Complicated Bidding War Erupts Over Small Student Festivals | Dragons’ Den

Beach Break Live is the UK's largest student festival attracting 20,000 festival-goers each year. Celia Norowzian and Ian Forshew are seeking an investment of £50,000 in return for a 25% stake but, getting the offers is the easy bit...
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[@PetersonZF]

Peter was already thinking about getting Hamfatter to headline.

[@dopemusic6414]

I literally just had a video ad with a guy on there asking me if I want to start my own online business where I make £10k a month 😂😂😂. Seriously if I had a business making that much do you think I would be telling people lol. I seriously think KZbin should ban these scammers.

[@MegamagRC]

Touker wouldn't get out of bed for 10k

[@JesusJuenger]

I've been getting loads of adverts for those pyramid schemes/scams recently. My guess is COVID-related unemployment has probably led to an uptake in people joining in those kind of schemes, and then they try to make their money back by making those video ads in the same way. Personally I find it quite funny to look at the differences between the American ones, which are all shouty, with dramatic jump-cuts, and people have expensive cars in the video (that they almost certainly do not own) -- and the British ones, which is usually just somebody quietly and calmly talking to camera about "unique online business opportunity". Of course they're both equally fraudulent, but it's fun to see that cute cultural difference.

[@glynnerme5942]

"Wait wait dont leave let me tell you how to earn $10000 dollars a month..." i just had it too

I think you guys need some office space in London.

[@dopemusic6414]

@Aaron K 😂😂😂

[@lord_scrubington]

As far as Duncan is concerned, volunteers not getting paid is like an asset.

[@dilwich]

Duncan turned up at the next festival completely pissed and was removed by security for getting aggressive and salty . . . .

[@NUFC_1]

The captions say PIZZA JONES

[@whoasked7192]

Hey shuddupya face Mr Pizza Jones

[@GinjaFajr]

@NotAPolarBear was he on the list?

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

Yes they do lunch boy. Pizza Jones and Theo The Fetus.

[@bob2000and10]

'After the den the entrepreneurs turned down the offer of investment and instead partnered with Outgoing Ltd. They last ran a festival in 2013 and have since disappeared.'

[@PoopaScoopa]

8:45 James: "peter you've HAD YOUR CHANCE PLEASE let me finish ye?" I think that's british for PETER STFU

[@lalbihari6663]

That ‘YE’ in the end was pretty gangsta at the same time professional

[@nabilmiah4428]

The company was dissolved in 2014, the festivals brought a lot of controversy and faced a lot of pushback.

[@stephjovi]

I googled it. To be fair this show was in 2007 and they were going strong until 2012. From the 1000 they mention there to 20000 and that without a dragon. What happend after?

[@Richylennoxpetre]

Peter looks like he's just regenerated from David Tennant's doctor.

[@FortoFight]

'Cause he's wearing a suit?

[@Richylennoxpetre]

ULOIRAR pinstripe suit, look at DT’s doctor. It’s a vert similar apparel :)

[@FortoFight]

@@Richylennoxpetre The colours are completely off though.

[@TheCuggsmeister]

Lol. I get ya.

[@cl5647]

🤣🤣🤣

[@demandtalent5761]

Surely Peter must be the Dragon who has made the most investments in the den?

[@BobbyTMF]

Yep. Although a lot of the deals don’t go through

[@lord_scrubington]

He has been in for the longest time

[@croftsy2135]

Nah It's Jenny ;)

[@legraphe]

@@croftsy2135 I am out :-D

[@thealien_ali3382]

@@croftsy2135 lol

[@MyMrwrestling]

Rory must be having a lovely day today ..catching seaweed

[@JesusJuenger]

He's got the best job in the world.

[@glynnerme5942]

No Seaweed. No profit.

[@jessicaj8564]

For Fiona❤

[@coinman1261]

Scouring the lonely beaches

[@jasongoodacre]

He catches a wide net.

[@hansfromcongo6322]

For once Perrier was not greedy... Wow

[@Matthews_Media]

Did anyone else hear the chick say "Oooh you're massive!" when Peter stood up?? 😂

[@jont60]

And she was stearing at his crotch when she said it. Lol

[@rushokim]

@@jont60 😅😅😅

[@domainadmin9905]

yeah she has not loyal written all over her 😂

[@dilwich]

Later repeated the same sentence that night when looking at his oversized member.

[@MyMiller999]

Drunk students right next to a surf beach, characteristically a surf beach has large waves in order to surf on them right? Anyone else seeing a problem?

[@callesierra]

MyMiller999 Very good point. WHAT could go wrong?

[@CreamCobblerFiend]

Sharks OMG!!!

[@MyMiller999]

CreamCobblerFiend I mean sharks are bad but what about starfish? 👀

[@Casey-Jones]

its an opportunity, not a problem

[@Manchu504]

Not an issue at all. In the states, there is Hangoutfest, which is hosted on a beach as well. (although not a surfing beach). The festival monitors access to the waters for liability issues, as you mentioned, and it works pretty well. Popular festival

[@KingKiavash]

After the den the entrepreneurs turned down the offer of investment and instead partnered with Outgoing Ltd. They last ran a festival in 2013 and have since disappeared.

[@sandrajovic9304]

Tension between the Dragons today should've been the title

[@mikevarga2058]

I don’t care what anyone says, Rory still has the best job in the world.

[@awumsuri]

Who is Rory?

[@muhammadamer6015]

ddd out there collecting seaweed

[@Likexner]

@@awumsuri A guy who collects seaweed, he was in one of the older episodes. But to get the joke, you have to watch it. I dont know what the business was called or what the number of the episode was though, sadly. Try searching "rory seaweed dragons den", maybe youll find it.

[@gardensoflondonmwgs7836]

I heard Rory has been eating all the seaweed lately due to COVID19.

[@derickwestermandavies1565]

Muhammad Always was the morning we got our mekicmer zz

[@erk489]

Funny how because Debra couldn’t steal a bulk amount of the business due to the lower offers she starts acting like she doing them a favour by dropping.

[@PhilosophyofElivagar]

I can't be the only brit that shudders at the thought of us blatantly copying the American 'Spring Break'. Christ I can barely get over proms

[@rabbitbvt]

god forbid kids have fun. The horror!

[@jenniferharper-christas4825]

It's not about wanting kids to not have fun, it's the influence and copying of American culture that is going on in this country. I dont know how you missed that in his comment.

[@PhilosophyofElivagar]

​@@rabbitbvt I... read Jennifer's comment, you missed my point. Unless you think British kids can't have fun without trying to be American

[@benellis241]

@@PhilosophyofElivagar if anything they have exactly copied the festival Boardmasters at Newquay not spring break ..

[@tima2553]

Jennifer Harper-Christas not copy. Some people can’t go to America, it’s nice to have something similar in the UK. If it’s fun, why not?

[@Goku9000]

The reason why Peter was soo chilled and wasn't greedy was because it was a university event. Peter has 4 daughters and I'm very certain he was thinking about them. The fact that he wants his daughters to have brag of owning the whole festival... What a dad 👏

[@chrisvanegmond3157]

Good take! Probably right :)

[@Goku9000]

@@chrisvanegmond3157 yup

[@Fiskie666]

Smart observation :)

[@theovolz3073]

0:50 early on, Theo always looks so incredulous at what’s being pitched. I’ve noticed it in other episodes. Weird that he often winds up making an offer, too.

[@gregarmstrong6077]

Yeah, he often has a 'wtf am I listening to?' face at the beginning no matter what comes later.

[@Involent]

Bear in mind that these episodes aren't edited chronologically. They're edited for effect. As with any reality show, the producers assign each individual a character to play and edit the footage accordingly. That facial expression could have made at any point in the pitch-or, considering the fact that multiple episodes are shot in a single day, even from another pitch entirely.

[@jamesmurray1138]

Duncan didn’t take that well when he realised he was incorrect

[@5950ziel]

It's always easy to negotiate when you've got a good business prospects.

[@ers965]

From a quick google looks like this festival ran 6 years from 2007 to 2013 before it stopped. Not bad run for a small indie festival.

[@ZevMeth_originaljewishmusic]

יישר כוח!

[@BobbyTMF]

Wonder if they made a profit

[@gregwood5083]

Was still going in 2019 honey

[@Wirralwonderer]

So funny that Duncan didn’t even stand up to greet her like the others did

[@vorpal22]

I love Peter's tie, and yes, it was impressive that for once, he was the least greedy, especially since I think he has almost 10x the wealth of all the other dragons.

[@Jason-un9ps]

What does that mean?

[@peterinfamilyguy]

Damn.. it's 2020, they must be making a cumulative revenue of a quadrillion pounds and a cumulative net profit of four hundred billion pounds. Not bad!

[@CynicalScientist261]

Fun fact: Deborah is actually an immortal being.

[@lord_scrubington]

She has a patent for immortality

[@RonnieVaiArovo]

Deborah was greedy here, even if she had more expertise. Peter's negotiating skills outshone all, even the likes of the impressive Mr James Caan!

[@NUFC_1]

Deborah: Patent

[@Finderskeepers.]

Debatable. I wouldnt use the word greedy, I believe she would bring that much value. The smart move would of been to see if she would do a buy back. Nice to see a comment that isnt im out. Deborah has actual expertise unlike James or Peter as you acknowledge. I did like the saber rattling between the 2, but Peter has an advantage over most of the dragons even if sometimes its just perception, reality means he has less time and thats where Deborahs expertise and contacts make the difference, imo.

[@dlucey123]

@@Finderskeepers.if Peter invested I expect he would not have necessarily been directly involved because it’s not his area of expertise but I’m sure he’d have a team who could give them the targeted support. He’s worth well over a £1 billion by now. He doesn’t need to have specific experience because he’s rich enough to make it work.

[@calibcrockett]

Deborah: Because I am in a position of power above you peons I want 40% of your business! Other dragons: make reasonable offers Deborah: Now that I think about it you guys should keep a level of control, after all it is your business!

[@MsNoPixel]

I never realized how tall Peter was until watching him stand up at the end, I thought oh he’s gotta be like 6’2-6’3 but nope, Peter is *6’7* HOLY.

[@iarland9693]

Anyone know how this played out after. That festival go ahead?

[@nabilmiah4428]

The company was dissolved in 2014

[@psycoticbastard]

This episode would give an aspirin a headache

[@thealien_ali3382]

I like u do me

[@maherronnieabouhamdan2531]

7:45 That gulp from Peter. He knew he was making an offer he never thought he would

[@mspolkadots21]

I believe you put the wrong equity stake in your caption. They're asking for 10%, not 25%

[@doctorpanigrahi9975]

Damn look at that Ad stamps. Even millionaires want that Ad revenue.

[@C0D97]

Use adblock

[@inspectorconscious2388]

I'm reading in all these comments in a British accent. It's amazing seeing you all argued. I'm sitting hete arguing in English.

[@00Kuja00]

Good guy Duncan strikes again. I agree, people should be paid. Go Duncan! :)

[@caitlinx3816]

They’re volunteers so of course they’re not gonna be paid. Duncan was unreasonable in this one

[@JoshSmeda]

Just in time for lunch!

[@combosure]

PERIOD

[@penmerch2804]

7:25 "somebody dying of a drugs overdose" WAH!

[@adiands850]

12:26 "Oooooh you're massive!"

[@bettywhite2694]

If Peter was single he could prolly smash nonstop

[@Ev3rmoving]

Thanks for your input, Betty

[@bettywhite2694]

Level Up no problem bro 😘

[@martintaylor3866]

Be funny if he turned round and said ooooh you're a dog

[@malkchatters1046]

You know its going to get serious when they zoom in on James Khans nose.

[@TheCatBilbo]

Did the nose invest?

[@AzanJacobs]

I feel like Peter makes 5 deals for every 1 deal another dragon makes.

[@vader745]

Bannatyne was butt hurt from being wrong at start about paying staff LOL

[@mycroftsanchez901]

Anyone else notice Theo always wants 40%?

[@HistoryonYouTube]

I thought they were going to mess it up at the end!

[@ZevMeth_originaljewishmusic]

Touker: you can use my office space in London to host your festivals, just choose me!

[@DerekWong967]

Touker looks like Theo after a stroke

[@ZevMeth_originaljewishmusic]

@@DerekWong967 Haha, lol!

[@doctormustard4595]

6:25 frustrating negotiations begin

[@joeisaacs5756]

Anyone else watch these religiously on lunch breaks?

[@namnack]

Not only that, the question is asked 100 times every upload.

[@NUFC_1]

no

[@antonydandrea]

James kahn offer is 100 percent loan

[@kingdomperspectivesmindset5595]

'Beach Break Live' as far as im aware is still going strong. In their 2012 BBL the two met up with Levi Roots. Well done guys 😀🥰

[@chrisk5981]

Finished in 2013

[@NUFC_1]

Try using Google to do your research

[@nabilmiah4428]

They were dissolved, the two founders started a marketing agency after called Seed Marketing.

[@ciaranm183]

@12:26 "Ooh you're massive" HAHAHAHAHA

[@techtitanuk5609]

I like James's hes so cool headed

[@peterd788]

How many small students are there? This must be a very limited market.

[@thavambase6907]

From now on my service in these videos will be to create timestamps for 'dragon fights' dragon fight at: 8:28 :D (if you want more of these timestamps for future videos show it by liking this comment) thanks

[@lord_scrubington]

I appreciate this greatly. I always love when the dragons tell at each other XD

[@NUFC_1]

no thanks

[@thavambase6907]

Tom James you destroyed my reason to exist :(

[@differenttakethanmost]

Can’t believe any of them are at all interested in out and out debauchery of barely legal a”adults”- not one of them seems to have the slightest inclination that this may be a REALLY bad idea- but who cares if it makes money?!?

[@jp2650]

Pizza "I'll undercut everyone" Jones.

[@magusxxx]

I just got done watching the most recent Australian Shark video and when the first offer was 40% all the others chastised her for making it. But here, another day at the office.

[@LeClaw]

You should see the American version. They'd just want to buy the entire company or at least 51% of it.

[@ruthaguantia5373]

When I think about Britain, I think about Peter 😊

[@thejuiceweasel]

Theo and Deborah offering 35%, this is so weird, did they not announce split percentages back then, or was it too hard to calculate in their heads?

[@ballinblaza]

they offered 30%. debras greedy ass is the one who said 35 at first

[@juffjaff]

Aaaah, Fyre Festival's younger sibling!

[@B_Bodziak]

Younger, more successful sibling

[@marvinholman7649]

Looks like it was at least successful for a few years and they didn't have Ja Rule in their corner, lol

[@vooveks]

Except it’s totally nothing of the sort, but yeah.

[@jasongoodacre]

Oh is there a black magnetise card available too??

[@Piingzi]

As of their 2019 accounts, they have current assets of £1.6m inlcuding 700k stock, 772k debtors, 165k cash in bank. Liabilities of 770k to creditors Total net assets: 900k Profit And Loss account of 238k Shareholders funds of 902k Not doing too bad!

[@Ab-bn8px]

Wow

[@thephantom4661]

What was so complicated about that? Each Dragon made an individual offer. Also they should have told Deborah to shut it for trying to screw them.

[@mariotesli7702]

Guys, search Beach Break Live on youtube, they were rocking and rolling few years back not sure what is happening now. They even had Ed Sheeran at their festival 8 years ago singing A Team, amazing stuff.

[@BobbyTMF]

That’s awesome to hear.

[@nabilmiah4428]

They were dissolved in 2014

[@rajan1252]

How was that complicated?

[@louistracy6964]

Long way from Stonehenge, ain't we

[@ZrixTheMagician3]

8:34 Oof James

[@hamstersmash]

PJ reminds me of Harvey Spectre, always winning

[@jrbs]

Organising large events requires intricate knowledge of crowd management and dynamic risk assessments. It's a complex subject and needs a contractor to manage this.

[@liamg2925]

Debbie invented the Karen haircut

[@Lowkeyyshorts]

Duncan probably feeling left out after declaring himself out maybe a tad too early 😂😂

[@coinman1261]

AM OOUT

[@NUFC_1]

Duncan : I'm oat.

[@Lowkeyyshorts]

Tom James he actually sounded like that 🤣🤣🤣

[@BobbyTMF]

He’s obviously very smart but he’s quite ignorant on a lot of things it seems. I guess he is abit older, but it’s like he completely doesn’t understand some newer businesses haha.

[@martynclarke8400]

This series should be renamed to Peters Den :D

[@B_Bodziak]

The Description says it attracts 20,000 festival goers. Is this a typo or did this festival go from 2k to 20k since this originally aired?

[@jamest3336]

100% chance of rain

[@briangoudie3531]

Silly couple... Deborah s knowledge is gold...big mistake

[@NateJGames]

AWESOME

[@SirTaha01]

NATEJNOOB

[@teddym2808]

Investment didn't go through and they are closed.

[@christopherp6370]

and then covid came

[@IanInChengdu]

this was a longtime ago

[@jaffaman99]

This clip is so old it’s more likely the plague interrupted their plans.

[@mrm5183]

These 2 guys have had grandchildren since this pitch not sure Covid caused them too many problems

[@richardb22]

Last festival 2013

[@kantagara]

What happened to this ? Was searching for it on google but couldn't find much

[@peterpowis4145]

I really think they should have jumped at Theo and Deborahs offer! 2 dragons on board and Deborahs expertise in the business! It's a no-brainer really!!

[@Casey-Jones]

📂 Duncan └📁 Volunteers └⚠️ This folder is empty

[@barneyclifton6402]

'1080p'

[@OliHarris]

Fyre Festival??

[@ultimanecat3091]

Do NOT mess with ma money ~ a student

[@Likexner]

James says an untruth (Peters offer did not involve a loan, but a buy back) and then he cant be corrected. I wouldnt like that if i was the entrepreneur. It shows his character.

[@stepheng4218]

I have an idea for a festival on a tropical Island where loads of models will be there to boost the profile. I just need all of your monies and in return I will let you work for free and free accommodation

[@NateJGames]

Awesome

[@SirTaha01]

HAHHAHA

[@sweatyguysteve8087]

whats for lunch today lads?

[@Zauchi]

I just had breakfast. lol

[@Ryanjoned163]

Can of special brew and a dab of fet 🖕😎

[@Unknown_bruce]

Bread & IF

[@boltywolty123]

Chicken poppers cheesy pasta!

[@vegantina6565]

Spaghetti 🍝

[@pokerdegen1626]

Dunken: I’m uoot

[@Becu1001a]

If you would like to come to Australia you can get all this and more for free. We will also include a large hungry 12 foot Great White Shark to keep you occupied between waves and some optional snakes and scorpions in the camping area if you like.

[@dimitar4y]

lol peter shut up xD

[@sdkhx]

If John culshaw and Stephen Graham had a love child.

[@techtitanuk5609]

Should have got Deborah shes literally in that sector

[@MrBooBeeDoo]

Simon Pegg has let himself go.

[@NeoDragonEWW]

Interesting business. I'm not even going to bother googling. With the covid situation, these guys are out of business this year or next :D

[@NUFC_1]

went bust in 2013 actually

[@EmperorAsad]

Anyone care to tell me why Peter is so special compared to the other dragons?

[@brenfit4257]

James was bit Snappy too Peter... He needs too get out more..... Peter is Gent....

[@vijeykartha8561]

is it me , or is it that celia looks a lot like cobie smulders ( from HIMYM)

[@nathanmetcalfe1478]

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