Conclusive evidence that Michael Jordan had the LEAST help

[@62lceaser]

Many ppl try to call the 90's watered down. But what they really mean is there were no superteams this decade. Unlike the 80s, where the Lakers and Celtics had the most talent in the league in the 90s, the talent was equally distributed, which usually means more parity. However, two dudes dominated the decade MJ and the Dream. Knowing this, the fact that their top two for least amount of help isn't surprising and truly highlights their greatness.

[@Quack_attack_]

My little brother said MJ played against plumbers and I told him MJ beat more 60+ win teams in the playoffs than anybody else so those plumbers could really ball 🪠🏀😂 , you're exactly right those talent was spread all throughout the league....if it weren't for MJ and those bulls 8 different teams would have won in the 11 years from 90-2000(assuming whoever MJ beat would have won)

[@86twin]

@@Quack_attack_only 4 different teams won in the 90’s and Chicago and Detroit won 7 of those championships. The East Central division single-handedly ran the 90’s

[@John6-40]

​@Quack_attack_ Your little bro just isn't old enough to know the other stars of the 90's. People tend to forget the good and great players that weren't the best. For example, people remember Wilt and maybe Jerry West, but they forget Havlicek and Clyde Frazier. Future kids (when you are older) will remember LeBron and Curry. They'll forget guys like Lillard and Paul George. From the 90's, kids don't know Drexler, Ritchmond, Sprewell, Timmy Hardaway, Larry Johnson, Mourning, Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Robinson, Ewing, Kemp, or even a guy like Karl Malone. These guys and way more were stars in the 90's. Sad they are forgotten.

[@SonnyK248]

@@Quack_attack_ In a watered down league it's easier to win 60 games. If a WNBA team wins 60 games does that mean their as good as the men? Or are they just beating a lot of WNBA teams?

[@youtubenightcrawler9571]

@@SonnyK248 If there were a bunch of wnba teams that did that good how can u belittle that accomplishment? N in the nba that is still a bigger accomplishment. Wat a joke argument.

[@tudorm6838]

Jordan's teammates were good role players (so they deserve their championship rings), but none of them could replace Jordan to help him with load management. Year after year, month after month, and night after night, Jordan had to be 100% Jordan.

[@John6-40]

It's wild how LeBron fans hype up guys like Pippen and Grant, as well as guys like Steve Kerr, who averaged 7 ppg, then turn around and downplay guys like AD, Kyrie, Wade, Love, Bosh, etc. Even guys like Ilguaskas and Mo Williams were arguably better than Horace Grant or anyone Jordan had outside of Pippen and maybe Rodman. The aging Shaq that LeBron got was better than any Center Jordan ever had. Westbrook was better than any PG Jordan had. Mario Chalmers was easily as good as Kerr or Armstrong. LeBron had more help and it's laughable that anyone makes this argument. It just goes to show their age and lack of research.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@John6-40 basketball is nit ppg. But if u wnt look like that Gervin 25 ppg best scorer in 70s with Jabbar and champion from Lakers Orlando Woolridge 22 ppg in Bulls and jordan with supporting cast who score 45 points couldnt win 1 game vs Bird 🤣 only jordan fans start convo with how many ppg team mates have well u proved kove bryant and shaq are nobidies. They average 57 ppg in lakers together but Ben Wallace 9 ppg won ring. Scoring dont matter anyone can cancel joedans 30 ppg Shaq Malone did it but only Rodman and Pippen can stoo best players to cancel jordans points.

[@zzzvain9710]

who won ring u deranged : Ben Wallace 9 ppg or Shaq+ Kobe 57 ppg ? Scoring doesnt matter if u cant stop others to score. Jordan 30 ppg anyone can cancel him but only Pippen and Rodman can stop superstars from cancel jordan points.

[@zzzvain9710]

shaq was 470 lbs and 17 years in NBA when he played with Bron. U just proved how deranged jordan fans are

[@KtośInny-k9l]

LBJ are blind to facts and like delusional statment... FUN fact most ever teams in PO who have 50 or more wins elimanation ever have not lbj, not duncan, not magic, not mj but KOBE... Kobe beat most teams ever with minimum 50 wins... FUN FACT Dallas was first team sience LAKERS 2010 who beat 3 teams with minimum 50 wins goin to finals... lbj beats teams belowe 42 wins... gout?? not for me, for me is a chetter, lier and flooper and a pussy

[@spitnificent]

@@zzzvain9710you make no sense, log off.

[@LanierHale-oq3dr]

The NBA----in my opinion ---is a bombed-out shell of its former glory.

[@John6-40]

People don't even watch the NBA anymore. Most kids might watch highlights sometimes, if that. They watch guys like Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wright, and then argue with Jordan fans online. That's all they do. They don't even realize that Shannon and Nick are actors. They play the role of LeBron fanboy just to get fanboys to watch. They're getting played and don't even realize. Truly wild.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@John6-40 REAL MEN NEVER WATCH JORDAN GAMES KNOWING THAT PIPPEN WAS LEAFDER AND JORDAN SELLOUT. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT U R LIKE WOMAN NOT A MEN.

[@guhsuckyamudda586]

It's like modern Japanese society vs Japan of WWII.

[@holdthetruthhostage]

Unwatchable Trash 🗑️ that's more CW DRAMA than sports

[@faronanderson2536]

Nobody will ever understand until you see Michael's game with your own eyes. Then, and only then, you will truly understand that there is nobody even close to being on his level. Trust me, I guarantee you will be convinced. In my opinion, the only people who disagree are the ones who are born out of due time and those who are jealous of him. I doubt I will ever see anyone like him in my lifetime. This dude is a once in a lifetime player.

[@WSNight-]

I'm 45 and I seen him play his still not the goat I prefer Bill Russell

[@marka.8535]

I was a showtime Lakers fan born in L.A. but I was and still am a superfan of the obvious Goat . Michaels defense may be even more legendary than his jaw dropping offense. Jerry West said M.J. has no weaknesses. Common sense to any objective person capable of critical thinking. Also no one worked harder on their craft .

[@zzzvain9710]

@@marka.8535 HE CANT SHOOT 3S PLAY DEFENSE (IVERSON XPOSES HIM ON DRIBBLING, MAGIC ON POST UP) AND TOO SELFISH. ALSO 5 RPG AND 5 APG CAREER NOT EVEN TOP 2000 IN HISTORY. WILT ONLY CANT SHOOT FREE THROWS BUT GIVES U 20 REBOUNDS MORE THAN JORDAN 10+ MORE BLOCKS AND ACTUALLY CAN STOP SHAQ SOMETING LONGLEY AND DENNIS DID FOR JORDAN.

[@frankenviews4069]

The one thing that Jordan had that set him apart from the others (aside from Kobe who consciously tried to copy it) was his insane love of challenges. Whereas other players would despair in the lack of All Star team mates, Jordan simply took it as a challenge for him to be a greater player to make up for the lack of talent. A horrible Bulls team drafted him and instead of wishing he was on a better team, he simply got busy turning himself into a one man team. He was initially opposed to Phil making him share the ball but Jordan never demanded for Phil to be fired or ask for himself to be traded.

[@keithjoseph128]

No, Kobe wasn't close

[@iraelliott8936]

Just another why Jordan is the GOAT

[@yaiqabhabalyasharahla4948]

💯💪🏽

[@zzzvain9710]

@@yaiqabhabalyasharahla4948 NAME 2ND HOF IN KNICKS OR U ADMIT JORDAN IS NOBODY

[@zzzvain9710]

@@yaiqabhabalyasharahla4948 NO DERANGED. FIRST LIE WAS THAT GARNETT WAS PRIME AND WILT HAD THAT MUCH PLAYERS. TELL PPL WHEN GARNETT WAS DRAFTED AND WHAT SEASON WAS 2009 OF HIM? TELL PPL WHERE WAS BAYLOR WHEN WILT BEAT PRIME JABBAR 1972 AND TOOK HIS RING?

[@Nysdaddy]

@zzz… Name A HOF’er on the Bulls or another HOF’er on the Pacers.

[@mogissendanner4648]

The 90s is when The rules were BALANCED. Offenses were tested by good defenses. We had players who were only known for their defense. Football was the same way. Then the 2000s came, and the rules started to favor the offense. I attribute this to sports gambling and the average fan’s addiction to stats. I’m not knocking it, I more-so enjoyed the competition and how difficult to score. That made the stats THAT much more important, because anybody couldn’t do it. Let’s take Allen Houston… an above average 2guard in the 90s. He would be a terror in this new EUROLEAGUE.

[@andrewcook1246]

By balanced do you mean flagrants, shorter 3 pt lines, camping out at the paint, no zones, etc

[@markula_4040]

Another thing of note is how they attack Jordan's competition but remember the 1992 Dream Team. The greatest collection of basketball players ever. THAT was Jordan's competition and that team doesn't include Isiah Thomas or Shaquille O'Neal.

[@holdthetruthhostage]

Preach

[@scottb3034]

Or Nique, Tim Hardaway and Mitch Richmond.

[@zzzvain9710]

U MEAN BROKEN SPINAL BIRD OR BUST LAETTNER AND NO DEFENSE MULLIN WHO NEVER PASS BALL CANT DUNK ETC

[@scottb3034]

@@zzzvain9710 laettner wasn't a bust homie

[@zzzvain9710]

@scottb3034 for sure deranged so why jordan didnt saw playoff with him in Wizards ?

[@jamoa3395]

It’s called determination and will power and MJ actually made his teammates better

[@zzzvain9710]

STACKHOUSE 30 PPG BEST SCORER IN NBA PRIOR TRADE. JORDAN MAKES HIM WORSE. WHY HIS DETERMINATION DIDNT SHOWN ON KWAME AND STACKHOUSE TO SEE PLAYOFF IN WEAKEST EAST EVER 2002 AND 03 ? ALSO LARRY HUGES WAS 1 OF BEST STEALER IN GAME LEBRON CARRY HIM IN FINALS JORDAN DETERMINATION SO GREAT HE MISS PLATYOFF WITH HUGHES STACKHOUSE CHAMPION TY LOU AND CHAMPION BRENDAN HAYWOOD.

[@musicotensai]

@@zzzvain9710lol Stackhouse averaged 30 on a bad team one year. On really bad efficiency. When he joined Jordan he averaged the same points he did his last year in Detroit.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@musicotensai WIZARDS ALSO WAS BAD TEAM JORDAN EFF WAS 37% FG AND 9% FROM 3 IN MULTIPLE GAMES. STACKHOUSE COULD AVERAGE 30 PPG BUT JORDAN MAKES EVERYONE WORSE

[@zzzvain9710]

@@musicotensai MORE XCUSE. TYPICAL FOR DERANGED JORDAN FANS

[@zzzvain9710]

@@musicotensai JORDAN AVERAGE 35 PPG WHILE SHOOTING 14% FROM 3 IN 1986 U JUST PROVED HOW DERANGED U R

[@Calidastas]

Go back and look at the 1984 Olympic Team. Jordan had real help, but all rookies. They still beat the NBA all stars 8 times in a row. Jordan wrecked them. This gives you an idea of what he would do with a solid roster.

[@ap6160]

Sad thing is MJ haters have no ability to think critically nor have the self awareness to be open to challenging their beliefs.

[@zzzvain9710]

NAME 2ND HOF IN KNICKS 1997 OR U PROVES JORDAN IS NOBODY. SAD THING I SHOW PPL THAT JORDAN FANS HAS NO KNOWLEDGE NOW U CANNOT SPEAK HERE TILL U NAME ME 2ND HOF IN NEW YORK BECAUSE BULLS HAD 5

[@louisvelez40]

@@zzzvain9710 that's a nice tactic but name those 5 HOFs the Bulls had?

[@zzzvain9710]

@@louisvelez40 if u cant use search google then i cant help u. Bulls 1997 had 5 hof even if dont count old Parish still Ewing played alone vs 4 hall of famers. Instead to spread lies better listen to elders smarter ppl.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@louisvelez40 lern to use google search

[@mikjord]

​@@zzzvain9710Without Jordan they wouldn't be hall of famers!

[@ethanledford6181]

All the MJ haters try and say Jordan would have never won without Pippen. They try and make Pippen sound like he's a top 10 player of all time or something. But in reality when you look at the numbers Pippen didn't do that much. Especially when you look at the playoffs like in 1988 in the opening round against the cavs in game 1 Pippen had 0 points and in game 2 Pippen had just 8 points and there's many more playoff games and series where Pippen struggled like that. And when you look at other people's help like LeBron you'll see that Chris Bosh put up better numbers than Pippen. And I don't want to sound like I'm trashing Pippen but MJ definitely did the most with the least amount of help.

[@darkgray1]

You sound crazy

[@ethanledford6181]

@darkgray1 so facts are crazy lol? Considering you're getting emotional like a woman you're probably a LeBron fan boy so I expect nothing less.

[@Jimmyd134]

Don’t forgot pip in the 98 finals. Look at his numbers. He scored like 8 points game 6. Lebron Stan’s are the worst

[@ethanledford6181]

@@Jimmyd134 exactly! The 88 playoff series against the Cavs is the one that always pops up in my head first but I knew there were many more where Pippen struggled. Thanks for pointing another out. And the thing is I actually like Pippen as a player but it absolutely kills me that LeBron fans hype him up and make him sound better than he really was.

[@davidmartinez52420]

The one season when Gervin and Jordan were teammates was the season Jordan only played in 18 games because of the broken foot, and most of those games were after he came back and was put on a severe minutes restriction. In the playoffs Gervin only played 11 minutes over 2 games scoring 0 points and getting 1 rebound and 1 assist. I like that you included him just to be technical because I've seen some LeBron fans bring him up unironically as if he was still the Iceman of old.

[@scottb3034]

Artis Gilmore is also an all-time great that played with Jordan. But like Gervin he was at the end of his career and it was also under 30 games together. He arguably could have been top 75 as well if they didn't add so much recency bias with players from the last 15 years. His inclusion still wouldn't have been enough to hurt MJ on this list.

[@davidmartinez52420]

@scottb3034 It's funny that you mention the recency bias in the top 75 list because a lot of modern fans were mad because they felt too many older players were included that shouldn't have been...lol. I've never seen a group of sports fans so disrespectful to the past history of a sport the way I see modern NBA fans be so disrespectful of the past. It's unbelievable.

[@scottb3034]

@@davidmartinez52420 I am aware of that, trust me. But there is no way they can make a case when the likes of Melo, Westbrook and Lillard are on the list when none of them accomplished anything in the postseason and at least one of them is a notorious stat padder. When you are already scraping the bottom of the barrel with those guys you don't have a leg to stand on. Heck I think Giannis was a little premature but then again Shaq was arguably just as premature in 1997 (in my book McAdoo or Nique deserved that selection in 97 over Shaq). And I 100% agree. I don't know if it's a lack of education on the game, denial that they play in an era that is arguably weaker than the ones they weren't born for or what.... It could also be that the people they idolize led the charge on being disrespectful to the past. It's egregious and definitely unbelievable. You don't see it in hockey, baseball or football.

[@davidmartinez52420]

@@scottb3034 I dunno if you're old enough to have watched Shaq back then, but he really was that dude from day one. You can maybe argue his inclusion in the top 50 only 3.5 years into his career was premature, but he definitely went on to justify it seeing as how he's in many people's top 10 of all time list. It seems there's this level of impatience that has fans wanted to crown dudes in certain all time rankings when they haven't played long enough and/or accomplished enough.

[@scottb3034]

@@davidmartinez52420 I grew up on the Bulls dynasty. He was NOT top 50 over Nique or McAdoo at that point in his career. He had made one Finals and got swept out of every playoff he'd been in at that point (and i think remained a trend for 2 more years, crazy enough). He also owed a lot to Penny at that point in his career. He would be a no-brainer if the top 50 was created in 2001 but not in 1997 when he hadn't even finished a season in LA, at least not over some of the guys omitted like Dominique who was arguably the 3rd best wing player to Jordan and Bird during that era and had 14 years under his belt.

[@chukwunonyeanyakoha8573]

Respect to Hakeem Olajuwon!!!!

[@zzzvain9710]

HE WON RING ALONE WHERE IS JORDAN 2ND ROUND WITHOUT PIPPEN?

[@mikjord]

​@@zzzvain9710From 1984 to 1987 the Bulls were one of the worst teams in the league in the most competitive division. In the 80's the Central Division was, by far, the toughest Division of all.

[@zzzvain9710]

@mikjord Bird turned 20 wins into 60 wins. Boston waant even playoff ans Bird same roster make em contender. Jordan is nobody. Moncrief not even 75 member and u say he had bad team. Cavs dont have 1 guy in 50 goat list 1997 thats jordan opponents teams without any 75 members voted 🤣

[@mikjord]

@zzzvain9710 The Celtics had won 13 NBA championships before Bird's arrival in 1979. The Celtics were in a slump but still had Red Auberbach who knew how to build a championship team. On the other end, the Bulls were historically a losing organization. Like Isiah did in Detroit, turning a losing organization into a championship organization, its a HUGE achievement, greater than winning a championship in a historically winning franchise like the Celtics and the Lakers.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@mikjord BIRD DIDNR ARRIVED 60'S THEY WON 20 GAMES IN 1978/79 AND BIRD ALONE WON 60. ANOTHER EXAMPLE U R DERANGED LIKE EVERY JORDAN FAN. ITS LIKE SAYING LAKERS WON 17 TITLES BUT KOBE LAST 5 YEARS NEVER SAW PLAYOFF AND LEBRON JAMES CAME TO A TEAM THAT ROBERT SACRE WAITS NOT JABBAR MAGIC WORTHY.

[@thomash8501]

GOAT, by definition, is THE greatest. Michael Jordan is THE greatest, and it is objectively demonstrable.

[@tudorm6838]

Rodman was a good role player, but his career stats are PPG 7.3, RBPG 13.1, AST 1.8, SPG 0.7, BLK 0.6.

[@MasterSpade]

100% FACTS!!!!!

[@zzzvain9710]

NO DERANGED. FIRST LIE WAS THAT GARNETT WAS PRIME AND WILT HAD THAT MUCH PLAYERS. TELL PPL WHEN GARNETT WAS DRAFTED AND WHAT SEASON WAS 2009 OF HIM? TELL PPL WHERE WAS BAYLOR WHEN WILT BEAT PRIME JABBAR 1972 AND TOOK HIS RING?

[@RobMac-ld2ll]

Jordans the goat and is not even close

[@zzzvain9710]

@@RobMac-ld2ll for sure deranged show me 25 rpg 12 bpg and scoring 100 points plus 72 records ?

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

@@RobMac-ld2ll LOLOLOLOL, I would've agreed 15 years ago. Not anymore.

[@hakeemolajuwon4352]

No it's not a fact, and some of the things said in this video are blatant lies. Olajuwon is the only player to win multiple times with ZERO all stars, ZERO all NBA teammates, ZERO all defensive teammates, and ZERO HOF coach

[@bobdavis3357]

And he's still the GOAT

[@WSNight-]

No

[@yajeromeo]

Hakeem and Jordan did so much without help, and Hakeem only won his championships in the years Jordan wasn't playing. Oddly enough, they never faced each other in the finals...

[@hakeemolajuwon4352]

Olajuwon owned Jordan and whooped on him regularly

[@yajeromeo]

@hakeemolajuwon4352 and? He never got to the finals in any year Jordan did so what does it matter if he beat him in the regular season? Yep, win the battle only to lose the war...

[@hakeemolajuwon4352]

@yajeromeo Jordan had a chance to face Olajuwon in 86' and in 95' but couldn't make it to the Finals .. and Olajuwon dominated far better teams than Jordan ever beat in his life like the 86' Showtime Lakers

[@yajeromeo]

@hakeemolajuwon4352 in 86, neither of them were on strong enough teams to get very far, so that point is moot, and in 95 Jordan was still technically a baseball player playing basketball. Hardly a proper comparison. The next season when Jordan actually prepared, that was his iconic 72-10 season, where was Hakeem? I don't remember him being injured and it was still the same team from the year before right? But they didn't make it to the finals that year.

[@hakeemolajuwon4352]

@yajeromeo What?! Olajuwon made the Finals in 86' while leading the entire playoffs in points, rebounds, and blocks on 51% FG. That's a lie, Jordan had already been getting ready to return since the summer of 94' after Pippen's charity game. Buddy Olajuwon didn't take an 18 month vacation from putting miles on his knees like Jordan did. Then Jordan returned to a super team with Harper, Pippen, Rodman, 7'2 Longley, Kerr and Kukoc coming off the bench... Yeah if Olajuwon had that team instead of Kenny Smith, Horry, and Chucky Brown he would've definitely made the Finals that year. But would Jordan make any Finals if he ever had to play alongside Drexler, Horry, Kenny Smith, Chucky Brown and Mark Bryant as their big men? Would Jordan even make the playoffs with that team?

[@blurplebear8573]

I think Olajuwon has an argument also. At least for most of his Houston career.

[@ronaldsase4236]

Well said!

[@honorfirst7506]

MJ got the worst help to start it out. ! Franchise of no winning. !Team missed 6/7 playoffs. ! Pippen a walk-on to D2. ! Pippen can’t make all rookie. ! Rookie GM Krause. ! Rookie Owner Reinsdorf. ! Rookie Coach Jackson. ! Age 35-37 Rodman. Yes MJ helped turn Pippen up, from Not making all rookie team, to an all time great defender, and a good offensive player, just not an all time great offensive player.

[@SonnyK248]

Dude Pippen was injured his rookie year. He kept complaining all year to Doug Collins about his back and Doug kept telling him to get a massage. Then in the off season he got a second opinion and found out he'd been playing with a herniated disc all season. So he had surgery and was far better in year two and not because of Jordan, but because his back was healed 🤦‍♂ Also this narrative that Rodman was a bum coming to the Bulls needs to stop also. When he arrived he'd just made third team all NBA and first team all defense as the second best player on a 60 win team. The Bulls had just been spanked in the playoffs because they lost Horace Grant in free agency and had no interior defensive presence at the 4 or an elite rebounder anymore. So they got the best of both in Rodman and started winning again. Kemp and Payton both say Rodman should have won FMVP in 96 because when Payton guarded Jordan he was not good. He shot 30% in game 4 and 20% in the elimination game and was turning the ball over like crazy. And against Utah in the next two finals Rodman was the Malone stopper. They used to call him Malone Kryptonite. They never win another ring if they don't get Dennis. So Seriously dude stop getting your info from MJ glazing sites. He had an absolutely loaded team for his era. He never once went into a finals series without the best team.

[@honorfirst7506]

@ you casual. So why was he a walk-on, to division 2 NAIA college, & not a scholarship player, to ncaa division 1 college then?

[@honorfirst7506]

@ why did the Doberman Defense coach, who joined Bulls in 1988-89, say this then. "Kiddingly, we used to call Scottie the matador," assistant coach John Bach said of Pippen's wave-at-him defense. "If I had a cape I would’ve given it to him.” Casual. You’re a whole hater.

[@honorfirst7506]

@ why did Pippen say this? “Most of my instincts come from Guarding Michael all of the time in practice? Hater. Casual.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@SonnyK248 mj never had the best roster in the league. Rodman was a role player who was incapable of being a franchise player. No one wanted Rodman 😂😂Pippen developed under Jordan's leadership. Without Jordan in Chicago we wouldn't know about Pippen 😂😂

[@erablaktv]

Horace grant made the all defensive team for the bulls as well helping the bulls and Jordan win in the first three peat.

[@dragonray9450]

FACTS!!!

[@Ex-ws2vb]

10:40 Grant made all-defensive team in 93

[@zzzvain9710]

ALSO WAS 1 OF BEST RIM PROTECTOR DEFENDER AND MID RANGE SHOOTER PF. ONLY DIFFERENCE IS HE WAS BETTER SCORER RODMAN BETTER REBOUND DEFENDER PASSER. ALSO HORACE MADE ORLANDO CONTENDERS JORDAN COULDNT BEAT HIM WITH FINAL MVP KUKOC JUST PROVES GRANT WAS BETTER THAN MVP KUKOC DESPITE TONI IS HOF.

[@michaelking3148]

@@zzzvain9710 Whatever. Grant was only an all-star for 1 season, 1994. Jordan had also only been back for a short while in late season '95. And Orlando had Shaq, Penny, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott - but they were nothing til Horace got there. And when exactly did Kukoc win finals MVP? You need to learn something.

[@housepumpinpc3983]

​@@michaelking3148 don't feed the trolls. This dude is delusional.

[@justyouraverageyoutuber5218]

The biggest Mj haters are also the biggest Pippen glazers

[@ImTitan16]

LeBron fans act like 2 of LeBrons rings came with players who had rings before him

[@michaelnoel9998]

One thing I would like to add though is that Jordan did play with 3 other HOFers (Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc). Having said that, there is not a question in my mind that anybody should be called the goat besides Michael Jordan. And I agree with your premise

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Kukoc in the hof for Euro career. No one wanted Rodman and is a HOFer for being a support player like Michael copper, Draymond, Ben Wallace etc. All HOFer aren't created equal

[@mastermace7770]

MJ was great

[@cochise4390]

Yeah people talk about prime… but Lebron has played with different DPOY… Tyson, Dwight, Marc…. Then add Melo, Deron Williams was an Olympian… Drose… Bosh… Lebron stayed getting players

[@jdm2339]

I wanted to thumbs up this video so many times. THERE IS NO CASE MJ IS THE UNDISPUTED GOAT

[@MJIZZEL]

Did you forget Carmelo and Dwight Howard played with lebron too? Edit: keep forgetting Dwight wasn't top 75. How? Idk. Yet Lillard is.

[@sirfrescobar4830]

Shit is politics, same reason kyrie Irving wasn’t selected either

[@vernonleewarren280]

Great video 👍

[@genxfusion]

Jordan had help. He had 3 Hall of Famers (Pippin, Rodman and Kokoc) in his lineup during the 2nd 3-peat. That does not diminish how great Jordan is. But he had help. And there's nothing wrong with that.

[@Sf75178]

Everyone had help. If you actually watch the video you would see he had least help

[@genxfusion]

@Sf75178 why is that so important? What is the narrative?

[@Sf75178]

@genxfusion good questions. You should ask those that use that narrative

[@tysonbasye5171]

Right, but the whole point of this video is that of top-10 or top-20 players of all time, MJ had the least* help. He didn’t really have all that much help for his first 3-peat… LeBron had more statistical help from Mo Williams and Big Z than what Jordan 3-peated with.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂Jordan only All-Star teammate is Pippen (92-97), who developed under Jordan's leadership. Kukoc is in the HOF for his Euro career. No one wanted Rodman and was an offensive liability. No one is claiming Jordan didn't have help the perception of his help is overrated because of how great Jordan was.

[@meciasrivera4769]

While all of us debate of this that & the 3rd MJ the GOAT is just sitting back in his rocking chair laughing at all off us thinking like “I live rent free” in All those people!!!

[@eddieG667]

Less stars around him but also less stacked teams in the 90s. But more important is he had a battle hardened team that was forged in the 80s. All those losses not only toughened MJ, but the entire team and coaching staff. The next battle hardened team should’ve been the Magic, but Shaq left after just one loss. MJ stayed after 3. That’s the biggest difference

[@Jeremy-y5f]

As if we needed more reasons to crown MJ as the 🐐 😏

[@Malaki-puwet]

The difference is MJ played through his prime with a great pippen and goat rebounder rodman. Olaujuwon played w Clyde and barkley for a season at the end of his career. He did all his great work almost alone. Sampson was ok but nothing like having a Stockton,kyrie,kobe,pippen by your side. Dream is #1

[@brendabackus5152]

Absolutely 💯

[@johnostrowski3402]

There was no prime Bird and even Magic. No competition for someone as good as Jordan.

[@andrewcook1246]

Mike didn't have the best help all time. That goes to Magic, Steph and Russell. But he did have a looot of help and BY FAR the best help in the 90s... Having 2 top 50 players, fielding a team with 4 hof, the best coach, best gm and best marksman is the kind of help anyone would kill for. Especially in an era without any other superteams and 6 expansion teams. So please stop the cap. EVERY TOP 10 PLAYER HAD AMAZING AMOUNTS OF HELP.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂😂Jordan never had the best roster in the league 😂😂Pippen was Jordan only All-Star teammate who developed under Jordan's leadership (92-97) Swap Jordan and Malone the Jazz become the dynasty

[@darnelljones9849]

The NBA now is pretty trash. It's getting very hard to watch.

[@3TTriple]

Scottie Pippen was counted as top 2 among the Small Forwards along Larry Bird. Dennis Rodman took rebounds like no other. Horace Grant and Kukoc where really strong. Point Guard and Center where more on the OK side. Bill Carthwright and B.J. Andersond where reliable players. The Lakers team with Shaq, Kobe, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, Horace Grant(again) and Hobert Horry was probably the strongest team to date. I don't think the Jordan Bulls would beat them.

[@mikeprolas2027]

When i think of the least help i think of Hakeem honestly and the thing is when he got help he was out of his prime and his only all nba player got a career ending injury i think his third year not sure but it was really early on also when he got clyde he wasn't clyde the glyde Drexel he was still effective but not the Clyde we knew so imma say he had the least help and jordan had tge second spot

[@CarlosHeredia-s2v]

Shoutout to Hakeem the Dream Olajuwon! Only player to win a title without an all star or Hall of Fame teammate (94) and the only player to win back-to-back titles without an all star teammate (94 & 95)

[@holdthetruthhostage]

MJ NO QUESTIONS just GOAT, LeBron played with the most Hall Of Famers Ever

[@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310]

I'm definitely archiving this video

[@chitownmo]

When you look at the Bulls roster during their championship runs they were not great, especially during the 1st 3-peat. Rodman put them over the hump during the 2nd 3-peat, but it has to be agreed that he be allowed to be on the team by Jordan, Pippen and Jackson and Jackson vouched for Rodman after his negative experience with the Spurs and he was not valued as highly as he was prior.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Rodman didn't put the Bulls over. Grant as a Bull was better than Rodman. The 1st 3peat was just as good as the 2nd 3peat team if not better. Rodman is vastly overrated.

[@chitownmo]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 Yeah, he did. Grant was mediocre. Not an elite PF.

[@chitownmo]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876No where is Grant given credit for any of the titles. He had his pity all star birth in 94 just like BJ Armstrong and neither was never heard from again. Rodman should have won the Finals MVP in 96 for his play. His rebounding and defense was a considerable factor. He wasn't as great as he was in Detroit, but he was still great.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@@chitownmo😂😂Grant is more complete than Rodman. 95-96 Rodman 5ppg/15rbs. 95-96 Grant 13ppg/9rbs. Grant helped Orlando and LA 😂😂maybe Rodman is more "mediocre" than great. Remember Grant actually had a midrange and could make ft's 😂😂

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​​@@chitownmoRodman in 96 had a great series for his standards but in no way was he the MVP of that series 😂😂only thing Rodman did better than Jordan was rebound 😂😂 BJ and Grant are actually underrated Rodman and Kerr are overrated

[@Bakri-e1g]

Well justified. Case Closed.

[@fp8901]

Olajuwon had the least help by far (or is it by less?). In Hakeem's best years - '84 to '99 (not incl. his last 3 seasons) - his teammates made TWO ALL NBA teams, in 15 years (and 7 All-Star games). Michael Jordan had Scottie Pippen make 7 All-Star game appearances and SIX ALL NBA teams from '89 to '98. I didn't include Pippen's stellar '93-94 season. Pippen also finished in the top 10 in voting for Defensive Player of the Year 8 times.

[@deonlepharaoh]

He definitely deserves more credit, unfortunately, the narrative, even back then, was always that he only won due to jordan being retired for his 1st title and still rusty (also not having a post presence since grant left to Orlando) for the second title. Even though Mike always said he ain't sure they could've beat Hakeem, it was still always the narrative.

[@malafakka8530]

Good points, I guess, but I am not sure that it is as clear as you think. Those Bulls teams were strong, regardless of how many top 75 and all stars were on that team. You don't get a 72 win season with the least help. All Stars are also very dependent on popularity. All of that is not to say that others in the discussion didn't have more help but I think that more context is needed. Also... Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Steve Nash were in their prime when they played with Kobe? What?

[@deonlepharaoh]

Lebron wasnt on the 06 heat so wade didnt win finals mvp over him...but doesn't change your overall point...great video

[@JasonMcCarren]

Horace Grant made all-defensive as well.

[@melvynsngltn27]

I have a question how can Shaq join other stars when he was the star? Orlando was a joke before he was drafted, LA was a playoff team that lacked a real star. Miami nobody cared about that team until he was traded there. Seems more like teams benefited from getting a real star while grooming his teammates

[@hakeemolajuwon4352]

Jordan did not have less help than Hakeem Olajuwon and it's not even close!!

[@AndreLeitedaSilvaGaldino]

Jokic had less help than any other all time great player who won a Champ!

[@x-man9473]

MJ won multiple championships-not just one. I assume that's the standard we're going by.

[@ap6160]

Shaq has 4 rings to show for, while Wilt only has 2. I really believe Wilt is one of the most overrated players ever

[@zzzvain9710]

YEAH AND HAVLICEK 8-0 IN ROW MAJES HIM 500X BETTER THAN JORDAN I REALLY THINK BRADLEY BEAL IS BETTER PLAYER THAN JORDAN CAUSE EVEN HE AVERAGE 35 PPG BUT DIDNT HAD PIPPEN AND RODMAN. ALSO BIRD SWEPT JORDAN 6-0 WILT NEVER GOT SWEPT BY 9 HALL OF FAMERS INSTEAD LOSE IN GAME 7 FOUR TIMES BY 1 POINT. JORDAN COULDNT WIN 1 GAME IN CAREER

[@jbrandonf]

Opinions like your are why ring culture sucks.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@jbrandonf RINGS ARE TEAM ACHIEVEMENT GOAT IS IONDIVIDUAL STATS AND RECORDS. WILT HOLD 80% STATS LEAGUE LEADERS AND MORE THAN 72 RECORDS WHAT IS MORE THAN BRON JABBAR JORDAN MAGIC KOBE SHAQ ALL COMBINED TOGETHER. RUSSELL IS GOAT WITH RINGS WILT IN STATS AND RECORDS JORDAN KOBE IN ATTRACTION AND BIRD MAGIC JABBAR BRON IN TEAM GA,ME

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@@zzzvain9710😂😂Havlicek wasn't the driving force of his team success 🤣 😆 wilt underachieved with multiple superteams choked as the favorite in 69 too the old Celtics. Wilt helped the Celtics record 😂😂😂

[@ap6160]

@@jbrandonf because NBA players play ball not to win rings, right?!

[@Cannon4545]

This isn't really an honest video. Jordan's my favorite player of all time and the greatest of all time, and I love him. But the Bulls were _phenomenal_ and a championship-caliber team even without Jordan.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂3peat Bulls that added 5 new players weren't championship caliber. The Bulls developed under Jordan's leadership. 3peat Bulls lost in the 2nd round as expected

[@Cannon4545]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 They were a 55-win team. And they'd just added Toni Kukoc and Steve Kerr. Kukoc was a borderline superstar in his own right, and Steve Kerr doesn't need an introduction as a 3-point assassin. Their biggest issue was the fact that they replaced Jordan with a guy who averaged 6 ppg over his two seasons with the Bulls.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@Cannon4545 😂😂3peat Bulls added 5 new players that combined for over 40ppg 😂😂94-Bulls aren't unique😂😂 Lakers made the Playoffs without Magic, Celtics without Bird, Blazers without Drexler, Orlando without Shaq, Suns without Barkley, Knicks without Ewing etc Kukoc wasn't even an All-Star 😂😂Kerr was a spot up shooter/bench player

[@JDNumber7]

Can’t close one eye to the competition tho…🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mrxexes]

Well, the Bulls almost and should have made it to the finals without Jordan, and when he came back he brought back Rodman and Harper for additional help, which makes you wonder if that Pippen/Jordanless Bulls team had won it all if they had Rodman and Harper. But you guys stay in your echo chamber cherry-picking moments to fit y'all bias narrative.

[@Sf75178]

Well done for changing history Harper joined the Bulls atctge start of 95 season so Jordan has nothing to do with him being there as you weirdly claim Jordan also has nothing to do with Rodman joining the team

[@mrxexes]

@Sf75178 The point is that team without Jordan and Rodman should have made it to the finals, now ask yourself what happened to Lebron's teams after he left. The reason why I bring this up is to establish some sort of metrics that we can falsify the claim on who has more help, and to me what the teams did without the stars triumph over peoples faceless assertions.

[@Sf75178]

@@mrxexes the point is you tried to change history! The 94 team added players that would be important to the 2nd 3peat but you choose to ignore that. You accusing others of cherry picking and then turn around and do it yourself

[@mrxexes]

@@Sf75178 No I made an honest mistake, but the mistake doesn't change the fact that the Bulls kept on winning without Jordan while all of LeBron=less teams fell into the lottery right after his departure.

[@Sf75178]

@mrxexes mistake or a refusal to do research. AGAIN you choose to ignore that the Bulls added players that would be important to 2nd 3peat. When Jordan and LeBron left teams THAT WAS NO THE ONLY THING THAT HAPPENED. You choosing to ignore that says a lot

[@antoinepatterson7902]

They won 55 games when he retired sir, that's a good team for that period.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂3peat Bulls that added 5 new players after Jordan retired aren't unique 😂😂Lakers made the Playoffs without Magic, Celtics without Bird, Blazers without Drexler, Orlando without Shaq, Suns without Barkley, Knicks without Ewing etc. Jordan developed his "help" and never lost or choked. Far different then the revisionist history certain people in the media try to run with😢

[@antoinepatterson7902]

@ They still working on 55 games sir and Pippen was in the running for MVP during the season. Stop it sir

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@antoinepatterson7902 😂😂they weren't unique. They lost in the 2nd round as expected 😂😂

[@antoinepatterson7902]

@ Point is if the team was below average they would not have made it out the first round. They were an above average team without Jordan sir.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​​@@antoinepatterson7902The team developed under Jordan's leadership. They weren't elite when they arrived. 3peat Bulls added 5 new players. It's not the same team Jordan left. 3peat Bulls beat a Cavs team missing their best players. They lost in the 2nd round as expected. 3peat Bulls aren't unique is the point. Jordan was the difference

[@gb1style]

And you can easily deepen the accuracy of your video

[@hotboyyyy89]

Step played with demarcus cousins Bron played with melo smh show respect

[@williamcahill2462]

Maybe you should try another angle. Like Mike failed to use his help as much as other superstars. He was the greatest, but this video is nonsense.

[@edl6026]

If you believe that, since Jordan had the least help and basketball is a team game, bulls 95-96 would lose to the shaq Kobe lakers, golden state, all LeBron’s multiple hand picked teams because they all had better players than Jordan’s teams. Bad logic bud, 95-96 bulls would beat most of these teams because they did have great players. When Jordan retired, every critic said the bulls would not even be a .500 team. Pippen made that team and made those players better. Bj Armstrong and grant were never all star players and both went to the all star game. Sorry the logic doesn’t make sense. Jordan had good help and Pippen was pivotal in that team. Many put Pip in they’re starting 5 like Jason Kidd, Malone, Jordan, etc.

[@FillyouupSplash]

MJ NOR KOBE WILL NEVER SUIT UP FOR ANOTHER NBA game again 😂😂😂.....its 2024 fast forward to the future 😢😢

[@broadmoon]

Fact is you are an extreme fan boy if you are being honest 😂

[@DARTH-KTULU]

Pippen was the best small forward in the league during the Bulls title runs. Rodman and Pippen were two of the best defenders ever, and Rodman was the greatest rebounder ever that wasn’t a center. Phil Jackson is the greatest coach of all time, and every Bulls team at the time had multiple absolute snipers for point guards. Paxson, Hodges, Armstrong, Kerr. But no, Jordan had no help. STFU. It’s not about how many top players you have, it’s about how many years you have those players at their peak.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂 no one said Jordan didn't help. The perception of Jordan help is overrated because of Jordan's greatness. Pippen was only the best sf in the league in 94 & 95. No one wanted Rodman and was an offensive liability and was only on the 2nd 3peat. Who was Phil before Jordan? 😂😂Jordan never had the best roster in the league

[@DARTH-KTULU]

@ the only thing the Bulls lacked was a center. I didn’t even mention Kukoc. The Bulls that first year without Jordan were a 55 win team (only 2 less wins than with Jordan the year prior) and lost in 7 to the Knicks. Don’t tell me they weren’t overpowered, they were contenders without MJ.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@DARTH-KTULU 3peat Bulls added 5 new players after Jordan retired. They lost in the 2nd round as expected after they beat a Cavs team missing their best players in the 1st round. 94-Bulls aren't unique. Lakers made the Playoffs without Magic, Celtics without Bird, Blazers without Drexler, Orlando without Shaq, Suns without Barkley, Knicks without Ewing etc. Jordan was the difference. Jordan never had the best roster in the league

[@chitownmo]

Only Olajuwon won a title with less than Jordan(1994). Drexler arrived the next season but he was past his prime and the Rockets played didn't want him. Only Hakeem.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

No he didn't 😂😂😂the Rockets had Thorpe, Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell, Sam Cassell, Robert Horry etc. Hakeem also lost with Drexler, Barkley and Pippen

[@chitownmo]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 Thorpe was solid but not elite. Smith, Maxwell, Call assell and Horry were all role players at that time. Cassell became better after he left the Rockets and got more shine. Horry looked like he could have been more but something happened to him that hindered his potential. Even Kenny said he was a role player.

[@chitownmo]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 All which were past their primes when they played together. And I stated in 94. The Rockets were not a great team talent wise.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​​@@chitownmoThorpe was avg 20-10 before the Rockets traded for him. Elite defender and could run the break with and without the ball. Mad Max, Kenny and Cassell all could score/shoot/create for themselves and others. Young Horry was getting Pippen comparisons this wasn't 3peat and Spurs Horry. And they were an elite 3point team. Not stars but elite role players that were clutch and seasoned. Far better than the narrative. See the 91Rockets record without Hakeem. They had to sacrifice to fit Hakeems game which worked out to back-2-back rings. 94-Rockets are on par with the 91-Bulls maybe a little bit deeper

[@chitownmo]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 That was in lottery team in the Sac in the late 80s. He averaged 14 and 10 with Rockets in 94. His numbers were already in decline at that point for several seasons which is one of the reasons along with Olajuwon's favor towards Drexler which is why he was traded after the 1st title. Thorpe was solid PF for his career but not among the elite.

[@SmilingDolphins-ye4zm]

Fanboy denial

[@lockysock1901]

So much facts and the Lecheerleaders still fight it & cry 🤣

[@WSNight-]

This is stupid comparing help . He damn sure didn't do it alone.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

No one does. Imagine Jordan with a Kareem or all-time great two-way big men in McHale & Parish or hand picking his teammates, etc. Jordan help wasn't as great as people think compared to others.

[@WSNight-]

@sideshowbobsaget8876 you just compared.LOL

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@@WSNight-so? We can't acknowledge the difference level of help players get?

[@WSNight-]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 it doesn't matter, just like rule changes or what years a player played because the players can't choose when they are born or make the rules, you think Jordan had it tough what about Wilt and Bill Russell they was getting beat up too plus no threes, Zeke got beat up too , even LeBron gets beat up. I grew up watching Jordan and Bird all them I never said that he has less help than anyone, funny thing is people comparing help but got upset when LeBron got help, Soo as a player why wouldn't you get better teammates? You play to win the game I bet if Jordan never had Pip and later Rodman he definitely would have either left or seek help in fact Jordan stopped them from trading Pip one year. I'm all for the players because I remember players got traded during an actual game and deep in play offs Soo why should a player be loyal to a team that can do that when you can right your own path.Ray Allen did it before LeBron and KD.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@WSNight- Jordan developed his help. Pippen wasn't developed when he joined the Bulls. No one wanted Rodman, who was an offensive liability. LeBron had help his whole career. Teaming up with proven HOFers/franchise players like LeBron has is considered weak . The Celtics were older and didn't try to get traded

[@driverjay8613]

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS NONE BBALL HEADED, metrix machine, narrative driven, control freak ridiculousness is this 😩

[@Supreme36074]

He had more help his era .. 😂 it’s laughable. They had the best roster in the 90’s. You can’t compare eras because the guys that you say had more help faced more talent on the other teams .. more scorers etc 😂😂😂

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂Jordan never had the best roster in the league 😂😂LeBron didn't face more talented teams😂😂😂 he played in the leastern conference

[@warreno.bryant4406]

Yes these are facts lestans pippen is not what u pundits what u think in the rop 20 30 like toni kukoc so on forth the all time greats jordan best roster 96 had the least top tier talent

[@zzzvain9710]

PIPPEN WON 55 GAMES WITHOUT JORDAN MJ NEVER WON 42 WITHOUT HIM. WHEN BRON LEFT CAVS 2X TELL US DID THEY WON 55 GAMES OR 20 AND LOTTERY PICK ?

[@warreno.bryant4406]

@zzzvain9710 zzzvain correct u know why they won 55 because they rebuild the roster even better then the previous championship precusor to the 72 to 10 ron harper steve kerr luc l toni six man hall of famer kukoc the magic of croatia which jerry krause was scouting for yrs still had there core group of b.j a alk star horace best yr grant all star scottie had the best squad in the east like his future counterpart le balco cavs 2008 2009 2010 mami 2010 2013 to second go round back home kyrie love l.a 4 5 hall of famer 2 3 top 75. Please do not go there

[@zzzvain9710]

@@warreno.bryant4406 RON HARPER PLAYED IN CLIPPERS 1994 ARE U DERANGED HE WAS TRADED UPON JORDAN RETURN FOR 1995 SEASON.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@warreno.bryant4406OBVIOUSLY U DONT KNOW NBA RON HARPER WAS IN CLIPPER WHEN PIPPEN WAS MVP VOTES. KUKOC WAS ROOKIE AND LONGLEY WAS TRADED IN 2ND PART OF THE SEASON 93/94. SO U JUST MAKING UP LIES LIKE EVERY JORDAN FAN. AND ITS NOT AN UPGRADE IF CARTWRIGHT WAS RETIRED. ITS A SWAP. LONGLEY IS NOT ALLSTAR HE JUST REPLACED CARTWRIGHT SAME RATING.

[@warreno.bryant4406]

@zzzvain9710 they had a much better roster wennington corey blount pete myers defenders and there core group if they had the goat easy 69 70 wins the won 55 games and the chip with the weakest roster

[@callawayproducts]

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[@HarmanHundal01]

MJ played with relatively poor players. But his opposition played with even poorer players. What support did Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, and Reggie Miller have in the 90s. Look that up and you’d find the secret to MJs success in the 90s.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂they all had better rosters than Jordan. Jordan never had the best roster in the league 😂😂 Jordan was being called the BOAT by the late 80s after only 4 full seasons in the 80s on a provety franchise with his best teammate as a young Charles Oakley. Jordan had the Bulls in the ECF in 89 taking the Champs to six games with no All-Star caliber teammate.

[@HarmanHundal01]

@ Bullshit. Lookup the rosters. Jordan during his second threepeat had 4 HoFs in the team. The best team he faced in the conference final or NBA final had 2 HoFs at most and sometimes even 1 or 0.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​​@@HarmanHundal01😂😂Jordan had 1 All-Star/franchise teammate who developed under his leadership (92-97). The rest were elite to good role players Jordan never had the best roster in the league 😂😂

[@HarmanHundal01]

@ Again. You are talking only about Jordan’s teammates. Talk about the teammates other superstars of the 90s had. You’d find that while Jordan didn’t have great teammates, his rivals had even worse ones.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@HarmanHundal01 😂😂false😂😂Shaq swept 5 times in the 90s had Penny, N.Anderson, D.Scott, H.Grant, Van-Exel, E.Jones, Horry, Kobe, Rice etc. The 80s - 90s had ballance and stacked teams from top to bottom. Jordan was the difference. If Jordan is drafted to Philly in the 80s he would've put that Era on lock too. Jordan was the difference

[@CrushWildman]

😂😂😂😂😂😂propaganda ass video

[@frandonfrank10]

Bull shit

[@javierma123456789]

Wowwww

[@Ryukikon]

There is merit in this vid but it lacks context😊

[@SmilingDolphins-ye4zm]

Mike Jordan had the most help The greatest small forward ever Scottie Pippen and the best all around player ever he had the greatest rebounder ever Dennis rodman fanboy

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂Pippen isn't the greatest sf or all around player. Pippen developed under Jordan leadership 😂😂no one wanted Rodman who was only on the 2nd 3peat and was an offensive liability. Rodman was never top 5 at his position

[@MattiQuelous]

Try using Google next time cause Pip def ain’t the greatest SF ever 🤣🤣🤣. That’s arguably LeFlop followed by guys like Bird, KD, DR J... Pip wasn’t crap when he arrived, cost the team what should have been their first finals in 90, in the 95 playoffs vs Orl, there were two games Pip had 10- points!! And that’s after an out of condition MJ returns with 17 games left and gets them in the playoffs and still manages to put up some amazing numbers! Then there was the delayed back surgery to punish management for the deal he took even tho they advised him not to. And Rodman was (respectfully) a HUGE liability for the team, out of his prime and only there for the 2nd 3-peat. he spent half his time getting a huge distraction, missing games, even in the playoffs, marrying himself for attention, partying it up in Vegas, wrestling on WWE, where he could’ve gotten severely injured, got thrown out of games for his antics…

[@iconpoet]

These lists are stupid. Why would anyone want to go to a team with bad players? Yall need hobbies

[@bobdavis3357]

Jordan couldn't beat the Celts for 7 years

[@Joe-nh8eq]

Bulls fans be like: “the 90s Bulls were the greatest team of all time. They would lock down the Warriors dynasty. Even without Jordan Bulls would win 4-0” Then in their next breathe talk about how Jordan had the least amount of help of any top 10 players 😅😅😅😂😂😂

[@snakebitten6967]

Funny how you chose to leave out the word “allstar” before help in your poor attempt to make a point. Typical. Lebron has had the most allstar help comparatively, in the easiest era ever, with the most league help ever and still, repeatedly finds ways to lose. Then he and is drone fans and shill media constantly cry that Lebron needs more help. MJ on the other handful, just went out with cards he was dealt with and whipped his team into championship mentality first and inspired and demanded they put in their best game night in and night out. MJ’s team overachieved due to his leadership and immense skill. We can never say that about Lebron as he is the exact opposite. He only wins with manipulated advantages over the league. The fact that yall love a cheater and media created star so much says a lot about your value system.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@snakebitten6967 ALLSTAR IS MARKETING NOT A RATING. BY YOUR OPINION NIKOLA JOKIC IS GOAT BECAUSE JAMAL MURRAY NEVER WENT TO ALLSTAR GAME BUT HE WON RING AND 3 MVPS. WHILE JORDAN HAS NO RINGS OR MVPS WITHOUT 50 GREATEST MEMBER PIPPEN. U JUST PROVED JOKIC IS 500X BETTER THAN JORDAN. ALSO ALLSTAR GAME IS FAN VOTE NOT REAL PICTURE. 2002 ROOKIE YAO MING WAS STARTER DESPITE SHAQ WON 3 FINALS MVPS RINGS IN A ROW BY YOUR LOGIC SHAQ IS LOW RATING AND ROOKIE MING IS BETTER THAN 3X CHAMPION.

[@snakebitten6967]

@ once again moving the goal post. So allstar is all of a sudden marketing once it exposes Lebron for under achieving with the most allstar help. Got it. Anything that exposes Lebron gets redefined lol at this LeEra and its drones. Right up there with: Lebron not playing consistent, meaningful defense for more than half his career is a sign of high IQ. Reality: patently false. That is a sign of laziness, poor sportsmanship and utter lack of respect for the game, its fans and the standards the true greats set. Lebron passing because he scared to shoot in clutch and fail, is him “making the right play.” Reality: a Lemedia created excuse to cover up his many choke jobs and failures. Lebron still jumping out the gym at age 40 is just genetics and hard work lol. Reality: dudes been on PEDS prolly from before NBA, allegedly lol. “Lebron makes his teammates better. “ Reality: he makes them worse. Lebron needs help even with loaded lineups. Reality: true because he needs to have high level players 2-5 to cover up the LeSystems many flaws. Lebron is the goat despite being a poor shooter, horrible ball handler, flopping, quitting and melting down often, always needing top allstars to play with and still losses more than wins, walks, travels, discontinues, dislodges, carries and offensive fouls almost every play in his 22 year career. Reality: no one with all those proven deficiencies has ever been considered the greatest in any legitimate sport. See I changed the goal post too but with factual, historically accurate, video proven info.

[@MattiQuelous]

@@snakebitten6967🎤💧

[@iconictrackclubiconictrain6401]

Stop spreading lies Bill Cartwright allstar Dennis Rodman Allstar Scottie top 50 Allstar Kukoc European Allstar Craig Hodges Allstar Steve Kerr Allstar BJ Armstrong lead the nba in 3 pointer Horace grant NBA Allstar

[@SonnyK248]

The Bulls were loaded. Choose any finals team Jordan faced and remove their best player and also remove MJ and The Bulls still win. Did MJ have more help than Lebron? No but he also never faced a great team in the finals. Jordan never had to punch up in the finals one time whereas Lebron did it many many times. Help is all relative to your competition and in that regard, MJ had the most help. People literally say the 96 Bulls could beat the 2017 Warriors. Some say they would sweep them. And that team isn't loaded considering who they actually came up against in their era?

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

You're insane. The bulls without Jordan don't beat the Lakers, the Supersonic or the Utah Jazz. LeBaby Oil James should never have lost to the mavericks in 2011 and cooked and outplayed by pip squeaks like Jason Terry and JJ Barea in NBA finals. In 2014 LeBaby Oil James once again should not have lost to the Spurs considering they beat the Spurs the year before but then got his back blown out by how bad the Spurs clapped the Heat in record fashion. In 2015 the Cavs were up 2-1 on a young warriors team that didn't have Kevin Durant yet and still lost. In the bubble he won the most overlooked and under valued championship in NBA history and Anthony Davis was the clear cut most valuable player in the bubble getting robbed of finals MVP. LeBron easily should have 2-3 more championships during his career. LeBaby Oil James has played with Prime D Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis and hall of famers Rajon Rondo, Dwight Howard and Ray Allen not to mention players like Shane Battier, Mo Williams, Carlos Boozer, Ilguaskas, Mike Williams, Carmelo Anthony, Westbrook. The man has had plenty of hall of fame teammates and still has only 4 championships in 21 seasons.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@Christo_Trismegistus BULLS WITHOUT JORDAN WON 55 GAMES. JORDAN NEVER WON 42 GAMES WITHOUT PIPPEN DEFENSE AND PLAYMAKING. NOW U CANNOT SPEAK HERE ANYMORE. ALSO KNICKS 1997 HAD 1 HOF EWING BULLS HAD 5

[@yustiansahimbar7889]

​@@zzzvain9710win 55 games.. But coming to the playoff is different situation... MJ at playoff is Beast

[@zzzvain9710]

@@yustiansahimbar7889 YEAH JORDAN IN PLAYOFF 1-9

[@zzzvain9710]

@@yustiansahimbar7889 PIPPEN WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES TOO AND REFS RIGGED FOUL VS KNICKS SO SCOTTIE LOSE BECAUSE DAVID STERN DIDNT WANT HIM TO BE IN FINALS WITHOUT HIS DAUGHTER MJ, THAT WILL RUIN SELL OF SHOES. ARE U 5 AGE? YES U R

[@FavreianVengeance]

Every time I smack fan boys in the face with MF GOAT Larry Bird beating Jordan 14X in a row, including two playoff sweeps, fanboys cry that Jordan didn't have enough help. LOL at them trying to have it both ways via revisionist history. Scottie Pippen's championship teams were stacked.

[@stealths15]

Everytime Jordan got swept or lose the playoffs, he is still the alpha of the team. The top scorer. He lost many times but didn´t shrink.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@stealths15 LEBRON JAMES 36 PPG IGUODALA WON FINAL MVP FOR KEEPING BRON UNDER 42 PPG IN FINALS. FUN FACT ALFA IS NOT THE GUY WHO SCORES MOST PPG BECAUSE 1996 ALPHA WAS DENNIS RODMAN. DID JORDAN BEAT SHAQ 1995 AND DEFENDED HIM? SO JORDAN IS NOT ALPHA HE CANT DEFEND SHAQUILLE

[@stealths15]

@ that´s one game. Many have their fluke 1 or 2 great games. Only MJ is that consistent. MJ is always the best player on his team, WIN OR LOSE. LBJ, few fluke great games. How´s LBJ´s game against Mavs? Against Spurs when they lost?

[@stealths15]

@ Rodman´s assignment is to defend Shaq. But he is not the best player on the team. Even Rodman knows that. MJ lost many games but he is ALWAYS the best player in the team based on STATS.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@stealths15 HE WASNT BEST IN TEAM HE WAS SCORER IN TEAM. RODMAN DIDNT HAD ASSIGNMENT TO GUARD SHAQ IT WAS LONGLEY. U DONT REALLY KNOW SPORT AND U TRY TO TALK. U DO REALIZE RODMAN IS 6'8 AND 220 LBS PF, SF NOT A CENTER. JORDAN IS LIABILITY DWARF. THATS NOT ALPHA