"Competitive Pay" has become a meaningless buzzword |

[@maserati4000]

Competitive pay = “we will pay you enough to make you apply to a better paying position in a year for a 20% pay raise”

[@JoshuaFluke1]

enough to get you to do the job

[@asadb1990]

@@JoshuaFluke1 exactly its just enough for you to tolerate the job.

[@AnonEMoose-mr8jm]

And then they try to tell you how they're a family and its important to have tenure.

[@maserati4000]

@@JoshuaFluke1 I’ll buy into that shit to get my first dev job but after that, only golden handcuff will be enough to get me to stay longer than a year or two.

[@maserati4000]

@@AnonEMoose-mr8jm lmao fuck that shit. Important to have tenure? Well, It’s important for my money to grow 10% a year minimum so unless their tenure benefits can beat the S&P500 grown they can keep that nonsense to themselves.

[@serbianhammer]

Restaurants: "No one wants to work for us!" Everyone is lazy!" Waitstaff wage 1991: $2.13/hr plus tips Waitstaff wage 2021: $2.13/hr plus tips

[@SuWoopSparrow]

Tips is their wage. A casual restaurant waiter can make 100-200 in a 6 hour shift. They get paid more than enough.

[@serbianhammer]

@@SuWoopSparrow Inflation continues to rise every year. So does cost of living. Wages are supposed to keep up not stay stagnant for 30+ years.

[@Issildurify]

2021: $2.13/hr -- this isn't a joke?

[@SuWoopSparrow]

@@serbianhammer Again, the "real" wage for a waiter is their tips, not their hourly. Their hourly is basically irrelevant. Their tips have gone up alongside inflation. They are making more money than the cooks who make the food while doing lower skill and less physically demanding labor for less time. Using waitstaff as an example for stagnant wages is just ridiculous. To make 100+ in 6 hours with no skills is good money, inflation included. Thats before you get a bit of experience and land a gig at an actual nice restaurant. Ive had friends making 500 in a 6 hour shift regularly after a couple years experience. Their hourly was still "2.13" or something else below minimum wage.

[@Nerobyrne]

@@SuWoopSparrow you literally just said they don't get paid, they get tipped. Screw that, how about paying the people who make your money?

[@potato2941]

With the same logic I never understood "family owned business", what they should say is "family members are going to get preferential treatment and promotion".

[@ThirdLife86]

Family owned just means you're expected to deliver like your mom is dying but for best case an average salary. Fuck that. "Family owned" has no value. Give me a salary range.

[@dominik-b9h]

Here's a crazy thought: if you think your salary is competitive, as in: it can compete with other salaries, then go ahead and do the following: STATE THE FUCKING SALARY AND LET IT COMPETE. There, glad I could help, I will take your competitive salary as my compensation for this advice.

[@ClayMastah344]

Exactly!!! They all fckn hide it because they know it’s trash

[@tommygunn6901]

As a Veteran of the Marines, Military grade sounds nice, but doesn't mean it's good quality

[@JoshuaFluke1]

in the military world it means 'cheap but generally reliable for mass production' in the civilian world it means 'buzzword that's sound tough because people have no idea'

[@tommygunn6901]

@@JoshuaFluke1 facts! It's just using common sense really. If it sounds too good to be true, it mostly is

[@1str1ker]

Military grade means that it meets the bare minimum requirements to be useful.

[@tommygunn6901]

@@1str1ker exactly

[@destroyonload3444]

Only thing I could think of that was nice from my days and drew a hard blank. Everything has a special way to get it to work as intended.

[@ddevulders]

I feel so lucky, I grew up in a small village where the farmers were the backbone of our culture. The man that would pay your dad his salary would sit down at our kitchen table, enjoy the meal my mom made and speak in words of gratitude even though he had more than any of us. He would be there if the markets were down and make sure my family was doing okay. Not just by words and team meetings but by showing up with a wad of cash when my dad got sick and couldn't provide anymore as he literally was unable to walk. These men were disagreeable to the fabric of their bones but would carry their community and provide without expectation of return. Moving to the city was a culture shock for me personally. So much words said without content, so much promises made without loyalty and so much backpaddling when they were needed the most. I remember like yesterday when I visited my dad and went to go to work in the morning and hit black ice into a ditch, I called my employer in a panic to tell him what happened and he was angry at me while that same man that was at our kitchen table showed up with his tractor before the emergency services and pulled me out. He called me in, made his wife make me a hot soup, drop me off at my work and made sure my car was ready to go 2 days later without putting the bill on me. This was the point my whole perspective changed on how a man should carry his family and his community, I would rather die with empty pockets knowing I did right for my people than making 200k a year and have nothing to show for it besides an over inflated ego, I wish I could transfer this to others without sounding like a stuck up douchebag.

[@harm991]

"So much words said without content, so much promises made without loyalty and so much backpaddling when they were needed the most." Epic " I wish I could transfer this to others without sounding like a stuck up douchebag." I'm just trying to practice what I preach. That is already a big step

[@ddevulders]

@@harm991 It's really hard to keep your word in the face of controversy but if you put the wellbeing of your community before the incentive to make a dollar the answers will align themselves. Invest in those that make your world go round without expectation of return and you will instill the behavior that will actually make a difference.

[@vi1371]

You're my favorite "30 year old man complaining about corporations" on KZbin.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Hey thanks

[@xaendark]

I just assumed that the "competition" was between the CEOs trying to pay their employees as low as possible. And then that's called "competitive pay"

[@brpadington]

This is exactly it. The worst part is they cheat at the game by paying H1B applicants less than 1/3 of what they would pay a local.

[@TheAlchemist1089]

@@brpadington for most H1B's it's a win win I think

[@brpadington]

@@TheAlchemist1089 They should be paid whatever the market rate is for that area. This will prevent the company abusing the visa holder and it will prevent incompetent people from being hired. It will also prevent them using the H1B program to lower wages. This was not how the H1B program was intended to be used.

[@TheAlchemist1089]

@@brpadington that's true actually. But that's not how it works on reality. Majority of H1B'S are in contract jobs with temp agencies and consultancies. They're stuck there. It works for the workers too because they're not really that good and are content with low wages. Tbh they're not that low either ($45-$70/hr is decent afaik)

[@brpadington]

@@TheAlchemist1089 I think most of the time that is correct. The problem is they are tied to the company that sponsored them so they can't leave if the company mistreats them. Also in my area 70 an hour is lower than what some of my colleagues make. If my co-workers and I make 75 and hour and they hire an H1B for 40 that isn't a good thing. It isnt fair to the visa holder or to the local workers they are taking jobs from.

[@therainbro]

Competitive pay makes them sound like they’re paying a lot, when in reality, it’s usually just the standard, or sometimes lower

[@dw4525]

Investors would baulk at the idea of high pay.

[@lastnamefirst_]

Remember a while ago when Wendy's supposedly revamped their fries and touted them as "made with russet potatoes" as a selling point when russet potato fries are the industry standard. "Competitive pay" is very that. You nailed it.

[@Ddeath.Eaterr]

Literally

[@TheAbhorrent1]

I hate when companies use "flexible schedule" because often times that means not enough hours and its you being flexible for them

[@Ced3kGama]

Yeah. I've been in that situation with a startup. In the first 3 months while they needed to figure what to do, it was 10 hours of work per week.

[@Ddeath.Eaterr]

Yep

[@solegonz762]

You're right. At my work, I gave my feedback & now HR posts the pay for every position & they tell candidates the pay range before the first interview- so nobody wastes their time. 👏👏👏👏

[@Max-lf3tx]

Had an interview today with HR, they asked for my salary expectations, so I replied by asking for their budget. It was much higher than I expected. Thanks Josh for that advice. If not for you I would have been low balled.

[@lg3103]

Your lucky to get that recruiter. Most of them will tell you they are not authorized to disclose the range. A few of them will reveal the range. Does not hurt to ask.

[@Max-lf3tx]

@@lg3103 yeh luckily it was the actual company rather than through a 3rd party . Should that happen I'd refuse to give them anything concrete, see what im offered.

[@AngelaMerici12]

That's great!! 👍

[@asadb1990]

@@lg3103 yeah most direct employer recruiters don't want to disclose salaries. though if you give a number they might confirm if its within the range. i once got to second interview with a large company and they claimed big pay. but the offer came and it was insulting low ball. i was unemployed and desparate but still countered with 5k more. but luckily before joining i got another offer for $10k more.

[@jahedullah1]

I’ll do that next time I’m asked that. Most of the time, it’s so low then I just use them for interview experience to see if I can pass it so when it comes to the better role then I can hopefully ace it.

[@kelvint.h1158]

They are competing with their competitors about who pays the lowest

[@zanidd]

it's not even about not having the funds to pay a livable wage, it's about them not wanting to give you livable wage, so they can profit more

[@grmpEqweer]

Usually, yes.

[@habibishapur]

Who said otherwise? Lmao welcome to economics 101 with Zanidd, where we will learn how the world works.

[@sloppyjonuts9162]

Worked at a frozen foods warehouse -10 degree in the freezers maybe even lower than that. When I left top pay for a forklift guy was like 19. They worked us 60 hrs a week for years. And would go thru 400 employees every year. Now all a sudden that place pays $23

[@GrandpasPlace]

I think my favorite is the "Top end benefits package!" Ive seen that one a lot and it is normally the standard medical,vision,dental,401k,2 weeks pto. Some time ago I pushed an interviewer to explain the "Amazing benefits" I got the list above and responded "So, nothing amazing, just standard stuff" and when they asked me what I would consider an amazing benefit, I listed things like 100% paid medical, company car, a required golden parachute if I leave the position, a 100% or more guaranteed annual bonus, 3 months PTO. The lady responded with "Your not interviewing for CEO" I simply replied "No, but those are amazing benefits."

[@KGMyuR3w]

I remember one cringe-worthy interview. My interviewer listed one of the amazing benefits was that one of my future coworker's "had great knockers."

[@abcd-sf5ur]

Today I was going through my linkedin feed...got depressed after a few posts admiring water bottles and T shirts given by their respective companies..I am seriously stunned ,where are we heading guys

[@asadb1990]

yeah i see that and it pisses me off when people simp like that

[@kafarahat]

Linkedin is a pukeworthy simp heaven.

[@asadb1990]

@@kafarahat yeah i look at it to confirm to myself i have some self respect.

[@mr.wellman702]

LinkedIn is the OnlyFans 😂 of the corporate world, but I wouldn't know because I've never been apart of corporate

[@scottstempmail9045]

"where are we heading guys" A return to the company store idea, which was popular amongst the coal mining companies in the previous century.

[@AngelaMerici12]

Flexible shifts: they will suck the life out of you along with your time. Competitive pay: We'll pay as low as we can.

[@HackersSun]

And the very rare chance it is nice in case I want to request to weekdays in the middle of the week Other than that I yearn for a stable M-F, paid holidays off, 8am-4pm job

[@nikr810]

Flexible schedule for the employer to schedule you as they see fit...all while we normies think it means ih well I can create my schedule to work what I want.

[@ML-yn9yu]

@@nikr810 God yes.. I had a job with an actual flexible schedule.. it was the best job I've ever had. Now im in a job that flexible means they can literally schedule you anywhere from 8-8. it fucking sucks. Im hitting the job boards, hard.

[@jpvoodoo5522]

Flexible shifts: You're not guaranteed any minimum hours and and you're not on the schedule, But you'll be on call anytime we need you.

[@scriptkeeper8243]

"People wanna work, they just don't want garbage wages". Naiiiled it! That or a company thinks that since they now have to pay $15 an hour, they should get someone with a bachelor's degree.

[@Kingsman4101]

As someone who was in for 8 years you speak the truth about military grade...lol

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

Lol soo true

[@insertoyouroemail]

fascinating!

[@dylanjaramillo3168]

I just interviewed at a place that wanted an analyst with "development experience". But they offered $50k/year...

[@FatherPhi]

In low COL areas this is pretty common

[@dylanjaramillo3168]

@@FatherPhi They wanted someone with 2-4 years engineering experience.

[@twee617]

Isn't that pretty good?

[@dylanjaramillo3168]

@@twee617 For entry level, sure. But not experienced.

[@twee617]

@@PoliticalJames oh cool thanks for the insights! So does 'development experience' relate to post sales integration?

[@Helicopterpilot16]

The "sorry you didn't meet employment criteria" line seems so reminiscent to why a factory fired me. Let me go because they didn't make it known there was overtime on Saturday. Fired me right before I was to get a $750 bonus. Seems methodically timed, don't you think? I've lost faith in the workforce completely. It's just indentured servitude and people are compliant. My other gripe is how parents and peers say to sell yourself in the interview. So, be fake and bend over backwards, got it. Fuck the USA is hell.

[@Max-lf3tx]

It's no different anywhere else in the west, immigration is so high to deliberately drive down wages. It all started after WW2, companies liked having people working for basically nothing.

[@Max-lf3tx]

@asdrubale bisanzio definitely I spoke to a group of senior analysts at a big Australian bank my friend works at. They all said they lied to get the job because the requirements are basically unobtainable.

[@Max-lf3tx]

@Pepe Silvia alot of the good jobs go to nepotism, the UK is shocking for it.

[@Max-lf3tx]

@asdrubale bisanzio it is but in protestant cultures, which the usa and the UK are that stuff is meant to be massively frowned upon.

[@laverdadbuscador]

@asdrubale bisanzio it's frowned upon that's why most beneficiaries of nepotism promotions try to brush their relationship under the rug. I've been in management for 7yrs now and most of the companies I've worked for the super high ups are all related. They're not bad people and not always dumb.....but they definitely didn't have to work as hard to get there as people like me without any connections at all.

[@ignazs.5816]

The jobs available suck. No wonder why nobody wants to work. I asked a professor for any job leads and he said that he knows of an open position at a mental health center for $16 dollars in Los Angeles. That's play money for me. I used to make an average of $35 as a waiter. No thanks.

[@forsakenheros]

Same being a server and making 25-40$ hourly (ca min wage 14$ hourly plus tips) but there's no growth past thats so i stepped into the tech field and damn these entry / intermediate salaries are so low! At least getting lucky at amazon it tech is paying me a passable wage for now until i pivot jobs until i get the salary I want

[@MaffyTaffyHaffy]

Then go and stay being a waiter

[@souImenace]

In my country they go one step beyond, they ask YOU to state your salary expectation in the application. so they can hire the person that has lowest expectation. then they wonder why nobody wants to work for them

[@rejectwokeness1314]

I think we are from the same place lol. There are even companies that won't hire if you don't state your salary expectations.

[@deersakamoto2167]

Since Colorado passed the "Equal pay for equal work" act, companies like Airbnb and Chime are avoiding hiring remote positions in Colorado, and they are explicit about it in their job postings

[@JTSuter]

Plot Twist: As a contractor, I tell employers what my competitive pay is.

[@laverdadbuscador]

For it to be "competitive" employees need to know what each other makes. Otherwise you have no idea what you're competing against. I've never seen this happen outside of sales.

[@danpeters6874]

Years ago, I applied for a management position. It was with a limousine company, they made it sound like they had a team of guys who detailed their fleet of limos. The position was for someone to manage that team. Having more than 10 years experience detailing at the time, it was right up my alley. I go to an interview and find out they have one guy who details their fleet and need someone to cover for him 2 days a week so he can have a couple days off, and it pays $11/hr (ad said $16/hr I think). Companies love to lie to get more interviewees. I didn’t want to be an ass so I acted interested but planned to ghost them if they decided to offer me the job (which I was very overqualified for) but in retrospect I should have just got up and walked out as soon as they told me the hours and pay

[@khanindustries]

Foodservice pays their employees so bad that there are bums on the street who make more by just begging... I'm not joking.

[@machinist7230]

The naked cowboy, possibly the most famous busker in New York, makes north of $150k a year...

[@timm1583]

Used to know a crackhead (or whatever drug they were buying) was making like 60k panhandling

[@scottstempmail9045]

The least payed people in the country are tasked with feeding the rest of us. What could go wrong?

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

@@machinist7230 I met him at a pool, Orlando FL 2000s. I did hotel security 🚔. He undid the pool ropes & was 🏊🏻‍♂️. He had shorts on. Lol...

[@IncognitoSprax]

Military Grade = Cheap. Damn, soon as I typed that you started describing what it actually means.

[@wysteriafox2977]

Job listings that have no salary/wage listing burn me up so bad. They purposely leave it off because they know people wont apply if they think the wage is shit and the company doesnt want to put something too high when they could get someone in there who might take less if it's not listed

[@superlynx98]

Every single job posting now just says "competitive salary". It's fucked

[@hillie47]

I find glassdoor is often on the low side for comparing pay. Maybe it's better for starting salaries, but in my field it has little relevance to what's going on for experienced (10 to 15 years and more) folks.

[@sconnyjoe5262]

I find the word "competitive" to equate to average, middle of the road and nothing special.

[@Feroste]

It's a competition between them to pay you as little as possible. I want better pay, not competitive pay.

[@gamingguru2k6]

If they just said, "We offer shit pay," then it would probably be more honest.

[@brooklynborn]

I always joke that they're competing between each other in regard to who can pay the least and still get, much less actually retain employees lol

[@fredagsfys]

I've started to always ask for salary range before even taking the first phone call. 0 time wasted since then. Recruiters seem to appreciate it too!

[@dansugardude2655]

My job actually does pay me a fair and living wage! I absolutely love that about my job. All of my previous jobs were severely underpaid. They were all recreation and leisure jobs (FULL TIME desk member services manager positions) that paid $15.26 per hour or less, in Massachusetts! Try to rent an apartment or buy a home with a mortgage? Nah, “You’re too light on the income, Dan.” Trust me my job now, which is in a different industry entirely, is a godsend.

[@WingedDante]

Competetive pay for these companies isn’t competing for employees, it’s competing to pay the least. They imply one kind of competition but mean the other.

[@almosthelpless9374]

Any wage above minimum wage is technically competitive since it's competing with the minimum wage.

[@AssBlasster]

Lmao what a definition of competition, "we're not the worst option".

[@iceandblaze92]

People that have real skills should not be getting payed even close to the minimum wage dude what the fuck lmao

[@ML-yn9yu]

This is so fucking sad to read..

[@ML-yn9yu]

@@iceandblaze92 right!

[@kawaiicoded]

So, competitive pay is basically like hustling backwards.

[@fubifwjdfubifwjd5167]

Man, I watch your videos for a long time. And so far every time I agree with what you are saying about the industry. My 15 years in SW dev confirms most if not all of this. Once during another interview, employer's representative was trying to feed me all that "office work is the best, remote is terrible". I snapped and said "You know what, there comes the time where companies that do not work mostly in remote fashion will have to die, maybe on their remnants something better will grow." That was somewhere in winter period of 2018-2019. Respect to you Josh for bravery to speak and the integrity with which you stick to the facts. And, a wish, to you Josh: while fighting monsters take great care to not become one.

[@saywhatnow57]

Wow, a free iPhone after 6 months. It's like McDonalds wants to perpetuate the joke that they are the lowest paying place to work.

[@justins.2939]

Become doctor or plumber then

[@saywhatnow57]

@@justins.2939 That doesn't really have much to do with my comment. Why create an advertisement that just highlights how low-paying your jobs are? It's a weird promotion. On a side note, I know a guy who got rich just printing those posters that go on the windows at Mcdonald's. It's amazing what they will pay to much for.

[@justins.2939]

@@saywhatnow57 has a lot to do with it

[@horushyperion76]

They getting paid 13 dollars though compared to other people.

[@infini.tesimo]

Lol military grade meant our Humvees were full of issues and wouldn't start up properly even in winter for north dakota. The real money is made being the contractor company assigning the bid. Tons of profit.

[@the_beat_thief]

I had an interview where I asked what range they were looking at for a salary, so we wouldn't waste each other's time. (I didn't say waste each other's time during the interview.) The interviewer said "salary is not really something that should be talked about during an interview." Needless to say, I never responded for any further interview requests from them. I didn't want to spend multiple days, commute, and hours of my time for something that I possibly couldn't afford to accept.

[@Ddeath.Eaterr]

Wow. Why do they think people are applying for jobs? To volunteer?

[@centrumsaiyan7623]

Spent a year in Software Developer job, this job is shit. You work 200% more to get that competitive pay, while the digital marketers, business analyst be putting 80% of their effort to get same amount of pay as yours.

[@brpadington]

I love this channel. He is showing just hoe little the IT industry values and understands their employees.

[@felixnelsen5896]

Fun fact, some subway, Chipotle, Sonic etc. Stores have a discreet tip jar next to the register, where customers usually dump their change. If you see one of those, it means that particular establishment is paying less than minimum, as employees are "tipped"

[@picklerix6162]

Fast food = job for low skill entry level workers (high school kids). Only the manager “might” make a decent wage.

[@sv2515]

I cannot believe I get to watch this channel for free

[@avernvrey7422]

Thanks for saying this. We need more people telling the truth about wages.

[@zlibz4582]

flexible work schedules with 8hr workdays excluding the coffee break,toilet break sounds good xd

[@heysfb]

my boyfriend is looking for a new job - he already has one but it's gone to shit and he wants something better. he has excellent work ethic, is one of the best employees everywhere he works, he works hard and takes pride in whatever he does, just a good person you'd want working for you. he recently interviewed with an originally promising sounding position only to find out the guy was pulling all kinds of illegal and shady shit, he straight up admitted he did things he shouldn't be doing and wouldn't take care of his workers because he wanted to avoid as much taxes as possible, he was offering this completely bullshit low pay and there were just so many red flags, like if you're already openly admitting to illegal shit what are you gonna try to pull when someone is actually working for you? but then at the same time he bitched and complained endlessly that "no one wants to work" and "everyone just wants to collect unemployment and be lazy" and it's alarming because you know he's not the only person who thinks this way. "let me offer a completely toxic, shady, illegal, dangerous, underpaid work environment where i've made it clear i care more about illegally avoiding taxes than taking care of my workers.....no one wants to work for me? they're all lazy welfare bums" ugh.

[@mohammed.khan07]

I saw a amazons job telling that they offer competitive salary. Im gonna report them now

[@drownword]

it has 2 different meanings depending on who is being spoken to. From a management perspective amongst managers, it means "we've compared salaries with other businesses in our field and flattened the curve to the most minimal salary range". They're paying as little as they can in an attempt not to lose prospects to their competition. Usually offering "fringe benefits" if the range is too low. To a prospective employee, they hear "im going to get payed better than the competition!"

[@1str1ker]

Actual competative pay just lists the pay. I've seen multiple $15+ an hour fast food places that don't say competitive pay

[@meisaak]

Flexible hours = we tell you when you are working. Sometimes we will give you 2 days notice but more like 2 hours...

[@tonystout1545]

Josh, you nailed it again. Keep up the good fight!

[@gokuafrica]

Another buzzword: "Salary: Best in the Industry" Reality: 5$/hour 😂

[@jastat]

In my experience, any company which says, "we pay the best in the industry" usually doesn't.

[@imsorry9467]

"who keeps 50 cal rounds in the bed of their truck? Well most Americans do" That earns a like right there

[@giddeo]

America is the only Country in the World that pays waitresses so little that they have to beg for tips to make ends meet. "Pay our staff so we don't have to!"

[@jefftothefree]

I’m late but you’re content keeps getting better with the truth!

[@Unknown124k]

Mark my words. This channel will change employment. If your an employer then you got to feel like a tyrant. I don't know how long it will take to fix the corporate slavery.

[@koby1]

I always interpreted "competitive pay" differently. When I see a job offering competitive pay, I don't think that means the pay is similar to that of similar positions, I think it means you will need to compete with others for your salary. For example, during raise time a team may have a fixed budget that can go towards raises and promotions. I figured competitive salary means that you compete with your coworkers for a bigger slice of this pie.

[@habibishapur]

The cake is a lie

[@tx5190]

In the UK I asked a manager of a company who are regular finalists in the "best company to work for" scheme, how they achieve this. "Because others are worse than us" was the reply.

[@FrescoFD]

You make me realize that a lot of jargon terms, that I use to hear in my country, is still unknown to me. Well, need to always open up search website & analyse every jargon from now on.

[@matthewsongloong9573]

You said to consult Glassdoor for salary indication?! C'mon man, you were the last one I expected to hear this from! Everyone with some experience (especially you!) already knows that they lag behind!

[@AngelaMerici12]

I don't apply if they don't list what they pay. I just don't want to waste my time anymore.

Competitive title is worth more than competitive pay. I learned that once you put the word Manager on your resume, even if you didn't do squat as a manager, you will always be able to hire into management positions.

[@ThatLoudCockatoo]

Wait, so can I apply for these fast food jobs when I need lunch and don't want to pay? I already have a job but can I do this? Would they know? Lol

[@lg3103]

Right now only jobs advertised in the State of Colorado are required by law to document their pay range within the job posting. For companies advertising jobs nationally, the way around this has been to post an opening as "remote" and state "this role is currently not available in CO". If they must include CO then you will notice the pay range is spread very wide (e.g., starting pay range: $75,000 - $150,000 depending on experience). I have also noticed companies changing job titles to make it more difficult to narrow down transparency via Glassdoor (e.g., changing a new job posting title as "Customer Service Leader" instead of "Customer Service Manager" or my favorite generalist title now is "Head of X" replacing something similar to "Director or VP of X").

[@layezeigwe1916]

“Competitive pay” but the competition is really paying you further under market value than other companies.

[@TheDanaYiShow]

hmm they seem to believe "competitive" means "who can go the lowest let's compete"

[@unmeinks5907]

i love the outside vids

[@Mike-mc3sh]

Yeah competing to see who can pay the least while still retaining the employee.

[@scrappychildhood6633]

Universal Orlando is lowest starting wage for Theme Parks 13$ an hour

[@scrappychildhood6633]

@@vooo1314 Since when do employers no longer take Self employment experience with out LLC

[@AssBlasster]

Damn that's certainly better than my $9.50 pay as a cook (not the lowest paid position) at Universal in 2014.

[@AssBlasster]

@@vooo1314 Yup that was my childhood in orlando, growing up broke poor in&out of motels. The problem is the large deposits needed to move into crappy rental apartment, but weekly motel costs are same or even more expensive than the crappy rental.

[@scrappychildhood6633]

@Roy Hundred Enroling into NEw Horizons Cyper Security program to point with out programing to impatient for it.

[@roan33]

"Hey Josh, How big is your monitor?" "idk, The wall."

[@sarahh2072]

It's free real estate

[@narutofan2312]

Just had two job offers. I signed the paperwork work for both but I'm withdrawing the one with the least pay. Hate to do it but I gotta keep my cards on the table till I'm sure I'm not screwed.

[@googleuser1522]

I’m super impressed you could shoot this in a windstorm, without your mic picking up any of the wind noise

[@googleuser1522]

@@somethingelse1987 I have not

[@seveleleventwelve]

Goddamn Josh! You’re so on the point and brutal, that if you were Quake III player, you’d spawn with quad-damage by default!

[@tinacatharinaeden2711]

One of the things I hate about the job search. By not giving you a salary $$ upfront, the company is in complete control. Then when they offer you the job and tell you the salary they are still in control and you have to make a decision right on the spot. This also sets the stage for how the company will treat you once you're hired.

[@DRNT940]

They do that thing of waiting till your there to tell you it's shit pay because they think either tour to exhausted to refuse or just can't afford to at that point. If they won't NEGOTIATE pay don't apply. I can't express my thoughts beyond that....

[@edwardpresutti1296]

California?....u can't find employees for $25ph much less 18!

[@rhafp]

some states like colorado made it state law to include salary range on job posts, look for jobs there to get an idea and keep cost of living in mind when comparing with your area

[@32266ms]

This is sort of like how online restaurant menus don't include the prices. "They" don't want us thinking about what we're going to make or what we're going to spend. Just a bunch of bells and whistles trying to get us to commit - get anchored to a decision because the act of getting the information we want to make an informed decision has become painful. Same thing, different impact to your life.

[@christianreevepodcastclips]

I gotta say, since you got this editor, your videos have stepped up a level in a big way. Josh seems much more confident and comfortable with this format. Well done guys, great stuff. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@benf1936]

Ive seen jobs that say competitive pay and its minimum wage

[@sunshinerainbows4627]

Company here termed competitive pay at $10 per hour. They use your car (No 50 cents per mile isn't enough to compensate for car repairs) and expect you to be available 24/7. After a while physical injuries become an issue also. The burnout factor is high. Then, if that doesn't add up for you clients threaten to sue you directly for Company errors on top of that. Worst industry ever! Someone needs to develop a formula for pay determination based on education and experience. It's not right that a 20-something and a 50-something are paid the same. When I've asked I get the quiet effect. Unbelievably not right!

[@PrimeTimeChriz]

Your videos are going HAM brotha good stuff man love this

[@tx5190]

"Competitive pay" = minimum wage - because most others are paying it. Good benefits = legal minimums we can get away with termed in such a way that it looks like we are giving you more, eg UK = 20 days minimum holiday are now termed as 28 days holiday pa but that includes the 8 public (bank) holidays.

[@IndyGuy65]

I will never forget a candidate my office took to lunch and had not discussed the pay range before the interview. It turned out the top of range for the job was 12K less than the candidate expected. Very awkward lunch. List a pay range in job ads.

[@Hughmanbeing]

Applied for a job I was way overqualified for a few months ago that didn’t list a salary in the description. Went into the interview and asked straight up what salary was and was told “it’s competitive.” Thankfully a much better job came along and I didn’t have to hear what “competitive” meant.

[@friendmaker9210]

Unranked casual pay

[@chrisaustin6255]

Many companies on Glassdoor post the pay range

[@davidnutt8517]

Hr needs to be on more!

[@MousyBScrappin]

Regarding Military Grade equipment: “If you want logistics join the Army. Marines make do..” - Generation Kill

[@matts1392]

If you haven't listened to any Dead Kennedys, you might appreciate some of their stuff, particularly "Soup is Good Food" and "At my Job"

[@exemida]

You make me feel like im not insane. I've been spending the last few years wondering what all these terms mean because they haven't been using them right.

[@RandomGuy-qn2ub]

Great videos! They always help feel more confident in my job searches