This build has been simplified by balance changes, the converge doesnt reset malice anymore, meaning the rotation only needs you to do the first part of the axe combo and then repeat. Mercy was also buffed making this way more easy. Remember to check the build page if you want the rotation listed out.
@yonusagi5 ай бұрын
I checked the link but the rotation isn't there, I think
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
link me what you're looking at@@yonusagi
@yonusagi5 ай бұрын
@@Vallunthe rotation section didn't load on my phone earlier for some reason, nevermind and thank you for the guide!
@geoffreyfey33755 ай бұрын
I've been seeing a lot of people in the forums saying Axe thief has been completely destroyed by the update but honestly the simplified rotation is stupid easy to maintain in chaotic fights. Was there a significant DPS loss?
@Nooctae5 ай бұрын
Ooooh... Well. I have over 5000 hours on thief, and even I didn't notice that the stealth attack axe returning was reseting Malice again. That's a very neat mechanic but it's very obscure. Thanks for the clean explanation.
@moody57635 ай бұрын
That Dirge of Cerberus OST though, appreciate the info and nostalgia lol
@agaaga77485 ай бұрын
nice valeera transmog:)
@blackalphadragon965 ай бұрын
Ooh i thought it looked formiliar
@touchdown0814 ай бұрын
0:01 Thieves gained axes to the axe... hell yeah!
@Erik14955 ай бұрын
Valeera sanguinar thumbnail reference? Cool
@piedpiper11725 ай бұрын
The venombite bladed weapons are all so nice. Focus, staff, scepter, guns, and shield are a bit wonky, but they nailed it on the blades weapons. Too bad there isn’t a venombite spear!
@Nitidus5 ай бұрын
This explained everything so much better than the Snow Crows build guide
@kawfii5 ай бұрын
Its not the same rotation (or build). This is a simplified version.
@Iskarel_GW25 ай бұрын
The axe mechanics are explained in full on the SC page, and have been explained in full since before this video went out. I suggest you do another close-reading if an 8-minute long video was "so much better". You can take 1 minute to learn more. :)
@lastmmoplayer5 ай бұрын
@@Iskarel_GW2 no need to get so butthurt by a random comment lmao
@Iskarel_GW25 ай бұрын
@@lastmmoplayerThere are recall mechanics not explained in this video, e.g. if you cast Harrowing Storm to recall right after throwing the Stealth axe, you won't recall the Stealth axe yet (which is useful to avoid resetting Malice like Vallun stresses). You can do this trivially easy by DISABLING autocast on skill 1 (unlike what Vallun shows), which will let you use Salvo to reset Malice just once (which Vallun is interested in). Further, if you spam Harrowing Wave to recall axes right after throwing Venomous Volley, those axes won't recall because they haven't stopped flying. Saying the video explains everything so much better than the SC Guide simply isn't true. This video would be better and more informative if it had all the information from the SC guide.
@lastmmoplayer5 ай бұрын
@@Iskarel_GW2 bro you got so hurt lmfao chill on the fanboyism
@minor_2nd5 ай бұрын
Very cool showcase, didn't know that the stealth attack axe counts as a second stealth attack when returning it. I do wonder tho, why do you use devourer venom as opposed to skale venom?
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
the vulnerability isn't that valuable so the poison just does more damage
@minor_2nd5 ай бұрын
It also gives torment, is that really less than the poison from panic strike?
@kessy6285 ай бұрын
@@minor_2ndDon't forget you also have Potent Poison to make the poison better.
@minor_2nd5 ай бұрын
Hm that's true, gonna do some testing on this.
@missk16975 ай бұрын
Honestly, I hate this weapon. Gimmicky mess that probably will be tuned down due to unrealistic golem benchmark. Wish they would just completely rework it.
@kagar34655 ай бұрын
I agree. I also hate the fact that it's only viable as deadeye in pve
@3dtechnologies1535 ай бұрын
Need a pvp build for the axe
@embreis22575 ай бұрын
build looks very nice (for the moment) - Vallun didn't mention it but when do you use the shortbow? how does the build fare when you don't want to be in melee range like Vallun mentioned near the start of the video?
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
you dont really want to be using the shortbow at all, but its there and if you really wanted scepter pistol might be a better second set
@BenaSPACE5 ай бұрын
I might use sceptre/pistol in place of shortbow, just so I can have the cc from pistol.
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
its a good idea
@pandaemonaeonaeon5 ай бұрын
Waiting for the wvw version!
@yonusagi5 ай бұрын
I've been doing the mark -> 2 -> 2 -> 3 -> 5 (or steal ability) -> 1 -> 2 -> 2 -> 2 -> 3 (repeat) but I find myself at times lacking the iniciative, it feels like I need to slow down a little bit to wait for the mark to come up for the steal ability stealth or I just need to press mercy and reset entirely, I'm not sure if that happens to you or if I'm messing the combo somewhere
@Iskarel_GW25 ай бұрын
Disable autocast on axe 1, then cast axe 3 right after casting Cunning Salvo. That will recall the first set of Venomous Volley axes, which will grant you Malice. Don't bother recalling before dagger 5 like Vallun does in this video, it's not better damage, it's just worse Initiative usage. 22(stealth)13223 is the loop.
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
i tried this rotation out as you explained, but it leaves me with full malice at the end requiring 2 stealths per axe combo instead of 1
@Iskarel_GW25 ай бұрын
@@VallunYou have to queue Harrowing Storm right after Cunning Salvo. If you disable autocast on salvo, that’s as easy as pushing < 1, 3 > at the same speed that we push < 2, 2 >. Then it doesn’t really matter how fast you do the rest of the loop < 2, 2, 3 > as you will have a salvo on the ground, hit max Malice from the 2nd Axe 3, then reset Malice with the axe 3 recall pulling in salvo.
@Iskarel_GW25 ай бұрын
Well, okay, we still have to recall the Salvo within 10 seconds or it times out, but that’s just by definition.
@rabiakaraki47345 ай бұрын
cool video - one question: why dagger 5 and not stolen skill stealth?
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
you can but youll run out of that so its best to save it for a moment where you cant dagger 5
@Hauntedshadow12322 күн бұрын
Stupid question. Would this build work with sword and dagger as well? I like the sword and dagger combo. But I can not seem to find a good pve build for them. Would this one work? Or at least kinda work?
@Vallun21 күн бұрын
youd just play the power deadeye build if you want S/D
@Hauntedshadow12320 күн бұрын
@@Vallun thanks mate!
@PlsReportDeci2 ай бұрын
Does this build still work?
@apollonian87685 ай бұрын
is it just me, or am i seeing wardrobe inspiration from Valeera Sanguinar? it's neaat tho🤩🥰
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
yea dude i love hearthstone
@felixpohlmann8665 ай бұрын
How come the axe 3 resets the malice? :o I dont get the rotation yet.
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
it's explained in the video but the reset is from an axe sneak attack which the 3 skill can repeat
@NIGH7HUN7ER5 ай бұрын
you mark your target with F1, then do the 223 combo, which gives you max malice, then you reset your malice with 51 combo, which also leaves that malicious axe on the ground, then you do a 2223 combo (the additional 2 grants you max malice again) and this time, the malice will be reset by the malicious axe getting reapplied from skill3. this enables you to use skill 3 twice with only one stealth, freeing up your elite skill slot.
@felixpohlmann8665 ай бұрын
Ahhhh okay! So the malicious Axe stays on the ground. And can be used to use the effect of a sneak Attack. Wow! That is crazy! Thanks you two!
@GlacierRain5 ай бұрын
nerf hammer looming ah well use it now before next patch
@ReyAudentio5 ай бұрын
Which is crazy because the Vindi still did more damage than him
@ReyAudentio5 ай бұрын
The willbender too almost if they didn't die...
@billbibillbi5 ай бұрын
So many people hate you. They all talk shit about you on the Twitch streams. Just yesterday they were running their mouths about you. Good luck out there.
@Vallun5 ай бұрын
they hate us cuz they aint us, we're chillin tho lmao
@billbibillbi5 ай бұрын
I don't know. You look like a B Movie Adam Driver, so I don't think it is that. Plus, you aren't really good at the game either. You just play bitch builds that protect you. So maybe its cause you suck.@@Vallun
@petejp61895 ай бұрын
Your voice a bit differents 😅
@lilbladeknight5 ай бұрын
Still a gimmick build weapon. They should have allowed the fanbase to vote because I'm telling you offhand sword or gs would be the most voted.