Weaponizing fitness in martial art is underrated

Coach talks about how fitness can be use as a weapon in a fight.
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[@Tom_Framnes]

💯💯💯. Fit to fight. “Fatigue makes cowards of all men”

[@YungRamo]

do you know where that quote is from?

[@franciscochavez1010]

Fitness/athletism and hand/eye coordination (in my personal experience) can get you a long way against your average citizen. It’s not everyday you will ever have to fight a trained fighter.

[@wrestlingjudoms1302]

I do freestyle wrestling and I've beaten wrestlers that were technically better than me in tournaments simply because I had better conditioning. Like my double leg was terrible but it worked every time because I was quick and explosive. It's amazing how much you can get away when you're athletic.

[@dudeman209]

Fitness and athleticism are two very different things. A lot of very fit guys have piss poor athleticism. And a lot of really athletic guys are lazy, are not fit.

[@creativeape8994]

Athletic and fitness = win

[@FerintoshFarmsPhotography]

Ya, even when I was fat I could dodge really well. So guys at the bar would give up messing with me pretty fast lol.

[@C0d0ps]

@@dudeman209 You’re basically describing bodybuilders who look great but avoid cardio. That is why bjj is so popular, you don’t need to stand on a treadmill.

[@DSVN23]

100%, the amount of times worse people than me have tapped me or out grappled me in both training and competition purely because I was gassed and they weren’t is amazing. Cardio is a serious weapon

[@Dondlo46]

Definitely agree with this, I had a first "test" fight against a very skilled guy, he beat me up for 3 rounds, but he got tired and I ended up on top. So fitness is very useful even if you suck at fighting

[@realnumerology]

I don't see why this is so hard for people to accept. Adding strength/conditioning gives you leverage. If you're a 10,000-hour martial artist, you will get a better return putting 30 minutes/day into strength & cardio than you would by spending those 30 minutes/day into more martial arts training.

[@dickpiano1802]

It happens all the time - guys with inferior technique win based on conditioning. But it is never talked about. It always gets swept under the rug.

[@badart3204]

It’s not marketable. Especially when one guy is simply more athletic because then it comes down to genetics which people really don’t like.

[@adkads27]

The person who gasses out first usually loses. Conditioning is super important.

[@johnnymism]

As soon as anyone gases out, your skills and experience disappear. Traditional martial artists can not accept this. Fight Cardio is king.

[@SherKhanMMAfitness]

Coach the weight difference between Frank and Tito was 22 lbs on fight night.

[@Need-For-Swede]

Strengthen for the sport and not the numbers. Appreciate the wisdom, Firas. Felt a ‘click’ on that one

[@SeoulMan2020]

I agree… the events of years ago were truly events… I’d look forward to them for months..

[@sinjinsmythe1571]

Maurice Smith vs Mark Coleman was the first fight about conditioning.

[@dennisbarrett6148]

Most guys growing up have experienced or at least seen the " pose ". It involves bending at the waist, putting your hands on your knees and sucking wind so bad that you wish you could breathe in through your ears as well! As a kid, it comes from playing tag or running laps at school. In a fight, the pose also included holding one hand out hoping for a repreive until the teacher came and broke it up. Most guys have not experienced that heart pounding, air sucking desperation since childhood. In a real world grown up fight, you don't want to be the first to adopt the " pose"!

[@chadelliottfahlman]

I remember when I dropped like 20lbs and was outlasting classmates and much heavier people in new gyms. Especially new guys with no skill but MASSIVE weight advantage. In those cases, all I had to do was defend/move while they gassed themselves out.

[@fdelr]

Hey coach! Lately, I've been thinking about something similar. If I want to eventually win a street fight, would it be better if I devoted this year to get bigger (in the gym) instead of my usual boxing&judo trainning? Thank you for you advice!!!!

[@jwills79]

Conditioning is one of the reasons why Floyd Mayweather could be arguably TBE!

[@Jacked_R_Us]

Floyd Mayweather is a beast even at his age he is probably fitter than so many pro boxers name an athlete that aged aswell as him

[@Gadanfer]

For the love of good do an Movsar vs Allan analysis

[@swoosh2835]

Firas, I’m wondering if you’ve ever worked with kettlebells given your love for Olympic lifting. The “common man’s” Olympic weightlifting so to speak. I’ve seen amazing translation to the BJJ mats by doing single arm kettlebell snatches or double kettlebell clean and press. Curious if you’ve dabbled in that world. Thanks!

[@eamonob84]

Yes! I have seen better results from consistently training with KBs than any other type of strength and conditioning work I’ve done. And they don’t leave me sore the way training with barbells does, so it doesn’t negatively affect my BJJ training.

[@DJ_Osiris]

I had to really reduce my lifts as I scaled up my training and prepared for camp. It's not because I didn't have energy to lift; it's because lifting sapped my energy for grappling and striking.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

The Gracie clan envisioned MMA being without time limits. They maintained that a smaller guy needs time to wear out the larger opponent. They leaned towards conditioning being a factor.

[@Mr_Sh1tcoin]

No, they leaned all in on technique.

[@tjl4688]

@@Mr_Sh1tcoin Technique first, but they did not neglect endurance. Technique comes first because as you get older you will not have your endurance. But while you have endurance, you should still use it to your advantage.

[@Mr_Sh1tcoin]

@@tjl4688 no you're completely wrong. Go and watch Helio, Relson and Rorion's message. The message is 100% technique which is 100% efficient, therefore you don't need any endurance from fitness. They truly believed that you can't lose with 100% technique sans everything else.

[@SINdaBlock411]

they were frauds who cherrypicked everything in their favor, in a real fight you don't have time to just lie around

[@Mr_Sh1tcoin]

@@SINdaBlock411 cool story bro

[@GAND3RSON]

I remember those days, chuck vs Tito at Champs with Firas, Dave, Ivan and the whole gang ❤

[@wilder17]

Any sport fitness can trump skill. Fighting even more than others because it’s 1vs1 so there’s really no where to hide when you’re tired

[@northpaul3276]

When i went first time in class of combat sambo i was able to outgrapple almost all guys who have less than 2 year experience. It was after few months of everyday farm work. I was also heavier than most of them but still.

[@donaldnewell4868]

The Severn vs Shamrock affair wasn’t a normal fight. To allow the fight to happen, the UFC had to agree to no bare knuckle punches to the head. There were some other strange conditions as well. The fighters didn’t exactly follow the rules, but they didn’t exactly fight either. It was weird.

[@tjl4688]

This is bullshit. Shamrock still had superior barehand striking knowledge as a shootfighter.

[@sonnythebigbearliston8442]

Coach would you recommend interval sprinting for cardiovascular improvement for wrestling?

[@GodsendMusic]

Yup

[@coachzoharvey5175]

Frank fought at 185 and his weight was under 200lbs for the weigh ins. Tito had to cut to 205

[@CJfunctional]

A fitness man can beat an unfit man any day. If both men have no skill. Add skill it is even worse.

[@orlandocarrillo7132]

At equal skill level, the fittest wins.

[@timm285]

For the algorithms

[@alexanderren1097]

I don’t know why so many martial artists hold the stupid idea that “weightlifting is bad!” I know I know, you’re referring to a lot more than just weightlifting. Yes, cardio is extremely important too. But the weightlifting thing is such a strong stereotype that it’s ridiculous.

[@sk8iny0]

There's this one guy at our gym, who's the same weight class as me, only he's a very serious gym-goer. He benches my triangles off of his head....

[@radiantmind8729]

I’m pretty sure boxers and wrestlers have always known conditioning wins matches. Why the hell didn’t you guys know??

[@realtruth1448]

Conditioning matters most when technique is similar, in a street fight situation conditioning is lack luster, if you can last atleast 5 minutes conditioning doesn’t mean much Average street fight is maybe 3 minutes maximum, average guy is winded within 1 minute, Although go back to warfare 1000 years ago endurance & conditioning was everything, they’d have to practice swinging a sword 1000s of times so they can go into battle and have the endurance, or to draw a bow and shoot I’d reckon if you’re preparing for a post apocalyptic world then having a good amount of endurance is reasonable, not as much as you think because typically survival will be based upon large groups and or bases, not the most physically fit group, but should be capable of running 3 miles nonstop, get into a fight, then hike another 5 miles nonstop

[@evilsmileyface90]

I've always been one of those naturally unbalanced, no natural power, slower than average, poorly coordinated souls. Honestly every sport or physical activity i undertook, I generally sucked starting out. But I would work non stop on my conditioning and take notes on everything, drill every scenario to always master the smallest details and angles, and I think that's taken me quite far in not only fighting, but other stuff in life, compared to where i started out

[@majmunovski]

Jujimufu

[@good8619]

Probably the most important factor at Heavyweight. Imagine a 6'6 athletic contender with a striking base and incredible takedown defence. No one beats that.

[@realtruth1448]

If all he has is takedown defense, he’ll eventually end up on the ground then submitted, can’t sprawl forever

[@MagickArmory]

What's your greatest ever snatch ? Random guy answers : "oh idk I would have to say Ian Gary's wife maybe " lol

[@chickenbroski99]

I recognised this early when I started sparring the only time I would start losing is when I was tired. Even experienced guys I could keep up with until my cardio was done. So I started doing 12 rounds on the bag and Im much better.

[@ahmedainte7337]

That’s what merab did against Peter yan. If he fought a technical fight yan would’ve destroyed him.

[@danawhiteisagenius8654]

If talent were equal wouldn’t it come down to fitness, if that were equal wouldn’t it just be luck?

[@johanwallman6584]

I can't find any fight between Frank Shamrock and Tito Ortiz where Shamrock wins... He got doctors stoppaged first fight then tko'd the other two. Are you sure its him that you are thinking about?

[@Ionz]

You're mixing up Frank with Ken

[@johanwallman6584]

@@Ionz oh there are several lol

[@vespaman101]

My old trainer said "Fatigue can turn anyone into a pussy"

[@justinAclark2075]

A bunch of nerds losing their shit right now. "Wait, you mean the guy who bullied me will always win unless I develop strength and speed? Oh no!" Lol

[@KWillo]

Anime like dbz, Baki and even street fighter should've taught those "victims" that already.😂

[@justinAclark2075]

@@KWillo amen

[@kingc5732]

1:50 lol UFC ppv’s were like 30 bucks max back then (little under 50 bucks if you calculate inflation) if you got 6 mates together that’s like 5 bucks each Whoever was charging you 100 bucks for a card back then was robbing you Firas 😂

[@ArteSuaveEconomist]

Tito Frank was Dark Ages. You needed direct tv or dish or something like that. The UFC was banned from cable for a while. Price might not have been prohibitive but you would need to find someone with a Dish. Big deal when allowed back on cable. It was an ad with Carmen Electra, Tito, Couture and Liddell as the stars and then the Bonnar/Griffin finale of initial Ultimate Fighter show blew the sport up.

[@Basarakn]

im 17 6'3 83kgs pretty skinny no training wasted my childhood and i have now picked up kickkboxing as my base for striking. coach do you think i can do it and make it a good organisation?

[@Khandomain]

You should focus on your skill and getting better. You'll figure out for yourself after a year or so.

[@victorarchitect8577]

I'm doing the same thing, I'm 18 years old, the question you have to ask yourself is "how?" and you're going to start finding a way to do it, nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow, maybe you and I are going to die tomorrow, maybe we'll be champions in 10 years, good luck bro.

[@Basarakn]

@@victorarchitect8577 shit that hit hard lets shake hands someday when we are at the top

[@Basarakn]

@@Khandomain i sure will!

[@OriginalPainX]

I came back from Thailand, preparing for a judo comp right now with hardcore Muay Thai conditioning, skipping 30m 2x a day, and bagwork 30-60m, Lets see how I do

[@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT]

Ask Khabib.

[@randybowman]

Frank was copying some other guy with that quote. I wanna say it was Carl Gotch, but he may have copied it too.

[@RemyBeast]

Martial artists use fitness to improve their tools and skill set. Fitness alone can potentially help you beat an untrained person that isn't fit, but not against a trained person.

[@gintseine8125]

What a unnecessary question. Take weights, and do shadowboxing, is just best commung in my mind, bag full of weights, situps jumps...

[@jasemalanjeriinternational2004]

that was shamrock last title defiance then he retired Ortiz wasn't the champion

[@tylerscott2116]

Coach, Tito actually beat Ken in all 3 fights. You've probably already realized that by the time I've commented this.

[@photonganglol2413]

How do I learn to have fight cardio while smoking weed every day? Also I don’t like running… 😂

[@jseanmullings1623]

Play a sport you like like basketball or something or jump rope

[@photonganglol2413]

@@jseanmullings1623 more of a joke but yah I do Muay Thai 3 times a week. Not a committed athlete or anything I just like it. But when we have sparring days I just get so gassed so fast. Compared to general technique training and stuff. Something about it being more “real” and I’m so gassed.

[@SINdaBlock411]

a guy like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his Prime with blue belt skills will beat any black belt ever who refuses to do bodybuilding ...

[@realtruth1448]

That’s simply not true, but I get where you’re going with this Yes fighting is essentially athleticism x technique But there’s a really big difference between a blue belt and a black belt, Arnold’s athleticism can overcome it, but it won’t be as easy as you may think

[@SINdaBlock411]

@@realtruth1448 "that is simply not true", not to defend them or anything because they're lowlives with no morale but are you calling Rener and Ryron a bunch of liars ... because that's what it sounds like to me since all I do is apply their Boyd belt system and guess what twinkletoes that's the outcome not my fault you flunked math lol

[@SINdaBlock411]

@@realtruth1448 and Arnold was 20 million times the athlete Mikey Musumeci will never be

[@realtruth1448]

@@SINdaBlock411 completely irrelevant, dude get a better life, you clearly don't have a good one.

[@SINdaBlock411]

@@realtruth1448 says the guy who spends his life hugging other guys on some mats, you're hardly in a position to judge I'd say lol

[@Pazuzu-]

It definitely can. A lot better than wasting your time doing stupid kata.

[@daniloalves1139]

I mean DDP is champ isn't he

[@bahlsdeepe868]

I hear what you are saying, coach. But I disagree. I actually think MOST guys in the UFC rely on their fitness instead of their skill. You need an emphasis on both but SKILL beats cardio IF both guys are in shape💯👊More emphasis on skill instead of fitness.

[@verrico7536]

If most guys in the UFC rely on weaponizing their fitness, its because it has been more effective then emphasizing skill. Fatigue makes everyone a bitch Good luck pulling off your high skill moves when you've got noodle arms

[@regularbob]

I agree. I think most guys in the UFC are basically cardio athletes..just look at Mike Mallot’s last performance. He is a cardio guy who relied too much on cardio and he got gassed out. The UFC needs less CROSSFIT and more skill.

[@verrico7536]

@@regularbob Bro gassed out and your approach is to have him focus on his cardio less?😂😂😂

[@bahlsdeepe868]

@@verrico7536 I agree with you..Top level boxers for instance have both skill and AMAZING fitness..And I think that is generally understood which is why I am kinda confused that Coach needed to say it out loud.

[@voreqejackson1238]

Using your fitness to your advantage is a skill in itself.

[@ho2673]

Against an untrained out of shape guy yeah

[@mirekcerny2081]

If you have to depend on 'fitness' to win, you are probably: a)engaging in a sport (ie not fighting) or b)using a lousy combat system

[@MachineGunPepe]

This is the laziest clickbait content ever. Talks about the title for maybe 30 seconds. Peak algorithm milking but yeah im blocking this from my feed.

[@KHABIB-TIME]

In 1967, while the IDF army was marching on the foothills of the occupied Palestine-West Bank, they heard a lone Palestinian voice over the hill: "One Palestinian with a slingshot is better than 10 IDF soldiers!" IDF General Avraham Yoffe laughs as he sends 10 men on the hill to capture it. There is gunfire for a minute or so, and then everything goes silent, but they hear the same faint voice: "One Palestinian is better than a hundred of yours!". Annoyed, the IDDF General sends a hundred men to capture that hill. There is intense gunfire and bombs going off for around ten minutes, and then everything goes absolutely silent again. Suddenly, that same voice yelled out again: "One Palestinian is better than a thousand of yours!" Enraged and infuriated, General Yoffe sends a thousand men, accompanied by tanks, artillery, and mortar teams, and strictly orders them not to return until the hill is captured. For around half an hour, all hell breaks loose: bombs, explosions, gunfire, shelling, and screams of death all around and every corner, and then it goes silent again. One IDDF soldier crawls back, severely wounded, brusied, and battered, and before the general could say anything, the soldier says, "Do not send more troops, General; it's a trap! There's two of them in there." >>>>>>>>

[@jimgeorgiev8105]

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[@JohnSmith-ei6sc]

All these comments are old gen x dads or even younger boomers talking about gym sparring at best.

[@KWillo]

😂😂