Controversial knees to the head? | UFC 297

Coach explains how in his views the knees thrown by Arnold Allen were actually legal and how tough it is to ref for this. The rule is more complicated than people think.
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[@justinava1675]

Marc goddard fks up all the time with zero remorse. Smug look on his face like what he says is always right

[@erikjohansen7850]

I agree I don’t know why when he continually messes up guys like Joe Rogan will still say, well Marc is one of the best in the business

[@ChrisTalksMMA]

Why can’t they just get rid of this dumb rule? It causes so much confusion.

[@Cp_9900]

My conspiracy theory is that its in the interest of the commissions and the UFC to keep judging standards vague and poor, and referees bad and prone to mistakes, as it gives them much more plausible liability when it comes to fixing or influencing fights. There’s no other reason I can see why powerful multi- billion dollar organisations wouldn’t have improved these things by now.

[@cloudmaster182]

The scoring criteria are actually pretty clear if you look them up. Some fights are close tho, and I agree the UFC, probably working w certain judges or commissions, will take advantage of a close fight to select a winner and push certain fighters when possible

[@justinava1675]

I AGREE WITH YOU FIRAS.

[@alplayer3123]

Coach, Ontario still has the old grounded rule where anything besides feet is a grounded opponent. Should have been clearly stated before the fight and at any prior rules meetings.

[@CoachZahabi]

Yes and it was. But when the knees connected the hand was off the ground. You are allowed to lift and knee. It was hard to see live and I understand it's not easy to ref and catch everything. The hand was very close to the ground.

[@alplayer3123]

@@CoachZahabi Thank you Coach.

[@gcoffey223]

Thanks coach

[@chrisbaker9641]

The second time I had to let you know that takedowns are not just scored a “little “ if there is no damage or submissions they are not scored at all unless the rest of the round is completely even

[@gilbertoflores7397]

Too bad that canada was using 2003 (no not a typo) new jersey rules of mma.

[@scottc2076]

Marc Goddard is the worst ref in MMA besides Yamasaki Edit: the UFC not all of MMA

[@rasta1017]

There are thousands of refs in mma and you just happened to rank every single one of them and determined that Goddard is 2nd to last

[@razzledazzle9971]

​@@rasta1017 yes

[@lucidethos]

Canada uses an outdated version of the rules. Goddard had to do what he did, they did a poor job explaining this on broadcast

[@scottc2076]

@@rasta1017in the UFC* not all of MMA obviously.

[@scottc2076]

@@lucidethos wrong. Evloev didn’t have his hands down when Allen hit him. Allen lifted up Evloev so that his hands wouldn’t be down when the knees connected. They were all legal no matter what ruleset.

[@allenbackbone]

I believe the knees were legal and wouldn't assume what they said during the pre fight meeting, but I've heard that Canada hasn't updated their rules to have the weight bearing aspect.

[@LilSaske27]

stupid laws and allen should’ve won regardless

[@justinava1675]

If ref didnt stop that those knees were about to stop evloev

[@nicholasnj3778]

It’s a bad rule, all the knees should be legal … just like in OneFC

[@elchappo1320]

Stop backing ur boy

[@ItsRainingDonkeys]

I was rooting for movsae but those knees were totally legal

[@elpolitemexa2272]

That's exactly why he should be backing him up

[@razzledazzle9971]

Its not a matter of opinion its a matter of shit judges

[@Todo_fighting]

Allen won that fight.

[@LeBeau1]

🇱🇧

[@ivanraimi5524]

Evloev started to slow down in the third round. It seem like there should have been two more rounds

[@j8nnny]

I think Allen won Round 1 & 3

[@Naksu..]

Just accept the defeat coach. If you were coaching Movsar, you would definitely say the same thing.

[@elpolitemexa2272]

Ofc he would admit the knees are legal as well, the unified rules of MMA are very explicit for this scenario in specific

[@braedenpicek7579]

I think that knees to a grounded opponent should be legal, these wrestlers have no punishment for failing takedowns when the guy sprawls, so they can continually shoot and miss without worrying about knees to the head. The rule set is providing an advantage to wrestlers when that wouldn’t work in a real fight

[@boshirahmed]

Did grounded not mean flat on the floor? This just looks like cheating. A Thai fighters natural instinct would be knee someone who attempts a take down.