congrats! you have no personality

[@groovyghostnotes]

i’m tired of living in a bucket full of boring crabs

[@ٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴ0]

i'm not

[@groovyghostnotes]

@ exactly what a boring crab would say

[@venomousbunny9875]

I thought that was a sex joke😅

[@chocolaanimu4evaxx396]

​@@ٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴ0 Crabs sure love dragging everyone else back down with them back into the bucket 🪣

[@kwahujakquai6726]

Do you consider selfishness a virtue?

[@RatRaceRuler]

Then we wonder why so many people are so depressed. Everyone is repressing their personality.

[@xinn3]

Because you have assholes that either bully you or suck daylights our of you.

[@lostsanityreturned]

Worse, they are stopping themselves from developing one before they even have one to repress it.

[@adoniscreed4031]

Its not even repressing, they just have gone through life actively not developing one. THAT is cringey 😂

[@Ieatbatteries1]

@@adoniscreed4031something makes me think that you didn’t watch (or at least didn’t understand) the video.

[@Vincent_Rabbit]

I may say it's specifically modern social media repressing their personality, and the worst part is they're unaware of such thing

[@LegendsNeverDieJVC]

i unironically live by the meme "i'm cringe but i'm free", and yeah, it's kind of liberating to just allow ourselves... to be ourselves

[@Mafilovy]

Life is too short to limit yourself because other people can't handle you at your fullest.

[@namelesspotato4667]

as a wise man said "don't kill the part of you that is cringe, kill the part that cringes."

[@Sedow1231]

@@namelesspotato4667 That’s unironically deep

[@lauraporto9508]

"I'm fucking crazy, but I am free"

[@0909agnes]

I take that to heart, life truly is too short to hide myself away from the world any longer than i already have been. I recently started wearing skirts outside after literally refusing to for my entire life because i was scared of judgement, is it silly? A bit. Skirts are fairly normal but i think its only a stepping stone for me expressing myself through my clothes. Theres no reason to dim your light for those who live in darkness.

[@doll-friend]

y’all afraid of being corny but luckily for me I was born on the cob!!!!!!!!

[@doothi]

this is so funny 😭

[@dabriaaspen7343]

IM STEALING THIS OMGS

[@Vesperad0]

So afraid to be corny they miss the chance to be popcorn

[@mcrmakesmedance]

koRny

[@XohjaiSbarkeater]

BARS

[@Cafuzzler]

It's the Sincere vs the Cynical. Every generation goes through it. The Cynics drag most people down to their pit, and in the end the people worth knowing are the Sincere people.

[@magimare]

Came here to say that. As a millenial, I spend all my teenage years unhappy and depressed, trying to fit in with the "cool kids" and hiding all my weird hobbies and interests. Today as an adult I could not give a single fuck, happily spend my days diving into whatever weird hobby sparks my interest and am SO glad I learned to stay away from the "cool kids" :D

[@claremiller9979]

This is very much a teenage and young adult problem, yes. And you either grow through it and turn into a well adjusted adult who doesn't care about other's opinions, or you continue to care and you're miserable. The ones who continue to say having hobbies is cringe and they are grown ass adults are losers and no one likes them.

[@numberonedad]

every generation may go through it but it's getting worse. It's just capitalism

[@Cafuzzler]

@@numberonedad The thing that's making it bad for this generation is the same as it was for gen Z and later millennials: the internet keeps you constantly connected to every asshole on the planet. But, at the same time, you can connect with other people that have a genuine interest in the same hobbies as you do, where as pre-internet you might have no one in your area that has a similar interest. It's lower lows and higher highs. You've got to steel your soul against toxic people, and find those that bring warmth.

[@sandollor]

And what if we're sincerely cynical?

[@TheManyThings]

“When people call people nerds, mostly what they are saying is, 'You like stuff', which is just not a good insult at all, like 'You are too enthusiastic about the miracle of human consciousness'.” -John Green

[@benjamingeorge8241]

Do you remember which vid he said this in? I wanna go watch.

[@karleyj9706]

I think it's from a video called "A Lamentation for the Deaths of Nerdfighteria" on the Vlogbrothers channel​ from like 2008, but I searched for awhile and I can't find it :/ @benjamingeorge8241

[@jknifgijdfui]

you had me till you said john green that guys annoying and cant write

[@kunpunko]

@@jknifgijdfuiokay? it’s just a quote. doesn’t mean they like him..

[@lemonmoonlavender]

@@jknifgijdfui your unnecessary complaint is annoying and you cant write meaningful criticism, but here we are reading it anyway

[@kmrose4741]

"I may be cringe but you're mean and that's worse" is a phrase I will forever think about because it's just. such a good comeback and also just. a good point

[@wemustkungfufite]

also "I may be cringe but you'll never amount to anything" because what the fuck are they gonna say back

[@AFrogInTheStars]

@@wemustkungfufitewhat if they actually DO amount to something, say cancer research or something?

[@honeybeebo]

@@AFrogInTheStars with their pessimistic attitude i bet they probably wouldn’t achieve that. and if they do then whatever they’re still mean and angry

[@wemustkungfufite]

@@AFrogInTheStars then they've redeemed themselves and all is well. its a win win

[@poleve5409]

@@AFrogInTheStars it's the good ending

[@wygolvillage2637]

"What are your hobbies? I dunno, texting?" is making me so sad. My hobbies (video games, art and static website creation) have brought me so much joy. It just seems like such an empty existence to imagine life without something to care about that much.

[@SR-wq3pi]

My life would be super dull without video games, documentaries, roller skating, and board games

[@dollarstorevodka]

Saying texting is your hobby is such a self own too

[@ottz2506]

I would technically survive if tomorrow all books, anything to do with writing books, and video games disappeared, but I would be miserable for the rest of my life and not even my loved ones would be able to fill the massive hole the disappearances left in my heart.

[@thechikage1091]

See that's the thing. You're probably having a more complex cognitive experience that that person. I truly believe that people without hobbies just exist on a lower rung of the ladder of conscious, sentient thought. Their brains are just lesser.

[@FelixWheatfield]

What really gets me is how PROUD that person sounds about not having a real hobby, it kinda made my skin crawl. I still think Idiocracy is a terrible film with themes of eugenics and anyone who says it was a documentary has the absolute wrong idea, but I will say that movie portrayed a certain contempt for passion and disdain for any amount of effort into happiness from people that unfortunately I think is happening.

[@heidid.7582]

As a circus performer, this video means so much to me. Having weird ass, passionate hobbies is the joy of life! Don't let someone on the sidelines steal that from you. :)

[@AirBowDoesStuff]

I feel like the whole cringe thing stemmed from people generally being jealous of others so they bully those who are enjoying themselves to feel better about themselves

[@becsingleton7951]

Oh absolutely that girl gave me mean popular girl energy. Like I feel like she would have been the kinda person who made fun of me for being into performing arts/being a theatre kid cause they're too cool.

[@blarghblargh]

I still think ogling anime waifus is cringe, and I'm not jealous of the young 20-somethings who continue to do that. Anime is fine. Rampant underage "fan service", not so much.

[@apinchofdisappointment]

It stemmed from ableists trying to shame visibly neurodivergent people

[@zj9583]

@@blarghblargh cringe is the wrong word based on how you're describing it.

[@tulenich9948]

​@@blarghblarghi'm pretty sure you're literally the kind of person OP describes, unless you actually mean something other than cringe

[@mosscharger]

I've also noticed that if one's hobby is marketable (e.g. crochet, knit, other forms of crafting, etc) oftentimes the response is not necessarily that it's "cringe" to have those hobbies but rather pushing to make it into a "side hustle" of sorts (this is in no way dissing folks who sell their creations, I think that's super cool if it's something you want to do!). I could never keep up with it and I think for me personally it would take the joy out of the hobby. Like if it's not a marketable skill, it's not worth doing to some if that makes sense. :-)

[@gingeralice3858]

Gave up art in part because of this. A long time ago when I was maybe middle school aged. Getting back into it with zero social media involved or goal to one day market it has been therapeutic for me. I suck at art and I don't draw every single day for hours, but that's OK.

[@TheManyThings]

I used to write a lot of original work, and everyone in my life insisted I was good and pushed and pushed for me to make money off it until attempting to write was crippling. Not only did it no longer bring me joy, I could no longer even write well, or finish a project. I didn’t write for a long time until I had a goofy idea for a fanfiction. I finished that project, and did another, and another, and I’ve been more prolific than ever, and I know it’s because it’s such a cringy, looked down on, and moneyless hobby, that all that pressure is gone. My mom still tries to get me the file the serial numbers off though.

[@nmoney000]

I started selling things I make because I don't know where to put them lol. But I only sell stuff that I want to, and it's always a one and done. Doesn't make a ton of money but it did get me back into woodworking because I was kind of out of things to make for myself

[@SpicyButterflyWings]

Hit the nail on the head

[@angelsnaiilz]

YES! im soooo tired of this question (“omg do you sell your crochet?”). 😭

[@happytofu5]

I take any "mediocre" or "cringe" art performance anytime over super high polished AI slop with no heart. Let me see your passion, I am so sick of perfect, I want the personal!

[@kamerenhaliday6643]

Could I share you my “cringe” rock music?

[@klaraj.3288]

shame is gonna ruin so many young people, they see themselves through the eyes of others and they are terrified of being perceived in a negative way. Life isn’t about experiences anymore but an endless need to perform for others. It’s sad

[@vivvy_0]

Welcome to the panopticon

[@gunnasintern]

that’s why i’m an advocate for self expression and self autonomy. it’s good to know that people’s actions are reflections of themselves, so it’s also best to take nothing personally. performing for yourself instead of others is liberating and with how connected our world is there are always going to be others who support you for who you are

[@Jaguarkralle1]

​@@ville-c4u ???

[@shaquilleoatmeal7389]

@@ville-c4u you call hobbies 'cringe', don't you?

[@siphona_will_eat_you]

Going to? It already did

[@mz9500]

THISSSS IS SO REALLL my freshmen year in college I took a beginners level crafting class and was the only person with a background and genuine interest in art so I’d take my time with our assignments. Whenever we’d present the other students in the class would roll their eyes and sign when my work came up and nobody wanted to talk to me during our free work time and it was so isolating. At the end, the professor wanted to include my final project in a showcase for all the art classes and I was hesitant but I said ok as long as she doesn’t put my name and left it anonymous. I didn’t even go to see my work being displayed or ever claim it back after the showcase. I had built up so much shame around something I once genuinely enjoyed because of others opinions and it kept me from so much.

[@coolchameleon21]

that absolutely breaks my heart, for you and for the professor :(

[@autumntaylor2533]

Those people are losers

[@mz9500]

Aww guys I love this community and the safe space we’ve built to be ourselves on the internet

[@chellivision]

Wow, what a crappy environment those people created. Why punish someone for doing good things? Sorry you had to deal with that.

[@lifeisadrag7705]

That's genuinely sad, I'm sorry. I felt this way my latter half of art class as a senior hs student. Not to that extent, but I was rather discouraged.

[@JammyJams-84]

Sincerity is dying.

[@deethwarrior]

no, secrecy is rising but you can be sincere even if others aren't, if you do you may be shunned for it but its more likely you won't be shunned for long, *so be sincere!*

[@JammyJams-84]

@@deethwarrior Oh, I'm advocating for more sincerity in general, that wasn't supposed to be pessimistic. This is a really odd subject for me to tackle rn because im stoned as fuck, so if this makes no sense im so sorry. Also, I'm like extremely isolated now for reasons I don't feel comfy explaining rn can you like possibly try and validate what I'm saying right now god I'm sorry this is super fucking low

[@SpaghettioRegrettio]

As a sincere ass bitch, i felt this

[@confusedpotato5017]

yeah fr, like why am i embarrassed to be genuine and to care about things, let me be chalant

[@blarghblargh]

​@@JammyJams-84 hey jams! have a good one, friend!

[@Ghost-ql6tn]

The most empowering thing to do as a gen z is unlearn cringe. I will never understand how people went from boasting about trying new things and finding new interests in 2020 while we were all locked away to shaming others and being so ashamed that any ounce of personality is met with a hivemind knee jerk response of bullying the crap out of someone. Its only been 4 years, 3 if you count the other waves of quarantine.

[@nemmeton]

growing up autistic, liking things a “normal amount” was literally impossible for me. it always baffled me how the people around me /didn’t/ seem to have interests that they were passionate about - what do they think about, then? what do they do with their time? the answer is bully people who do have interests, apparently. it’s sad that we have a culture that prioritises irony and shallowness.

[@poogissploogis]

Yes!! I was always obsessed with something growing up and I was definitely treated like the weird icky kid for it. Now I run a successful business on the very interests that made people avoid me lol

[@devendasmusic]

Real

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

Autism is our power

[@ayior]

​@@poogissploogis Same, used to get bullied for drawing and liking nerd stuff, now work as an artist in video games

[@ictogon]

I beat autism, you can do it too

[@jojox1904]

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, it's sooooo sad!!!!! The only valid hobbies nowadays are "gym" and "hanging out with friends" or even "netflix"!!!!!! Like are you fucking serious I can't hear it anymore. And I tell people I do hip hop dance and parkour and they make me feel like thats SOOO niche and special like WHAT? When did dance become a nerdy/unusual hobby? It makes me crazy sad and I'm relieved at least I'm not the only one who feels like that and ANY song i turn on that's not in the latest tiktok-charts people are like "oh, INTERESTING taste in music!!" BRO!!!!! what!!!!!

[@Ross516]

and then God forbid you're TOO passionate about something you watched on Netflix either, then you're also cringe

[@solar0wind]

Oh my god, fellow parkour person here! I'm German and started 1.5 years ago (but currently pausing due to semester abroad). What country are you practicing in? And how long have you trained for?

[@dynomite463]

Exercise is not a hobby

[@samfine27]

I think one or two people might exile me for doing karate lol. I love dancers, keep doing what you love!

[@threateningcrow]

parkour sounds cool as hell!!!!

[@h0zi3r]

Gen z is its own sad beige mom basically, which is so depressing

[@iwannapunkhard]

Ich glaube jede Generation hatte ihre schwarze Schafe

[@Cyancat123]

That's actually a good point, now I'm wondering what the link is between this videos topic and the general trend of boring interior design.

[@P2NK_1]

I am genuinely ashamed as the older side of the generation.

[@naturazpolski9213]

XD Fuck off boomer. You see few people and say this is the whole generation. I don't know who is more stupid and depressing.

[@barbirelle]

thats why even as a gen z i’ll always think millennials are cooler. they might be “cringe” but they’re way happier than gen z

[@josiebellrichard7538]

Yes! anti-intellectualism is such a big part of this. No one has any drive to know anything... everyone uses AI to write or research for school.. it's like our phones and our society where things are so convenient and our dopamine receptors are fried has made any sort of discomfort an absolute NO for young ppl. so the discomfort of putting yourself out there is like unthinkable, or the discomfort of being bad at a hobby before you get better is unacceptable...

[@regenbogen_sim]

While watching TV the other day with my mother, a scene prompted me to give a little fun fact about what was in that scene and she said "that such useless knowledge" no mom, no knowledge is useless! Every tiny little fact makes you a little more knowledgeable. While she's obviously not gen z, she's gen x while I'm one of the first gen z's, I'm genuinely baffled by how far it has spread. And she doesn't even use social media. No one seems to appreciate how fun it is to sit down and just learn about something anymore. I can see why people might use AI for school, because school is... sadly not a good learning tool, but people also use it privately a lot. I've seen countless people on Reddit ask AI for summarized information on stuff which not only is blatantly incorrect at times, but is less information than I found with 5 minutes of research.

[@ellerose7854]

The way that tech companies are shoving AI down our throats genuinely needs to have regulations or a class-action lawsuit or something. AI summaries at the top of your Google search, summaries of KZbin videos, summaries of FACEBOOK COMMENT SECTIONS -- And there's no way to turn them off. They don't let you. We are being force-fed the most reductive, baby-food versions of any kind of information, and it is going to wreak havoc on people's abilities to sort relevant information from sources, and destroy our attention spans and our ability to treat things with nuance even more. It also totally defeats the purpose of even hosting a platform for those kinds of media in the first place. Why have a search engine if you're just going to encourage people to bypass actually clicking any links or going on any websites? Why host a video platform if you're just going to encourage people to not even watch the whole video and just read the 1-paragraph summary? It makes me so baffled and angry

[@ayceinquisitor190]

What you described as "chill" and "detached" is just apathy. "Its not that serious," "caring/passion is cringe" "humbling each other" that's all apathy mixed with ego tripping/power dynamics. Apathy is uncool, sad and pathetic. Passion is what will save us, killing our hearts is what will destroy us. My passion is impenetrable, no one will be able to dissuade me from it, because my passion is my love, my authenticity, my personhood. I would never forsake that.

[@penumbra__]

Just apathy, tally hall reference

[@LudovicaCarafe-y4q]

Dogs that got hit will bark

[@jojoslider521]

@@dayton9136 Lol its not.

[@AG-up7kx]

@@dayton9136 Being "chill" and being apathetic are two VERY different things. What they're saying here is that these people who are trying to portray themselves as "chill" are not actually chill, but apathetic. Which is a dangerous thing to be, for yourself and for people around you. "Chill" is being used by some people to describe a very sad, bitter, and mentally unwell state of being. Because to admit it's sad is not ~cool and ironic~ enough, it's too sincere and vulnerable- and they want to shy away from it. So they call it "being chill" Like lol, what part of these "chill" people ragging on the existence of hobbies ACTUALLY looks chill to you? Of course there's nothing wrong with being chill if that's really what it is. (not to mention hobbies can be extremely chill??)

[@budakbaongsiah]

apathy can help but only in small amount

[@goosewithagibus]

If your hobby is scrolling social media, don't come talking to me about "cringe" lol Edit: damn, this blew up. Glad I'm not the only one. I got made fun of a few years back for being into games and talking about Magic with my other male friends at work by some of the girls there. I asked them what they did for fun, and it was only social media. They were telling us we're just being typical males and that it was lame, and we're like, "Excuse us? At least we have passion for something in our lives." Not like we were trying to impress them anyway. My girlfriend at the time was also a gamer 😆

[@cloudpopfluff]

no because scrolling through social media with no other hobbies AND calling hobbies "cringe" is, in fact, the cringest thing of them all.

[@Cobalt985]

Never been prouder to be a furry with furry friends than while watching this video lol

[@RobotScarlet]

Don't come for me, but it feels similar to people who's hobby is shopping. Not shopping for their hobbies, but shopping because wasting money IS the hobby. While also mocking anyone who dares like anything "abnormal" (and abnormal is just liking toy collectibles or whatever).

[@declanashmore]

​@@Cobalt985 Oh man, furries. You guys are the perfect example. Absolute cringe in the social sense, but whenever I see furries in public, there's a real sense of fun, of joy. Now that I'm getting older, furries stopped being cringe for me and seeing people have such passion and fun actually brings me a bit of happiness, even though I'm not involved.

[@tonybablony2041]

I fw lego

[@vitadasgupta5336]

Girl this is so true. I recently redownloaded Tumblr and was taken aback at how openly people talked about writing fan fiction and I felt BETTER than them. Then overtime I realized these people were spending time and energy writing this beautiful prose while all I was doing was rotting in bed judging them 😭 getting a hobby is so vulnerable now and that’s why me and so many others are too afraid to pursue one 😵‍💫

[@MousingAround]

Honestly, as someone who mainly uses tumblr as social media, this video was really surreal. Like what do you mean liking stuff is weird? I’ve spent the last several years just like, chilling and making cringe art.

[@itzmemario-u6l]

​@@MousingAroundPROFESSIR LAYTON

[@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit]

Lol I made a tumblr account last month

[@sillyoctohuman]

@@itzmemario-u6llet’s go professor Layton fans!!

[@spaghetti5914]

People keep associating tumblr with mental illness and general toxicity, which admittedly is true, but tumblr is also amazing because of this! People just do whatever the hell they like on that site and no one judges. I found people who have a list of neopronouns are the most random fictional crushes, the most random thoughts, most random hobbies and... it's normal there. Whereas anywhere else people just judge. Yes there's a lot of weirdos and that can have horrible results, but it can also have amazing results?? Lately I had a fallout with a friend group, and when I recovered from the heartbreak, I started wanting to look for friends, but I had no idea where. So I will try out tumblr. That place is full of colorful outcasts, and I think I will find like minded people there

[@WyoteCoyote]

There’s been a handful of videos I’ve watched that have legitimately changed the way I think about my life and this is absolutely going on the list. I’ve been thinking about this a bit lately and trying to be more confident. I have a lot of off the wall interests that I “enjoy in shame” like you said, and I realized recently that I’m terrified of anyone finding out. Like, when I’m at work, I’ll listen to the Over the Hedge soundtrack and imagine music videos of my characters doing things. I recognize that’s weird, and if anyone in real life found out, I would probably think about it for months on end. Once I literally just showed my boyfriend some of my writing, because I write all the time and never share it, and for the entire next day my heart was pounding and I was running over in my head if he thought my main character’s name was cringe. Recently though? I’ve been just accepting it. At a game night with my friends, I streamed Spotify through the TV and my listening history came on the screen!! “I Want It All from High School Musical?” said a friend. I PANICKED internally, but then I just gave a grin and said “Yeah, it slaps”, and someone else said “It really does!” and then we all listened to it and started doing random off the wall song requests. It was so fun. The other day, I was listening to Weird Al at work (love that man), and a coworker approached me, and I just shot out (jokingly) “bro, don’t interrupt me, I’m listening to Weird Al Yankovic”. She laughed and gave me a little bit of a look like I was cringe (maybe she didn’t mean it that way, idk), and I realized when she left that I didn’t actually care! And it was really freeing honestly. I always come back to that edit of Wreck It Ralph where they have him say “I’m cringe, and that’s based. I’ll never be based, and that’s not cringe.” It’s so goofy but it just…it hits just right. I wanna live like that. Crab out the bucket

[@amethystimagination3332]

Chappell Roan said it best “you’re not FUUUNNNNN!!!! Be fun and try!”

[@RawrX32009]

The only thing I know about Chappell Roan is a single Eurobeat remix of one of her songs but from this quote alone she seems cool :D

[@amethystimagination3332]

@ basically she had a performance at a music festival, no one in VIP was dancing and she called them out

[@RawrX32009]

@ysf-psfx It wasn't shaming though? She just made a light hearted joke, no?

[@o7bean]

@@RawrX32009yes, it was light hearted

[@PIZZAdayisback]

Well, that's like when someone says "have you tried not being gay?" Well duh, most gay people have and it didn't work for them.

[@sadakopilled]

this is exactly what my coworker's are like, literally no hobbies or interests, no intellectual opinions, no style, only interested in listening to what's at the top of the charts. and whenever i mention what i like to do in my free time or who i listen to they get weirded out, well i'm sorry but if i'm "cringe/weird" then actually? i'd rather be THAT then a "normie", because that kind of life & personality just seems extremely unflavourful.

[@doothi]

lemme make a video on the npc crisis 😭

[@nmoney000]

"video games are a waste of time". Well Brad, so is watching TV for 4 hours every night, at least I seem to enjoy my hobby lol

[@SpicyButterflyWings]

Those poor human embodiments of plain oatmeal 💔 enjoy your flavorful life queen

[@nyandoesthings]

@@nmoney000 ACTUALLY though. she stopped complaining about me liking video games a few years ago (she played a video game and liked it, so they're okay now :/) but like if she was home, the TV was on. even without her criticisms of me i could not comprehend how much time she spent watching tv. usually more than 8 hours a day of TV and she didn't get bored? edit: somehow i forgot to say this was my mom lmao

[@itzfoxymisfit3069]

@@SpicyButterflyWings and even thats an insult to plain oatmeal (i love plain oatmeal)

[@gwynethdolen3275]

As someone with depression, I wish I could care so much about my hobbies and the things I love. I'm lowkey jealous of "cringe" people who are so devoted and excited about the things they love.

[@SomniaCE]

I suffer from depression and its so wild thinking back to my childhood/high school years where despite dealing with depression, I had a lot of interests/hobbies I wanted to pursue and actively dabbled in. Through one thing or another all of them were slowly phased out, eventually having me spend a few years in a meaningless rutt of not really doing much outside of generally existing. Took a lot of self-reflection and external support to finally put myself out there again and pursue something that I loved earnestly. I believe you can do it too, as difficult as it may be.

[@planetxtraa]

Yeah i feel this. i look back onto my "cringe" phase and well, i cringe, but damn i wish i could go back. I was so unabashedly me.

[@strawberrywheels]

@@SomniaCEim on that journey too :")

[@JustStarThings]

as a "cringe" art kid, anything's possible!!! (but seriously don't be jealous i constantly redraw the same hand 15 times and then the paper rips...)

[@mermaidmoongoddess]

As someone who’s had mdd since birth apparently. It’s entirely possible to still be depressed and have those hobbies. I cant let my depression stop me because I fear wasting away more. I already wasted away during ages 7-18 and it was so painful. I still have depression but eventually I developed compassion for myself and realized that I didn’t deserve to be in pain all the time. No one does. We are all just humans figuring it out and I hope my figuring it out even with depression helps you see that you can do it too. Tip# just do the hobby tired and cranky. Sometimes i get so depressed I can’t leave my bed so I roll onto the floor and read on my iPad. I don’t feel less depressed but I do feel like I’ve accomplished something and that helps

[@dhan07404]

One of the things I’ve discovered in my life especially as I almost finish university is that I absolutely love meeting people who love their hobbies and are so passionate about them they don’t shut up about it what’ve they’ve done and why, it’s so fun to hear people be so excited about what they love cos it allows me to feel so comfortable being like that it’s what I look for in people, whether it be friends or it be people I become attracted to I feel it’s such an important part of someone’s character and personality and those who oppose or mock it to me are not worth my time or attention

[@waxeightoneeight]

As a guy who grew up in a working-class household that couldn’t afford hobbies, it’s been therapeutic taking up interests now that I can afford them as an adult. I collect vinyl records, buy myself Lego sets, take creative art classes like learning how to build neon signs, and even have a couple of pet projects at home. People can say whatever they want about my hobbies, but the experience has been liberating and for every hater who has ever talked shit, there have been many more admiring my interests and asking for advice on how to pursue them themselves.

[@iam4w3enfp]

You seem like an interesting and unique human being, that is a genuine compliment to you.

[@haikatos]

Yes! I never could afford any hobbies, I did rollerskating in a public club, by skates were used, I only changed them when my feet couldn't forcefully fit in and still, they would had been used by 10 ppl before me. Then someone said "the cheapest hobbie is drawing" and I tried it out, I did like it, kept going to it and now that I can afford more materials and hobbies, it feels so therapeutic to be able to try things and give myself time to understand how it works and if I like it.

[@Gr8Sc0tsman24]

You are living my dream, mate! I am in a similar state since I have gone to university. Now I want to do tons more things and have tons more interests, but I still can't afford it if I want to get through to the end of my degree. You give me hope for better futures!

[@dumbdishwasher]

me and my friends use both "yapping" and a "nerd," as positive terms to explain happily talking/being really invested in something:)

[@IchigoShinagami]

For me it's: "Yapping's bad specifically when I do it, when others do it, it's nice, because they express their Passion."

[@dr.cheeze5382]

​@@IchigoShinagami That's a really unhealthy way to look at it. Yap away, as long as you like it!

[@vivi-ws9yl]

I really only use those words on party poopers. I don't understand why anyone could be so mean to say that to someone talking passionately about their interest, even if I would rather do something else rn

[@sithias2968]

this!! ive never seen it as a derogatory term i've just thought it meant talking a lot xD

[@NotPluto_Rivera]

Same!

[@T.H.H]

Everything I liked when I was younger suddenly became popular: anime, video games, fantasy. We were actually the cool ones all along

[@adeledesm8853]

As long as we are having fun and not hurting anyone, why stop ?

[@7meux]

Hit the nail right on the head. I feel so much pressure these days and even imagine inside my head that I'll be judged for my eccentricity, so I try to being more "serious" to summarise what I want to say, because I know the masses won't read it, yet, I'm one of the masses myself, and I don't even read the nonchalant stuff, and in the end, I prefer the yappers, cause they usually have better information.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

The moment you said dancing to k-pop in monster high cosplay my first thought was that sounds so fun! Loved seeing clips from it! 💃

[@mang0_cat444]

Wait a minute, ik you! Anyways I love ur vids :)

[@stormingchaos12]

i was not expecting to see u here lol

[@ZimVader-0017]

Oh, hello Athena

[@doothi]

@@AthenaPOfficial Athena!! so glad to see you’re back and glad you liked the performance!! 🥳🫶🏼

[@ZebraFish629]

I’m not into Monster High or K-Pop but those two things in combination sound kinda fun, low-key. I’ll join in just to try 😂

[@Lycaon1765]

10:02 "Get a hobby, nerd out over something, make a cosplay, do the dance, leave the bucket." That's an amazing quote and I'm adding it to my quote book!!

[@doothi]

@@Lycaon1765 🥹🫶🏼

[@ThunderStruck15]

Okay, now I want a quote book

[@VenusCoProductions]

Omg I have quote book too! I always thought I was weird for keeping one so it’s nice to know others do the same!

[@TheLadyWeaver]

I am 40 years old. I was a Mall Goth. I liked smutty fantasy starting with dragonriders of Pern. Reading fantasty was not "cool" when I was young, it was a hide your books kind of thing. Make 'em cringe. You will not regret it when you are old. You WILL regret all the phases you went through trying to "fit in" or as you kids call it "be socially acceptable". I applaud your tufting skill, your costumes, your kpop dance.

[@AidenGray-d8p]

Absolutely. The teenage and early 20s years are made for being cringe. It means you're actually just acting your age.

[@extra-terramisu5702]

Seeing a comment about Pern in the wild is crazy!! I’m gen z but remember finding one of those books on my grandma’s shelf when I was a tween and it changed me forever lol. (I’m 99% sure she didn’t know the book’s contents, my sweet conservative grandma). I need to read the rest of the series, they gave me an everlasting love for different, “weird” smutty fantasy

[@improbableopera793]

@@extra-terramisu5702 ...looking back on it, Pern sure is smutty. I've always been so jazzed about the worldbuilding that it was just part of that. To be fair, I first read them in middle school (obligatory Have Not Read Moreta Because I Do Not Want To Be Sad) but have still reread them about every five years since... hrm. The Dragonflight and Harper Hall serieses both felt like mundane fantasy wish fulfillment bildungsromans, but they sure do both contain telepathy smut. huh. wild

[@MamaAkina]

I love most of my hobbies to LITERAL death. And people have told me I do too much/care too much, cringe etc.. And idc! I've never regretted it! You don't stay in love with all hobbies forever, and when you keep moving on to new ones you acquire new skills over time. People are literally limiting their own potential because hobbies are "cringe". Actually people need to learn to share little, but fall in lots of love with hobbies.

[@ytisnottwitter]

"Make 'em cringe" is the best thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I should make a patch that says that

[@understitchYT]

In general this is good advice, it's so hard to be allowed to express yourself without judgement even in fashion (the industry I work in) which is supposed to be about self-expression and freedom. Great video Doothi

[@vinkei4521]

Honestly, as an autistic man, having a special interests, aka being passionate about a hobby more than it is considered "normal" is a big part of the diagnosis. A lot of cringe culture is rooted in ableism and making fun of neurodivergent people for being "weird" due to something we were born with. That's why I'm so thankful that now, as an adult, I can let go of my bullied kid years in highschool and actually find people like me who enjoy listening to me ramble about the things I enjoy and I can listen to them do the same in turn. I genuinely love meeting new people who are passionate about the things that are important to them. I'm even dating this really cool punk girl who's going to art school that I deeply admire for being so blatantly and unashamedly herself. She's one of the most chill, understanding and fun people to be around I've had the pleasure of meeting so far. And she said that the thing she likes about me the most is that I'm so open and genuine about the way I am, my opinions and the thigns I enjoy, and that's honestly one of the nicest things anyone's said to me, cause that also means she genuinely likes the way I am and I'm free to express myself around her. It's nice to have people I can unmask around, knowing that they like my autistic self more than the mask I often have to show the world in order to protect myself

[@vinkei4521]

@embe_r I'm sure you'll get there, eventually. Being a teen was a miserable experience for me so I hope you get the support you need soon enough. A tip for meeting new and different people that's worked for me is going to places where they partake in your interests, like lessons, conventions, hangouts and stuff like that, which is easier as an adult since you don't need your family's permission, but it can be done as a teen as well. It also helps to just get the courage to approach anyone you find interesting or cool, which takes practice if you're as anxious as I am but it opens up so many opportunities for new friends. I actually met my first bf at a small anime convention in my town when I was like 15 and he was the first person who liked how weird I was and let me be myself

[@aaronsk8s-h8u]

I know this sounds stupid but I feel like I have autism? I mean I only realized the possibility after my SPHE teacher was talking about Alan Turing being on the spectrum but I suppose it makes sense everything stresses me out and socializing is harder compared to me and other people. I don't know how to move forward I literally took tests online after school on that day and for some reason they said I probably have autism I don't know if even getting a diagnosis will make my life easier or will I just realize I am dramatic not autistic I feel embarrassed even looking up the signs and taking tests but my parents think it's waste to a test and I don't. I'm confused.

[@timdevries2202]

​@@aaronsk8s-h8udon't self-diagnose, don't really trust online tests either. But yes, go and see a professional about it. It doesn't even matter if you will be considered on the spectrum or not, you will learn something about yourself.

[@aaronsk8s-h8u]

@@timdevries2202 oh ok thank you

[@mabelfancymarie5418]

Autistic girl here and YES

[@caseyjones-esque]

I feel like the Disney adult video from Kurtis kinda veered into how people worship a billion dollar corporation and deify the man who founded it instead of appreciating the artists behind it.

[@caseyjones-esque]

but it should’ve stayed focused on that and not people just really enjoying things

[@AoiUsagiOtoko]

there's so much valid criticism to be made about disney as a whole but "disney adult" snark content is usually just barely concealed misogyny (and probably ableism, a LOT of neurodivergent people have stuff like disney theme parks as a hyperfixation/special interest)

[@cjboyo]

Yeah having a hobby based entirely on consumption is cringe, but also you do you. Go have fun.

[@caseyjones-esque]

@@cjboyo I think part of the reason we see Disney Adults as particularly bad is because of the overlap of Disney Adult and (Possibly Religious/Conservative) White People

[@tsuki3752]

i watched that video only once and there were a few good points in there but sometimes i do feel like people only bring up the good points against liking disney (and other things, like anime or japanese things) just to punch you down into not liking it. you can absolutely be a disney adult or a form of one and still be very critical and engage w disney (and anime, etc) material. i hate when people talk about, for example, how kpop idols are racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc. or saying how the kpop industry is exploitative, bc i know they are just saying that to show how their interests are so much superior than yours but not actually. its diff in kpop bc most kpop fans are hyper aware of the dark sides of the industry but i feel like a lot of disney fans are aware of disney's horrible history and current politics. not all, but enough for people to not lump the entire community into one stereotype of purposefully naive nostalgia driven consumers.

[@yoru5484]

I’m in highschool right now, I FEEL THIS SO BADDD!! I’ve been made fun of the fact I want to learn new stuff and I’m like, how the hell do you think people get good at something?

[@chellivision]

Keep being you, wanting to learn is such a helpful trait to have

[@Sneha-kd6lq]

Any advice on how to be less anxious about what people think of you 😖

[@zix1257]

the zoomers are cooked. sorry.

[@EpixNirvana_Fan101]

They aren't it's mainly just edgy teenage boys I see online acting like this ngl​@@zix1257

[@r4tz4sn4ckz]

​@@Sneha-kd6lq keep being you even if it makes you anxious. the people that like you and matter will not care. it gets easier to care less through time.

[@matgonzalez6272]

Thank you for this. I’ve long felt, and still feel, that if you start talking about something constructive that enthuses you and people’s eyes glaze over, that is a problem in them, an insecurity in them. Enthusiasm for constructive things always makes me smile. If you’re not hurting anyone, and something makes you feel happier, feel creative, feel better in any way, keep doing that thing. Too many people are afraid of being ridiculed for what makes them happy. Choose happiness instead ❤

[@mehless]

I've been getting into clowns lately. Trying to learn how to juggle. Bought cheap juggling balls, then found more premium ones. Buying custom clown clothes off Etsy. Have bought multiple clown horns, lost one in the forest. Got a slide whistle. I don't know how or why but by god it means something.

[@doothi]

find someone more interesting than you in a room i dare you

[@FloeAnimations]

Unicycle

[@thebolas000]

"Lost one in the forest." I have questions.

[@apocalyptic3837]

social media users may call you a clown, but what if you actually are a real clown? what then? "oh you're a normal person haha loser" ??? lmao you're immune!

[@KirbyKitten]

May i ask you... How the fucking hell did you loose a horn on a forest?

[@ms.pirate]

"Why make fun of me for having a hobby, when you're a sad, boring, bully who hates themselves" is what I would say to them

[@SR-wq3pi]

PREACH

[@notamobilesprout4175]

They’d be proud to hear that. Their hobby is spreading negativity for the sake of entertainment.

[@GreenEyedDazzler]

Did you come up with that in the shower? 😂

[@4our31]

@@GreenEyedDazzler a hit dog will holler

[@dollarstorevodka]

Honestly if one of these people even tried to insult me id probably just feel pity for them

[@mspaintdoodle9989]

From my experience it’s cringe to have an interest in anything that isn’t acceptable (being boring I guess) or having an intense interest and really enjoy it (*cough* common in neurodivergent people who are basically automatically hated by neurotypical people *cough*)

[@coolchameleon21]

that part. there’s only a few “acceptable hobbies” that NT have deemed as ok for adults to have. but don’t you dare get too passionate about them because it’s “childish and cringe” 🙄 idk what happened to our world and why people over the age of 15 are expected to behave like soulless husks. i saw a post on reddit a while back where this person shared a photo of their work desk. it was filled with drawings, art, anime stuff, some figurines, etc. just very fun and cool. at first the feedback was positive, but after a while they started receiving so much hate. people were so rude and saying absolutely horrible things to that person. they ended up having to delete the post because they received so much hate over simply having decorations on their desk. i also received a ton of hate for trying to defend them. so weird and sad

[@doothi]

yupp the "overzealous passion" i described is almost always a neurodivergent special interest or neurotypical people scared of being grouped in with them 😭

[@carolineholland5841]

I feel like America Psycho called this out, even if the director and author weren’t thinking of it that exact way. Look at scenes like the business card scene. Take note of the vapid things Patrick Bateman and his coworkers obsess over.

[@GenericPlaceholder6893]

Honestly this has kind of always been a thing, it's why the internet even got popular in the first place, cus it was a haven for outcasts to "meet" and discuss their interests. Nowadays it's essentially become a digital town square and everyone is now here, even those who still judge others for their interests

[@RenaissanceRockerBoy]

Cringe culture was created with ableism at its core and no one will convince me otherwise.

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

I sometimes wonder if those negative attitudes are just the extreme result of the age old trend of people picking an interest that they do not share with others and making it their life's work to despise, belittle, and mock that interest and the people who even slightly engage with it. Like, think about how many people *hate* a particular musical artist or genre far more than they like just about anything.

[@glowstickspinalfluid]

watching social commentary videos is so insane as an autistic person. the more i hear allistic people describe how they experience the world the more i wonder how people keep themselves going. avoiding things i enjoy is something i only do when i'm in a horrible place mentally, so from my perspective this really feels like a culture of genuine self-hatred. everyone is acting like i did when i was an emo middle schooler with negative self esteem and they're trying to act like that's cool. you are not cool for emotionally regressing. to be cringe is to be free

[@rejectfalseicons]

right, like how can you stand living like this? how can you stand having no true joy in your life? or connections? whats the point, success? approval? its so sad

[@chenlesbf]

real, like I can lie about my interests to strangers all day, awkwardly saying "yeah I like hiphop... rnb... but from the east, kind of...", but I can't imagine actually giving up the NCT hyperfixation I've had for two and a half years just for some people's approval and percieved masculinity. I'd be miserable! lol (also I literally got made fun of by some girls on halloween for having a halloween costume. like wtf.)

[@LiterallyInklingGirl]

Not going to lie as an autistic person I feel you. What do you mean you don’t want to love something so much you squeal and jump in joy at the thought of it? What do you mean you want to stop liking things just so others can like you and be this boring bland soup of humans

[@samsonnnn.]

​@@LiterallyInklingGirlDIB PFP SPOTTED X3 !!!!!!

[@miau5878]

dude its so annoying whenever i like something and am ridiculed for it, then a while later its all over social media and is trendy now... like.. WHAT??

[@Brownieizfaded]

Im definitely glad this is being pointed out. As an autistic person, ive never been able to hide my "cringe". Even through the regular masking, my hyperfixations and obsessions always peeked through. Its only now that im realizing its okay to like what i like and be cringe about it. I just hate that it came during a time where cringe culture is peeking its little head up. Cringe culture is only punching down. Its almost always aimed at autistic people and lgbtq people and POC. Im so happy that theres people on the main sides of the internet talking about this.

[@chellivision]

I relate so much to this. Some people will *love* it when you’re a little weird, but as soon as you’re “too weird” you’re kicked to the curb. I’ve always been an earnest and unconventional person. I also don’t do social things that don’t make sense to me (e.g. saying “how are you?” but not actually caring how you are). As a result, most people I tried to befriend in my preteen/early teen years straight-up did not like me. I was apparently “immature and childish” for… smiling a lot, laughing at the teachers’ jokes, and openly enjoying my hobbies??? Their loss. It’s insane that there are so many people who have been outcast like me, just for enjoying their life. On the bright side, that means us outcasts can join together for the *_ULTIMATE FRIENDSHIP_* (dun dun dunnnn).

[@amaedron_]

​@@chellivision not autistic, but real. I used to be so sociable and outgoing as a child, but then I got made fun for just being happy in middle school and now I genuinely loathe talking to people to the point I feel pain from being too overwhelmed :P

[@MihályIllyés]

yeah I get it. I ditched a long time friend because as soon as she started to work she become this Ebenezer Scrooge type of person who won't tolerate anything too extraordinary to be mundane. My special interest is the gothic, campy vampires, costume design and such. She really made me feel ashamed for being a spoonful too passionate about what I do in my free time. We broke up on valentine's day this year, I haven't heard of her ever since. My mental health has never been so good and I found new friends to talk to

[@UnfamiliarEyes]

I feel this. I’m autistic as well and no matter how hard I try to fit in, I’ll always be “weird.”

[@ms.pirate]

This has nothing to do with lgbt though?

[@VonHautkopf]

The new ways social media fucks up younger generations never cease to surprise me. Hobbys that cant be monetized online (or that you wont monetize bc you do it just for fun) are treated as a waste of time.

[@Nihlm2]

Thanks for talking about this, I grew up in a family where everyone wanted me to have a different set of values and shamed the mindsets of other people even in the very same family, and because Im apart of this generation and grew up with the internet in full swing the entire time, there was never an escape. It's basically impossible to believe in or aspire to anything without questioning myself every step of the way. While this video is focused on the less serious examples of people just shaming anything, I think the application is far broader and is genuinely perhaps the worst thing internet culture has cultivated. People don't want to understand and allow people to be who they are despite posturing like they do, and we let each other behave like this. Reflexively shaming instead of trying to understand, arguing instead of discussing. I would say it's inhumane but unfortunately we do it because it's *easy* for us *as* humans I hate the very idea of cringe, I hate the very idea of shaming. There's virtually never a good reason to use it

[@stewartgibson5802]

Yeah, this tracks. I have a pretty niche hobby (great lakes maritime history) and I used to be extremely energized and outwardly passionate about it. And then I started getting called the "boat fucker" because I talked about it a lot, so people accused me of being sexually attracted to freighters. That killed my passion pretty quick. This was freshman year, i'm in my senior year now, and while this is still my biggest hobby and I love it, and i'm getting involved with communities and publications that focus around this subject, I have a very complicated relationship with my passion because I feel ashamed of it for sharing it at all, and I feel that I shouldn't participate, so I don't and I drift away. But I love great lakes history, so I hate this cycle. Thank you for the video!

[@SR-wq3pi]

I live on one of the Great Lakes and the history surrounding these amazing places is a good hobby to get into. You're smarter and have more of a personality than all the people who mocked you put together.

[@stewartgibson5802]

@@SR-wq3pi Thank you for your kind words!

[@saycap]

This is such a unique hobby, I agree it makes you a very interesting person. Keep doing the things you love and you will find others like you eventually

[@TriggerHappyThoughts]

Boat fucker is actually insane. Cool hobby though

[@MonsterKidCory]

I was once told - by a girlfriend no less - that everything I like would be cool if I was 6 or 60. Well, I only have 13 years to go before I'm allowed to f*cking well like what I like 😆

[@NovaVanBuren]

with AI taking over everything, artistic performances included, i feel it is *crucial* that WE keep doing things ourselves, we have to keep writing, keep drawing, keep nerding out about our little niche interests

[@miamakesnosense]

I 100 million percent agree with you ❤

[@SerohYoon]

AI appeals most to people with no passion. They get to have the illusion of having the passion while still being the apathetic consumer they've always been.

[@SpicyButterflyWings]

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

[@ScoundrelChestnut]

"you took a skating class as an adult????!!!! that's should be illegal! " omg i'm tired of these boring pick me worms just shut up

[@slightlyoffensivedadjokes]

what gets me is that she's completely unaware of how she looks in that moment. like no thats not cute, hyberbolic humor thats kind of mean, youre just being mean.

[@serhiyroyter8434]

I started noticing people like this when I went to art school. I wanted to socialize more, and proactively introduced myself, and struck up conversations with my classmates. There was no problem in my art classes, everyone was taking those classes because they were already interested in art, and on top of that, I met furniture restorers, cosplayers, writers, gardeners, d&d players, etc. hobbies on top of hobbies. But in my gen ed’s, I was really disheartened at the amount of people who had no hobbies, short of scrolling on tik tok. We all consume, but in some little way, I think everyone should make attempts to create as well.

[@trumangrant6607]

1:27 "It kinda feels like the average hobby of 2024 is just consumption based." Fuck that is so poignant, I've never thought of it like that before. I could not agree more. What a line, great video!

[@lisaw150]

"Sneaker bro" is one of those. I mean, I totally get being interested in shoe design or the community side of it (if there is one?) or just wanting nice shoes, but building a personality around something that is essentially just buying stuff without doing anything with it. Then again, who am I to judge their hobby, maybe there's more to it than I realise.

[@calvinpetri7391]

honestly music has become like this too. it has become less about enjoying your music taste and seeking more out and more and more about flexing "cool" artists you listen to for some social benefit and buying as many concert tickets as possible.

[@markaged]

I'm reminded of the toxic worldview that I think the last generation (or maybe a generation or two before them?) commonly held, that was like: "if your hobby can't be monetized, or you aren't working towards forming a business around it, it's a waste of time" Only now, it's become internalized generational trauma, manifesting as disapproval for anyone having any interest, that isn't for career or education reasons, I guess? btw I also love Sophie Hunter, good ref, good vid, good fox too

[@justanotherguy9012]

I remember once when I mentioned that I played guitar, my friend’s mom (in her early 60s and very conservative), we got to talking about different guitars and she asked if I had any pictures of my guitar collection. I proudly showed her all 3 of my guitars lol and the first thing she said was “are you making any money off this? Time to get some gigs so those guitars pay for themselves”. It was toxic and very invalidating because at that point I didn’t gig and just did it for fun. There is some generational trauma involving shame for having a childlike enjoyment and amusement by a hobby, capitalism has also invaded so everything must be monetized and you have to become the best and compete with others rather than enjoy something for the sake of it

[@goober479]

Yeah this is so accurate as a millennial. Hustle culture is so prevalent

[@ringsystemmusic]

AAAAAAAA SO MUCH THIS. You can’t just make knives for fun, you *have* to be doing it as a one-man business. Can’t just make silly little tunes for friends, you gotta be an artist with published stuff.

[@selbi182]

​@@justanotherguy9012Nah man, I like to expose people for asking stupid questions like this. If people start to question your guitar collection, double down. Because by that logic, having garden flowers to care for is equally pointless and non-profitable.

[@thomas.thomas]

@@justanotherguy9012 i hate that, it's a poor persons mindset. if you arent so poor that you are starving or freezing to death then go for whatever expensive hobby you want better to literally burn dollar bills for fun than to be miserable and burnt out

[@mea5989]

We live in a culture that criticizes care. The language we use for those that succeed socially, like "He's so cool" or "They're so chill" posits the coldness of indifference over the heat of passion. The truth is, however, that no one stays cool to us forever. It's a nice status to have, but the people that know you--like REALLY know you--are much more endeared to you because of your hot wheels collection or the hours you've spend "yapping" to them about your favorite artist than they ever would be if you kept up the facade of being "cool." No one is cool once they are known, because this coldness requires an absence of what makes us connect with one another. Those who seem cool to you only seem that way because you don't see their idiosyncrasies. Once we realize this, we have a choiceto make: do we want to be cool, or do we want to be known?

[@Its_Art3mis]

Are you a writer? I love this comment btw

[@SenatorAwesomesauce]

Remember this mantra: "I may be cringe but you're mean and that's worse!"

[@ecupcakes2735]

oh this is good haha

[@michael.wsmrkov]

for me, i use the 'yappinator' label PROUDLY, and so do my friends. we are yappers and we are proud. i agree a lot with this video, people are afraid to interact deeply with art or hobbies.

[@mintykiwi]

the only time yapping actually bothers me is when people are drawing out small talk as an excuse to continue the conversation when they said goodbye 30 minutes ago, otherwise known as the midwestern goodbye and even that is preferable to interacting with people that have 0 hobbies

[@michael.wsmrkov]

@@mintykiwi exactly! only speak when you have something to say, but even if its just random unnessecary small talk its better than someone who's entirely boring.

[@NickiRusin]

oh man I'm yappinator 1000 over here

[@Vileplume87]

Yeah I WILL talk about Thing I Really Like A Lot and NOONE shall stop me!

[@liv.s.]

i was born to yap and i am proud of that

[@chellivision]

This culture so strongly bashes anyone who doesn’t conform, and it’s fucked. I thought culture had improved after those 90s talk shows that just mocked alt kids for thirty minutes straight, but it’s still here, just more subtle. As someone who prefers straight-up honesty, that makes the sly little comments even more infuriating to deal with. Oh my god, and “yapping”? I watched a video essay once, and someone had commented a really well-thought out paragraph about the topic. And some wacko just replies, “im not reading all that yapping”. Ok? Then don’t read it. Don’t blame other people for your laziness. I cannot stress just how much I detest the “it’s not that deep” mentality. It is that deep. It’s always that deep, bro. Life isn’t a shallow puddle to step in, it’s a vast and ineffable ocean. Finally: the “crab in a bucket” analogy is so good. There were quite a few years where I let the other crabs pull me all the way to the bottom of a bucket and step on me. I don’t do that anymore because, quite simply: the bottom of the bucket is boring as hell. Thanks for the video, great stuff. Also, Monster High rules 👹👹

[@ishkanark6725]

Yap (irony)

[@gunnasintern]

yeah it’s good to prioritize self expression and self autonomy, as someone who’s always been anti-conformist, it’s best for people to be open about their individuality no matter what. people’s actions are projections of themselves so it’s best to let asshat lazy ppl do their own thing and solely focus on those who’d listen to you. as for the crabs in the bucket saying yeah i relate with you on that, choosing to prioritize my well-being was the best choice i’ve made

[@leryco4803]

oh my gooood I absolutely hate the "it's not that deep" mindset too. You don't like to think too hard about things, ok, but don't group the rest of us with you. For some of us, looking deep into things is not tiring but actually the way we enjoy stuff a lot of the time!

[@emmelinesprig489]

yessss!! it’s always deep!! “Life isn’t a shallow puddle to step in, it’s a vast and ineffable ocean.” ❤️❤️❤️

[@sireffortlessgarbage7922]

Yessssss, we still have millions of people who make fun of other people because they have dyed hair.

[@tash4270]

I am 100% pure hobby. I crochet, paint, draw, read, collect, game, constantly creating, constantly learning, i need it! I have CPTSD and have always relied on my hobbies. I had no idea having one was even considered cringe now. I got told aggressively to "grow up" for using the 'just a baby' phrase last weekend, that lady DEFINITELY does not have a hobby.

[@lfglws]

0:15 no but genuinely, where does yapping come from? All the time I was on the internet, I never heard it and in the last year it suddenly came up

[@monkfruit2389]

Like how a young dog will yap endlessly. Of course, to the human ear, it's yapping is meaningless and needlessly shrill. Just another way of saying what someone is talking about is useless to you and has no real value. Is somewhat irrelevant. It's Wild how this obviously demeaning phase is being used so casually by gen z 😬 Like being rude is the default now. If I commented this on Instagram, I'd no doubt get an immediate." Nobody's reading all that💀"

[@monkfruit2389]

I don't think it was one person saying it that made it pop off tho. Like with demure. I genuinely think it's just another common phrase you can add in to any sentence to be disparaging so it had an uptick just because it's so social okay now to be self-deprecating and talk mean. Online anyways

[@gunnasintern]

it was a term created by people who aren’t willing to listen to people or read their opinions. basically, lazy close minded people

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

its aave but it bets misused by suburban white kids lol

[@Mysterynovus]

Yapping is an old word used from around the 1940s. It's just one of those words that's popped back in popularity, along with things like "sus" and "snack".

[@mottmatt7844]

I remember working in a summer camp and one of the kids there was really into trains. Like he had a YT channel about trains. When we did an ice breaker game his hobby came up and somebody said he had no life in response. He just answered with "At least I do something I like, fortnite kid." That kid is my hero to this day.

[@ZimVader-0017]

Dang, that hurt me and I don't even play Fortnite 🤣

[@NickiRusin]

woah you met the "I like trains" kid, he's a legend

[@SearaChar]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO STRAIGHT UP INCINERATED THAT HATER, GO TRAIN KID :D

[@gothnerd887]

This reminds me of my Meta Runner fanfiction. For context I interpreted the world of Meta Runner as a future ruled over by the Nerd Heirachy, basically pro gamers are at the top and train nerds are at the bottom. I had an alternate timeline where when the last of the resistance had to run away after one of them was framed for murder, they took refuge just outside the city in a model railway club in a dis-used train station/station masters office. The world of gamers was fought with drama but here were the railfans; separate but content with each others company and the model train set they shared.

[@kayla3246]

The "you have no life" thing has made me angry for years. They DO, in fact, have a life, but because it's not a life you personally would like you think that invalidates it because you're the protagonist of life. It's such a self-centered yet un-self-aware thing to say

[@lisehendrikx7058]

I listened to this video until 7:15. This is so sad, this reality is so sad. Why can’t we love and have passion? I’m not on TikTok, I feel like it saves me a lot of energy not to have to look at it, but KZbin short comments sometimes give me the same vibes, memes and phrases. I feel like this ‘wanting to not be cringe’ holds me back from a lot of things. This video felt like an eye opening to the internet culture we surround ourselves with, it absorbs us. Thank you for this video. I don’t really have a conclusion, lol.

[@0MochiBear0]

Live your life for you not other people, otherwise you're gonna have a very sad existence. By doing things you enjoy you'll find others that enjoy it too and create more meaningful relationships.

[@andreakurz631]

I love it so much when people are passionate about something, i don't need to know anything about the subject but seeing their eyes light up is my favourite thing in the world haha

[@jish8681]

im the type of person thats generally very observant of things in the world around me and i notice little things and im fascinated by random things, and man the amount of times i gotta hold back what i want to say at the last second in fear of getting the "its not that serious" comment is so frustrating. Like do people just go throughout their days without thinking a single thought?

[@plastehseen]

RIGHTTT

[@rachelelizabethmason18]

PLEEEEEASE share those things with people! They may find it kinda funny at first, but genuinely, expressing those things can help you find the people that you’ll really click with most. It may even encourage the people who are already in your life to be more expressive about their own thoughts, strengthening your connection to them. I’m a very expressive “extra” person a lot of times, and still my friends laugh sometimes when I gasp over a butterfly like it’s the first time I’ve ever seen one. But my mom said she has actually started to notice beauty around her more because I’m eager to point it out. Obviously we can’t always express all of our thoughts, but always suppressing them isn’t good for us either. Share your interesting thoughts with people, balance it with listening to what they have to say, and don’t allow a few negative responses to deter you from being real

[@zolexxis]

felt this as a person with ADHD, having to constantly underplay my interests and hyperfixations can be so exhausting, but i’ve just decided to try and stop caring! plus i’ve found some really awesome friends who don’t make me feel bad for liking the things i like more than a “normal” amount

[@Kristens.Kpop.Korner]

me too :)

[@zolexxis]

@@Kristens.Kpop.Korner yay! im so glad to hear that for you

[@andrxfxb]

As an autistic I can absolutely relate. My biggest special interest has always been the "metal subculture". Since it's now trendy to be "different" it gets really confusing for me when everyone claims to listen to "heavy music" but they all cringe when I want to talk albums, bands etc. Like for them it's cool to have a "heavy playlist" but diving deep and immersing yourself in the genre is considered cringe. So yeah I definitely feel you!

[@bransonallen2925]

​@@andrxfxb "I love heavy music!" to "Why do they always have to scream?"

[@aruvius]

there was a tiktok that talked about how lockdown pushed all of the mean socialite kids (“normies”) into fandom spaces and saw normal fandom behavior as weird, and that’s why communities have become so much more toxic lately. it’s like that comic of the pink beans making a box for themselves, only for the outside crowd to force them out of their own space.

[@angelsnaiilz]

YES I SAW THAT POST!! its so so true sob

[@phoenixfritzinger9185]

But were they “pushed into fandom spaces” or were they all actually exploring their own more “cringe” interests in both the safety of their own homes and in the freedom provided by the internet? You’re falling into the same crab bucket because even though those kids can be very“normie” “npc coded” or “Coworkercore” they’re still people with their own autonomy and stuff. Being in fandom has never really been a perfect paradise for nerds, stuff like this has been going on since forever. And don’t even get me started on how “BNF” status could go completely to people’s heads and you’d end up with messes like the mid 00’s Harry Potter fandom.

[@aruvius]

@phoenixfritzinger9185 I wouldn’t call it an “interest” if they hate everything about it and the community lmao

[@matholomewbrooksopoulos7085]

Nah, it's been like that for a while. Back in the day, the little nerd herds out on the fringe had a strong tendency to take on the more negative aspects of mainstream culture. Kids who derided their hypercompetitive, superficial peers for stabbing each other in the back in order to climb absurd, rigid hierarchies turned right back around and did the same shit to the few friends they had. Should they have known better? From a certain perspective, yes. I mean, most of them were fairly intelligent, and their previous experience should have instilled a bit of empathy in them, but... very often, they were lashing out at those around them because they didn't want to feel the sting of the whip again. That, plus a severe lack of social skills due to insufficient experience.

[@jck1232]

Unrelated to the topic of cringe itself, but I ADORE the vibes on this video. Very chill with the music, tone of voice, editing. I also love how you're sharing your craft as b-roll :)

[@YourLocalPunk-l4p]

THANK YOU. I was bullied so much for being “cringe” and loving my favorite band- Set It Off. I was always self conscious when I performed these songs due to it, but I still persisted. Don’t be shamed out of your hobbies- you are great at them. To be cringe is to be free.

[@doothi]

persisting past the shame is the only way to achieve ART 😩 TYSM i'm glad you liked the video!

[@mahimahsan6059]

set it off mention!!! i love them too!!!

[@asinglefrenchfry]

What is that phenomenon where once you learn about or discover something new, you start seeing it everywhere?? I never heard of Set It Off until a few weeks ago, and I love some of their songs, they’ve been on repeat. It feels surreal to casually come across a mention of it in an unrelated KZbin comment section now, only after just discovering them and never seeing them mentioned before

[@YourLocalPunk-l4p]

@@mahimahsan6059 @asinglefrenchfry Yeah lol, huge set it off fan here, I often make art of them too

[@DaniDumZ]

Omg I love that band too!!

[@stararlowe]

i know this comment will never be seen, but i just want to say: thank you for making this video. i've constantly been thinking and talking about how online culture has gotten so incredibly toxic. it feels like social media is now a safe screen of anonymity for bullies to hide behind instead of the haven of uniqueness that it used to be. i once got bullied for using proper caps and punctuation in a tiktok comment because i was "trying too hard." like... what?? people should be free to be themselves as long as they aren't being awful to others. thank you so much for contributing to what i hope will be the future of the internet!!

[@pindymint]

They said "trying too hard" when it's the bare minimum... Are they envious because you can type/write well? I guess so.

[@DanDanDoe]

I really dislike the use of “whomp whomp” and clown emojis. “Hi this is something I care deeply about” is so often answered with “whomp whomp cry harder”. I think because social media is so massive nowadays, and you never see the same people in comment sections, it’s so anonymous. And I really feel like people have become very harsh, partially because of that. The toxicity of social media has bled through to the offline world.

[@Twilightsonata-w7p]

I have so many hobbies lowkey this video is giving me a power trip and reminding me how much better I am because of my childlike whimsy😭

[@doothi]

never let the whimsy die 🥹

[@meowJACK]

😬 a desire for power, and considering one's self to be superior to others... Hmmmm

[@whatthehelliot]

i know its easy but seeing ppl struggling w shame and going 'wow im so much better than them' is how we get into these problems in the first place

[@pumkitdrawz]

111 likes

[@mmimmeow]

MEEEEEEEE

[@seon_njang]

Thanks so much for this video. I really needed to hear it. I was always obsessed with the idea of being nonchalant because I thought it would make me more desirable, cooler, and more untouchable. But i just can’t help being so passionate about things. When I was a freshman in high school in Theatre 1 i remember being assigned a sophomore in Theatre 2 for a joint class assignment and the director i was assigned literally told me i was a “try hard” and that i “did too much” because i always put in my best effort when i acted. It stuck with me and really hurt. I felt that all the way through high school. The more i look back on middle and high school the more I realize how much of a victim I was to this aversion of hobbies and this attitude of indifference and how much it hampered my personality. I’m still working to undo this mindset but this video was really validating to hear, I felt like this message was for me specifically in some parts lololol. Thanks again for your work

[@cugrrrl]

i hate that it’s become cringe to be passionate about the things you’re into. it’s actually so beautiful to see someone be so passionate and expressive about their hobbies/interests! not to mention that it really takes time to cultivate a space and meet people who enjoy the same things as you do and when you finally meet like minded people it’s the most satisfying feeling ever like your friendship is bound together by shared interests + things you love, and that is beautiful

[@rachelelizabethmason18]

Yessssss the other day my friend asked my other friend how work was. She says “it was great.” And I was like “great? That’s awesome, I feel like I rarely hear people say that about work!” And she literally said “yeah I love my job, I have to try not to geek out about it.” I was like “oh my goodness PLEEEEASE geek out about it to me, never hesitate to geek out about anything to me!!! Like why do you love it? What’s your favorite part?” Cuz like FINALLY an interesting, passionate response when someone is asked about work! I never even ask people what they do for work because most of the time, they don’t feel very strongly about their job. They picked out something they can do, it pays the bills, etc, and I just don’t caaaaare 😭 Like I’m happy to hear if you love it, or if you have a coworker who drives you up a wall, as long as it’s not mindless small talk!

[@kkaaiittlliinn]

i’ve danced my entire life, and while it’s not really something i’ve felt ostracized for, i feel the influence of the “doing too much” majority every day. i’m now a dance major in college, and i’ve had people act shocked when i talk about how much i love my major, how much i enjoy my classes and my dance community-so many chose their majors just to get a lucrative job out of it. i know i’m not doing the most economically smart or the most traditional path, but i have such genuine love and passion for dance and could not imagine doing anything else with my time in college. i am so proud to have dedicated so much of my life to a skill that will live in me forever and always connect me to other dancers, and i hope that everyone reading this can find something (or many things!) that brings out true passion and love for something. it’s worth it.

[@quantum.9883]

Mind me asking but as a dance major, do you really go in depth with learning the history of dance and choreography and how it evolved into the modern state. I think dance and choreography is definitely and underappreciated art, especially for one you practically see at every major music artist's live show or music video. Are there any choreographers that you find really fascinating and are really cutting edge/pushing the boundaries of choreography/dance?

[@kkaaiittlliinn]

@ hi! i’m so glad you asked :) in my program, we strike a balance between technique classes and more academic classes, which teach us dance history, anatomy, pedagogy, and choreography, which i really appreciate and find fascinating! dance is definitely an under appreciated art-it doesn’t share much of the commercial value as other art forms, so even though it is one of the oldest forms of human expression, it gets forgotten about. i’ve been privileged to work with some really amazing artists as a student-one of my favorite experiences in college so far was being chosen to be in a piece by our guest artist nia-amina minor. she does a lot of work with dance history and cultural memory of dance, and i felt so honored to be able to work with her. but really, my favorite artists right now are the dancers in the room with me every day. my friends who love this art as much as i do, who all have different capabilities and ideas and talents but come together to dance in our community. i have experienced things in our normal technique classes that i can’t explain to anyone-moments that can only live on in memory in the way dance must. i am so grateful to be among them, feeling their passion, feeling that work that we all chase.

[@caseyhansen7914]

Thats beautiful and quite similar to how i feel about drawing. I think a lot of people never find a passion for any specific thing, and im not sure if its envy, jealousy, or even just genuine confusion, but i think some people just don't understand what its like to feel that way about an interest or career path. So of course they take it out on people like us.

[@thepicferret]

Yeah, so, actual comment now, I'm having this exact problem but like with my core friend group, it is so weird because it wasn't like this before and and yeah, none of my co-workers are "nerding out" about anything or having any personality or this culture of calling anyone who is openly talking about anything a yapper. This emotionless sarcasm and a need for irony everywhere is so annoying. When did we stop being humans? I've been finding myself talking about things that are important to me and then a friend, a really good friend, just starts like trying to tell me to talk less because it's "too much words" and i need to stop yapping. It is so sad that we live in an age where we can't express ourselves these days. Really sad to have to isolate and only communicate with certain people because there is no one else that is "normal" anymore... This is a very annoying subject to me. Sorry for posting a wall of text but this is such an important topic

[@doothi]

ahhh you're making me want to make a part 2... I absolutely hate how everything has to be covered in a thick layer of irony or nonchalance-- like everything has to be a joke or "not that serious"

[@thepicferret]

🙏 need to fix this generation​@@doothi

[@corncobbob2326]

Keep talking and being passionate. I hope you find better friends if they're not gonna improve.

[@Jjdb8211]

Ngl your friend sounds like a pos, i think youd be better off without them

[@BarbieDreamDungeon]

I'll be yapping always and forever and I can't be stopped

[@emmabyhre6411]

As an older gen z who in the past few years have intentionally picked up more hobbies. I didn’t realize that this was happening, especially to younger folks. That sucks cuz caring is a lot of fun. Maybe as you get older, you care less. I just turned 26 and i have now surrounded my life with people who care a lot about certain topics. I hope that this is just something younger people grow out of but who knows.

[@homelessperson5455]

You think you have it hard until you remember the Taxidermy enthusiasts.

[@terryt9833]

I'm here! Tbh I think people are more scared of me than thinking I'm cringe. Makes me feel a little powerful lol. Although the usual "you're a psychopath and evil" does hurt, cause we don't kill anything, it's art that just happens to be made of fur and bones.

[@friday13thirteen]

i'm just out here collecting little ducks and rabbits for my apartment forgetting that it will make some people think i'm genuinely deranged 😔💀i just appreciate a lil critter

[@Phoenix.Sparkles]

@@terryt9833 Maybe it's because taxidermy hits the sweet spot with regards to the uncanny valley? It's literally a stuffed corpse, it's unavoidable that people will be creeped out or find it weird. However, I think it's a very important and interesting hobby, even if I wouldn't personally want a taxidermy fox in my window.

[@viktorvictorian4206]

@@Phoenix.Sparklesthis is actually a very common misconception! Taxidermy is not exactly stuffing a corpse, it’s more like taking the pelt and only the pelt (sometimes people use the skull for the head but that’s about it) and fitting it to a very specific mount that designed for a certain species. Very little of the actual corpse is really used in taxidermy, taxidermy is mostly just fancy leather making and it’s a really interesting art form!

[@JustA-Person]

My stepdad unironically calls things cringe all the time despite the fact he has hobbies most would consider “cringe” like dnd he has sessions with his friends every weekend he even collects and hand paints miniatures and he’s good at it but it’s just u can tell that he’s sorta ashamed of his hobbies cause he didn’t even mention dnd to my mom when they were dating until he invited her to his house and she saw his collection it’s just it makes me sad you know like god forbid he have a hobby I guess to this day my mom wants nothing to do with his dnd stuff

[@foxbuns]

i think a big issue is that a lot of kids are not pushed to develop a personality or hobbies. they're left alone with an ipad/iphone to raise them. of course if your eyes are glued to a screen 24-7 you won't be able to develop any personality. kids need to be put into activities and clubs, sent to volunteer, gifted craft kits so they can learn new skills.

[@doothi]

ooooh potential part two topic?? 👀

[@Arakus99]

I was pushed into that stuff and still ended up kinda bland and generic bc I just wanted to go back to playing video games or watching youtube :P never really found any hobbies that didn’t just feel like a chore to me (Though I do keep meaning to try getting into board games or ttrpgs maybe? I’m kinda too shy and socially anxious though and I feel like I wouldn’t have the patience for them… idk)

[@LadyHomosapien]

I mean, real but not real, these internet spaces are what evolved my interests, but devolved my actual communication skills and just any outside hobbies. I like to go on walks (albeit rarely, i cant even go out on my own), because what else can I do?

[@spectre7006]

@@doothidefinitely go and make that video! my little brothers are in the same boat and i’ve been trying to push them to actually get hobbies, a personality and stop bedrotting and doomscrolling, maybe sending them a short video essay might be better than a lecture from me.

[@cs5986]

Cringe is such a moving target - it speaks to someone else’s reaction to me. There’s no way to measure it except by someone else’s standards. That puts the measure of my quality of life in someone else’s hands and whims. F that.

[@PedroBenolielBonito]

5:30 and conversely, for a generation who says everything is 'not that deep', you take EVERY. LITTLE THING. Oh. SO. Very. Seriously.

[@SpicyButterflyWings]

That's because when they say "it's not that deep" what they *really* mean is "i don't care" I don't know if it's compassion fatigue or the social trauma and isolation from covid or what, but so much of Gen Z can't handle giving the time of day to what other people care about

[@LalaWatches]

"its not that deep" usually means "let me continue to shame others over it, stop trying to not be a bully"

[@marz9487]

In school I was bullied and avoided for being the weird kid. I even had someone tell me I gave "school shooter" vibes once just because I barely talked to anyone. In college my friends tell me that they love me for being one of the most genuine, soulful people around. Please be yourself, for the love of god. Don't be afraid to stand out.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Can’t wait to get into college and make friends after not having friends in high school HAHAHA

[@saycap]

Been there. Putting myself out there is painful but I’m slowly drawing people to me that care just as much as I do.

[@aHeroWith1000Names]

Yeah it's both a blessing and a curse that high school mixes in people from all walks of life, makes it pure rng with decent chances of being seen as weird, getting into a college and degree fit for one's nature makes it much easier to find like-minded individuals

[@MoulderingMortal]

I was the quiet kid too and heard comments from teachers about "the quiet ones". I was being abused at home.

[@barbirelle]

ive always been bullied, now i am an artist and i’m happy. you can be the sweetest peach in the tree but some people just don’t like peaches

[@quinn_white]

you have no idea how much inner strength it took to put up Kpop posters on my wall due to fighting my own inner cringe. I was like "What if I have people over and they see them?"... like it was bad to openly display things that I paid for?? Having hobbies is so underrated and overlooked, and its now considered "brave" to outwardly enjoy things. Thanks for another Doothi banger as usual.

[@mz9500]

That’s was me with anime posters but now idc cuz that’s MY space and whoever doesn’t like it can leave

[@gunnasintern]

having interests and hobbies are as human as breathing too. no doubt some nobles in the 1800s were putting up cool paintings they bought. it’s cool to see people show their support for self expression and self autonomy, those two are things that society desperately need to cherish

[@ourladymetamagic]

The bit that interests me is what you mention about ambition. It's not that folks are against ambition, I feel. It's what ambitions people have and why that lots of folks have a problem with. K-pop dancing? For some reason, that's not a "good" ambition. Don't ask me why. I think that's a wonderful ambition. Dancing is wonderful. I'm not a K-pop fan, but I am a K-pop stan, and I love dancing as an embodied action and as an idea. However, folks with power in the US don't like people dancing, and they especially don't like people dancing to international music. There's a lot to unpack there, I know, but it's there. They want us to have ambitions that disconnect us from each other and ourselves, or at least, ambitions that they can harness. To be clear, when I say "folks with power," I mean bosses, landlords, cops, property owners, and government officials. I'm not talking in conspiracy theory "shadow government" conspiracy theory terms. I'm talking about folks who make decisions about our day to day lives. What brought this all to mind for me was something I read in the English translation of a Japanese novel titled "Kyoko's House", published in (I think) 2008. It's related to a coup d'etat attempt in 1975 at the Ichigaya Military Base in Japan in 1975. I am "cringe" in my own ways. ;) I've come to embrace it.

[@charlotteclarke868]

Reminds me of the 90s, the era of grunge and irony, where showing any enthusiasm was so uncool. I feel like Millennials saved us from this with their cheerful, earnest culture but now we're heading back in that sad direction!

[@awldune]

Gen X def had this going on

[@MonsterKidCory]

Millennials were even worse. Chill is better than actively judgemental.

[@hemlocklatte]

I remember when we made being a nerd cool 😔 being in my 20s in the 2010s was so fun.

[@BlownMacTruck]

Gen X had this, but they also moved on from it as a whole. Millennials didn't save them from anything, and it's a little weird for you to credit a subsequent generation who went through the EXACT same thing as the previous generation's savior without providing any kind of basis for this position.

[@LalaWatches]

Millennials were beaten down by Gen X and boomers non-stop for the last I don't know what 45 years. We're tired

[@starsomely]

proud to write fanfiction self inserts, to watch shoji anime, to love miku, and to be obsessed with disney channel original movies

[@doothi]

y/n fics are my bedtime story and hsm 2 is genuinely a masterpiece no one can change me 😫

[@seagaulle]

Same with the fanfiction and self inserts, for a long time I used to think it was cringe, especially historical RPF. Then one day I woke up with a cool idea and wrote an entire fic, in that moment I didn’t really feel “cringe” I just felt so passionate about my work. Then I realized RPF is basically the same as historical fiction which is (mostly) viewed as normal and now I’ve learned to embrace myself and get over the part of me that cringes.

[@saltiestsiren]

​@@doothi Same and YES

[@louisshousewife]

fanfiction is the realest thing in the world🙏

[@mimik222]

X reader for life 🙏😛

[@dit-zy]

i hate that hobbies and personal interests are being turned into performance art for social approval. i want to do those things for my own fulfillment, not for someone else's approval. so what if i find someone else's interests embarrassing? that's a me problem. why should they care what i think, if i don't get their interests? and how dare i try and shame them into caring what i think.

[@luckas221a]

just do it ironically until you’re confident enough to do it passionately

[@Lacewise]

I feel like this is a huge red flag for rising anti-intellectualism and a warning sign that good quality information is about to be re-privatized Also this reminds me of how people don’t like overt marketing anymore so it’s become more subtle-which convinces people that more overt methods are “scammy” even though it’s often because people just… don’t know the more advanced manipulative methods that professional marketers use.

[@aHeroWith1000Names]

Could you please elaborate on what you mean by re-privatization of knowledge?

[@Lacewise]

@ I mean gatekept in a general sense. The actual word I was looking for was “paywalled” but I figured re-privatized was close enough, since making correct information public was the work of several centuries (also I forgot the word paywall). I already see people argue that people who don’t have access to university libraries or academic papers deserve the common misinformation floating around the internet. I’ve even seen influencers who spread oversimplified or misinformation arguing they should get paid for spreading bad information to the public and if the masses don’t like it they should become better educated. Which is just an argument that post secondary school (universities and colleges) should take the place in high school (since people fought for high school to teach critical thinking, civics, and various kinds of literacy [textile, financial, information, media, scientific are the ones that come to mind but I know there are more]). And high school is no longer able to teach those skills because class sizes are too big (preventing children from learning, requiring more and more repetition of the same information), too underfunded, and too focused on test scores instead of logic or self-discipline (ie, not how much information you can memorize, but how well you can locate and understand information you need). Additionally you lose access to most good information once your affiliation with academia is gone because academic journals and books are far too expensive to buy outright (deliberately so). Getting rid of public access to education and resources is a relaunch of class stratification since if schools don’t teach you, say, financial literacy, and your parents don’t know it, odds are you will also be financially illiterate. That the information technically exists somewhere is immaterial if you can’t find or evaluate it in a way that benefits yourself. That’s why experts exist. But now we have public “experts” (influencers) and private experts (actual specialists). And public experts are seen as a replacement for public education. And many of those public “experts” are getting paid a lot more for spreading bad information than teachers ever were for teaching skills. While public “experts” consistently argue not only should they be paid but they should go unregulated. The situation is dire and people will soon be arguing that because people are already uneducated and uninterested in education or self-improvement (as if that happened naturally or by chance), regular access to educational resources should be restricted or rescinded altogether. They already are arguing, implicitly, that corporations are the correct stewards of information. And that’s what I mean by “general gatekeeping”. I’ve seen a lot of these arguments calling out either countries that don’t have free public libraries or singling out the US but from what I’ve seen reading social media many, many countries are going through some version of this. And this isn’t even getting into information being so siloed it’s causing material knowledge degradation. Hopefully that made sense. EDIT: TL;DR: average libertarian take: “people don’t need real information because they hate it. So everyone should resent information and only being given information that will pacify them.” I’m a little alarmed people don’t notice how pro-corporate and anti-regulation, anti-public, and anti-transparency it is.

[@winrawrisyou]

@@Lacewise I'm a little confused by why you called "actual specialists" "private" experts. A lot of, for example, public universities have experts that put out information as part of their jobs. "Additionally you lose access to most good information once your affiliation with academia is gone" Does your institution do that? I can still log in mine (years after graduating) and access journal articles. Plus libraries often also buy access to some stuff. Your point on high school-I definitely think that's the most alarming. One symptom that has stuck out to me for years is the way people fit science papers into their arguments/worldview. They're used just like in high school. high school days: I gotta pad out my sources section. I chose to argue x so I'm just gonna look for any paper that has a sentence that sounds like it supports x. real life argument: I believe x. I'll google papers supporting x. This title/abstract/1 sentence sounds like it supports x! I find it quite rare that a person looking to argue something actually reads a substantial part of a paper. First, they already firmly hold the belief before they had evidence. Then, even if they'll spend time to write some long dumb argument, they'll spend 0 time checking anything about the papers they cite. Not the statistics/numbers, not the methodology, not conflicts of interest, and probably not that the paper even supports what they're saying. I don't mean that I expect someone to check ALL of those, for it is quite a time-consuming and dry process, but it's surely worth checking at least a little! And, to tie this back to the earlier point, I'm not so worried about access to science journals from the public, because in the first place people aren't educated (or disciplined?) enough to make good use of it anyway. Not to say that lack of access is not an issue, but more that IMO, lack of critical thinking is a much bigger problem. 'And many of those public “experts” are getting paid a lot more for spreading bad information' So sad to see. I watched a video from Tom Nicholas about Veritasium. The latter did a video ad about Waymo autonomous taxis. Tom Nicholas's main point was that Veritasium minimized the fact that it was an ad-a quick sentence dismissed with a shrug-and was totally uncritical about the tech. And Veritasium replied in the comments many times, ignoring the crux of the video, instead only talking about how autonomous vehicles are great and Tom Nicholas's criticisms of them were wrong. It was crazy to me how much he was trying to sweep the issue under the rug. After all, surely he didn't misunderstand the point, because the vast majority of the comments (which included many other YTers who had done or had the opportunity to do similar deals) understood the point of the video, but Veritasium chose to act like he did nothing wrong. And he's not the only one...

[@Lacewise]

@@winrawrisyou it’s difficult to explain my thought process without going into the history of academic exclusivity and misconduct because otherwise my reasoning would sound paranoid. I don’t mean to imply they’re all trying to be exclusionary. I do see that as the result. If you’re not familiar with why, assume what I’m saying is unsound. Having done research for a video now I’d say that influencers spreading misinformation works exactly how you’ve described: they don’t want to do the work do they ignore contradictory or complexing information. Which also means they have a vested stake in their audience not actually learning anything. I’d put public librarians and (good) scientific and academic communicators in a separate category, of “public specialist”. (Although if we wanted to get into there are also public generalists who aren’t deliberately oversimplifying, they’re just trying to introduce people to subject matter). But given how niche and small those industries are compared to influencers… (I didn’t put this in the original reply because it is VERY easy to assume an influencer is actually a communicator which is another way bad information is passed off as good). Ultimately it reminds me of the Mark Twain quote, “a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” Because influencers can afford to be more salacious and entertaining and, therefore, less truthful. I disagree about access because I don’t think people will understand it until they’re more familiar. Getting them to value what they’re losing is probably a separate issue with a separate fix. However I think a huge underlying problem we’re both touching on is people thinking anything that takes time is not worth doing for them, and only maybe for someone else (if you can convince them it’s profitable). Things people take as inefficiencies are so often quality checks that I don’t understand exactly how so many people were convinced that ripping out quality controls… wouldn’t lead to worse quality….? Yes, there are many current examples of presenting marketing as truth. People’s media literacy is especially low. I can’t watch certain KZbin genres now unless I’m willing to fact check everything in real time. EDIT: also yes as far as I know it’s commonplace to lose access to educational materials once your time at university is over.

[@KirbyKitten]

It has been privatized for a long time boy, search for anything in google scholar most links will be behind a paywall.

[@squishy_silly]

One of the biggest lessons I've learned about authenticity was around ten years ago when I'd feel bad for liking mlp despite being the literal target audience, then I'd see grown ups liking mlp too (though now I get many of them were probably being ironic), and understand there was no age to like what you like. We should be able to freely express ourselves, it's a literal human right, and the fact culture is shifting towards oppressing it is... sad, to say the least. Great video! I'd really like to see a part 2

[@humanhumanson-jr8sk]

i was the my little pony girl too. when i was a kid people made fun of me for being too happy, i wish i was still "too happy". we live in such a dumb world. be who you really want to be anyway, don't try to market yourself 24/7. it wouldn't even be worth it if it worked.

[@gunnasintern]

for real there’s no limit to liking what you like. as long as you’re being respectful and happy for yourself that’s what matters the most

[@Sillybook_faires]

​@ville-c4u bro what💀 can you like shut up this is a comment section dude let them speak

[@March_Silly]

I've been saying this recently. It feels like everyone has grown to be ashamed of everything sincere, like we're scared of being geniune and to show who we are so we hide it under false apathy and autoderision. I have vivid memory of being said smth along the lines of 'you grew up andstopped showing your personality because you're scared of sincerity which doesn't mock itself" and it hit me very hard because it made me realize it *actually* comes from the toxic highschool environnement. We've lived like some sort of collective trauma (either due to being victims or witness of bullying) that made us incapable of assuming we like something as long as it's not been commonly accepted around us ; and as a result we're constantly looking for someone to tell us what we should enjoy because we don't trust our own taste anymore because when we opened about our passions we were "nerds" and now we're "yappers" (or wtv we say now). What I mean is it hasn't disappeared, it's just way more subtle.

[@SingingTroutRiver]

This is really cool. I also often to do cringe things similar to monster high cosplay dances. This articulates really well some of the thoughts I've been having myself for a while. Thanks. - Ranger

[@sloppysnozzer]

I'm a musician, and something I've noticed is that so many musicians are scared to show confidence on stage out of fear of being made fun of. There's this one guy in my music course who gives every performance his all and It's honestly so refreshing to see somebody perform without any fear of judgement. I once saw a video of this girl singing a Melanie Martinez song, she was getting really into it but instead of people praising her they were making fun of her. I feel like we live in a world where you're allowed to be passionate about something but only in a way that others have been passionate about them before (socially acceptable) even though that somewhat goes against passion's true meaning. Btw I loved this video :)) I found your channel from your last video and love your takes on things and video editing style (also the carpets are fire)

[@saral8033]

i think we should all make fun of melanie martinez fans

[@sloppysnozzer]

@@saral8033 I think that humans are complicated and that enjoying an artist that is a bad person doesn't always make you a bad person. All I had was a video of this person singing one of her songs so who am I to judge whether they're a good person or not?

[@VicvicW]

You must kill the part of yourself that cringes. Perhaps it's because I'm a Tumblr user, but I realised a few years ago that getting the fuck over yourself and ignoring those that cringe at you is the only way to be happy. Being passionately interested in something is not bad. It's not wrong. The only time fandom crosses over into being such is where it starts to be actually harmful (and no, making you cringe is not harmful). Amateurishness (I prefer this term to mediocrity) is the spice of life. I've become absolutely steeped in the folk scene in my country, which is a majority amateur scene. It's fabulous. I started performing, even, because I found out I could actually hold a tune. I've wanted to sing for years, since I was a little girl. Partially it was social pressure holding me back, but partially (and you don't touch upon this too much) it was the mistaken belief that to do something and do it publically, you have to be highly skilled. This isn't true. There's a base level of skill, sure, but you don't need to be perfect. Anyone that derides you for not being so is the kind of person who doesn't start for fear of not being perfect, and anyone like that is not someone you want to be. So go, be cringe and be merry. You'll be happier. As a sidenote, this isn't new to gen z. Millennials had that whole "ironically" phase when they were in their 20s. They grew out of it and gave us Disney adults and other such "cringe" people. We will too.

[@crybaby6845]

Being a tumblr user definitely helps. The community is so different from Tik Tok.

[@NickiRusin]

someday all social media except tumblr will violently explode

[@gunnasintern]

not to mention that being passionate and creative is part of the basis of what makes us human. the Italian Renaissance happened because of people’s love for the arts and their passionate driven ideas of creating a better life. people’s actions are reflections of themselves so it’s best to not take anything personally and continuing to express yourself. self autonomy is really important so i’m glad to see others agree with me on this

[@NevisYsbryd]

It says magnitudes more about the one who cringes than the object allegedly cringed at. Disgust comes from mental processes predicated on erroneous premises rooted in shame, which always comes down to manipulation.

[@anomalousanimates]

@@NickiRusin or become chill with cringe

[@zj9583]

Can't relate. Me and the fellas been ballin our whole lives. Even before the ball renaissance of 2012. We TOO personable in these streets. My homeboys be doing spoken word poetry about police oppression whilst making they own gumdrops on the stove like a Walter Wonka. Lames can't look down on what we do cuz we always on top.

[@zj9583]

Non-sequitur that rug is real nice.

[@mz9500]

In the clurb we all fam

[@NickiRusin]

straight fire

[@doothi]

walter wonka is crazy

[@scottbuck1572]

Bro is spiting straight flames

[@lumos2809]

I deleted tiktok and twitter years ago and it gave me a lot more time to actually do things with my life, along with severing my connection to the most hostile and annoying group of people on the internet

[@alsorickey]

This felt like a warm hug and someone telling me its cool to be uncool

[@rachg82]

As long as it's not hurting you or anyone else, then enjoying your interests and hobbies--whatever they might be--is a gift you can give to yourself in a world that is often not an easy place to exist in. In a sense, people taking the time to judge that as cringe are kinda proving the point that they need a hobby, lol. I'm so glad that despite struggling with social anxiety disorder at various points in my life, it has never extended to caring whether I seem "cool" or nerdy. I just am incapable of giving a shit, lol.

[@tinkdnuos]

As a genuine old (40+) i just want you to know that this IS cyclical, so it's unfortunate that your teen years are coming in a "jaded" cultural phase, but WE'RE the ones who created that expectation and YOU'RE the ones making it cool to be fun again!

[@mina-hi2of]

as a teenager rn i see it as a genuine dislike for ppl enjoying themselves. some of the hobbies i have have been literal years of honing my skill. it’s so disheartening that some ppl really think it’s cool to spread rhetoric that makes ppl like me feel ashamed abt their interests. for the longest time i wouldn’t actually talk to ppl abt my hobbies bc i was scared of being judged or i guess rejected. all of my interests are personal to me and ppl are missing that the point of a hobby is to engage with something on a deeper level. it all comes back to a lack of enjoyment and happiness for life . everyone is so busy worrying abt what “cool” thing is trending they forget to be a genuine human being. TL;DR ppl are sad so they project onto ppl enjoying themselves edit: to anyone who’s curious abt my hobbies: i can play clarinet, saxophone, ukulele guitar and bass guitar (i am a bit rusty on some of these.) i also draw, crochet and read whenever i have time. when i was smaller, i mainly was an artsy well-read kid, which ppl my age weren’t as interested in. so i was always weird and never had many friends i could to abt my interests. so it gotten better in some ways but i can still feel the mean energy from these influencers same as the kids who never talked to me. be as cringe as u want, you WILL find ur ppl eventually. just be patient. live how you want to. don’t let some invisible voice in ur head or a miserable person online tell u otherwise. ENJOY URSELF!!

[@YiolMac]

Yup, I’ve always had a bunch of hobbies and by the time i was in my 30s it was great seeing someone who made fun of me, buying a ticket to see my band which led to my local access show etc…. They made fun of me but now paid to see me be myself. We’re the ones who are going to enjoy life because we don’t try to pull people down. I’m now 40 and still collecting hobbies. I’ll never stop being “cringe”.

[@yohaAlt]

The only thing missing from this comment is you telling us about your hobby!! 😊

[@mina-hi2of]

@ i wasn’t sure if anyone would be interested! i’ve been drawing for at least ten years, i’ve been crocheting for a few and i can play a handful of instruments (guitar/bass, ukulele, clarinet, saxophone.) i was in band for 3 years but i’m mainly focusing on guitar and bass. i’ve also been reading since i was small, so when i was younger, i was pretty isolated bc i never knew anyone who’d read for fun. hence my previous comment. thank u for ur interest, it makes me happy!!

[@yohaAlt]

@@mina-hi2of woah that sounds AMAZING!! So many different instruments, so lovely! Just missing the percussions. I think it’s really cool if people share their love for music! Also reading is not dumb, doesn’t matter if you are reading fiction or social critique. Some people don’t understand just cuz it’s not their medium they must hate it. Would love to hear some of your music :)

[@OpticalJesu5]

There is such a fear of having any vulnerability these days. No one wants do do anything because god forbid they show something of themselves in an honest light that isn't behind five protective layers of irony. People are giving up individuality because of perceived embrassment they might suffer without realizing no one cares. No one. No one will make your life happy and interesting but you. Only you can make your life be great and fun and satisfying.

[@pagodrink]

I also was into Hamilton during the hype and it's the reason I'm into historical clothing history. The ironic part of the Gen Z being chill unlike millennials is that they have become like the baby boomers, ridged and judgemental. They literally have reinvented the Law of Jante ("Don't think you're special, don't think anybody cares about you")

[@coolchameleon21]

@@pagodrink i despise gen z more than boomers and that’s saying a lot

[@2008-wii-remote]

Yeahhh most Gen Z aren't chill about cringe

[@corncobbob2326]

@@coolchameleon21 I get you. I despise both but keep in mind that not all of them are like that, like it's the rude Gen Z and Boomers on tiktok/social media that disgust me.

[@redfireddragon8584]

As a gen Z I genuinely hate being part of this generation. Everyone is so judgemental about others while not even trying to see their own flaws. Like goddamn it I just want to make my cringe art and music and not have to constantly worry about other people my age judging me when they see it :/

[@corncobbob2326]

@@redfireddragon8584 I haven't been as active on tiktok for nearly 2 years and i felt like it's part of what kept my leftover sanity intact. however, i dread the day i want to clear notifications/catch up on there bc i know there's gonna be a good number of unwarranted mean replies and people to deal with.