Console Wars - Flashback - Super Nintendo Vs Sega Genesis

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you so much everyone for celebrating the big 100 with us! Glad so many of your are enjoying it! It nice to know all that effort didn't go to waste. I'm also grateful to all the amazing cameos we had! You're all wonderful people. I'm about to be a dad but I'll see you soon!!!

[@tomevil6]

Congratulations on the addition to your family! That was an amazing 100th episode!

[@tahnadana5435]

the one game that made me think, we havent innovate enough on cinematic platfromers

[@3xperiment8]

Congratulations, Dan! 🎉🎉🎉 We hope to see you soon!

[@gastervooodoooo]

I still wait Phantasy star IV vs Final Fantasy VI. WAIT.

[@TheJetJONES]

You'll be a dad? Congratulations, Dan 😁 Maybe your son, or daughter, also gonna be a SEGA gamer 😉

[@theonly1msbinny]

Again, Congratulations on not only releasing the 100th episode, but also congrats to Dan and his wife for having a baby! 💖

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@davidcurry332]

Congratulations bro

[@marplatense31]

So great seeing Greg again!

[@JEFFALITY]

Wish he reprised his role having his own Flashback

[@ulubulu_]

I spent the whole episode waiting for when we’d see him! (Just assumed he had to be in this one haha)

[@6sKi6z6]

As a Sega kid growing up, I’m happy it won episode 100. Congrats again for making it this far, guys. And good luck with your baby, Dan.

[@raptornerd4213]

I'm so glad Greg was in this at the end. I was hoping that he'd make an appearance. Great video guys. Best one yet. Congrats on 100 videos and raising a glass to 100 more.

[@robbvanderstoel7725]

No wonder you weren’t sure if you would actually finish this episode! What a huge undertaking!

[@ConsoleWars]

Yeah. Def a lot of work lol

[@mrdeatheli]

@Console Wars It was worth it, thank you!!

[@BladeBlur]

I will reiterate this as many times as needed: Congratulations for hitting that 100 episode milestone! Your tenacity and passion showed throughout and you only got better throughout the years! But more importantly, thank you for providing entertainment for me when I and others needed most in life. I go through a lot of rough patches, but when I feel bad I like to put a random console wars episode just to feel better. In fact that day we got to work together in 2016 was one of the highlights of my youtube career because I enjoyed your work so much! And of course it goes without saying that I appreciate being invited over to this episode as well! Thank you, Dan, Pat, and everyone else who ever contributed to Console Wars, and we'll see you back soon! Much love to you, Sam and the upcoming bundle of joy

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you for your excellent contribution to this episode!

[@THEONLYGORE]

Main reason the SNES version suffered is because this game was developed for the Genesis/Mega Drive then ported over :D

[@lo1bo2]

I LOVED Flashback on the Genesis, and eventually got the Sega CD version. It felt so immersive. Thanks for the entertainment, guys!

[@willjenkins4195]

John Riggs with the ol 1-up card 🤣

[@Vulpas]

"Asking all the Luke Skywalkers to milk you" I'd expect that from Pastrami not you guys 😂🤣

[@breathstealer5486]

Did not expect a complete beat down. Congrats on the 100th episode.

[@earthdragon515]

I had always heard the Genesis version was better, but I got it for my genesis after seeing a friend play it on their Super nintendo and never saw it on the SNES after that. Glad to finally see the breakdown

[@DP12321]

He kind of brushed aside the 24-second "saving feature" but that's like upgrading from a PS4 to a PS5 if you played on SNES. That long time to wait is no fun and is one of the main advantages cartridges or modern SSDs have. However a worse framerate is more detrimental. This felt like a Digital Foundry episode in the best way lol.

[@Danblukk]

I did. I have both and the Mega Drive version outshines the Snes is every department.

[@3xperiment8]

It is a Sega Genesis game.

[@spine--damaged]

Ah this one is easy! Best Flashback game goes to SEGAAA Genesis!

[@knightshifter2201]

Lol nicely done.

[@imkerrusin]

I'm glad to see Greg participating on this also. That was quite the treat. I wish him well. :) Congrats on the milestone! Keep up the good work!

[@49erfanaticfromnm30]

After 100 episodes that theme song still hits hard.

[@chrisbeach423]

I remember finding this channel like 7 years ago, and im so glad I did!! Congrats on 100 episodes!! This video also made me realize SNES DRUNK never has had a face reveal 😂

[@3xperiment8]

He's shown his face in the Bill Laimbeer Basketball review

[@micktaylor9332]

They missed a trick with SNES drunk, before he hung up the phone I wanted him to say "so guys, have a perfect rest of you're day" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rammers2802]

​@@micktaylor9332 Uh, he did? Well he said 'Have a great rest of your day', which is his usual signoff. Unless perfect is a variation I'm not aware of?

[@rammers2802]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKW5pnuCepV7gZI　here you go, one of his earliest. I guess they wanted to make it clear who he was since he usually doesn't show his face

[@micktaylor9332]

@@rammers2802 yeh you're right. I must have missed that lol. 🤣🤣

[@Giantsfanlewis]

100 episodes. Joined right around when Greg left. Glad the show continued since then. You guys are awesome

[@michaelmercury1297]

When I was young I used to always think that if there was game for SNES and Genesis the SNES version was always better. I'm starting to see that was wrong about that.

[@miahthorpatrick1013]

You guys definitely did not disappoint for the 100th episode. So many great moments! Dan, I gotta say though I love the way you say "Sega Genesis!" while in character. I never get tired of that!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@jtomally9681]

Graphics: There may be minor details that give a sight edge with both, but not much. The cutscenes are smoother on the Genesis. The cutscenes alone win it for Sega. Presentation: The placement of the text in the cutscenes and language doesn't give much of an edge. The slowness of the cutscenes on SNES does give Genesis and edge. Sound: SNES songs do sound better than the Genesis. Genesis does have more to hear, though. Genesis is still in the lead. Gameplay: Slowdown is something to expect on SNES. A long time to save on Genesis is always dreadful (if that really happens or if these guys were just making fun of it). The smoothness of the gameplay in Genesis is better overall. Genesis wins this one. Next game is ...... ? Wait, no hint this time?

[@MyRetroLife]

Finally got around to watching this completely! Such a great episode man. One of my Dad’s favorite games. Thanks for including me

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks for My Retro Bread!

[@momerion]

Congratulations guys! 100 episodes! Hope there will be a Lot more! Wish you all the best!!

[@planetTU]

"I'm Nintendo....and I'm Sega." Me: THIS IS CONSOLE WARS!!!! Love the channel guys!

[@Channeleven2345789]

This 100th is better than AVGN's 200th

[@sadman7141]

That person is so foul mouthed, I cannot watch his channel in front of my kids

[@mikeamir9979]

True dat

[@fireteardrops]

The amount of detail you guys put into every single episode is astonishing.

[@execation]

How many people have said 'WHAT? THAT'S IT! ARE WE DOING THIS?!' and then waited patiently for Pat's response? WELL DONE DAN AND PAT! And CONGRATS DAN on the new Console Warrior! Love this channel. You guys are so fun and goofy! 🖤

[@MarleneAngel09]

The 100th episode was too good! Loved seeing all the familiar faces especially Greg! Congratulations, you guys and thank you for so many great memories 😊 Oh and congratulations, Dan!!! You and Sam are gonna be great parents 🩷💙🩷💙

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@timothylewis2527]

This video should have gone like this: Dan: "Flashback was such a great game on the Sega Genesis." Pat: " *silence* "

[@Sohappytoshowus]

one of the very best game of the early nineties for the 100th Episode! Can't miss. I actually played it on Amiga 500 back in the time.

[@JohnRiggs]

congrats on 100!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you for that excellent cameo!

[@marcelo20xxxx]

Love the cooperation between fellow youtubers, congratulations on the 100th episode...

[@colos3284]

O, yeah. That was MASTERPIECE episode! Thank you for such good work for all this years! Wow-wow. I hope that next episode after this will be about the long-awaited comparison !!! Maybe between Phantasy Star 4 vs Final Fantasy VI? P.S. I really hope that at least someday this comparison will come out...

[@gastervooodoooo]

Absolutely agree! It's been a more than 8 years waiting...

[@voxtek]

It's going to really suck not having another episode for some time, but Im happy for you Dan. Be sure to break them in right and start them on retro games!

[@thebigpicture4372]

I just realized I always look forward to and watch these but I don't think I click like usually so I'm gonna go back through and watch them all and make sure i hit like

[@DGFTardin]

Episode 101 will be "The absolute nothingness". Talk about a deep game (better on TG16 though)

[@JMFSpike]

Wow, major cameo overload in this one! Always great to see the OG co-host Greg too. I would love to see him come back as co-host for a nostalgic one-off episode. I've heard a few people claim that the SNES is not actually that much slower then the Genesis. The argument is apparently that the CPU was just very different and developers didn't know how to get the most out of it. I really have to question that though, because every time games are compared the SNES version is significantly slower. You can't tell me that not a single developer knew how to get top speed out of the SNES. Even brawlers released later in the SNES' life could only handle 3 enemies on screen without slowdown. Genesis brawlers could have up to 6 or 7 enemies on screen without slowdown.

[@RitzLazyArtist]

It needs an SA-1 patch with a help from Vitor Vilela

[@Avalon64]

Quite the flashback...thank you guys for being such an awesome and interesting channel to stay tuned with...since you guys made it to 100 I'll admit something to you, there are only 2 channels talking about retro video games I still regularly watch and I mean EVERYTIME there's a new episode...everyone else is a from time to time thing (you ironically featured alot of them as your cameo guests lol)...but they are the AVGN...and you guys at Console Wars...I am proud to admit that since the first episode I watched (it wasn't Aladdin your ACTUAL first episode) no I recall it was the Animaniacs one...I still crack up when I remeber "or you might be beaten by Royalty!" Anyway enjoy the break you guys have earned it...and I hope fatherhood treats you well, Dan...I only have one friend who is a father, he tells about the experience all the time, the goods and bads but its something he'd never trade for anything in the world...well I rambled enough, peace until we see you guys again!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@hopscotch916]

Nice throwback to episode 99. Congrats in your 100th episode!!!

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

Congrats! Greetings from Finland. You are like real friends to me that I never had in my immediate, physical environment.

[@Bubbabyte99]

Happy 100th episode guys! You guys are one of the most undersubbed and underrated channels on KZbin! Seriously, I've always thought that you guys deserve WAY more subscribers than you currently have, and I still think that. Hopefully more people will realize what a quality channel you guys have eventually and you'll earn the subs that you guys have always deserved! Here's to 100 more episodes!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@nastyvandal]

Long live Console Wars! Thanks Dan, Pat, Greg and everyone. Salute!

[@The64Whore]

First minute and already feeling the celebration vibes with a slight tear in my eye. Congrats on 100 amazing videos and beyond!

[@branscombe_]

my parents got me this game on layaway, 10$ a week for like 2 months and i played for months and could never beat the final level i cannot wait to watch this ❤️

[@thingsiplay]

I like how they always have the game in their hands what they randomly talk about. Real gamers!

[@danbauer3669]

Uh-oh! I hope there isn't any baby making in this video..... Are we doing this?!?!? Oh, and conglaturation, Dan! (for the new mouth to feed) And conglaturation to both of you fellas for 100 babies made!

[@joecrackin3783]

I prefer the genesis for the majority of cross platform games. Something about it that I love so much more than the snes.

[@Dac_vak]

Just discovered this channel thanks to Game Sack. I’m an instant fan!

[@ConsoleWars]

Awesome. Welcome to the channel

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Given the recent news about the upcoming baby, "Who pooped in these pants?" could very well be the final line spoken on Console Wars. You know what? I wouldn't have it any other way!

[@darkandarkson]

Sega CD has a full music soundtrack that is great. Definitely THE way to play it on console.

[@HWJASURY]

Once the calls started I was just waiting for Greg to show up.

[@keeper7keys2003]

Congratulations! 💯 The ending was amazing! 😱 I'm subscribed to the most of the channels at the end!😜

[@timothylewis2527]

Congrats on 100 episodes but more importantly congrats on the new baby!!!

[@Crazy_Borg]

Missed one form of the censorship: The reason the guards and the contestors in the Death/Cyber Tower level on SNES wore helmets was censorship, too. To make them look less like humans. All the other ports are uncensored. Jaguar has the smoothest framerate, but only the MS-DOS port has extended cinematics.

[@ConsoleWars]

Oh interesting

[@roylam3329]

Man! I know I've been heaping praise on your Episodes over and over, but this has got to be your best one yet! I'd even go as far as to say it's your magnum opus! Definitely a worthy way to celebrate hitting that 100th Episode Milestone!!! Coverage of the Game itself was great! Like I said in the comments of the previous Episode, Flashback is one of the Games I've been looking forward to the most. It's one of those games I've wanted to play through, or at least watch a full playthrough of for ages, but I never got around to doing either. I did watch a playthrough of the Flashback demo for PC, covering the entire 1st Level. Thanks for showing off what Flashback has to offer in such great detail! I guess you could say that the Plot, with all the Sketches was the real star of today's Episode, rather than the Game itself. Oh boy! You've really outdone yourselves in the Plot and Sketches department! I guess I was expecting you to put in everything you got for Plot and Sketches since you're celebrating 100 Episodes, but man, this Episode has got to have the best Plot and Sketches for this Show ever! When I saw there were still about 10 minutes left when you finished the Review, I just knew you had something amazing and epic coming up. You did not disappoint there! Loved the callbacks, which certainly made me feel glad I'd seen every single Episode of Console Wars from beginning to end! Oh, and I still love the ways you find to reuse characters and costumes from past Episodes! Seeing Earthworm Jim on this Show never gets old! I also loved the Guest Appearances at the end, even though I'm not familiar with most of the Guests. I guess I liked SnesDrunk's cameo best, since he's the Guest whose stuff I've seen the most of! Oh, and Greg's cameo was great too! Oh, and that ending! Gosh, that was an excellent way to end your 100th Episode! I did see your video giving us the news of the new baby, so I think this Episode's ending was a fine way to prepare us for should be a long wait for the next Episode! Don't worry, I'm sure it'll be worth it. Phew! That's got to be my longest Comment I've posted here ever! One of my longest, at least! However, it sure felt worth the effort thinking it up and typing it out for this Episode! CONGRATULATIONS ON 100 EPISODES!!!!!!!! Here's to many more!!!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you so much! I read it all. I really appreciate the kind words. This episode was a lot of work so its nice when that's recognized.

[@VahanNisanian]

ROTFL the ending. Nobody would help you hide from the FBI.

[@SpacedCobraIII]

The red shirt on the SNES version allows the main character to double as Jack Slater. Checkmate.

[@ConsoleWars]

Damn youre right!

[@leonardomollendorff1838]

Great job, guys! Congrats on the 100th episode!

[@TokuHeroesUnite93]

Congrats on 100 episodes guys!

[@mendez704]

I was expecting this...both your 100 episode and one about Flashback...one of my favorite games ever! Congratulations for your excellent channel!

[@remingtonA123]

I miss Greg a lot but the kinda new guy lol has really improved since he started and I’ve grown like him as much as Greg

[@raycerx87]

"THIS IS CONSOLE WAAAAAAARRRSSS" will never get old.

[@thegreatshamalamadingdong9788]

Well since the makers of flashback said the mega drive version is the best I think this will be an easy win for sega. Loved this game when it first came out and still play it to this day 😊

[@euphoriaentertainmentcompa2605]

As a former Nontendo fan boy, this statement would have hurt my feelings 🤣

[@3xperiment8]

@@euphoriaentertainmentcompa2605 Are u a Sega fanboy now? 😆 Flashback was a game made for Genesis hardware and after converted to Snes, so It was expected

[@euphoriaentertainmentcompa2605]

​​@@3xperiment8 90's me is a die hard Nontendo fan boy that finally gave 90's Sega the respect they commanded with their later Genesis titles like Shinobi 3, Phantasy Star 4 and whatnot. This was arguably one of the best and most intense generations of gaming! I ended up loving them both equally! ❤ Nontendo only gained an edge in the music/sound department.

[@3xperiment8]

@@euphoriaentertainmentcompa2605 Nah. Nintendo had the edge in sound, graphics and gameplay. Only thing Genesis had the edge was in a bigger amount of arcade titles.

[@robsmall6466]

​@@3xperiment8 For every SNES title that had great graphics and gameplay you could find a Megadrive equivalent. Sound is subjective ( SOR 2 for example has a legendary soundtrack ). Never have two consoles been so equally matched. Proper glory days and the plug and play nature is how things should be with a console

[@MrEmeryHall]

Love your show! Congratulations on episode 100!!

[@MrStrikecentral]

The music in Flashback is some of the best of all 16 bit gaming. I agree with all of the points listed here.

[@alhanzar]

4:40 - Small addition: Flashback also was released for the XBox One in the same year (2018).

[@NOTLeavingLV]

Whoa. I went to jump past the skit and there was almost no skit. I appreciate this. I know y’all try real hard but I told you like a year ago that I almost guarantee you you’re missing a lot of subs not getting to the comparison faster. Get the skits in between the comparisons, great work as always.

[@MrMarrekkk]

You are what we need not sure whether we deserve-thank you for all your hard work, in a way I’m glad I’ve only found your channel in 2022 so instead of waiting long for every new episode I can bing-watch all the old ones. It’s The Console War!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you so much!

[@govir19]

Congratulations on 100th Console wars episodes and very good chapter. What a great game the flashback is for both consoles. Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷 and

[@Alianger]

Here's to a 100 more! Obviously you made the correct assessment on Flashback. I think maybe the MCD version with the console cutscenes would be the optimal version.

[@jeffgoodnough9704]

Man, 100 episodes. Thank you for so many good times... the writing was on point for this one; I enjoyed the choice of Flashback for the retrospective episode, and you did the usual amazing(ly campy) job of tying the plot together. It was good to see Greg, too. He looks healthy, and I hope he's in a great place in life. Whether there are more Console Wars to come or this is a farewell to arms, I wish you guys all the best.

[@keithfta789]

Congrats on 100!

[@vicchopin]

One of the best episodes to date. Congrats and heres to another 100 more!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@garou119]

Congratulations for 100 episodes! Here's looking at another 100, 1000, 100 000 episodes!

[@TBONE_2004]

Love the Seinfeld reference! Best series finale ever! _...And then, they all went to jail! The end!_

[@ConsoleWars]

And I've been rewatching Seinfeld because of that scene

[@TBONE_2004]

@@ConsoleWars I need to rewatch Seinfeld myself. When I was working at a casino, they were playing Seinfeld almost every night because they had it tuned to TBS. So I must've watched nearly the entire series.

[@mikereyes2488]

Congrats on newborn Dan! And Congrats on the 100th. Awesome seeing channel grow throught the years and I love how you guys have had same skits and effects style for years, great stuff as always 👍

[@Mails013]

What can you expect. The Mega Drive was far ahead of it's time and despite being older than the SNES it was actually superior if you knew how to program it. The Blast Processing that many claimed it to have is actually real and it refers to the much faster CPU which made it's games playable and also helped the console produce better 3d graphics and 3d characters in 2d games.

[@DanVzare]

It was also much easier to program for.

[@Mails013]

@@DanVzare That is true. Even to this day there are 10 times more indie Mega Drive homebrews than Snes

[@buzzy-ears]

The episode that gave us a glance at SNES Drunk 😱

[@kevcalled368]

Kudos! Great episode - has been awesome watching the show throughout these 100 episodes!

[@romaindanze1512]

Hi guys! Really warms my little French heart that you choose a Delphine Software's game for your 100th episode, moreover one I spent hours on MS DOS. Keep the good vids flowing, but Dan don't forget to spend some good time with you upcomming baby!

[@mjaa86]

Super!!!! I watch all your videos, using an automatic audio translator, Yandex browser, with greetings from Russia, you are the best!) And that you don’t have ads, a separate huge respect!!)

[@romefox]

This channel aged like fine wine, the quality and entertainment just keep coming and every episode is better than the last. Heres to another 100 episodes, when the channel will have the millions of subs it deserves.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@Arcane_Digital]

Your intro, the song and “THIS IS CONSOLE WARS!” is friggin iconic.

[@michaelhendrickson7967]

Congrats on two counts.....100 hundred episodes and one baby on the way

[@Unquestionable]

That was an amazing episode! Love all the fan service and cameos, definitely put a big smile on my face. And the ending absolutely nailed it for sure. Here's hoping to another 100 episodes.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@ItsAaronsaccount05]

Congrats on the 100th video, I'm back

[@ConsoleWars]

Welcome back!

[@ClockworkBard]

I've been subbed since the Battletoads & Double Dragon episode. Almost 8 years. And it's been an amazing ride the whole way. Thank you for all the awesome!

[@thereptyler]

Congrats on the 100th episode! Loved seeing Greg again. What about a Spider-Man episode where Greg and Pat interact and do the pointing meme. 😂

[@robertdanker6193]

Congratulations on the 100th episode!! Love all the cameos!! Great video overall!!👍👍👍

[@gershonvillamor4490]

Blast processing is indeed not just a marketing ploy.

[@EuSouRCS]

Congratulations to make one hundred wars with so much love and creativity! I love you!

[@MrBoogiemoney]

Discovered this show last year during a really tough time. Here's to 100 episodes and 100 more. THIS IS CONSOLE WARS!!!!!!!;;

[@ConsoleWars]

Glad you found us. I hope we helped

[@mrbigjonstud]

congrats on 100 eps dudes. I've happy to say I've been a subscriber for a long while and seen all of them :) , hope to see more after your paternity vacation.

[@brianflounderfrommathclass5969]

Happy 100th! 🥳🥳🥳

[@HollyGameShow]

Loved the cameos, Congratz.

[@M567dk]

Thank you for 100 episodes of this series. It is great to see the difference between the two consoles when it comes to talking about the same game. Best of luck to you both on future consoles wars games.

[@Soberliving]

I don’t know what kind of ancient Japanese medicine you guys are on, but you guys are ageing amazingly, you look the same as you did eight years ago! Rock on guys great episode

[@e.e.-tv1683]

Flashback had the best marketing team I have every seen. Every video game magazine had an ad for this game for at least four to five months.

[@ConsoleWars]

I remember that

[@wantspizzadaily1316]

James avgn didn't want to make an appearance? 😢 John Riggs tho always has the best cameos!

[@Waifu4Life]

Congrats on 100 Episodes guys!

[@elnoel1220]

The Amiga version is best by virtue of the superb title screen music.