Commander Staples From Foundations

[@shane3876]

I feel as if blue/red is desperate for a new theme outside of artifacts and spellslinger.

[@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai]

I think izzet would be a good home for a fresh goad commander. Goad stuff, draw when goaded stuff deals damage. Maybe that already exists idk

[@kommanderkronk]

That's why my only izzet deck is Ghyrson Starn. At least it's mostly pingers

[@shane3876]

@@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai there’s a dnd goad dragon commander, but I think that’s also good space to work with. There’s been a handful of cool one off legends in izzet but, like Boros, it’s needs a facelift

[@DaijDjan]

​​@@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai It already exists in BR, UB and UR indeed ;)

[@GigaLordShinyMudkip1]

A subtheme of Izzet is draw twos and tokens. I am not sure what new ground izzet could go.

[@HanDaimond]

The most important reprint of the set is Zetalpa Primal Dawn, because we definitely don't have enough of it!

[@HannahBraggins-c7e]

I like the change to "this creature". Every now and then you'd see someone asking if a creature with say a draw on etb effect would trigger for another creature with the same name coming in. This creature makes it more clear that it was just referring to itself.

[@doktarr]

It also makes copy effects that change the name (e.g. Sakashima the Impostor) less confusing.

[@Seergun]

I've been wanting the "this creature" change for YEARS. There are SO MANY new players asking about it when clone and clone adjacent things are happening...

[@tattooman3603]

Banner of Kinship is absolutely going to be put in EVERY Krenko deck going forward.

[@Turn140]

I was gunna swap coat of arms for it lol

[@zacharymorris6119]

I really loved Bloomburrow, but didn't care for Duskmorn. I think I'll get this one too. But I honestly plan on pulling out a lot because of some SLD and UB issues.

[@zacharymorris6119]

The power creep is real though lol

[@GoodIntentions1116]

The furry is a Bloomburrow fan? Color me suprised.

[@444jrios]

I know the channel is EDH deck building. So you'll be talking about it from the EDH standpoint. But, this set is very obviously meant to set up standard. So it confused me when you were saying 'do we really need more of that'. Because, yes we do need it. This is effectively resetting standard and becoming the base for the next 5 years. So there wouldnt be any archtypes at all. So they need to include things like spellslingers payoffs so those decks are playable.

[@Dragon_Fyre]

More so even than your typical standard set, as Foundations will be legal in standard until at least 2029. If they have these payoff cards in Foundations, they don’t need to keep releasing versions in other sets as sets rotate out twice as often.

[@tidosaurus4423]

Sure, but a card like Archmage of Runes is clearly aimed at Commander and I doubt it will be popular in Standard or enable some Spellslinger deck there. To do so you simply would have to need a different card. And it is not that hard to design cards that enable certain archetypes for standard and do not powercreep commander at the same time. The reality is that commander is a driving factor for sales so WOTC thinks they need to print a bunch of these "must include" cards in every new set, which is especially sad to see for foundations, considering what the set is supposed to be.

[@444jrios]

I don't think any rare that isn't an obvious 60 card staple is aimed at commander. They have been making big dudes that don't end up being good since the start

[@tidosaurus4423]

@@444jrios cant prove that for a single card, but overall the amount of cards who happen to be well suited & strong precisely for commander is insane, this has also been discussed in this and many other channels at length and backed up with numbers and plenty of examples

[@444jrios]

@@tidosaurus4423 I agree overall. But in Magic Foundations I very heavily disagree that the cards are geared toward commander. Sure, some could be. But that's just the nature of making cards. Especially in a massive set like this.

[@cedarbobedar7223]

"A 6-mana 12/8??" dude did you not see Yargle and Multani? The only way a vanilla is relevant is if it's a good rate

[@breadpower]

with hare apparent, there will be 3 "this deck can have any number" that came out this year. slime against humanity, templar knight, and hare apparent

[@edhdeckbuilding]

that's right, slime against humanity came out this year.

[@-F2b8-]

Has anyone ever did a "unless" tribal deck? That perforating Artist would go well in it! Deck idea : all cards that gives choice to opponent with the word "unless" like those rhystic cards and rhystic cave! Commander : Parnesse or the original Nicol Bolas

[@DaijDjan]

I once built a Negan deck for a forum challenge, where every card basically gave the oppponent a choice, made them vote, and similar. Never put it together and played it for real, but it did look quite fun to play in the end.

[@radvillainy]

I feel like the 20ish year transition from Grizzly Bears -> Bear Cub is pretty funny. Although I still don’t think 2 squirrels should be able to take down a bear cub.

[@marcoottina654]

What about raccoon mauling a fricking giant? How can a small racoon have 5 power?

[@bruisedfrog]

Because I see that nobody has brought it up yet, the anime art is a thing that every proper jumpstart has done so far

[@brandyourfan9244]

Proposterous Proportions is awesome if you have something, like Kodama of the West Tree, that gives your team Trample.

[@bartoffer]

Uthuun still has the advantage because you make the choice. The new one lets the opponent make the choice. In fairness, though, if you were playing Sphinxes or an UB reanimator that was interested in one, you'd probably be interested in the other.

[@burnsboy101]

6:08 the only white one was the assassins creed one, now we have an in universe white version of it which was not available before, for people who don’t want to use a UB one

[@TeethMeat-jm8ou]

And the only uncommon in the "any number" cards which is also a downer

[@chrisgebben2043]

plus the knight are actually pretty dang expensive compared to the others also legendary artifact's is not necessary a theme in mono white but tokens on the other hand is a piece of cake

[@WizardScience]

I took your advice from a past video and actually built Jeskai Manlands using Satya. I put Myriad and Landfall themes and a bit of energy synergy in it. Haven't played it yet but I'll be picking up the rest of my list from my local shop soon.

[@ceronmachtdinge]

Tergrid is gonna love that new blsasphemous act

[@JimboBango]

Stoked to include Quilled Greatwurm in my Slimes Against Humanity deck

[@STS-qi1qy]

I *am* amused that the Ceratops is just double Craw Wurm (at the same total cost)

[@Chocotorro996]

Preposterous proportions might become my favorite overrun effect, in a color where a lot of the stompy creatures already have trample doing a craterhoof sometimes felt redundant, these guaranties ill be safe in combat on the way back

[@marcoottina654]

2:50 what do you wish him to do? 4 effects + 3 keywords + protection + hand ability + ... Like the "energy soul guide" from MH3? Geez it's a common that follow a well established pattern in white small creatures crards ("white weeny"?), not a myth rare chase-card Anyway, I've loved all of your videos, to be honest. You always bring something good, unknown, sometimes spicy and that has some unique, underrated, secret or unpredictable abilities/synergies. You created a gem-mine of a channel

[@GrizzneyGames]

"This creature" was in bloomburrow, but I agree with your points about it.

[@jacobesterson]

Preposterous Proportions is, funnily enough, a great alternative wincon card for Chatterfang. You often end up with dozens of squirrels without much effort, which you'll usually just sacrifice for aristocrat procs, but running overwhelm effects is a 100% viable option as well for decks that go ultra wide. I'm definitely running this in Shroofus Sproutsire when I build him.

[@HarmonicResonanceScale]

Gigantosaurus for GGGGG has been around forever.

[@pianojoker2]

Gigantosaurus is a rare. A good comparison would be Vorstclaw, which was printed 4 years ago... The power creep a real and Quakestrider Ceratops is a good example I think.

[@Mecal00]

It has a much heavier mana cost, which I like

[@michaelpatalano9884]

I love your content!!!

[@liamkoshowski7689]

Im definitely getting that greatwurm for my thalia and gitrog wurk tribal deck

[@PhillipGruneich]

Quilled Greatwurm going straight to my Gitrog deck; saddle with the wurm, big frog connects, gets +7/+7, sac the wurm, draw 7 and can even bring it back next turn.

[@ivernedit]

I like they made the hair apparent because the assassins creed one isn’t very accessible and are 3-5 bucks a pop. Only had one person I could even trade to for them.

[@ethanboyd2981]

Quakestrider Ceratops is not the largest 6 mana vanilla creature. Yargle and Multani is a 6 mana 18/6. I believe it was also the most recent vanilla creature printed till this set.

[@moedark4390]

finally a good vanilla creature for my Ruxa deck.

[@maximillionchaoswolf]

yeah and I feel like elementals are more likely to be cheated out for free by effects than a dinosaur and even in that context people didn't seem impressed by yargle and multani.

[@scrungozeclown836]

Its also legendary and rare, where as QC is uncommon and non-legendary, so you could put one out each turn (non commander) and are easier to pull

[@JeffreyGoddin]

I just built Baru the Wurmspeaker for fun as a themed sneaky druid tribal with Three Tree City knowing full well that good wurms are scarce, so yeah, the deck is full of pretty basic wurms lol... and now you're telling me I'm about to get an auto-include out of Foundations... actually sorta torn, as alongside the Wurmcoil this deck might actually prove a threat now.

[@ceronmachtdinge]

heh, pair that Valkyries thing with Conspiracy. Unlimited respawns for your whole team!

[@sirtrixx]

The leyline axe and “any number of” card are probably included in foundations specifically to introduce new players to these mechanics

[@hahahafunniness]

Except they could've reprinted any of the existing cards if that was the case. The design space as of the last 3 years has been stale AF. I've almost come to expect certain mechanics each set. For example, lately, every set has had an impact tremor but with small difference in card types. Demo is right.

[@DaijDjan]

​@@hahahafunniness To be fair, that's how it has always been to some degree at the very least. Every set design staples have existed for two decades now.

[@hahahafunniness]

@@DaijDjan i think it's also a direct effect of the deluge of new cards a year. I am ok with having "strictly better" upgrades for certain type of effects like Impact Tremors, however, not at the rate of every set lol.

[@DaijDjan]

@@hahahafunniness Oh, absolutely for sure :)

[@sirtrixx]

@@hahahafunniness it’s not a matter of right and wrong? I’m saying that was the obvious design goal. I imagine they didn’t reprint a whole set of each colors leylines because they just added a set in duskmourn and if you do one color you need to add all 5, thus the colorless leyline axe FWIW I do agree that the design space has been stale with a few exceptions

[@mrurameshi9433]

Nice! Magnus the Red gets some dragos 😎

[@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai]

Quakestrider is definitely a sleeper, I can easily see that on turn 4 and there's a MILLION ways to give things trample, like Leyline Axe lmao. Honestly I like Hare Apparent but really just for the fact that I can take a solid chunk of non thematic filler out of my Finneas rabbit tribal meme deck that makes it both more memey and more streamlined. Soulstone is probably something I'm going to slot into Wizard tribal for sure, Azami draws off of it and counts for Patron Wizard as well

[@josephc5314]

Conspiracy with Valkyrie's Call seems busted

[@OniTreefolk]

Every set is a test set now. What I mean is that cards like the Triceratops are bait to see if players are interested in cards like it.

[@Dragon_Fyre]

You do need creatures to die for Spinner of Souls to trigger, so it’s not going to work against exile unless it goes to graveyard before you exile.

[@thesenate918]

Made a hare apparent deck with Arthur, Marigold Knight. Wow is it wicked haha

[@Turn140]

A leyline elemental sounds cool tbh

[@nikolibarastov4487]

I had a Modern Blue / Green Deck that could reliably cast Carnage Tyrant 3rd turn... So that Triceratops is STOOPID!!! It should have been a 4/8 with First Strike. And God Almighty the one that makes dragons for casting instants and sorceries God forbid you have a dragon tempest or a Scourge of Valkas, or Both Good God, not to mention a Warstorm Surge or a Terror of the Peaks, holy crappola

[@Shimatzu95]

I take a leyline axe over free spells any day of the week. Also its, as far as i remember, only the 2rd "leyline" where the effect still takes a bit to be relevant. 1st one is the leyline that lets you cast stuff for wubrg.

[@rraimundobruno]

Equip Perforation Artist with Assault Suit in a deck where you have good sacrifice fodder generation and watch as everyone has to sacrifice/discard 3 cards or lose 9 every cycle.

[@thembosupremepizza1827]

craterhoof is a color break because of haste, not trample

[@hahahafunniness]

Wrong. Green also gives haste. Look at cards like Sarruk and even Concordant Crossroads

[@dariocampanella7992]

​@@hahahafunninessI mean they are really an handful, considering the percentage.

[@hahahafunniness]

@@dariocampanella7992 doesn't mean it's a color break. Just a signal that it's not a primary mechanic of it.

[@TeethMeat-jm8ou]

All the "any number in a deck" cards have been commons... Except the assassin's Creed one. That was a break from the usual and I'm glad a common white any number card is coming to pauper commander. Yes it's still probably going to be a $2 common but it is actually a common. Now I think the set is done and no more is needed.

[@gfinc1601]

leyline axe is a cool concept, but if it's not in your opening hand its terrible

[@OniTreefolk]

No love for Hex.. I forgive you.

[@obadijahparks]

I just want singles from this set. It feels a little too late.

[@actiondk2279]

What happens if you do not have 13 creatures on your battlefield?

[@edhdeckbuilding]

you sacrifice whatever you have

[@andrewfuhrman7806]

Quakestrider goes in Selvala

[@johnpratts2856]

Preposterous Proportions seems to me like a one-sided Green board wipe. Simply because it doesn't have Trample.

[@sylvainlectard7377]

Though it is not putting it directly on the battlefield, there is (are?) already a creature(s?) having an effect before the game even starts if it is in a player opening hand: Chancellor of the Dross.

[@thelunchlady8276]

There's a chancellor for each color. They all do opening hand things.

[@N4chtigall]

I don't really like the shortening text on the cards, but in the end I guess it was necessary and had to happen sooner or later. Also, when it comes to power creep on stats - its also necessary considering the power of removals. Back in the days majority of big creatures were already worthless because of removal. Now big creatures have to be even... bigger to be even remotely viable. Cards like Leyline Axe aren't a problem at all in my opinion. They are one big gamble. What are the odds of drawing it in opening hand? Less than 10%. And even in those 10% - how much value are you really get? You start the game with one less card, you make yourself a target, and you get artifact that in the best case will get used in like turn 3 and will cost you a turn to even equip it. It looks scarier than it really is and even if there will be more cards like that it shouldn't affect the casual commander at all.

[@makesquash]

I think Banner of Kinship is worse than it looks. Unlike something like Coat of Arms you need a pre existing giant board state to get the most out of it as opposed to a statuc stat boost. Not unplayable, but average.

[@HanDaimond]

For 5 mana it's a nice finisher, it shines with Alela Artful Provocateur.

[@somejerk5662]

On the other hand, dropping coat of arms WITHOUT a board state risks getting mowed down by someone who manages to spit out a handful of tokens right after. A boardwipe sets you back to square one. Banner of kinship only effects you, and if there's a wipe your new guys will inherit the buffs from your old board.

[@markmatteson8490]

Wait wouldn’t Valkyrie’s call go infinite with a free sac outlet…? That’s pretty wild.

[@evernever9877]

They came out with 2 slime againstrumentality and this a** includes one with hair apparent.That's three in one year

[@shmackydoo]

Yeah makes total sense that the vanilla ceratops card has greater power than its toughness. /s

[@maximillionchaoswolf]

it does tho look at a rhino sure it skin is hard but its still not that protected but charging with that horn it could pierce a car door and flip it over now imagine the damage a giant triceratops could do.

[@shmackydoo]

@maximillionchaoswolf that's totally true. I'm basing it off the vibes of a dinosaur book I read when I was a kid; the tyrannosaur was the attacker and the triceratops defended.

[@Turn140]

Why does lunar insight look like a ponder

[@Turk1911]

I feel like we are past power creep at this point😅

[@deviousj5868]

If things go well I will for the first time draft Sylessnia and I can't stand Sylessnia.😂

[@reuvenguetta9761]

I don't think this new leyline axe is an auto include. Like about 7% of the time its a good card, or maybe more if you are actively mulliganing to get it, but then you lose cards in hand just to get it. But in the rest of the time, its not good and borderline bad, cause it costs 4, And equip 3! I personally don't mind those leylines, because they are worse then regular cost, but when they come out for free it feels really good

[@Therodaas]

"enters" the graveyard?

[@StalkingPanda96]

I didn't think wizards designs in a way to see crappy assassin sales and add hare apparent

[@michaelturner2806]

5:22 even as a rabbit enthusiast I also am very tired of the joke names and I wish they would stop, I feel bad including this and Claim Jumper in my rabbits typal deck. :(

[@Zaelkrie]

I bet you nobody will play Quakestrider in their decks there is too much competition especially in the green stompy slot, even a mono green deck is more likely to play that new Eldrazi than this card.

[@chrisgebben2043]

oh and ever since ulalek eldrazi's are apearing more often again and thats just skull in crossbones with coat of arms if an opponent is playing eldrazi's because they are already that size without coat and banner this just doubles their size. oh and scrawling crawler you missed the biggest commander for sure thee best deck for it is "Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls" that is the long awaited perfect group slug commander and he grows whenever a opponent loses life for the first time pretty much he grows every single draw step. lunar insight is much easier it looks for mana value rather than golden ratios creature power typically creatures powers are similar or the same some times based on the deck this is mana value which is mostly different and with quilled greatwurm im shocked you didn't talk about the mechanic you talk about the most in your underplayed videos and thats creatures with cumulative upkeep this removes any kind of counter from creatures so you can start over with you cumulative upkeep creatures with this, and it can go further than that you can also remove Finality, -1/-1 and even stun counters to recast it. oh the whole it stupid hard to get thirteen creatures to pay only B to do it ....i don't know what people are thinking its like they not even realizing it's counting every creature on every board thats why red and whites blaspehmous effects (white is vanquish the horde) gets so cheap this is no different and its mana cost is the cheapest of the 3 five mana is like no problem in commander. and like you said theres cards that do the same thing one less mana but its far less creatures

[@habit1363]

“The standard is getting out of control with creature power toughness” please. There are bigger fish to fry that are more abhorrent pains to power creep. A 12 power vanilla creature is essentially useless in most scenarios.

[@edhdeckbuilding]

how about a 15 power vanilla creature for 6? how about 20 power? when does it become an issue?

[@habit1363]

@ It isn’t an issue. No one is upset or freaking out about this card. It isn’t format warping or defining. It will see minimal play in commander. A 5 mana 12/12 vanilla creature wouldn’t be impressive either. If they have no abilities or protection it is essentially useless in the eyes of most commander players. If you can power it up and win with it , what makes it a problem? Seems like a good wincon in the right deck, but It isn’t like they printed 10 creatures in this set with crazy stats for super cheap. If it becomes the new normal then sure, it could be a problem, but you said it yourself “they kinda stopped printing vanilla creatures” and as soon as they do one with decent stats it takes your attention? Gigantosaurus is in 1% of decks. Ancient Brontodon 0% of decks. Even the ones with some upside like Greater Gargadon and Kalonian behemoth are sitting at 0%. Yargle is a commander sitting in the 1500s on the top whatever and as a card is in 1% of decks. They don’t see play. This won’t see play. It isn’t setting precedent.

[@edhdeckbuilding]

@@habit1363 i really don't think you understand where the issues come from. you're only concerned about individual cards, but those cards originate from the overall power creep in the game. people like you ignore this issue until they print a 5/5 vanilla one drop and then scream for it to get banned becuase it's "format warping".

[@habit1363]

@You literally just described yourself. You’re the one with the issues about vanillas creatures with big stats. I used the same data as you to justify my argument.

[@viejoverdez]

i don t know what happen with your delay in your voice, i think has too much :)

[@heecks9375]

Aphelia,viper whisperer is borderline in my case for not loving the art. I don't like manga/anime for mtg. I like that japanese art however. BTW, enter is boring as hell and I agree with you.

[@simonchi5372]

I just find it kinda boring to play the same spell a whole game. They could have made it more interesting too like you are building a family tree of bunnies instead. With restriction for each generation. Could have different art also like the nazguls that was really popular.

[@tevsauce2749]

Bro really complaining about vanilla creatures 💀

[@edhdeckbuilding]

i didn't complain at all about vanilla creatures. i complained about the power creep.

[@tevsauce2749]

​@@edhdeckbuilding lmao who plays them beside decks like Ruxa? I was laughing at the fact you even talked about it in the first place 😂

[@edhdeckbuilding]

@@tevsauce2749 i care about magic as a whole. so i talk about the things i notice that i think matter to the game. the important takeaway was that there isn't any standard anymore for p/t.

[@tevsauce2749]

@@edhdeckbuilding fair enough, thank you for the video!

[@punkypinko2965]

Will Leyline Axe get banned at some point? How is cheating something out for free, on turn one, that different from fast mana?

[@HarmonicResonanceScale]

If affinity was still relevant, leyline axe would be $50 each.

[@doroh2328]

Stop being salty about everything

[@hahahafunniness]

You lemmings are such NPC. Dude was positive about some cards and didn't like others. I bet you cried when Trump won.

[@edhdeckbuilding]

i spent like 30 mins talking about the good stuff from this set. you people seriously are impossible to please.

[@hahahafunniness]

@@edhdeckbuilding some people just need to be called names

[@saintchronic]

Trash artwork + cash grab it’s all by design 🍿🤡

[@brandyourfan9244]

Proposterous Proportions is awesome if you have something, like Kodama of the West Tree, that gives your team Trample.