Console Wars - Zool - Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis

[@SomeOrangeCat]

I hope this show never goes big budget. That public access channel corniness is magic.

[@fazares]

Avgn docet

[@Kyumie]

Me neither, I have learned so much about space. They might replace that information with something else.

[@creativecatproductions]

I never understood why this show never exploded past a million subs. It makes no sense to me.

[@RetroPiero]

I mean if you really want an answer, retro gaming isn't that big, media wise. A show like AVGN got over a million subs due to constantly popping out retro content since 2007.

[@Vulpas]

KZbin's algorithm is a fickle mistress.

[@InternetTAB]

I found out about console wars from Mr Metokur casually dropping their channel name on a livestream a couple of years ago. how I never knew about them before that is beyond me. Same with Gamesack. Algorithm fail

[@creativecatproductions]

@@InternetTAB if only you knew about Creative Cat Productions! 😝

[@Denny-Thray]

If you really want an answer? Here's my review. Anecdotal, but I'm willing to bet I'm not alone. The meat and potatoes of each video, which is the comparison, is awesome. You can tell that these games are well researched and that the team knows what makes a good game. The skits? I'll be honest. The skits are really, really bad. The puppets are bad. They just aren't funny. They are like, weaker than Nostalgia Critic's skits, and that's one of the things that killed that show (among other things that we won't speak of) That's not to say you can't include antics. For example, I *loved* the puking scene in the Contra comparison, years ago. That was pure gold. But the several minutes of skits before and after? Eeeeh, I usually just skip those. Without them, and simply focusing on the comparison itself (you don't need a comedic intro. "I'm Nintendo, and I'm Sega, and this time around we are discussing Zool,") would be enough. It's nothing personal. Most people who try to be funny fail at it. Let the humor come naturally while discussing the game. :)

[@violentkim]

The psycho laugh of Pat is top act! And that Zool costume looks so cool, keep up the good work guys!

[@mikereyes2488]

What I love about these console wars videos is that they've generally looked the same as if they're recorded from the mid 2000s 🤘

[@JJB11]

Aahhh! Real Monsters is Next. You did an amazing job doing this episode, Dan and Pat. You guys are so awesome!

[@Avalon64]

I hope the SNES version can actually win for once if I recall, I think Genesis has been dominating recently...I think the LAST time SNES "won" was Separation Anxiety and both agreed it was more the one that sucked a little less...lol

[@baalfgames5318]

@@Avalon64 well, Sega has been on a winning streak lately, but I think that was after a Nintendo winning streak happened, so it's kind of balancing out. Also, I didn't quite get that out of the next episode hint, but it's a better guess than I've got.

[@CarecaRetrogamer]

Hey man I just read ur comment, I also think it's gonna be Ahhh! Real monsters, but u beat me to it by 6 hours... XD

[@3xperiment8]

I think Console Wars schedule videos in order in such the Wins keep balanced for both. Which is great!

[@Avalon64]

@@3xperiment8 I personally don't think so, I think they pick games based on what they are feeling and in line with what real world events are happening ie something scary for Halloween, something Christmasy for Christmas, I don't think they intentionally trying to balance wins between the two consoles and are trying to pick a winner with a fresh set of eyes if they haven't played the game...I think the FEW times they might have an obvious winner in mind like TMNT Tournament Fighters but every other time they are using their selected criteria to determine which is the better game even fi it wins by something very small

[@wintermute3658]

All the bits were absolutely top-notch, I died laughing. Great work!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@outerspaceman7534]

You died? Damn.

[@williammcdonald9832]

This show has taught me to always write down my score in games in case I need it to stop a terrorist plot.

[@Solidier1]

WTF you got Zool to do a cameo? That's f in awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great to see him doing well after all these years.

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

That Zool cameo skit was top tier 😂. Great video, guys.

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

@@darthkai8242 would've been better on the CD-i but whatevs

[@Harbluia]

It lasted way too long -_-

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

@@Harbluia it's subjective but I enjoyed the whole thing

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you kindly!

[@ConsoleWars]

@@Harbluia You get more for your money!

[@genesislives772]

Once again the snes resolution is cropped, the greatest quote in console wars episode's 😆

[@WarioSaysSo]

Fun fact: The 'Chupa Chups' brand and logo was heavily featured in the Zool series as part of their sponsorship and even featured in the opening title and the first level "Sweet World". Zool was in the middle of the 90's more or less THE mascot for the company.

[@jtomally9681]

Graphics: It is nice to not have cropping to see more, but color changing as the screen scrolls is a nice touch. There are special differences in both. Tie. Presentation: Genesis version has a slight edge with the ending sequence. Everything else is not much effort otherwise. Sega. Sound: Both systems have their own uniqness. Nothing really giving an edge. Tie. Gameplay: Same as the sound department. Tie. Sega has a slight edge for the win here, but both are excellent. Draw your own conclusion. Aahhh! Real Monsters is Next.

[@3xperiment8]

Yeah, both are great

[@Arjay82]

Zool is just the right level of C tier that he would absolutely have a Cameo 😂

[@djpegao]

More like a Z Lister 🤣🤣

[@mikekomarinski]

The Zool birthday message had me in stitches.😅🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@immitationstation3369]

8:28 You both had too much fun filming that segment 😂

[@thingsiplay]

Your sketches are so classic. xD "Obviously this is the delete b..." well done xD

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@tylercook5761]

Guys, I love your stuff. I've watched every episode at least three times. Sometimes I just leave it running while I work from home.

[@Oysterblade84]

Great episode! Great skit too! Interesting fact and a bit of fun trivia that you might not have known: The PAL release of the SEGA Mega Drive port was published by Electronic Arts and is region locked so it won't play on NTSC Genesis systems and I think it came out first just before the American Genesis release by Game Tek. Also the PAL version has a smaller hud on the bottom making the play area slightly larger. The SEGA port oddly misspells Krisalis as ''Krysalis'' for some reason and doesn't credit Matt Furniss for the music and audio conversion, something he rightfully complained about in an internet forum about which games he actually got credited for years later.

[@ConsoleWars]

I did not know that

[@Marquise_Montford]

@@ConsoleWars Can Mario and Sonic play they're Consoles in a Next Episode?

[@alejandrameneses3026]

@@alelauguz Gracias!

[@GamerFunOriginallyAarush]

That was an amazing episode! I’m glad Sega won again! I know I love SNES but Sega really needs more love! Next episode should be good! The hint is very interesting, by the way!

[@metalninjajesus1580]

It's amusing that Zool seems to be best remembered for it's cancelled Wii game that resulted in a bunch palette swap bargain priced games that often get reviewed by by youtubers looking for bad games. It was probably best that the Wii game didn't happen :P

[@Saxdude26]

ReDimensioned absolutely did what the NinjaBreadMan remake never could, so I'm in agreement.

[@VergilHiltsLT]

Best game comparison channel on KZbin, period!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you

[@jordans4827]

9:00 That laugh is creepy, man. You could be the next (V.O.) Joker. Mark Hamill... eat your heart out.

[@DecayNJ]

Check out our Batman Forever episode, if you haven't. I don't think I have a good Joker moment, but I can also do a hell of a Conroy. Also, thank you for picking up on the influence!

[@jordans4827]

@@DecayNJ Awesome! Will check out the Batman Forever episode.

[@ItsAaronsaccount05]

Yet Another Great Episode, Console Wars (Pat and Dan)

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@The64Whore]

That time has come to watch a new console wars and dive back in and rewatch random old episodes! Always good to see you guys! Keep it up!

[@MelRetro]

*The world needs to see more adventures of Doctor Pepper* 😄

[@kitsunemetal]

Right when gameplay was compared it was the nail in the coffin for zool on the SNES

[@Saxdude26]

Not even the backflip could save him.

[@3xperiment8]

The amiga original is at the Snes speed. It is more faithful to the the original.

[@fredh9808]

Great video, dudes! Your channel is one of my all time favorites

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@euleausberlin]

That intro song always gets me hyped, never get rid of it! :DDD

[@ConsoleWars]

We never will

[@euleausberlin]

@@ConsoleWars ❤

[@182punkbunny]

DUDE RGT85 just gave you a shout out on his las video!!! That’s awesome

[@dhi1145]

Please keep making these. Even when you run out of SNES and Genesis multiplats. Just find similar games and compare them. This show rules.

[@devindeel5830]

The skits are going off the rails more and more and I’m here for it. 😂

[@evana2261]

LOOL I love how you guys tried to explain what zool was. I never thought about that.

[@FlyingDuckMan360]

I'm guessing the next episode (specifically for this Halloween season) will be Aaahh! Real Monsters. I wonder if that game will be part of a "which game's worse?" episode.

[@Gatorade69]

Was it a bad game ? I had it as a kid..... On the Sega Genesis. I remember it having some problems but I didn't hate it. It wasn't as bad as some other games.

[@3xperiment8]

@@Gatorade69 "I had It as a kid... On the Sega Genesis." Sure, but was much better on the Super Nintendo.

[@Gatorade69]

@@3xperiment8 What !? Are we doing this !?

[@cuccooverlord9812]

Room looks more lit than usual. Great video!!!

[@ConsoleWars]

It got painted

[@That1PissedOffBoomer]

Great and hilarious ep as always guys.

[@camerongregg2738]

Great Episode! Keep up the good work! I’ve got a few suggestions: The Incredible Hulk Dragon ball Z ( super famicom vs Sega megadrive) Shaq Fu The Terminator The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs Crusader of Centy Super Mario World vs Sonic 3 & Knuckles

[@stewydoo]

There is no Dana, only Zool!

[@EpicLebaneseNerd]

i can't stress enough how good those ''facts'' we get each ep are. also can't stress enough how good these 2 guys act in those situations where they put themselves in the most comical of random situations. also, is it just me, or the snes version has no CHUPA CHUPS logo in it ? nintendo hates that brand ? i nevever liked this game, played the DOS version that for some reason it was left out from the ports at the start, then the AMIGA CD 32 version, and i must admit, never saw the appeal. as always, amazing ep, so much effort put in it, and just a fun time, keep it up guys, from ur biggest fan.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks for the kind words as usual!

[@slamjackson2137]

That laugh at the end of the score skit hahahaha

[@nelots5989]

Watching your videos is always so fun :D

[@ryzmaker11]

While I do agree on the outcome, personal rundown would go like this: - graphics: Sega (great colors and unique effects in each version but the mega drive's higher resolution provides crisper visuals and better aspect ratio) - presentation: Sega (for every reasons you said) - sound: Nintendo (both versions have good soundtracks but the extra SFX for the enemies and such on SNES are a nice touch) - gameplay: Sega (for every reasons you said + the wider FOV on sega thanx to the higher resolution) Winners = Sega

[@photoc]

I can't get enough of this channel. The skits have me laughing so damn hard. Been here for a few years and never get tired of it. Thank you guys!

[@ConsoleWars]

Glad you still enjoy it!

[@MyRetroLife]

Great episode! Only played the sequel on Jaguar actually. Loved it. The Sega Genesis music sounds so much more "Hi-Fi" and better here.

[@ConsoleWars]

I def wanna give the sequel a shot

[@judgegroovyman]

9:02 epic laugh Pat! Totally unhinged. Nice work!

[@Brzo1983]

OK Now please WOLFCHILD, ANOTHER WORLD and FLASHBACK.

[@ConsoleWars]

on the list

[@Brzo1983]

@@ConsoleWars Or True Lies :)

[@3xperiment8]

We all know who's gonna win though. Those are amiga Ports.

[@mr.tremolomeasure9290]

I have only one objection to Zool's speed. The american version of Zool for sega genesis goes (in my opinion) too fast, so much so that at times it is uncontrollable. the European version of Zool for megadrive has the right speed, neither too fast nor too slow, its very comfortable to play this version because the control is simply good. the SNES version of Zool is kinda fast, but it is very slow compared to the two sega ports. in case you are wondering, the european version is the original port, the american version was modified to make zool go faster, you know, Sonic influence.

[@Saxdude26]

Agreed. MegaDriver version matches the speed to the SNES version. But even then, I kinda agree with the points made in the video. It's close, even though I love the SNES version.

[@mr.tremolomeasure9290]

@@Saxdude26 it's possible that it's a placebo effect, I feel that the megadrive version is slightly faster than SNES 🤏 still, both versions, megadrive and SNES are enjoyable. the american version of Zool is simply too fast that it is almost uncontrollable.

[@nimaiiikun]

if we put a green screen on zoom, would his arms disappear lol? Also as an astronomy nerd, I always appreciate Pat's comments right before he starts the analysis

[@Gatorade69]

As an alcoholic I also appreciate his space alcohol comments. Maybe there's a giant cloud of heroin in space....

[@brendanlafferty9814]

Another great video guys! Can’t wait for the next one!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@j-lgroen1239]

So happy with the latest episode!

[@ConsoleWars]

I'm happy you're happy

[@Ryo]

New episode let's go! I'm gonna play whatever version wins !

[@joseluki]

The lower resolution in the SNES version is very noticeable in this game.

[@louyork8379]

Good god, this was very very funny. One of the best videos yet. I laughed audibly several times. “Don’t ask about Eric” killed me. 😂😂 Good job, fellers

[@ConsoleWars]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@louyork8379]

@@ConsoleWars it was sooooooo good!!

[@alexiscardoso778]

Thank you for all you guys do!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks for watching!

[@yousefslimani99]

I'm still waiting for Pacman 2 the new adventures!!

[@wrongnote85]

It really baffles me how this channel doesn't have more subscribers.

[@KaskelotenZebbe]

Great episode! Is there an online list with the current standings?

[@mikekomarinski]

3:21 for a moment there, I thought my laptop crashed.😆

[@OnionLancer]

I'm just waiting for Dr. Pepper to confront his arch nemesis, Mr. Pibb, in a high stakes high score challenge.

[@CarecaRetrogamer]

Hey, Dan and Pat! I missed the premiere, but I watched the episode now... nice one!!! Hey, is the next episode "Ahhh! Real Monsters"? lol

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@adamokon85]

Nice episode again. But the situation parts you always do (code is score, lieves, etc) you should make a short movie about it. It´s really cool.

[@moescredriver5486]

It’s coming, a ball character, soon they’ll get to Ballz 3D! Thanks so much for making my dream come true eventually, love you both ❤️

[@RedBeard1284]

They do an amazing job on everything they do. I'm surprised they haven't gotten more recognition than they already have! Keep it up guys, You two keeping me laughing even when I'm having a really bad day.

[@BubbaAce]

It's bad enough we shouldn't ask about Eric, but now we shouldn't ask about Doug either! Glad the evil Pat laugh is back!! Always enjoying these videos & I stand by what I said years ago about how you're some of the best content creators ever whose content never gets stale!!!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you sir!

[@alelauguz]

17:21 You don't start from the checkpoint, you start at the beginning of the stage (and you have to collect all the bonuses again).

[@pierre-marcdaoust2337]

Great episode! For this one, Sega Zool All the way!

[@roylam3329]

Man! You just keep getting better and better! This is probably gonna be my favorite episode of 2022! Of course, there are still 2 months to go, so I can't be 100% sure. Anyway, I believe that a large part of why I love this episode so much is the choice of games. Such great and varied graphics plus exciting-looking gameplay made all the game footage a real treat to watch. I'd seen some footage of the Zool beforehand, so I got the impression that it comes across as a Sonic the Hedgehog wannabe. With that in mind, my main concern with Zool that I was hoping to get addressed is as follows: Does the fast speed of Zool A) Make playing the game feel like a classic Sonic game, possibly making it feel like a worthy Sonic-substitute. B) Make the game feel more like chore to play, like the Bubsy game that you covered in a previous episode. So glad to see that it's more like Option A! Thanks for clearing that up! Anyway, as much as I loved the actual review, the beginning and ending skits were fun too. The beginning skit was alright, but man, the ending skit was amazing! Definitely made the stuff being set up in the beginning skit worth it all! Hmmmm, Cameo.com videos. Interesting idea for a plot. Cameo.com is something I learnt of by accident. A few of the Irate Gamer episodes that Chris "Irate Gamer" Bores made after his 4-year hiatus boasted guest appearances by celebrities, including Ernie Hudson. However, these were all just videos from Cameo.com. You wouldn't happen to have gotten the idea for this episode's plot about Cameo.com videos from the Irate Gamer, would you? Just wanna get that cleared up. Anyway, thanks for another excellent episode! You're on really a roll this year! As for the next episode, judging by the "Next Episode Hint", and the fact that Halloween is coming up, I'm guessing it's gonna be "Aaahh!!! Real Monsters". Later!

[@ConsoleWars]

Glad you enjoyed the episode. The Cameo idea wasn't inspired by anything. Just something I thought of.

[@alelauguz]

The Man is dead

[@Solidier1]

Keep meaning to ask, but where do ya get ya gaming layouts? each video layout looks so cool.

[@sumerianliger]

I don't remember which episode introduced Nintendo's completely irrelevant trivia but it was a stroke of genius.

[@ConsoleWars]

They’re always fun to do

[@greenkoopa]

I see Maximum Carnage back there behind Pat

[@DW_Korell]

Zool Redimensioned is actually a lot of fun.

[@Saxdude26]

And the replay value is huge. Ended up becoming the first game I started attempting speed runs with

[@ConsoleWars]

I gotta try it

[@tonberrymasta]

I really think we need some more background into Doctor Pepper's past and motivations. I personally think being named as a young boy after a second tier soda is what led him to this life of dishonesty and violence.

[@nessdbest8708]

YES! THEY TOOK MY SUGGESTION! AAHHH! REAL MONSTERS IS NEXT!

[@jamesburchill7522]

Best lollipop add of all time.

[@ryanhutchinson4467]

New console wars video = Instant like 👍

[@manfredmaicon9793]

I remember it very well. It was the "Sonic" of Amiga 500. There were even some "urban legends" that at the end of the game he would have taken off his mask revealing the face of Sonic.

[@fazares]

i only played the amiga version..but i m glad to have learned more about this one

[@Myretrospace]

Great video as always, could you do a comparison of Flashback?

[@Trusteft]

I love your videos guys. Make my day/evening/whateverwhenIwatchthem. I like the nice detail of having "Zool" throwing two different color projectiles in the 1on1 fight. Really nice touch.

[@vanessanessa2761]

Console Wars - The Simpsons: Bart vs. the Space Mutants - NES vs Sega Master System (Console Wars Episode Title)

[@xboxclown8922]

Aaahh!!! Real Monsters I'll look forward to it.

[@enfieldjohn101]

I love the killer robot! Hilariously goofy. Maybe the best skit I've seen on one of your videos. This is one tough game. Kinda cool though.

[@104d_3rr0r_vince]

11:46 That's the Lotus music from the same company.

[@muhanc.a.9299]

Don't you love when good quality content hit your KZbin's inbox?

[@alleyday]

Yes! Here right on time !

[@derek8564]

ARE WE DOIN THIS !?

[@michaelgonzales92mg]

Zool was a favorite of mine to rent for the Genesis, always had a great weekend with it. Unfortunately, my mom never could find it for sale so I could own it so she could only rent it for me. Great job once again guys!

[@PikangsFutaba]

Without watching the video at 1st, I was sure Genesis would win in the end, great episode and good to know that I was pretty much on spot about what would end up being the categories that the Genesis ended up taking the edge before watching the episode.

[@cozmusic_dk7097]

The Sega game is the winner graphical Not cropped , sharper picture not so smudgy like Snes

[@leostrauch6398]

Excellent episode. Looking forward to Aahhh! Real Monsters.

[@3xperiment8]

Another cropped screen on Snes. It happened in all Amiga ports basically. Chuck Rock, Wolfchild, Cool Spot, Robocop 3. List goes on and on. That happened because devs would port without adjusting to Snes aspect ratio accordingly. And only (and always) happened on Amiga ports. I can't remember a single Amiga port with entire screen actually.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Robocop 3 was not an Amiga port.

[@3xperiment8]

@@SomeOrangeCat Thanks. That makes a Genesis to Snes Port. Which same phenomenon occured. Amiga and Genesis hardware were very similar. With same programming, cpu and all. That's why we saw always downgrades on these games where Genesis / Amiga were the heading versions, and then after brought to Snes. Mickey Mania, Toy Story, Flashback, etc

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@3xperiment8 About all the Genesis and Amiga had in common was the CPU. Its why so many quick and dirty ports between the two systems existed.

[@Chillywilly8818]

Love wolfchild and chuck rock 2

[@3xperiment8]

@@Chillywilly8818 Loved wolchild too! Amazing soundtrack. I finished the Snes version in 1 sit playing for the first time. Which is so rare for me. Beat the last boss with 1 health left. Didn't have to break any controllers on this one xD

[@enilenis]

Loved playing Zool on my 286 in the early 90's.

[@brichan1851]

I’m thinking… both!

[@donaldpurpturt6628]

Super Nintendo May Have Greater Graphics And A Prettier Color Palette, But You Just Can't Beat Sega's Blast Processing!!

[@BlueMageWithSoulEdge]

OH YEAH! I'm doing this! After a day of work nothing beats some good old fashion Console warring! Like Sega I used blast processing to get the video ready, and like Nintendo I delayed the viewing until everything [snacks] was just right!

[@madson-web]

Is there a score for Sega vs Nintendo from your videos?

[@megamarsonic]

6:09 “It only moves when you move.” Just like that?

[@awzimmer]

"yoooo, you got a leather jacket?" "yeah. you got the music clip used by mark felton productions?" "yeah. we good"

[@johnnyd3158]

You guys definitely need to review Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures.

[@RitzLazyArtist]

That would be a win for SNES.

[@alelauguz]

​@@RitzLazyArtistNo, a win for Sega

[@RitzLazyArtist]

@@alelauguz Music and sound effects on that version worse than SNES. The only exclusive mini-game is Pac-Jr. instead of Ms. Pac-Man, but it doesn't give the Genesis a win.

[@timothylewis2527]

I always like when it comes down to the final category. It builds suspense. I kinda wish there were five categories so that it happens more often. No idea what that could be, though.

[@pryan609]

I only played the SNES version and really hated it. May need to check out the Sega one.

[@Saxdude26]

Redimensioned comes with the MegaDrive version included, so I can highly recommend.