Control Techniques for Law Enforcement 3: How to Take a Suspect Down

How to take a combative opponent to the ground safely. Rory Van Vliet is a corrections officer who also has extensive experience in security, bouncing and loss prevention. Here's the best way to get behind someone where they can't hurt you. Check out Rory's instructional www.grappleart... on developing an impassable BJJ guard
Here's part 1 in the Standup Grappling for Law Enforcement series that we published earlier, called "How to Get Behind Someone" - • Control Techniques for...
And ere's the link to the video Rory and I did called "Law Enforcement and Security Techniques That Just Don't Work" that set off the initial firestorm - • Law Enforcement & Secu...
Good luck with your training!
Stephan

[@nolanraymond6616]

I like it how one solid video keeps turning into more. This could become a great series.

[@x-rhoden-x6477]

I've never trained in this, but on the job this move instinctively works FAR better than most of the situational armbar shit they try to teach during the academy. If I can get into that position, it's probably one of the most reliable takedowns requiring little skill and a large margin for error.

[@shadowsmirk]

This is a great series. One day I hope to be able to teach peace officers how to keep themselves and the public safe.

[@Whiskydanger]

Kind of hard to do without having any leo experience.

[@russellmiller5821]

Rory is an absolute unit

[@Ruaokaiwhare]

All very well and good if you have open space, but you'll consider an alternative method if your in a jail cell, with next to no room to move dealing with several objects.

[@RVVBJJ]

100% the environment dictates what you can use. Less room can certainly force more grappling though. I'm just teaching a few techniques in this series, there are plenty more options.

[@anotherguy5038]

John 14:21

[@Seth-mj5tj]

John 3:16 ​@@anotherguy5038

[@quinngiles7080]

When your so early you notice the typo hahaha. Great vids!

[@MrLovolovo]

with a fully loaded belt it will hurt a bit, but still works

[@PavaoVicario]

This is all pretty awesome and taught many times by the Gracies but what to do when the bully is overweight and you can't circumference his waist? I usually end up exchangeing punches and that's where the legal part of restraining kicks in. Is there any elegant solution for that? And no, I got no back up arround and these situations escalate pretty quickly as you well know. Please make a video on the subject if there is a solution @selfdefensetutorials @rvvbjj

[@bjjujitsu]

@vicario my solution for it is : from behind go down with yours hands wide open,holds his unkles and push toward with your shoulder so he falls to the ground and then move to his back

[@JordanHix]

I have found that getting a Gable grip around the near thigh works really well

[@obliqueapplications8881]

@5:23, Couple Goals

[@Whiskydanger]

Sacrifice throws are a no go. You aren’t considering the duty belt or body armor.

[@trueblue9101]

Why wouldnt this work with gear?

[@captaincannabis3321]

​@@trueblue9101Because wearing a vest is like adding an extra 6 inches to your chest circumfrance, which makes it harder to grab around people and much more awkward. With the belt you have all your equipment that you will be falling on. A lot of Officers have gotten severe back and spine injuries for falling backwards onto their gear while fighting with someone. Handcuffs in particular are notorious for causing injuries while landing. Thats why most officers will keep their cuffs off the side rather than the rear.

[@KillerAlmond]

Good. Now train with all your gear, service belt and all

[@4GetVegas]

Ur cathing left elbows

[@golden_flower343]

ther's no way you wanna find yourself on the ground while law enforcement. these technique is sportfull, doesn't suite law enforcement routine

[@thatrugbyguy]

That's not really true though. If someone starts really resisting it's very hard to get enough control to get cuffs on them until you've managed to take them down and pin them there.

[@RVVBJJ]

Good luck putting cuffs put on a fully resisting opponent when they are standing, at some point they have to go to the ground. This isn't pulling guard in a street fight, this is dominating position and control.

[@golden_flower343]

to eliminate misunderstanding: when you are on a mission you need to put a man down to put cuffs. to put cuffs you need to get to dominant position. but what i'm talking about is that you can find yourself standing, kneeling, sitting on one's back but never lying - it's the worst scenario you can get used to. don't take it personal Rory. it works nevertheless, but it's just far from optimal. it all comes from the basic position (from behind) that you use for transitioning to the ground. from that point it really has sense. and looks good in the gym) but not in the street

[@RVVBJJ]

@@golden_flower343of course nothing personal it's just discussion. "Laying on them" is a little simplistic as we are doing more than that, and even if I agreed it was "less than optimal" it's back control and so much better than many other options. We of course have to control our opponent's hands and be aware of weapon retention, the environment around us, and if this person looks like someone with their needles in their pockets, etc, but I disagree that it's control specific for sport.

[@NakedSteak]

As an active LEO I totaly agree with you. I don´t want to go down with the suspect to lying position as well. You lose awarness of your surroundings, it is much harder to disengage if you need to and if he has a buddy you are screwed... Also this technique makes it hard for your partner to help you unlike other methodes