so I am ruling out starvation here...but what just kills a freaking planet buster and walks away!?!

[@ylussjoel]

He died due to starvation because there was no silver surfer to help him find planets to eat.

[@TheStrokeStroker]

​@@ylussjoelhe died right next to a planet why not eat the planet

[@randomtwitchuser455]

He needs people and energy in the planet thats why he needed silver surfer​@@TheStrokeStroker

[@jhawkes89]

This is honestly how I picture mutants/superhero's starting to emerge without the shield of our they're new and flawless with the addition of their powers. I always thought mutants would emerge having massive flaws that not only hurt themselves but those around them. I wish I had more time to read these different kind of story lines because this is amazing to me.

[@DR.SLAMMER]

9:20 Hulk if he were a Dark Souls boss

[@wyattrussell7496]

I want to see a marvel series where the hero’s are actually villains and everyone praises them because of propaganda. The powerless people who stand by and watch are the only ones who can see it but they don’t have any power to fight it. Spider-Man would be the greatest villain. He’s basically the dark web.

[@leonidasbobland9164]

Have you seen 'the boys"

[@cthulhubecausewhynot1182]

So literally just “The Boys”?

[@raycom201]

God that sounds like a really bad and forced fanfiction

[@wyattrussell7496]

@@raycom201 Thanks. I just think Spider-Man would be an interesting villain. Mostly from the eerie mess he would leave from his web shooter.

[@raycom201]

Wyatt Russell hah yeah. Sorry for being mean

[@RichardAcevedo2814]

This is seriously so random... I had just started reading it a few days ago and finished it yesterday... Then actually found this on my feed today. Craziness.

[@harmonicartist]

This is the unique perspective into a “What if” story that I didn’t imagine I ever wanted to see.

[@Replica_Rabbit]

So, in that universe, the Celestials mess up human's DNA?

[@harbl99]

The Celestials are all dead, presumably of space cancer. Prime Minister Batman Ellis commands it.

[@unlimited-edge]

As interesting as this reality is, it still feels like it was written by a 14 yr old going through a phase after getting grounded from his Xbox

[@fakeuber8254]

It just feels so damn edgy to me

[@dannynattis4460]

Maybe deep down inside you’re the 14yr going through a phase, appreciate the art

[@Mars-oe5if]

@@fakeuber8254 It's not really edgy, it's realistic marvel universe, and the purpose of this AU is to show how heroes we wish were real would most likely turn out.

[@darthgames3]

@@fakeuber8254 The premise is simple: "What if everything went wrong in the Marvel universe"? How did you expect that to NOT be edgy?

[@bulletsunderpressure]

@@Mars-oe5if The writer thought this was a morbid comedy, realism has nothing to do with it.

[@The_Republic_of_Ireland]

This comic series gave me PTSD for about a week, it was so disturbing

[@matthewl2036]

pupp3tmaster. VER10 that happen to me but for marvel zombies

[@hazelnoot4122]

Lmao i couldn't sleep for days cuz of this and marvel zombies

[@Xozo.11]

@@hazelnoot4122 Ikr I can't imagine Marvel Zombies

[@abdullayaser700]

@TMPanos96 read "'the wicked "

[@papetogaming]

@@polymerproduct_spTh this isn't a good reason to depressed lol. Hahaha, this is the best thing Marvel gave out and it gave me pure excitement on why Marvel is so great.

[@undecidedgenius]

I like Ruins when it came out...but I always wanted to know about the villains too

[@Mrspiderman20014]

we do know about the villains, magneto's powers were uncontrollable and killed him, dr. doom went up with reed and the other fantastic 4 minus ben and took ben's place, enchantress is an adult movie star, kingpin is a warden that mistreats the mutants who are there against their will, and red skull likely became a cannibal, galactus died only a short distance from earth and silver surfer ripped his chest out trying to breath air.

[@undecidedgenius]

no: I guess your right, they did have a few...but I was hoping for one mainly based on the villains. I could picture the rhino to be even more screwed up than before, electro stuck to the wires where he got his power from, continually giving off energy for years...still alive...oh and than clock and dagger.... Anyways, I think it would have been an area to dive into with ruins, if they wanted to continue the series. However, I know when it was out, very few people actually knew about the series because it wasn't widely publicized and only some stores had that series (I found out about it just by chance) On top of that, it took a very long time to get that second issue out (if I remember correctly, it was over 5 months) So not much chance of a part 2

[@Mrspiderman20014]

It kinda had more of an unsettling feeling when it was focused on the *heroes* because these guys were the ones we root for and relate to, seeing someone as heroic and willing to put their life on the line for others against all odds just get absolutely shit on was a little traumatizing and that's what they were going for, the villains are mostly assholes so we wouldn't feel as impacted, which is probably why they mostly showed heroes, but the downside is that the entire story is based around subversing the superhero genre so it doesn't do anything with the amazingly interesting world that they made.

[@pleasantox7655]

That was painful

[@warlordsquerk5338]

Yeah I'm not sure what the appeal is. I was curious but I'm glad I didn't buy it. This is not something I'd like to have said I bought.

[@phoenixfritzinger9185]

From all the edge And I thought that ultimatum was bad

[@mrvizcarrondo]

Basically it’s a warning that super powers won’t be as sexy or as glamorous as other writers portray them

[@jacobdavis6056]

Unless of course your a one if the sexy female superheros thennyou can be a adult actor

[@juliagoodwin3461]

And this is why reality sucks.

[@surreal-riley]

Yes the story may not be very well written and could be explained as nothing more than a death montage for all our favourite heroes but I’d be lying if I wouldn’t love to see more of this universe and other heroes and villains within it just to see how dark it could really become. And not every heroes bad ending would necessarily have to be death or being gruesomely disfigured example being you could have the heart shaped herb still give t’challa the powers of the black Panther but instead of being the noble king he normally is turn him into an unforgiving dictator who uses his increased strength, agility and endurance to stay in power and control his people Edit: the thing I wouldn’t want is for the story to simply be bad guys won good guys lost, yes that story can still be dark but it could also easily still be comic book fun by having both good and bad guys be twisted and dark it makes this universe really seem like it’s in ruins as there’s no hope for anyone

[@mistermoon9305]

Welp. Thanks for the depression and pain. This story sucked all the joy from my brain for a solid week.

[@KiSwordsman]

You wanna know more about this universe? what is there to learn? Everybody who has ever developed any form of ability is screwed beyond any level of imagination. Having Powers is far more of a curse than it is a blessing. Just a plain nightmare scenario for everyone.

[@duncannslade]

"It's a Warren Ellis sto-" Stop right there. I've heard enough. We're all doomed.

[@mynegaims]

Cyril Makwembere is his stories usually that depressing and bad??

[@harbl99]

Ministry of Space had a... relatively upbeat ending. If you don't look too close. Global Frequency, Switchblade Honey (What If? Dan Dare/a Star Trek captain were played by Ray Winstone at his most gloriously fouth-mouthed cockney geezer), and even Transmetropolitan weren't completely depressing. Orbital and Planetary were superficially grimdark, but hopeful under the veneer. Two Step was downright cheerful, unless you're a small car when Ron's around ("I'm Ron. I shag stuff. Until it goes boom!"). Don't ask about Black Gas, Black Summer, No Hero, Angel Stomp Future, or Supergod though.

[@jungkinoid8706]

What are you talking about? Ellis' Moon Knight and Nextwave are incredible. Nextwave is incredibly lighthearted and Moon Knight is just badass through and through.

[@captainomega6315]

Just read this story a few days ago this shit is heart breaking man 😢😭

[@cb-9938]

This version of marvel would be amazing even just referenced in multiverse of madness, I know it wont but it would be nice too see the MCU version of this, thors hammer being like a meteor and killing people, cap never being found in the ice, tony never fixed the palladium anything that would be closer to reality

[@At0micWh1skey]

Bet ur disappointed

[@At0micWh1skey]

I wanna know if u cried when seeing the movie. I did.

[@lepotato135]

Man, I was so excited to hear about mystique untill she died. 😭

[@aryan7767]

yeah she lived so long till adulthood and died on a random plane lmaoo

[@LUISPRIME]

Ruins is so dark. You're sure it not from the DC Universe? As Deadpool would say. Also Rick Jones played the harmonica not the banjo.

[@hunchojack2614]

THERES DARKER SHYT IN MARVEL TRUST AN BELIEVE DONT BELIEVE IN THE HYPE

[@Silentmissile]

HUNCHO JACK can you tell me more

[@joneshugh]

Also any alternate Marvel story: Marvel Zombies,Earth X, some What-if stories, The Last Avengers story.

[@-Trauma.]

@@hunchojack2614 Remember in Old Man Logan, how the Hulk forced She-Hulk into birthing a bunch of his babies, also he took over the entire South Western United States...?

[@watchmy666]

President X

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Watch My 666 Cue the X-Men Intro from the 90s Animated Series.

[@watchmy666]

UnexpectedWonder lmfao

[@akealiihall7251]

DO THE FULL THING,EVERY DETAIL. THIS IS AWESOME, there needs to be a ruins 2

[@drakeevans8042]

There needs to be a sequel want do you think a ruins version of Ultron would be

[@Immortalshortie]

@@drakeevans8042 A computer virus instead of a robot

[@DioStandsStill]

I think there won't be a sequel cuz now everybody died thanks to our spidey i guess

[@Immortalshortie]

@@DioStandsStill It could be set in a different Earth for the sequel, i'm even writing my own fan fic.

[@DioStandsStill]

@@Immortalshortie but ya know if marvel make this a film yo i'm up to it!!!!

[@calamorta]

It's so twisted and dark that it becomes good and interesting to read. It makes you keep reading since you know it's not your generic good guy x bad guy story.

[@cinders5305]

Ruins summarized. Everyone died. The end.

[@luisalbertoarenasaraya4579]

You forgot in horrible ways.

[@juliagoodwin9510]

That didn't help at all...!

[@JIreland1992]

Fun fact. This is a parody on the book marvels right? Well I once saw a trade that collected both those stories called marvels compendium I think it was, and for some reason ruins was the one they showed on the cover. You can’t make that shit up.

[@GeminiMoto]

Is it just me or is ruins basically how things would really happen in real life, and the homie Sheldon is Stan Lee

[@bennybarrios7822]

That's the point of the comic actually.

[@moondodger5952]

I noticed that Peter Parker’s rashes kinda became his “webbing”

[@trickster3696]

Reed and Franklin rebuilding the multiverse: you know what, let's let this one stay gone.

[@derekpayneszubliminals7723]

Imagine what Reed and Franklin Richard would have reacted to what happened to the members of the Fantastic Four or would have been the Fantastic Four?

[@lewisaino]

@@derekpayneszubliminals7723 Even the Creator would go wtf .

[@sammysamiam5219]

I liked this story but I think it should have ended with Galactus eating earth 🌏 so everyone dies

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

Sammy Sam I am Really, that’s an overused plot point in Marvel that it’s practically a cliché. Moreover, it has no substance. “Oh, Galactus showed up, destroyed the planet, and now all of humanity is dead.” What then? The rest of the universe keeps on keepin’ on. It may not be as exciting or initially impactful as Galactus destroying the world. But, in my opinion, it is lingering and more meaningful to destroy human society morally and culturally and leave what’s left to wallow in the bleak squalor they themselves created.

[@sammysamiam5219]

Breeze Cornelius ok I’m sorry 😨 I just thought having galactus die for no reason was a waste of a cool character

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

Sammy Sam I am Oh, no. I agree. Galactus was absolutely wasted in this comic. I just don't think that having him destroy the planet would have been any more pleasing to read or thematically congruent with the rest of the story's tone.

[@justjohnny9780]

I think his death being published is like a weekly world news headline.

[@Jayfive276]

Can confirm that far too many alternate universe stories end with Galtactus turning up.

[@ArgentoLives1610]

Why would you do this Rob?!? - you once brought up Ruins in a video. So I found it. And it ruined ME. RIP me all over again.

[@veganbodybuilding]

In this version I believe someone of (reality warping) Mad Jim Jaspers abilities affected the earth...possibly the universe? Galactus was probably destroyed using the ultimate nullifier (maybe by the watcher driven mad as they'd be within the sphere of Jaspers or whomever else has power of that level in this universe? Obviously a reality warper can affect powers and origins as they occur...the why is probably (in their warped minds) they are making things better? It would be interesting to see how that universe develops and if heroes eventually arose to fight back?

[@greyvex8135]

Wow, you just turned something completely uninteresting into something I would like to see play out.

[@justjohnny9780]

veganbodybuilding I'd kill to see that as a follow up to Ruins!

[@BPoe07]

Or, maybe it's simpler than that. :) Maybe 10,000 years ago, in setting, everything was going to turn out the right way, until a Mad Titan, a Deviant, showed up wanting to win the affections of Death Herself. So in the beginning, Thanos has no choice but to start small, since Infinity Stones are hard to find. So what does he do? He sets out to render half the universe irrelevant. Weak and powerless, too useless to live. Thanos takes the Stones he has--Power and Reality--and fuses them together, forcibly, so hard that they both BREAK. The good news is: they're Infinity Stones, they don't stay broken for long. The AWFUL news is: they also have a mind of their own, and the memory of the suffering they went through together essentially forces Power and Reality, as entities, to refuse all contact with one another. And so Infinity itself starts to waste away as the embodiment of an existence where the real and living _cannot be powerful,_ and where the everlasting and powerful _can't be alive, or exist._ The weird news is: Thanos dies, but Death still doesn't want the bum. And so it goes, there's now a hollow, empty glove adrift in the universe, with a feeble poltergeist attached to it, moaning over his lost love. . . and too weak to do anything about it.

[@darianjade5661]

It said "God found dead in space" But that's not Stan Lee

[@Noname-om3pp]

That didn't age well...

[@josephchandler7140]

@@Noname-om3pp f

[@iskandar7354]

@@Noname-om3pp yep, F

[@juliagoodwin3461]

_...Akward..._

[@tommarly1349]

Rip he will be remembered

[@Rinari034]

This story reminds me of that one Batman story: Arkham A Serious House on a Serious Earth, but more and more depressing and creepy but that art and those twisted moments man especially Hulk in this universe, my nightmares are on full tilt rn lmao

[@luisalbertoarenasaraya4579]

In my pov at least Serious House left s type of moral.

[@aryan7767]

at least Arkham a serious house on a serious earth had a really good point and a very emotional ending.

[@lewisaino]

@@aryan7767 Yeah, Ruins is like when they lost Copy Right and want to off every Char.

[@remyblas]

So this is kinda like Ultimatum, but not so poorly written?

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I dunno it still is pretty bad

[@rahmanmoncatar9675]

Yup

[@thattypicalslimy8548]

*written even shittier. At least ultimatum had that Captain America/Thor team up.

[@ironmaster6496]

At least Ultimatum had SOME kind of story, this is literally just a Zoo trip to see who of your favourite heroes has a more fucked up life and death. As a world is interesting but as story is pretty bad. Coincidently they both ended in an anti climatic way

[@thattypicalslimy8548]

@Kevin Byrnes that's true, say what you want about the mcu, but at least the treat Strange with more respect than ultimatum.

[@anthonyhall5238]

damnn the art in this looks dark , amzing vid Rob u should do a video on Alex Ross's Justice story

[@Naeem_El]

So basically what would happen in real life lol and yes this is very depressing

[@Naeem_El]

shurednichso totally agree with you

[@hattheduck2359]

more like what would happen if it's edgy

[@justjohnny9780]

Seeing how horrible things went down in this universe makes me appreciate the other universes all the more.

[@Naeem_El]

Zen Pool yes very true

[@pickedceasar1216]

hat the duck no that's marvel knights and marvel max. This is horror and what would happen if the realism was cranked up a bit.

[@franciscoayala2348]

This story really keeps me up man I'd love a mini series explains more they left so much open

[@fathertoop4659]

12:16 Everything that happened to the mutans was all of President X's doing, except Kitty's attempted escape which she did herself. Cyclops had his eye taken out after he accidentally killed his family, and Quicksilver had to have his limbs cut off because he was too fast. It's basically a mutant prison, but the mutants are mutilated so that they can't use the powers they have.

[@brandenapexo604]

I like the dark tone but a lot of it is bad shit for no reason why would Tchalla be locked up in prison he’s the head of state of a nation there’s no way, why is Galactus just dead for no reason does Wolverine not have his healing factor anymore? It’s just dark for the sake of dark there’s no reason behind it

[@TheHolyFox123]

Thats literally the point. Its amazing how just the slightest twinge of added realism completely destroys these characters. Yeah quicksilver can move at super human speed, but his body isnt designed to. Yeah johnny storm catches on fire, but only once. Its a nice little switch up and its not like a permanent continuity change or anything.

[@talentlessartist7929]

edgyness is not "realism"@@TheHolyFox123

[@TheHolyFox123]

Abraham Mireles its not blatant edginess. Nice buzz word tho, really adds to the conversation

[@rumham9012]

I agree with the black panther stuff, but galactus probably died because silver surfer wasn’t around to find him planets to eat, and the wolverine one makes complete sense. He was a test subject, this is the worst case scenario of the experiments

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

R U M H A M Black Panther joined a Radical Group that commuted various crimes in the 60s and 70s

[@deadpilled2942]

My friends used to think I was lying about this book existing when I was in school. I really loved this story

[@005Turk]

Marvel ruin is on par with the real world in terms of what could go wrong

[@BPoe07]

Not really. Study some probability. The deal is that things have to work out somewhere, some of the time, for somebody. Just like they have to fail, somewhere, some of the time, for someone. It's as equally improbable and unrealistic to expect EVERYTHING to go wrong, as it is for anyone to expect EVERYTHING to go right. In Marvel Ruins bumblebees can't even fly, because they don't, because that went wrong too. Airplanes don't work because the Wright Brothers died in a crash at Kitty Hawk. That also went wrong. Fruits and veggies don't prevent malnutrition because vitamins? They don't work either. See what I mean? There's a point beyond which saying "everything goes wrong" becomes a joke. It starts to become nonsensical. Here's the kicker: you can say the same thing in reverse, about things going right. And people at Marvel Editorial have this horrid habit of taking concepts from their high-end mini-series (Marvels, the two Earth-X series) and applying them all over the place to the comics. So. . . expect lots of unexpected defeats and deaths. Or at least ones not predicted by the usual model of "We can't use him/her in a Disney Movie so let's screw him/her Extra Hard, No Lube. We'll call it 'taking a harder science fiction approach' or something."

[@ms.anthropia]

It does reflect on a lot of social issues, yeah. That's why I loved the book.

[@leslieandrews9208]

There is a problem with everything going right, you got nothing interesting to write about, except for the day to day life of some somewhat interesting people day to day life.

[@thatcomicguy964]

Adem Whitney no it's worse

[@StunttManZ]

BPoe07 bro..no lol this is exactly what would happen if superheroes popped up.

[@dansoloskywalkerproduction4329]

Marvel:😊👍 Ruins:😥😱😭

[@lucini7]

Drug dealer: Hey Sheldon, you,ve been stressed at work lately. Try this new cigarette, it'll calm you down. It's totally safe. Sheldon: Ok, thanks. I'm righting another article for the bugle tonight, nothing too fancy or dangerous. That night after Sheldon had a smoke:

[@benjaminkellog7311]

I've been interested in the "What If" side of the Marvel multiverse lately; it's weird how so many of those stories involve familiar characters dying like flies, only for there to be some kind of happy resolution or closure at the end bringing everything back to the classic status quo or close approximation thereof. Given there had to be some people wanting "true realism" to permeate at least one tale in this vein, "Ruins" was practically inevitable. When I read the Wikipedia page for this bad boy, I was salivating! I'm a big fan of "Marvels" and always wanted more in that style ("Eye of the Camera" and "The Marvels Project" steered away from what I desired, unfortunately), so even if it's a dystopian take, I would gladly welcome this one onto my shelf.

[@jacobyanez576]

Rob, this is by far one of your best videos! Love the work you do!

[@techniquerules]

tchalla, the king of wakanda, joined the black panthers and ended up in prison? I get that they were going for worst case scenarios but god thats lazy/stupid

[@justjohnny9780]

techniquerules Was he still King in this story? It's been a long time since I've read it. Considering that everything goes to Hell from the start yeah I agree it feels like a lazy write off of his character. I think a better take would have been him becoming drunk with power and being a violent, merciless warlord using Wakanda's advanced technology to conquer other countries expanding Wakanda's reach or being deposed by the populace and becoming a fugitive.

[@RetroExhibitCollective]

techniquerules I’m thinking he wasn’t a hero at all, he just some guy in a band or group. Like how Matt Murdock (daredevil) never actually was daredevil. He died as a kid and that’s it. So a lot of this changes the back story on these characters

[@waldenotwalled5783]

Straight Busta How can it be a leftist shithole when Republicans are in control of almost all of the US government?

[@heartbust4624]

Performapal Monkeyboard Many "Republicans" aren't quite what they say they are

[@NebRetalsJr]

Performapal Monkeyboard “Republicans” haven’t been the party of the middle class for 30 years. There IS no party for regular working people anymore. It’s either minimum wage Bernie trash or corrupt Wall Street cheap illegal immigration labor trash. Which is why people voted for trump, because he was a fuck you to the right even more so than the left. Most people I know that voted for him guessed he would be a train wreck. And we’re grown up enough to know the president doesn’t actually have that much power.

[@shawnswint1521]

You Know Eric Forman from That 70's Show had a saying that would perfectly describe this story ''WOW...WOW''.

[@datboi7160]

Even if this was an on going series, there's no real plot. Its just seeing how every character dies or does die a horrific death.

[@DeathWard187]

I like the art style they used. It teminds me of some of the heavy metal comic stories ive read.

[@eliandervalderen5849]

I remember reading that story. And it seems almost as if being Grim's realism is pessimism that prevented him from going up with Reed Richards and the others was the Turning Point a crack in the lens so that everything instead of being magnified just right was warped and distorted. Ben Grimm even says as much. during his interview

[@Malfoy264]

Yea basically said "everything that can go wrong, does goes wrong"

[@davidrw61]

If I remember my 616 history correctly, it was Susan Storm who actually persuaded Grimm to pilot the craft (by referring to "the Commies", no less). Implicitly, Richards didn't bring her along in this version.

[@eliandervalderen5849]

@@davidrw61 I never actually read the first issues of the Fantastic Four they never had them at my local library

[@davidrw61]

@@eliandervalderen5849 I had the paperback reprint of the first 6 issues that came out in the 70's.

[@davidrw61]

Edit: the paperback came out in the 70's. (Not the first 6 issues....)

[@deazy6453]

I don't get why Quicksilver would lose his limbs. If he can run that fast, then obviously his body is already tempered for it, otherwise he simply would not move that fast (which also means he should have some sort of super strength, but whatever). Same with a lot of these deaths. Sure, it's interesting, but some of this is quite flimsy.

[@DevinSpeaks]

Darryl Jones Jr. No person can run that fast without tearing themselves apart in real life

[@ChickenScratchComedy]

Zane : it isn't real life though.

[@deazy6453]

Zane : Exactly, dude. But if he were to get superpowers that allow him to move at superspeed, then he would have to have super strength and many other things going for him that would not allow his body to fail him. You feel me? It's like the Flash, and how he can hit about as hard as Superman.

[@DevinSpeaks]

ChickenScratchComedy thats the point in marvel ruins all these deaths seem to be more realistic than regular marvel none of these heroes could possibly survive what they went through

[@ChickenScratchComedy]

Zane : I can name characters who are speedsters that DON'T use speed force though

[@dls1970]

I laughed throughout this entire thing... if I would have just read it by myself, it wouldn't have elicited the reaction the way Rob gives us the story with so much surprise and emotion...loved this!!! :D

[@arielrichardson9436]

Same here, when I first heard of this version of Marvel, I couldn't help but laugh, I thought it was so funny 😆🤣

[@subhi_sadiyev]

Where did you get the idea that Quicksilver lost his arms and legs due to friction?

[@juanvillicana816]

I've read this comic book many years ago. It's pretty much a parody of Marvels. This comic-book it's pretty much Warren Ellis giving the middle-finger towards Kurt Busiek.

[@MrMike11233]

Jean Grey....say it ain't so!

[@hydroking2969]

I will not go

[@joneshugh]

Not to the John's she's not ;-)

[@NebRetalsJr]

Pizza Pineapple love Turn the lights off......

[@h2ojr1]

9:20 i think that version of the hulk is a reference to Cu Chulainn. The more realistic hulking out hero of Irish folklore; Eye popping out of his socket, bones contorting, and becoming more of hideous monster rather than a bigger stronger man fits the bill.

[@pyrolee17]

Meanwhile the Watcher is just watching all this with an endless supply of snacks. There are many watchers through the multiverse, but this is the one the others dont want to be away, because hes the one that always want to show them some messed up stuff.

[@hellothere3001]

Here's how'd I'd ruin some avengers Steve Rogers takes the super solider serum but dies (maybe a overdose) Bruce Banner was vaporized by that gamma radiation Iron Man's suit failed to function correctly and either crush him to death or something else like explode Thor dies from being crushed by a frost giant or something Black widow killed on a shield mission

[@shaunstorey23]

I feel like that would be of the avengers existed irl, this is like a Murphy's law universe

[@LePetitVicomte]

The art of Terese Nielsen and her husband is astounding. Anything you see in comics just pales in comparison. Even though the stories repeat themselves a bit, the art alone makes it more than worth a read.