COMMANDER LEGENDS ROUND TWO - OBEKA VS THRASIOS/ROGRAKH VS TYMNA/SAKASHIMA VS JESKA/SILAS RENN

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@haroldbargo21
@haroldbargo21 4 жыл бұрын
“Scoop up your stuff you’re dead” LMAO
@urdeadnub5
@urdeadnub5 4 жыл бұрын
i was gonna comment this as the highlight of the match xD
@paulmcclain642
@paulmcclain642 4 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite moment too the salt 😂
@enricus2479
@enricus2479 4 жыл бұрын
9:11 800.4i If a player leaves the game during their turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.
@ryanafoster29
@ryanafoster29 4 жыл бұрын
Was going to post the same thing. Thanks for beating me to it.
@joshfrancisco6004
@joshfrancisco6004 4 жыл бұрын
I just made this comment... I scrolled for a while but didn't see it. Comment so the algorithm bumps it towards the top!
@morganpotter2990
@morganpotter2990 4 жыл бұрын
+
@SuddsyZomby
@SuddsyZomby 4 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this
@magicthe7
@magicthe7 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, if cam had cast the Bob there in the end he would have gotten the cyc rift to hand.
@KenBaumann
@KenBaumann 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. What a game! I was surprised at how often Cam had answers... That was wild.
@AstoundingYeti
@AstoundingYeti 4 жыл бұрын
Everyday that goes by I become more and more frightened by Tymna/Sakashima Stax
@xrlylyl4089
@xrlylyl4089 4 жыл бұрын
Its 2 in the morning here but this is more important than sleep
@mimiklureaegis9906
@mimiklureaegis9906 4 жыл бұрын
This is the way.
@jackrosen1
@jackrosen1 4 жыл бұрын
Should have played that bob at the end, it gets around Uba exile.
@cjs297
@cjs297 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Jeska/Silas. I also love the editing that skips tutoring and other mundane actions without appearing super disruptive. Mics are good quality. Only nitpick is the occasional camera shake. Subbed!
@grahamwarwick3079
@grahamwarwick3079 4 жыл бұрын
That stack at 12:16 is a thing of beauty
@BugTrainerSmiley54
@BugTrainerSmiley54 4 жыл бұрын
Great game! I really appreciate seeing games with misplays as it still provides ways for people to learn. This game is hard and there is so much to catch. People aren't perfect and only expecting to see games that are isn't realistic. Thank you guys for all that you do!
@AlsonamedDennis
@AlsonamedDennis 4 жыл бұрын
I'm brewing Silas/Jeska right now! So excited to see this game.
@Funder1Nk
@Funder1Nk 4 жыл бұрын
Best cEDH content on KZbin. No flynthorn elves makes me sad :(
@cheynewellington
@cheynewellington 4 жыл бұрын
One of your more enjoyable games. Alot more dynamic, with alot more back and forth and not able to predict the winner by turn 2
@player1redletsgo260
@player1redletsgo260 4 жыл бұрын
Month 2 of binge watching all the content they create. Love you guys. Please never stop being yourselvesss
@Olson34
@Olson34 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a play to win video without a little bit of mistakes. It just shows you how complex magic is and it's also a reason I support ;-)
@joshfrancisco6004
@joshfrancisco6004 4 жыл бұрын
At 9:10, yes Nate would have the chance to activate thrasios on the end step as if Tyler's end step existed, but notion thief did not exist. 800.4g If a player leaves the game during his or her turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.
@danwilson9522
@danwilson9522 4 жыл бұрын
Best play was the Dark Ritual to pay for Pact of Negation. Really thought Cam was done for there.
@noahjaffe3094
@noahjaffe3094 4 жыл бұрын
the music definitely has Jurassic Park and Avengers vibes. The music is an underrated aspect of this channel!
@lucasgrunheidt4843
@lucasgrunheidt4843 4 жыл бұрын
The BOB and The cyclonic rift, dude. Omg. edit: still loved the video, as always. Awesome work, guys!
@riccardotonarelli6268
@riccardotonarelli6268 4 жыл бұрын
That Tymna/Sakashima list is so sweet! Currently brewing and testing it (tryin it without the consult lines and focusing more on hate/stax elements). Great game and content guys, you are great!
@derekharris96
@derekharris96 4 жыл бұрын
Muddle the mixtures is one of the best tutors. Gilded Drake, Mana Drain, Cyclonic Rift, Dranith Magistrate, Isochrone Scepter, Dramatic Reversal, Final Fortune. The list of 2 drops it can transmute for is almost endless in cEDH. Doubling as interaction is always great too.
@paulmcclain642
@paulmcclain642 4 жыл бұрын
The best part of this game is it made me pull out my Jeska and read her and uh she seems amazing
@Amascut
@Amascut 4 жыл бұрын
As a Jeska/Dargo player... she is
@RageofVaddix
@RageofVaddix 4 жыл бұрын
That divergent transformation stack was the best stack I've seen perhaps ever! So insane! :D
@Xeno-MTG
@Xeno-MTG 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome game. The amount of interaction Cam had was surreal, even though you guys really, really should start reading your cards :D I have to say though, I LOVE the Tymna / Sakashima deck. Everytime I see that one being played I cheer up. The misery it brings is so heartwarming, didn't know the Uba Mask-lock yet though, love it too! :)
@orsettomorbido
@orsettomorbido 4 жыл бұрын
What a great game. We all thought it was going to end with two self-defeats and NO, rituals to the rescue! I never draw that many counters, lmao. I don't understand everyone else's luck with them HAHAHA I usually play white to have silence effects to and nope, i can't find those either. One of the best games of recent memory.
@dantebeleren
@dantebeleren 4 жыл бұрын
It would've been risky, but Cam should've replayed Bob at the end as it could have gotten him cards in hand (potentially even that C-Rift)
@GunbladeKnight
@GunbladeKnight 4 жыл бұрын
9:24 This is incorrect. You do still go through their steps and phases, passing priority as normal. So he could have indeed activated Thrassios during the end step after the loss trigger resolves.
@eridevonta1384
@eridevonta1384 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler conceded, not losing from Final Fortune trigger.
@GunbladeKnight
@GunbladeKnight 4 жыл бұрын
@@eridevonta1384 It doesn't matter, then. The turn still finishes through the rest of the steps and phases, allowing the opponents chances to take actions during the turn.
@coltonlyne6736
@coltonlyne6736 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed it’s actual term for it is ‘phantom player’
@d9_1056
@d9_1056 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck man. I really like your content. ..which is a problem. We need more of that good shit.
@kellyperry5009
@kellyperry5009 4 жыл бұрын
Great game, cool decks. what a finish! I did not see that coming at the beginning of the game.
@lennyfacetd9078
@lennyfacetd9078 4 жыл бұрын
Holy moly Cam! You got all the responses that game either that’s luck or really good deck building my man ( mostly both)
@benso309
@benso309 4 жыл бұрын
Dark ritual the savior. Haha
@quinnquitars
@quinnquitars 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen uba mask before, and certainly not in a cedh deck. I didn’t realize the potential it has with magistrate, cool stuff.
@styxsksu
@styxsksu Жыл бұрын
Wondering if Tyler should have ended the turn when there was 2 tutors on the stack during his turn
@d9_1056
@d9_1056 4 жыл бұрын
At 5:00 couldn't the obekka have shut down the end step shenanigans?
@allobonjour9761
@allobonjour9761 2 жыл бұрын
Seing Cameron play jeska with his jeskai deck and this one really makes me want to build a deck using her as a commander
@jasons3734
@jasons3734 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I can be as graceful in my misplays as you guys are! Super fun as always!
@brunocaravelas
@brunocaravelas 4 жыл бұрын
hello, first thanks for the content. I have a question, why negate the consultation if you can let it be resolved and negate the oracle causing the player to die for not having cards to draw?
@ryanhunsaker6963
@ryanhunsaker6963 4 жыл бұрын
Why not recast lotus turn 2 from silas trigger??
@kennethritacco6959
@kennethritacco6959 4 жыл бұрын
Dylan/Cam -- what is the current “best” 5 color deck in the current state of cedh in your opinion and who is at the helm (general)?
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG 4 жыл бұрын
I’d say there’s an argument for kenrith, Najeela or Golos
@Snuske10006
@Snuske10006 4 жыл бұрын
"Minor" nitpick on the game. When Obeka died to the final fortune trigger, there is a window in the end step after that player died where thrasios can be activated. CR 800.4a and 513.1. priority would go back to the active player in the end step after the fortune trigger has resolved but since he has left the game priority will go to thrasios. Other then that and the Jeska stuff it was a great game :D
@chronics23
@chronics23 4 жыл бұрын
That has to be the most I've ever seen a commander attack in cedh
@DJVU12
@DJVU12 4 жыл бұрын
Ok so @9:14 Tyler loses the game on his end step trigger. Combine rules 500.2 about ending the phase/step as well as 117.3b about active player receiving priority when an ability resolves and 800.4i saying when a player leaves on their own turn the turn continues to completion with priority passing normally. Tyler loses to his trigger resolving, priority would then pass to dead Tyler but instead goes to Nate because of 800.4i. Stack is empty and Nate has priority to go to dead Tyler's cleanup. Nate may activate his ability w.o Notion Thief witnessing the draw. Game continues normally in the end phase passing over Tyler's normal Active Player priority.
@steven3814
@steven3814 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Cameron misplays cost him that game. But I love the jeska silas deck i built one too
@שחרשגב-מ4ק
@שחרשגב-מ4ק 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm not sure about it but shouldn't Tyler just end the turn in response to mystical tutor 4:50
@Brumbo
@Brumbo 4 жыл бұрын
It's a "May" effect unfortunately
@magicpaul2926
@magicpaul2926 4 жыл бұрын
@@Brumbo But it was his turn. Couldn't he have chosen to end the turn?
@שחרשגב-מ4ק
@שחרשגב-מ4ק 4 жыл бұрын
@@magicpaul2926 that is what I thought
@Brumbo
@Brumbo 4 жыл бұрын
@@שחרשגב-מ4ק Oo you're right!, my bad. I wonder why they didn't end the turn there?
@jacob510
@jacob510 4 жыл бұрын
@9:24 he would've been able to activate Thrasios 800.4g. If a player leaves the game during his or her turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.
@davidsparling9631
@davidsparling9631 4 жыл бұрын
First turn with Silas Renn that you swung, you didn't get Jeweled Lotus back. Why?
@s4ad0wpi
@s4ad0wpi 4 жыл бұрын
At the end, couldn't Cameron have played Bob to "Draw cards" without Drawing, and thus, get card advantage around the Uba Mask? I mean, sure, he was low on life, but it gives him the change to hit that Cyclonic Rift!
@kend6916
@kend6916 4 жыл бұрын
Brewing Sakashima/Tymna Stax at the moment. This just boosted even further to complete the deck soon
@kevinchamp9722
@kevinchamp9722 4 жыл бұрын
At around 9:20 Nate should have been able to draw 800.4i: If a player leaves the game during their turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate. This along with steps and phases only changing when all players have passed priority on an empty stack means that Nate would get priority again after Tyler lost the game.
@kevinchamp9722
@kevinchamp9722 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't see others had already said this. I don't mean to beat a dead horse
@zouxiaonan9751
@zouxiaonan9751 4 жыл бұрын
Cam didn't have 3 artifact, so opal shouldn't be active, right?
@Egovinco98
@Egovinco98 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 that is wrong btw. If a player looses the turn finishes as normal, but with no active player. All phasen still happen. Including a second round of priority at Endstep, after the loose the game trigger resolves.
@Egovinco98
@Egovinco98 4 жыл бұрын
800.4i If a player leaves the game during their turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.
@Egovinco98
@Egovinco98 4 жыл бұрын
also 16:20 thats Nate thrasios, so it should be exiled
@Egovinco98
@Egovinco98 4 жыл бұрын
ah, just saw Enricus pointed out the same thing before
@pirateye68
@pirateye68 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Cameron " . . . . *shuffles* . . . begin", good work buddy.
@lukasloetscher1037
@lukasloetscher1037 4 жыл бұрын
When a player looses, the turn is still carried out. I.e. There is still a second main phase and an endstep. So you can activate abilities and cast spells even after a person died. (around 9:30)
@Yamasukii
@Yamasukii 4 жыл бұрын
Silas/Jeska looks neat :D How much of your decks are proxied? How real cards are looking (condition wise) after a lot of playing in double sleeve of course. I'm currently building my first "real" strong edh deck and I'm so afraid of destroying my staples :O
@TheG4urdian
@TheG4urdian 4 жыл бұрын
Someone check Cameron’s sleeves! Pulling all those answers was nuuuuttttssss!!! Great game guys!
@Higley1234
@Higley1234 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying a tune a thrasios and rograkh storm deck. It's still kind of clunky
@abrahammendezgonzalez3242
@abrahammendezgonzalez3242 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome play guys ,🤟👍
@GrixisCactus
@GrixisCactus 4 жыл бұрын
Podcast Challenge: You have been contracted by WOTC to remake done commanders to be CEDH level, but the feel of the commander must remain. Alternatively, you need to do this for CEDH commanders that have fallen out of relevancy (ex Prossh)
@PhantomRXY
@PhantomRXY 3 жыл бұрын
The jeweled lotus just sitting there lol
@Brooks0511
@Brooks0511 3 жыл бұрын
Why did he not re cast jewled lotus from his graveyard after he attacked and dealt damage
@CalamitousCactus
@CalamitousCactus 4 жыл бұрын
Does Tyler sell copies of that playmat he is using?
@CamToWin
@CamToWin 4 жыл бұрын
That’s actually a spike feeders playmat
@CalamitousCactus
@CalamitousCactus 4 жыл бұрын
@@CamToWin thanks
@abdulmuhaimin9780
@abdulmuhaimin9780 4 жыл бұрын
That was a really fun great game to watch
@NilsPyssling
@NilsPyssling 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it up boys. Love the show.
@matchiu92
@matchiu92 4 жыл бұрын
great video, the misplays really made it more interesting
@indykwatra2237
@indykwatra2237 4 жыл бұрын
It makes it more human
@DonJuanDecepticon
@DonJuanDecepticon 4 жыл бұрын
Reading the card explains the card still relevant baybee.
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA 4 жыл бұрын
I got Jeska and Rograh but idk how to use them so this is helpful
@MasterDecoy1W
@MasterDecoy1W 4 жыл бұрын
Just throwing this out before watching, but hopefully everybody has READ THEIR CARDS this time :\ EDIT: Ah, two minutes in, and I see I'm not wanted here.
@jbs6614
@jbs6614 4 жыл бұрын
love the disney background music
@jonathansimon67
@jonathansimon67 4 жыл бұрын
Thassa s oracle + tutor with the canonist on the board...
@peripherialdoom7171
@peripherialdoom7171 4 жыл бұрын
I’m building a similar two tymnas deck as my first cedh worthy deck. My wallet is slowly taking the beating
@SmugLookingBarrel
@SmugLookingBarrel 4 жыл бұрын
Spoilers: I really think Tyler shouldn't have conceded in response to the Pyroblast. He had a whole extra turn to go through to try and find an answer or a win in a place where all of his opponents were tapped out. Especially if Nate was going to activate the Thrasios and give him a notion thief card.
@gazin1065
@gazin1065 4 жыл бұрын
Really fun to watch
@natepeer9473
@natepeer9473 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t nates brainstorm have had Tyler drawing three off the notion thief, then having to put two back?
@kevinchamp9722
@kevinchamp9722 4 жыл бұрын
No, Brainstorm was in response to the Notion Thief so it resolved before Notion the if was on the battlefield.
@natepeer9473
@natepeer9473 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinchamp9722 oooh, yeah I was wondering. I musta misheard or something cause that woulda made way more sense
@dartiswright4925
@dartiswright4925 4 жыл бұрын
Dylan: BE-GIIIIIN Cam:..... begin.... Lmaoooo
@therealone9524
@therealone9524 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could play with you guys
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 4 жыл бұрын
Did didn't cast Cam the lotus after attacking with Silas the 2nd turn?
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG 4 жыл бұрын
Because of thalia jeweled lotuscoated an extra mana and he wanted to resolve dark confidant first
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 4 жыл бұрын
I guess because of Thalia since he didn't have enough mana to cast Jeska. By thy way, I love answering my own questions.
@Icecolten1
@Icecolten1 4 жыл бұрын
How in the world did that ending happen...
@arkfuzz6369
@arkfuzz6369 4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful game!
@MultiDelta18
@MultiDelta18 4 жыл бұрын
Great show love it
@uriahatkinson2103
@uriahatkinson2103 4 жыл бұрын
Wow my deck won..gg guys...need a rematch though
@veldin4108
@veldin4108 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why but Thrassirog sounds hilarious to me. Good old rograth
@Rakdos44
@Rakdos44 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful game !
@ahmada1798
@ahmada1798 4 жыл бұрын
why I have this strong feeling that this is a fixed game?
@PajamassBBY
@PajamassBBY 4 жыл бұрын
dylan lemme play a cedh game with you guys lol
@patrickvillegas5511
@patrickvillegas5511 4 жыл бұрын
That recommendation for Obeka to attack and then pyroblasting it was sort of a dick move.
@fry7226
@fry7226 4 жыл бұрын
I watch game knights cause it’s entertaining but play to win actually made me want to start playing commander
@fry7226
@fry7226 4 жыл бұрын
That like just made my entire day
@mageguild
@mageguild 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice, I like
@临高
@临高 4 жыл бұрын
there has been too many people who don't know how Jeska works...
@charyou3167
@charyou3167 4 жыл бұрын
There is still an end step if a player died on their turn for everyone else.
@mafiaejah
@mafiaejah 4 жыл бұрын
Lemme just say it again at 14:00 CAMEROOOON!!!!
@omgitsjoshjames
@omgitsjoshjames 4 жыл бұрын
Great game.
@ilosthope.
@ilosthope. 4 жыл бұрын
Dude i got 3 ads at the start😂😂.
@bryanjortiz-serrano5775
@bryanjortiz-serrano5775 4 жыл бұрын
Yasssss
@rctfan7
@rctfan7 4 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes what a lock.
@oriongammon7044
@oriongammon7044 4 жыл бұрын
Try kefnet turns
@FirelordSylar
@FirelordSylar 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, around 5:00 mns or so when those tutors and stuff happened on end step, Tyler could have just ended the turn. Maybe a missplay, will have to finish watching to see.
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 4 жыл бұрын
not my arch nemesis. reading comprehension. why are you here again to foil my plans. also dosnt bob ADD the card to hand instead of drawing it so it would work even with uba mask. hav i overlook why you couldn't cast it.
@alexandrest-cyr5747
@alexandrest-cyr5747 4 жыл бұрын
after all this we can conclude that « drannith magistrate is broken in edh » 😂
@samuelkabab7421
@samuelkabab7421 4 жыл бұрын
I did the same mistake than Cameron with Jeska 😅
@AlsonamedDennis
@AlsonamedDennis 4 жыл бұрын
Is there something I'm not seeing? I thought the whole point of the deck is that Silas allows you to cast Jewelled Lotus infinitely, carrying and minusing Jeska infinitely.
@AlsonamedDennis
@AlsonamedDennis 4 жыл бұрын
/sigh I'm retarded. Just read the rulings on Silas.
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy I don’t think so. Silas allows you to cast it once per turn I believe. Once it leaves zones it’s new, so Silas wouldn’t see it as being able to cast it again. I think? JUDGE!
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG 4 жыл бұрын
Ooo watch ableist language please
@AlsonamedDennis
@AlsonamedDennis 4 жыл бұрын
@@PlaytoWinMTG in your two comments, you were right twice. My bad.
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