Ostinatos used by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard

[@SoraiaLMotta]

they look so simple, but yet are so powerfull

[@composingacademy8270]

They really are and ones you can associate with the film almost immediately. Thank you for watching!

[@predatorx8081]

I've been waiting for new uploads for some time now. Thank you 👍🏿

[@composingacademy8270]

Apologies for the wait! Thanks for watching!

[@mikemeier5004]

Great video, as always. I really enjoy to watch how you dissect these great pieces, making the "magic" behind them understandable for us.

[@composingacademy8270]

Apologies for the delay but thank you so much for the comment, I am so pleased you have found the video useful!

[@BeatMax2023]

Thanks for sharing. Nice presentation of music theory. :)

[@tereseabannister4176]

Love! Just when I thought I couldn’t learn anymore about ostinatos! Thank you, Simon! Great video!♥️

[@composingacademy8270]

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

[@gabosmendez]

Your channel is awesome, my friend! Keep it up! I'm addicted to all of your videos.

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, wow thank you so much, I really appreciate the positive feedback!

[@RangerX___]

Incredible quality. I hope your channel blasts off to the moon. Thank you!

[@composingacademy8270]

I really appreciate that, thank you!

[@neogrammofon]

Thanks for the video! You made me realize again how crucial a part ostinatos play in the music I love :)

[@composingacademy8270]

I am so pleased you have found it useful, thank you for watching :-)

[@abdelrahmansalah5765]

I am new subs to your channel and it was a very useful and entertaining video thanks very much

[@hankscorpio8928]

Phenomenal video. Thank you.

[@ChristianSandviknes]

What string library did you use for the Dark Knight and Defiance ostinatos? They sounded very good, and the Dark Knight one was spot on as well

[@mikesoundmaster2357]

Happy to see you again, Simon 😊 Welcome back! ❤💐 Thank you for the Video

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you, must be quicker at uploading videos to my channel!

[@peacevalleyaudio5496]

This is excellent. Oh the things you can do with an ostinato. Thank you Simon.

[@composingacademy8270]

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

[@martinbianchedimusica]

greatest !! i am from argentina ! Gracias amigo maravilloso tutorial

[@cassidytoysnhk]

The ostinato at the beginning of One Day from Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End is the best I've ever heard. Also the ostinato in the background during the love theme in the transition from Victory to One Day is perfect, re mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa do re re mi do re re mi do re re mi do re re mi do re re mi...:) Another one is Chevaliers de Sangreal. Also excellent use of the French Horn after 2:18.

[@StsFiveOneLima]

Jesus Christ, yes. Zimmer is a master of this kind of thing. I was thinking of POTC when I first started watching this video. And for the record I'm a musical idiot.

[@harrymavro7332]

Hey @composing Academy, love your work. Hope you can be more consistent in your posting - your the only youtuber that is extremely beneficial in score theory. You are amazing and so helpful

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, thank you for the comment! I try and upload a couple of videos a month but sometimes get waylaid with other commitments. Am trying to get better at this! Appreciate you watching, thank you!

[@harrymavro7332]

@@composingacademy8270 Love you

[@storiesreadaloud5635]

Here's an idea for your next product -- incorporating diagrams of the MIDI , or the actual files of these types of orchestrations and techniques. I don't read music so well, so this visuals in your videos are incredible useful.

[@composingacademy8270]

Great suggestion - many thanks. Great to hear that the visuals in the video were useful - they took quite a bit of time to put together!

[@storiesreadaloud5635]

@@composingacademy8270 definitely

[@BennyHarry]

Another great video! Thank you so much for making these. So helpful!!❤

[@EdgyNumber1]

Very useful. I can transpose these ideas onto much more modern sounds into some of the melodies I'm creating. Great vid.

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you, appreciate it!

[@Gabbar_11322]

Best ostinato is used in " now we are free ".💯

[@jon_do]

This video was fun to watch. Both informative and quick. Thanks!

[@composingacademy8270]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!

[@jenstornell]

Nice video! What plugin do you use for the ostinato?

[@KaiWenFranklin]

I love that desk you have. Was it custom built?

[@magdielrodriguez6437]

Excellent video, always full of knowledge and help to better understand orchestral compositions. Thanks!

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you for watching and the comment, I really appreciate it!

[@danpaq3164]

Awesome! Great video! Thank you! Makes me want to write music! Keep up the good work !!

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you, really appreciate the comment!

[@cheesesavage3353]

Thanks for bringing me the video I wanted! Thank you!

[@composingacademy8270]

No problem! You are very welcome & I am so pleased you liked it!

[@mapsmakestudios]

These videos are an amazing help to kick start the learning of music to all i love your channel keep up the good work!!

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you, I really appreciate the comment. Glad you liked it!

[@maplefoxx6285]

I love your videos, they are some of the best lessons online, I will be memorizing all these soon hahah, thanks! You know what is crazy, me and Hanz kind of write the same way. I am just not so great at putting it all into full orchestra yet. You really should check out the music of the video game Hollow Knight, it is next level ostinatos in a few themes like Hornet theme is epic.

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you for your kind words! Yes I should really take a deep dive into the soundtrack for Hollow Knight. I've heard a few tracks from it but I think it definitely needs some further exploring!

[@ShureShot15]

Great video! Just a point to clarify, the last example is still diatonic but to C 1/2, whole diminished. So all still diatonic. Greatly informative video.

[@massimosammi]

Thanks for this fantastic video! May I ask which brass library are you using? It sounds really great! Are the strings CSS?

[@grobinson9352]

Thank you so much! I don't know why I feel so intimidated by Ostinatos---but seeing how simple the patterns are I am floored! Thank you

[@composingacademy8270]

You are very welcome, I am pleased you have found the video useful!

[@jerronimo13]

Simple minds are easily fooled

[@dpsoulofmusic]

very useful, hope you make more videos about cinematic music

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, I will have another video coming out soon!

[@charliemcgrain]

In simple terms the ostinato is the drum and bass of an orchestra composition: melody and rhythm, pedals and routes.

[@patzumbrunn]

Thats great Thanx a lot. Wich librarie did you use for the strings ?

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you - it was a mixture of Cinematic Studio strings and Pacific Strings

[@patzumbrunn]

@@composingacademy8270 thanx a lot .CSS , i tought it. Greetings Pat

[@jeffgarrison7056]

I love cinematic scores. I even had the Star Wars soundtrack by John Williams on record as a child....

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you!

[@JakePurches-Base2music]

Very helpful thank you.

[@composingacademy8270]

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

[@StraightLOL]

excellent vid simon

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you!

[@golafs]

nice! what library are you using for the strings?

[@pjdahmen]

Great tutorial and well done.

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you! Really appreciate it.

[@AudioknapAcademy]

Thanks! Interesting lesson

[@composingacademy8270]

Glad you liked it, thank you for watching!

[@SashaBitbroyt]

Nice tricks. Please make video about Ramin Djawadi styles and one about Mamoru Fujisawa ( Joe Hisaishi ) styles.

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, will definitely look into these, thank you!

[@flavioishimaru5399]

Well done, sunreal 😮super👍(Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer)Interstellar❤❤❤

[@composingacademy8270]

Really pleased you enjoyed it, thank you for watching!

[@JanCarlComposer]

I personally do not really need the lower part of your video but good content. Thank you.

[@composingacademy8270]

Thanks for watching!

[@jayprakashmishra6471]

you are best thankyou so much

[@handwoundpickups6555]

Brilliant thanks ever so much.👍

[@composingacademy8270]

You are welcome, thank you for watching!

[@Faltermeyer123]

awesome breakdown as always!

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you so much!

[@moabl2020]

what sample orchestra do you use ? Thanks

[@curioso....]

Nice lesson! What key is the Salt piece in? Seems to be ambiguous, almost C minor/ or Db minor?

[@petertremblay3725]

Graham Plowman is one of the best composer currently, his style and originality is unmatched!

[@Zaz_Prod]

Thank you so much !

[@composingacademy8270]

You're welcome!

[@IHBable]

Very informative, thanks very much :)

[@composingacademy8270]

You are very welcome, thank you for watching!

[@FreakieFan]

The Salt ostinato really isnt chromatic at all. It’s a basic octatonic scale ostinato (diminished scale)

[@muso346]

The Salt ost is fantastic. Is it essentially in Cm here? Or just chromatic/no real key?

[@Anthony-th7tr]

YAY THESE VIDEOS ARE BACK

[@composingacademy8270]

Ha, thank you! I will try and be more prompt with my uploading going forward!

[@sonicsatsuma1256]

Welcome back my favourite tutor 😊

[@composingacademy8270]

Haha thank you!

[@sonicsatsuma1256]

Seriously, your Xmas tutorial was a game changer for me. From arrangement, to layering then mix. You have a clean and calm delivery but, most importantly, a way of being succinct with enough detail to pull the concepts together. Nothing is hidden, no “trade secrets” or “shortcuts”. Just the foundations, well explained and enough for the audience to experiment and work out the gaps for themselves. Your teaching is genius! I follow a lot of people and learn loads but you are the only one I can replay a 10 min demo through a few times, make notes, apply to the DAW, and finish a piece. Hard to put into words. The only Patreon channel I pay for is Cue Tube, just for the scoring content but I’d actually pay to follow you mate!! You don’t even ask for anything back for sharing your knowledge. The most underrated person I follow on KZbin.

[@dicktempelaar]

@@sonicsatsuma1256 Totally agree !!

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you both, I am so pleased it was useful & really appreciate your feedback!

[@ricardohernandez2771]

¡Muchas Gracias!

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you for watching!

[@crouge]

Great video, thank you! How do you deal with delays when working with Ostinatos? Just shift them to a bit left or there is another way? this is challenging, to perfectly sync with the tempo.

[@marcgw496]

Some daws come with delay compensation. For example I use FL studio and in the mixer interface you can set delay times in milliseconds for specified tracks, although if you don’t know the exact delay time that is going to be tricky.

[@vargshagrath]

Thanks!!, One question, while making a composition and accidentally using an ostinato with those shapes, am I infringing on copyright?

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, I would try and avoid copying these as they are fairly well known but it is easy to do something similar by changing a few notes. Hope that helps!

[@ikaray1775]

Thanks so much man ❤❤❤

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you for watching!

[@cheribarkman1784]

Thank you

[@composingacademy8270]

You are welcome, thank you for watching!

[@FreakieFan]

Writing the Da Vinci Code ostinato as a sextuplet is very confusing. The piece is written in 6/8.

[@PabloSaavedra84]

And the only difference is it’s that little 6 at the top of every figure…

[@jackdennis9286]

@@PabloSaavedra84no, 6/8 is 6x 8th notes per measure the sextuplet notation has 12. It would make more sense if written as 16th notes with no need for any tuplets. Writing it as sextuplets would imply there’s a need for them, such as the piece being in common or cut time. If written in 6/8 there’s no need for any tuplet

[@PabloSaavedra84]

@@jackdennis9286 but in the video there is no time signature

[@sousaphone1968]

​@jackdennis9286 yes 2 sextuplets is the same thing as 1 measure of all 8th notes in 6/8 and another measure of all 8th notes in 6/8

[@sousaphone1968]

@FreakieFan - After listening to the soundtrack I respectfully disagree about the piece being in 6/8. I believe it is in a slow 2/4. The way the slow melody moves does not make sense if counted out and conducted to show in 6/8. The stronger felt pulse really feels like 123456 123456 (2 sextuplets in 2/4) as opposed to 123 456 123 456 (2 measures of 6/8 with the strong pulse on 1 and 4)

[@rolanddurr8274]

Thanks for this detailed analysis, but... how do these simple ostinato patterns create a certain mood or emotion? Or which kind of ostinato do I need to create emotions like tension, fear or relief?

[@jeffb1886]

Helpful as always!! Could you do a video on exactly HOW you program one in?? Fast piano playing? Writing them in a midi editor? A dedicated arpeggiator plug in? Some other technique??

[@xuxuang8574]

The best way is to punch in the midi.

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, apologies for the delay. Depending on how fast the tempo is, I either play the ostinatos in on my midi controller or draw them in with a mouse. If I am doing the latter, I always make sure I am tweaking the velocities so there is variation. Hope that helps!

[@emreteselli6020]

Thank you!

[@composingacademy8270]

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

[@uja1096]

Just discovered you channel. Would love your breakdown after 5:30 of Detach track from interstellar and 0:50-1:22 of John Williams Planet Krypton from Superman. That would be epic.

[@composingacademy8270]

Great suggestions! Will add this to my list of future videos, thank you!

[@xoundsbythimo4614]

Yea! Your back😀

[@composingacademy8270]

Yep! Thanks for watching 😀

[@namanshah8354]

great video

[@composingacademy8270]

Thank you so much!

[@monivibes1]

These ostanatos are played by spicato articulation ,right ?

[@suga4all]

Nice! Didn't know that. What is the difference between an ostinato and an arpeggio?

[@composingacademy8270]

Where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord.

[@suga4all]

@@composingacademy8270 I see, very interesting. Thank you!

[@Dave1507]

What is the difference between arpeggio and ostinato?

[@michaelturnerrr]

Interesting video, I always thought the repeated notes in the ostinato was arpeggiation.

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, they are slightly different, where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that makes sense!

[@michaelturnerrr]

@@composingacademy8270 Makes perfect sense. Thank you very much.

[@xisotopex]

I come up with stuff like this all the time, I just find myself unable to expand it.

[@phurstfootball7]

Please make a video on Music Theory

[@composingacademy8270]

Great suggestion - thank you, I will make sure to to make a video on theory!

[@FelixHoutman]

What libraries are used for the string sections?

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, it is Pacific Strings by Performance Samples with a little bit of Cinematic Studio Strings. Hope that helps!

[@FelixHoutman]

@@composingacademy8270 Thanks! That really helps ;)

[@halivudestevez2]

what's the difference between arpeggio vs ostinato?

[@juandiegoarenas6284]

that a ostinato use notes out of the chord. In fact, almost every one that he show was purely arpeggios

[@vivekjadhav2210]

What is your Mac studio ram storage and number of cpu and GPU cores please reply me

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, the Mac Studio is 24core CPU, 64GB of RAM and 1TB internal storage. Hope that helps!

[@xisotopex]

whats the difference between an ostinato and an arpeggio? they seem like the same thing, same purpose...

[@composingacademy8270]

Where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that helps!

[@markpeam8549]

Is there a reason why we don't simply call these an arpeggio? Especially when they hit every quarter note.

[@zaqareemalcolm]

an ostinato can be thought of/made with an arpeggiated chord, but a piece of music can have a sequence of arpeggios that aren't one pattern repeated over and over another thing that can happen is that someone can write an ostinato to remain on the same set of notes even when the underlying harmony changes

[@jerronimo13]

You make something very basic seem like a brilliant idea from a brilliant mind, this basic arrangement was made centuries ago.

[@MrMikomi]

Hi, where did you get that desk?

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, it was actually custom made by a local carpenter out of scaffold boards to my requirements. I love it, one of my favourite pieces of furniture!

[@boarofwar84]

Great content, Cowboy. I love this shit.

[@composingacademy8270]

Ha, thank you so much!

[@alleyway3215]

Hans Zimmer proves you do not need raw skill to be a successful film composer today.

[@FreakieFan]

Because Zimmer has neither skill nor talent.

[@bigfefu]

thank you so much for this video, i really love ostinatos!!

[@composingacademy8270]

You're welcome! Thank you for watching!

[@ikaray1775]

Can you do a video about howard shore please?❤

[@composingacademy8270]

You are not the first person to ask me this so it has definitely been added to the list of future videos!

[@ikaray1775]

@@composingacademy8270 splendid

[@debarjo]

Very nice tutorial and topic, but I felt showing or playing the sound from time to time as opposed to describing them would have been a little better experience, as it's difficult to see the point if someone merely describes a musical piece.

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, thank you for the feedback. I really appreciate it and one to think about for future videos.

[@allwaizeright9705]

Let's hope that FLAME doesn't think they are stealing his Joyful Noise Ostinato..

[@PedraamJam]

Whats the difference with arpeggios?

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord. An ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that makes sense!

[@jayantjrathod]

Very Informative Thank You 😊

[@composingacademy8270]

You are very welcome, thank you for watching!

[@arturaravidi]

Nice ❤

[@composingacademy8270]

Glad you liked it, thank you for watching!

[@saxtra97]

How much do i need to pay you to get private classes?

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, send me an email (email is in info) & I will come back to you on availability and prices.

[@keigoakaitokei_itochan-nel995]

I mostly use this technique for making my own song, and i just knew the name that it's called oscinato 😭

[@raffa9783]

Why are these not called arpeggios?

[@N-JKoordt]

Ostinati

[@xuxuang8574]

Ostinatos pretty much define the superhero sound...

[@composingacademy8270]

Absolutely! Thank you for watching!

[@pennywise5095]

And great white sharks

[@tonycowin]

It's been a stole motif for action and thrillers since the 30s. You're correct in saying it's now almost a cliche of superhero flicks.

[@xuxuang8574]

@@tonycowin I think they are all copying the Elfman score on the Burton batman...

[@tonycowin]

@@xuxuang8574 Yeah good shout. That seems to have set a trend.

[@akshayg3363]

Fun fact: James Newton Howard composed The Dark Knight and Defiance in the same year

[@composingacademy8270]

Yes, a very talented composer who can effortlessly switch styles. I have known him to write 4 contrasting scores simultaneously! :-)

[@BoxerEngineSounds]

so all movie music is one big ostinato, quite obstinate indeed

[@commodoor6549]

Don't over think it.

[@juandiegoarenas6284]

Sorry, but you're talking about arpeggios more than ostinatos, especially Zimmer's.

[@mass-1128]

Sounds like an arpeggio.

[@composingacademy8270]

Hi, they are very similar. Where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that helps clarify?

[@mass-1128]

@@composingacademy8270 Almost like wave sequencing in synthesis.

[@blasterxt9]

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