Confessions Of A "Toxic" Fan, Per George R.R. Martin

My mea culpa and confessions, as a "toxic" fan, as deemed by his Royal Highness George R.R. Martin. Whose brave insight taught us to be nice to corporations and respectful to actors, writers, directors and executives that disrespect the fans. Thank you George, fandom would be so lost without your guidance, pointing out the big "meanies" that we all are. #CorporationsHaveFeelingsToo
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[@ryrudy]

I subscribed as soon as I heard Culver's Butterburger. Came from Nerdrotic, will watch your career with great interest.

[@ThePaladinJock]

😂 Thank you! Much appreciated. I have a Culver’s 3 blocks away, can’t beat a butter burger 😂

[@toweypat]

It's not gaslighting, it's just lying.

[@ThePaladinJock]

I think George just loves to hear his own voice. In this case, his voice spouting disingenuous lies.

[@nathanscarlett4772]

​@ThePaladinJock at this point, I'm sure he can't come out right and say, 'it's never going to be finished', because of the billion merchandise contracts he has going rn.

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@nathanscarlett4772 You're probably right. It's like some of these studios just kicking the can down the road on projects we know will never see the light of day

[@nathanscarlett4772]

@@ThePaladinJock or the masochist in me thinks he has both books already done and is either waiting for the right time and/or his death to occur. I don't wish that at all. The universe he has already given us is amazing. Else why would would spend soooo many hours looking at others interpretations of everything in it. I just want the end to be 1000000000x better than the fuck you we got from D&D

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@nathanscarlett4772 These days nothing would surprise me. If this is all we ever get, I'm still more than happy and thankful. I just hate when anyone judges someone else's fandom. Was just a really bad look for him, even if he didn't intend it maliciously or anything. I just want to get back to arguments being like Superman with or without the briefs or Wolverine blue & yellow or brown & tan 😂 Sick of the pettiness.

[@temple2117]

Hang on, how can any prefer a Big Mac to a Butterburger?!? That's a step too far, #cancelled.

[@ThePaladinJock]

It’s an unforgivable sin. Clearly all the stress from Winds Of Winter is getting to his head…..and stomach.

[@wbbooth]

George has grown so resentful of his fans that even if he DOES ever finish the series (he won’t) there’s no way it’s tone won’t reflect this attitude. He won’t want to impress or inspire his readers anymore, it will be more akin to the lectures on morality this fat celebrity hedonist sees fit to impart onto "his readers", we the small folk.

[@ThePaladinJock]

He really did get rich and lazy.. And hey, nothing wrong with that. You earned your $, live your dream life. Just don’t ruin your legacy by insulting the people that gave you that good life. Bring on a damn ghost writer and finish the thing IMO

[@Red_Devil_2011]

@@ThePaladinJock That's a fantastic premise for a drama. The publisher is anxious to squeeze more profits out of an author's unfinished franchise. He drags his heels, so the publisher hires a ghostwriter themselves. As the writing goes on, the young idealist overcomes his fallen idol worship and tries to reignite the lost passion within the fat f-k. The new books are good; better even. The old author likes the money yet begins to resent the misplaced adulation. He doesn't want to give up the grift, and even if he did, he'd be exposed as a false author; and yet he resents the success of his ghostwriter. Arrogance which could be assuaged, and friendship found, if only he would simply be honest and get back to work. ...Also lots of gay sex and child mistreatment, probably. 😑

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@Red_Devil_2011 😂 That's more original and creative than anything that has come out of Hollywood lately 😂

[@Red_Devil_2011]

@@ThePaladinJock Thank you 😁

[@dragons_advocate]

I come here from The Real BBC. I might stay a while, and listen.

[@ThePaladinJock]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@junior1388666]

From the Better Black Community! Nice

[@nathanscarlett4772]

​@@junior1388666😂

[@glasswhisperer]

George is gonna eat himself to death long before he finishes game of thrones. He can say what he wants, he told the writers making the show the big strokes of what was going to happen, everyone hated it, George shredded everything he had written and he's never been able to figure out what to do.

[@ThePaladinJock]

I respect what he built, but you're right. He put himself in a corner and can't figure his way out

[@LimitedCheetah]

I'm a toxic ham...eat me! Nice vid, got my sub.

[@ThePaladinJock]

Thanks! Appreciate it! Obviously just getting started but hoping to get videos out on a fairly regularly basis here. Just feeling out format and length. Will probably mostly be video essay in that 7 minute-ish range with an occasional longer essay or some shorter unscripted takes. The ultimate irony with people like George, is that the people they are calling so toxic, would be unbelievably welcoming and share their fandom with any newcomer to the fandom. We’re all just sick of being fed uninspired garbage, with nothing to get excited about or share, meanwhile people like Critical Drinker are more entertaining than the actual movie/show they are commenting on.

[@Buford_T_Justice1]

I like the cut of your jib dude. Subbed.

[@ThePaladinJock]

Thanks Sheriff! Hold my hat for me! 😂

[@LearnByLeo]

this sounds like a tyrion confession

[@ThePaladinJock]

😂😂😂

[@Bioguy5]

I swear, the Han Solo point has become a dog-whistle.

[@lackingagoodname3930]

Trueee

[@aprilmae274]

...The Smiths or The Pet Shop Boys. This one got me. I am trapped in the Loop now...

[@ThePaladinJock]

Not a bad loop to be in 😂 I currently have “Hatful Of Hollow” on my turntable

[@arifulalam16]

You are not alone man😢

[@ThePaladinJock]

I just find it hilarious that we are called "toxic" because we want quality, if we're going to give up our time and money.

[@bad-people6510]

It was the people who most loved the early seasons of GoT that most hated the ending.

[@ThePaladinJock]

I didn't mind Bran on the throne. It kind of makes sense. They need someone to bring stability while the country rebuilds. I just hated how rushed it was and for once, it wasn't a studio's fault. Daenerys's turn was way too fast and about as believable as Anakin's in Revenge Of The Sith. If Season 8 had about 4 more episodes, and some stronger writing, I probably would have liked it more. Benioff & Weiss were just in over their heads without source material to work from. Season 8 almost felt like a spinoff.

[@bad-people6510]

@@ThePaladinJock Bran on the throne was the least of the problems.

[@DoodsUnited]

Unpopular opinion but I have thought very low of George RR Martin ever since I first read his books back in the mid 2000s, dood. So this to me, seems very in-character for him.

[@ThePaladinJock]

I’m kind of the same. I think he’s talented but also, in some ways overrated. He talks out of both sides of his mouth about Tolkien. Sometimes respecting him and sometimes dissing him if you read between the lines. George is an infinitely better writer than I’ll ever be, but I’m not alone in thinking he makes his books overly complicated to hide some of his writing weaknesses. He’s also always struck me as someone who goes whichever way the wind is blowing that day. He’s never seemed genuine to me.

[@tglake2894]

I saw another video that looked at ASOIAF from a bit of a philosophical perspective. It changed my own perspective of the series and GRRM. The biggest thing I took away from it was that ASOIAF is just unrelenting cynicism, about everything, with no solutions on offer. Everything goes wrong for everyone except the worst people; everything's corrupted. It's just so bleak. This in mind, I've come around to thinking GRRM is overrated myself.

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@tglake2894 Very interesting. Do you have a link?

[@tglake2894]

@@ThePaladinJock I'll see if I can find it after work!

[@tglake2894]

@@ThePaladinJock kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KYn5-MZ7-daLcsi=uoCgo0SWf3ZtkhYS I found it!

[@Lee-vk1xy]

Thanks for an interesting video. Guess I'm a toxic almost fan. I found the world and the characters introduced in his first book to be very interesting but by halfway through the second I realized it was a soap opera set in a fantasy world and I've never cared for soap operas. My wife and sun tried to get me interested in the video series but they made the mistake of getting me to watch one of the ludicrous battle scenes.

[@ThePaladinJock]

Thanks. Appreciate it. George definitely likes to overcomplicate things. For as great as a lot of the show was, some of the battle scenes left a lot to be desired.

[@KingofWannada]

Well spoken!

[@ThePaladinJock]

Thanks. Just sick of people like George tossing around the word "toxic" to protect creatively bankrupt corporations and then insult the fans because they don't blindly hand over their money and dare to have an opinion.

[@KingofWannada]

@@ThePaladinJock I guess that’s just Modern Day entertainment!

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@KingofWannada Sadly true.

[@GloriousRAT]

I too am a "Toxic" fan by George's (and many others) definition. However I am also the owner of a very Tolkienesque IP. I would never describe the feelings of non fans as being toxic. You don't like my work that's okay, it probably was not meant for you. And that is where today's producers of these disappointing adaptations of IP's that we love are 100% wrong. Star Wars fans didn't all of a sudden start hating Star Wars, we hate that they've ruined it. On the other side of this... I would never start a heptology, stop at book five, write two related books to fulfill my contract, and then go around giving my fans false hopes that I'll finish the series someday. FYI I'm currently writing my 7th novel and it is not to my publisher until the end of 2026.

[@ThePaladinJock]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. These fans they find so “toxic” would willingly hand over their hard earned money for a good product. Some, even a mediocre product. I have zero respect for any creator that doesn’t at least pretend to respect their fans. At the very least, fake it, if you’re that arrogant or miserable of a creator 😂

[@ThePaladinJock]

What’s your series called?

[@GloriousRAT]

@@ThePaladinJock The Erdani Saga (pronounced Air Donny).

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@GloriousRAT Just saw this. For some reason I didn't get a notification. I'll definitely check it out 🤘

[@stingerjohnny9951]

“Despite not agreeing with him politically…” Don’t worry bro, I guessed that already with a name like “Paladin Jock,” though I respect your restraint and not adding “sigma” to it 😜

[@ThePaladinJock]

😂I'll leave the "sigma" to the d-bags of KZbin 😂 I was an 80's nerd, hacking on early Macs, playing DnD, collecting Bronze Age comics, Garbage Pail Kids and proudly being a nerd. I just ended up getting tall and athletic, so I was basically Lucas from Stranger Things and like true universal karma, my "nerd" friends from back then are still my best friends. Meanwhile, the jock teammates, I haven't seen or spoken to most in 20 years. Thus the Paladin Jock. Nerd first, jock second 🤘

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@ThePaladinJock Lol i gotcha homie. I find us nerds stick together long term since we’d rather keep our friends than try to find new ones lmao.

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@stingerjohnny9951 That's because true "nerds", no matter where we all end up going in life, we can always come back and speak the same language. We can smell a poseur from a mile away, yet will be as welcoming to new people to the fandom as the OG's. That is where Hollywood screwed up. Nerds are forgiving and loyal, as long as you speak our language. Corporations tried speaking our language and it failed big time.

[@ThePaladinJock]

@@stingerjohnny9951 I'm 43, I'm big into all the classic nerd stuff. Manga, I need training wheels. But my friends that are huge into that, I'm returning the favor by getting them into Legends Star Wars. Nerdom has a reciprocity and its all about sharing what we love.