Controversy & Curiosity - China Open Super 1000 (Beckman's Breakdown Ep.2)

[@andyk5286]

The reason why Izzudin/Goh did not celebrate after their historic win was made known to the Malaysian press post-match. They explained that on seeing that they had won the game due to Ren XY injury, they felt that it wasn't right to celebrate that way. Many people commented why they did not concentrate their attack towards the injured Ren. Some even went as far as calling them foolish and playing with no game plan. But the truth was that they avoided attacking Ren BECAUSE of that. They felt it just wasn't the right thing to do. Well, if that's not two fine gentlemen sportsmen, then what is.

[@wilfordlie7899]

They are two respectable championship winners!

[@hunleyCFC]

Goh-Izzuddin showed us a lesson in HUMILITY (Danish players...take note) and sportsmanship in the final. They didn't deliberately target the injured Ren and didn't celebrate winning the biggest title of their careers so far. Proud of my fellow Malaysians 💪🏼🇲🇾

[@knock-knockwhosthere9933]

They didn't even complained about the physiotherapy intrusion... Respect!!!

[@prakhyatpandey5341]

Tai Tzu Ying is one of the greatest female singles players ever. One thing is clear, whether she retires now or later this year, she will have worldwide respect and revere...

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

100% 😊🙌🏻❤️

[@BlazingiZZi]

in my eyes the goh and din really is the bigger pair on that match, the fact that they didn't do a flicker serve so much (only once or twice) which is their forte at this point really speaks volume. They were too nice, like any malaysian pairs lol. Anyway i also agree that the tournament participation rules need to be abolished

[@jjl4381]

😂😂😂 they were too .nice?

[@DecRom-z8e]

​@@jjl4381jia coh 😂😂😂😂😂

[@iamkj2008]

Even though he and Ren lost I think they were the stars of the tourney, getting 9-19 against dinfei in the first round before suffering an injury. As a Malaysian ofc I hoped that dinfei would've won anyway but the Chinese pair could have easily won that

[@ardianworld777]

I completely agree with your statement about Tai Tzu Ying! She deserves a well rested life and enjoy it to the fullest; she already has such a tremendous career and next to that she already wowed the world of badminton with her insane technique. I want her to have a painfree life! She already is one of the best badminton ambassadors our sport has to offer, so I wouldn't mind if she just opens up a new chapter in her life :)

[@jackburtonstwin]

I agree that the BWF tournament participation requirements do seem very demanding and, judged by the number of players arriving at court taped-up like an extra from the Mummy, there is an argument for saying that many are turning up both below par and flirting with potential chronic injury. Tomoka Miyazaki has been helped to physically develop almost beyond recognition from just a year ago. At just 18 she is already developing the tools and attributes she will need to compete at the very highest level of women's singles. I just hope that in this rush to realise her huge potential her coaches won't exhaust her sheer enthusiasm and joy for playing out of her. She always looks so happy on court.

[@tanweng-f1p]

Love this series! And I also like your documentaries on players! Maybe you could do a documentary on LCW or any player whose story you find interesting?

[@Rtg5155]

Keep doing these please!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Not going to stop

[@rbvemulapalli]

Very nice analysis. This format keeps us (audience) updated of badminton happenings. Thank you👍

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thanks! Plenty more to come and I'll try to keep improving

[@bharathv03]

i think Tai just wants to play the WTF once more as the last tournament of her career and she's playing all these tournaments to get points to be in the top 8, but yea i agree with her current conditions its just painful to watch. also surely they can restructure the schedule for better travel no? i dont know the behind the scenes of this but for the january leg, instead of india open, if it is singapore open surely its better in terms of travel, timezones and stuff? like just group together 1 s1000, s750, s500 which are close enough together

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah I think she probably is but right now and playing how she is, will she qualify? I agree about the scheduling, this is just as important an issue as giving players autonomy in decision making. I fear there's been a mindset of quality over quantity. Hopefully now we can find that sweet spot

[@bharathv03]

there are still a couple s750s, if she is fit and playing normally she can defo make it but yea this injury seems to be haunting her this whole year since All England

[@rjwolf8873]

19:15 statement of the video imo. 100% agree. The state of top-player badminton feels kind of week in the knees right now. And I think international volleyball leagues do it right with challenges for net touches and contact faults too. Volleyball matches have an additional official that is responsible for calling stuff like this too, which could translate to a badminton service judge taking on some more responsibility.

[@andrewchong2616]

There’s also another controversial incident when izzudin played a net shot, ren xiangyu tapped the shuttle which is not even crossed the net and the umpire failed to see it and awarded a point for china. It was at 11-16 during 2nd set

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I briefly touched on that, very briefly

[@epoxone]

Thanks for pointing out those participation rules. I think this might be the single most reason for these weird performances. I also think that the number of points in each set has to be reduced. In so many torunaments its a matter of last man/woman standing, especially the singles dicipline. If conditions in the arena are bad, you often get a very long 2nd set, which the winner of the first gives away. Boring as hell.

[@hellswarrior8986]

again, amazing video, looking in the deepest corners of what happened this week and specially WHY, that what makes the content that great

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thank you, glad you liked it 🙂

[@happiness9003]

i also think that the gap btween each tour is too close hence the players didnt get enough rest, people expected the top players who were in olympics to win matches after and when they lose they mocked them saying injuries are just excuses for their lose. human hv limits, same goes to top players..i wish the badminton fans can mind their words, this is sport, be supportive to all players 🙏💪💪

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yes the scheduling is another area they need to look at

[@banielarcim461]

Amazing review, Looking forward for more Mr. Beckman!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

More to come! Glad u liked it

[@adarshminj2543]

Once Gill said, ' When TTY is at her best, no one can touch her". I think TTY just wants to enjoy playing the last few tournaments as much as she can. It's sad to think how she performed earlier this year and now with injuries she just can't.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah it is sad but she is keeping a smile on her face 😊

[@OntopoftheRN]

Either Marin can touch her, or TTY was always not at her best during ANY major tournament like the world championship or Olympics. 😂

[@adarshminj2543]

@@OntopoftheRN TTY literally humiliated Marin back in 2016-18, Marin literally cried after the Singapore open final lmao. Go check their Head to Head. Marin will never be respected as much as TTY or Asian players anyway.

[@OntopoftheRN]

@@adarshminj2543 How many world champions does Marin have, and how many does TTY have? Without mental toughness is TTY’s fatal weakness. Marin was the Queen! I’m an Asian myself.

[@shfqqxx4479]

⁠​⁠@@OntopoftheRNwdgaf, tty is the queen and has 2 working legs

[@mintybluewhale]

For the Jonatan shuttle deflection thing, even though it is a shame, I think he might have done better if he just focused on the next point rather than arguing with the umpire. I haven’t seen a decision being reversed in these situations before. Similar situation at LKY vs Anders, he argued abit then loses focus. But getting anxious for LKY becoming anxious in closing rallies is totally another thing 😂. And watching Kodai plays make me feel exhausted as well. I hopes he can develop his attacks more. Even though I wasn’t rooting for Weng, he looked unstoppable. I thought you would talk about WD final a bit. Especially ZhangSX’s total meltdown. So surprised to see that at this level. Injury with Ren was a shame as well.

[@hunleyCFC]

Just discovered this channel. Nice to have a proper, dedicated badminton channel as there are not many around. Already subscribed 🙂 Loving the content so far. Keep up the great work! 👍🏻

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thank you so much! Plenty more to come from me 😊👍🏻

[@Totoro88]

That embezzlement story deserves a separate video.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I'll start digging...

[@takihifu]

waiting for Arctic Open breakdown. love your videos

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

It's coming don't worry

[@farahhana9785]

The deflection scene of Jojo’s match; the shuttle actually looked IN 😂 Watched the replay a few times and couldnt see that it was even out. And this wasnt the only time/match that line calls were suss. 1-2 points may not be the reason of winning or loosing but these really do leave a bad aftertaste to the tournament.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah I think the deflection thing became the main focus, so people don't realise the call was given out, not even Christie. For sure, like I said these situations happen far too often and people getting angry at it is understandable. Especially as the solution seems so simple. Hopefully BWF are looking at this

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

And yeah can't deny that sour after taste

[@ipadpro8527]

Loving this series

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thanks. Plenty more to come

[@jasonxiao2456]

Shi Yu Qi is broken, physically and mentally. He needs couple months rest for sure.

[@sehwie]

Good episode Ben. Well done and informative.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Glad you enjoyed it😊🙌🏻

[@Jzpssngthru]

Ben you’ve got a busy road ahead! Series is really taking off. I'm sure the badminton community will be expecting one of these for every major tournament at least 👍🏼

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Sticking to super 500 and above. That'll keep me busy enough hahaha

[@scorpionpower2008]

Tomoka Miyazaki 🇯🇵 Future women's singles World champion 🏆❤🎉

[@nathan88274]

Great video! I'm surprised you didn't mention the Axelsen service fault which I feel like was one of many factors in his loss.

[@leonidmorozov7699]

Great comments and thoughts on China open! I personally don't agree with you on abolishing tournament participantion requirements, but rather change them a bit. BWF can spread big tournaments, so we don't have 2-3 high level tournaments in a row with no breaks. Another idea is just decrease min required number of tournaments by 1 in each category. And for many years I still complaining that at top level badminton tournaments with lots of cameras around, we don't have a review system, that doesn't require any more money or technology. Net touches, double touch, touch before going out are all can be reviewed on a big screen for all to see if we have amend the rules. TV viewers can see it, but not umpires or players - just not fair. Players should be able to request at least once per game this.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I didn't talk about the scheduling but that is most certainly an issue too. I think doing both would make great sense but I fear BWF is focusing on money. As u suggest, and I agree, it should be quality over quantity. If they keep the minimum requirements I don't think the top players need to play the super 500s (unless they want to)

[@pauldodd2120]

Agree 💯% that players should not be forced to participate in tournaments. Especially this year with the olympics, top players, particulary in women's singles are very tired and injured. The BWF athletes commission needs to take action. BTW, any more background on the retirement of He Bingjiao?

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I think the athletes commission has tried to change a lot of things but due to nature in which matters are decided, more often than not their vote doesn't really count to much. Vittinghus has spoken on this subject numerous times

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Oh,and sorry I have no further news. Maybe someone from China or someone who reads Chinese news might know more

[@yzzz9984]

not too much background about HBJ, she retired suddenly and seems to be enjoying retirement life now, attending activities like experiencing life as a firefighter, starting new sports and etc on. It 's worth mentioning both HBJ and CYF have intention to retire, but Hbj eventually did it while CYF is still not sure whether to retire

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@@yzzz9984 thanks for the update

[@itsph3nix]

Love this! Thank you Ben

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

My pleasure! 😊

[@francislim6152]

Ben, u r my most favourite badminton commentator now. Love your videos. Looking forward to more badminton contents by you.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thank you, really appreciate it

[@Ey3shi3ldtv]

What i found really weird and exausting and for this type is a perfect example just like the Japan/Korea Open. Is that you put 2 good tournaments right around the corner. I do understand to make Asian / Europe Tour to ease players flights and travels. But for either Health of athlete etc, you cant be at 100 % . For this example Lei/Axelsen played the final and had to play 30 h after the final after doing a complete week of high level of badminton. Here it was even more difficult since for example viktor had his flight canceled/rescheduled/canceled. It cause stress and you arrive late at night at hotel and the event organizers instead of putting them late evening like ( they should have done) they put them in afternoon. You end up with athlete who are not at 100% + are tired from travel stress. And ends up with a lot of WO or very bad performance. Japan/korean open was the same a lot of surprising results etc. I remember when Denmark/French open was held in same time, We as french were so happy to see LCW LD and other big names coming to the french open , ending up seeing them had to WO a lot of times because of exausting.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yes 100% agree, I was going to mention the scheduling as an issue too. Putting a Super 100 at the end of a 3 week block of 500s and 750s doesn't make sense. There certainly needs to be a lot of discussions around all of this. We shouldn't just have tournaments for tournaments sake. Quality over quantity (for the most part)

[@Ey3shi3ldtv]

​@@BenBeckmanBadminton BWF has a lot to adapt to because the way people consume sports nowadays has changed. Esports, in just a decade, have produced better shows than 98% of traditional sports. The rule that requires players to show up to a certain number of tournaments, or face fines, is problematic. It forces athletes into a tough spot-they either play half-heartedly, risking their reputation and disappointing their fans (even if they don't want to), or, for those who can’t afford the fines, they have to fake an injury to avoid competing. Additionally, badminton faces much more competition from other sports now. What I find amusing is that there are plenty of channels posting content taken from official matches. While this isn’t great from a copyright perspective, I personally don’t mind. But athlete wich are playing cant use this content to promote themselves... In France, thanks to major streamers and content creators, table tennis saw a 200% increase in license applications and a 500% jump in sales of table tennis equipment, largely due to the exposure the Lebrun brothers got on TV and streams. The Popov brothers in badminton are doing something similar, but they aren’t getting nearly the same recognition-even though there are 220,000 registered badminton athletes in France. When I watch some video(more like ig stories ) of Top 12 club matches in France, the stadiums are empty, with no audience and no streams available (except for semi-finals). This is shocking because it’s the TOP 12! I’ve been playing for 15 years, and clubs around my city are packed, with 100-person waiting lists. You have to sign up for tournaments 2-3 months in advance to get a spot. My club opened registrations for a 300-player tournament, and it filled up in just 2 hours. So, while there’s clearly a large number of people playing, there’s little effort to grow badminton’s audience. Regarding major tournaments, the scheduling is brutal. Winners get only one day of rest (not counting travel time), which is far from enough to recover for two consecutive high-level tournaments. You see players like An Se-young covered in bandages-soon, she’ll look like a mummy at this rate-despite being incredibly successful.

[@zzcc7534]

Nice video. But I was also hoping that you would comment a little on empire's calling Viktor Axelsen's service delay.

[@vancouverbriankim]

awesome show thanks for great reviews. .👍👍

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it 🙂

[@kage7772]

i think it's not about whether someone else would show sportsmanlike behaviour, at the end of the day, that is something you need to personally choose as a matter of personal conviction

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

✌🏻

[@pauldodd2120]

You are probably correct about the Japanese players wearing the club kit, but not about the coaching. I've seen coaches in previous years in Japan vs Japan matches, also if I remember correctly, they have had national kit but with club sponsors in some cases. Anyway, great seies, rsally enjoyed it 😊. Re shuttle touching racket in the match with Jonathan Christie; if the umpire doesn't see it, the service judge can signal that it did touch; if nobody notices then that's too bad. I'm not in favor of having video review, I think that would interrupt the game more, and be more unfair to players not on TV courts. Challenges can be used in an unfair way to break the opponents concentration. Many years ago I was playing mixed and at match point for us the opponents hit a smash long. They insisted that I had touched the shuttle (no umpires). It hadn't - was at least 6 inches away. They then argued that they had heard it, but this would have been impossible with 11 other games in the same hall. After a long discussion, we agreed to play a let, mainly because my partner was in the same club as the opponents, something I'll never do again. Anyway in the end we lost.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

The coach vs coach situation you've seen before, was that 2 A team players playing each other? If not then this would explain that. It could also be a similar situation to this China Open. I get your points about VAR, it's why I said on the surface it seems a simple solution but it requires far more discussion for the valid point you make. The same would go for a few other issues too

[@wilfordlie7899]

"Many years ago I was playing mixed and at match point for us the opponents hit a smash long. They insisted that I had touched the shuttle (no umpires). It hadn't - was at least 6 inches away..." -- It is funny that a situation almost exactly the same as this also happened to me about one year ago. After denying three time, I gave up arguing but the girl seemed to resent this so much that she didn't like to play games with me any more. I always feel sad about this.

[@pauldodd2120]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton I think the Japanese coaches are more about the company team coaches from say Daihatsu or NTT East, who may also be national team coaches present at the event. I don't recall a match where only one Japanese player had a coach, so I guess there's a gentleman's agreement.

[@KPhun]

Badminton players are at the mercy of their national associations which are often corrupt. Players are strictly regulated and controlled. They don’t have the freedom like pro tennis players do. And thats really a shame.

[@muiawat]

19:15 yes 🙌 and players will show up and retire , which we have seen many times

[@adrenaline2002]

The BWF does seem to be either in denial or dare I say it, rather amateurish when it comes to dealing with mistakes. It's not uncommon to see bad umpiring but with no action taken by BWF to rectify the issues. VAR can definitely be useful to reduce such issues, but only if utilized in the correct manner. By allowing umpires to just get off so easily despite their mistakes, BWF is actually holding badminton back from progressing as a sport. It's actually quite embarrassing for BWF that as a professional body, it does poorly in overall governance.

[@alexisbodet5055]

i agree

[@nahtesab]

The umpire should review footage and also discuss with the service judge in these sort of situations with Christie and WHY.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

If the umpire is confident in his call/decision then he/she won't. I don't think he asked the service judge this time. As far as reviews go, that isn't allowed. Maybe in the future...

[@keegansimyh]

One thing I'm wondering is, the olympics and paralympics are over now - isn't it about time they started talking about the spin serve again?

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Good point...maybe they're hoping players have forgotten about it haha

[@thefallenarm589]

For the controversy part, not sure a vittinghus is a good reference, far from me to make generalities, but danish players are known to not be very fair. Some would even say they tend to cheat. About Weng, I think he was also robbed during a match ; the referee said his brush was on the wrong side of the net and... Something must be made ; there is a hawk eye but no video ; hopefully it will come. In the meantime, I don't understand why they just don't replay the point when there is a doubt ; it's not fair, but still a better solution than giving a point to the wrong player. And that's what is done in amateur badminton. good talk as always, thank you Ben !

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I'm not sure labelling Danish players as cheaters is all that fair. How many times have you seen this sort of situation happen, and the player it benefits admits to it? It doesn't happen often, so I feel it's a little unfair to paint the Danes with that brush. Secondly, further in the interview Vittinghus said he spoke to Lee Cheuk Yiu about the situation and Lee Cheuk Yiu said he'd have done the same as Vittinghus in that situation.

[@benj4840]

He won the final? So what if robbed a few points

[@thefallenarm589]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton I heard this mostly about juniors as competition is very dense for danes to become pro. It may be inaccurate (still heard it from different sources). What I want to say his danes are used to not giving anything away ; still we saw Axelsen giving back a point unfairly obtained after hitting the net (against Chou Tien Chen in Dubai). Taht(s why I hate generalities. My opinion is : if you know you comitted a fault, there's no honor in winning the point, whatever is the score. And as amateurs, we don't really have the choice to trust each other on the court, it's a bit sad if this mentaity is lost in the highest competitions. It's a bit naïve but still better than being paranoïd. Badminton needs a VAR that could be called by referees when neede, as it is for hawk eye when shuttle is unseen I think. Examples : - for net plays (we saw lot of referee errors this year, and if video can't help, just remake the point) - for shuttle being touched without anyone noticing (by the racket but also by clothes, hair, ...)

[@khl.4139]

I understand the reference to have vittinghus as an example. But the argument of reversing the role what the opponent would do, is not convincing, even on pro level.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@khl.4139 funnily enough, after that match in Thailand, Vittinghus spoke to Lee Cheuk Yiu and he said he'd have done the same thing. It is up to the umpire to call these sorts of things

[@evangellydonut]

Was disappointed BWF didn't specifically stream Shida's WD games, considering how much of a fan fav she is, and that they just won bronze at paris. Also sad they bowed out so early 😞

[@nahtesab]

Lei also in the final in HK so it's not really a new excuse for Viktor losing because of the delay.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yes, Viktor said as much in his interview. Viktor does strike me as someone quite particular so that delay would effect him a lot

[@Ey3shi3ldtv]

Viktor love to arrive and get in the mood to prépare. Here flight was delayed cancelled then delayed . So spending your whole day at airport not knowing when you are flying is not the same. + They always scheduled viktor's match as seed 2 in the late late evening since he is at bottom of draw.. and here he spent all day at airport+ they put their match right in afternoon before others match in the draw... Not a big excuse but the outcome would be different with more time to prepare.

[@nahtesab]

if it does have such an effect on Viktor then that's his own problem, you can control natural disasters of the world 😂 Lei was literally in the same position and he came back and handled it like a king, he didn't go crying to people 'oh I thought we would have an evening match', he brought his best game out and showed Viktor where the door is

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@@nahtesab Viktor didn't quite say it like that...

[@panorama4526]

I think Tai Tzu Ying has in fact retired now. It‘s really hard for her to leave this sport, so she does not believe it herself. Letting go is hard for her. She said in an interview years ago, she fears to be forgotten, when she retires. For me she is the best player ever. Other opinions welcome, but…

[@nurulain8238]

We need VAR in badminton too 😌

[@larez3745]

Why didn't Alex Lanier play these two last tournaments after his big win in Japan? I'm looking forward to seeing him again !

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I was thinking this myself! I have no doubt we'll see him in the European tournaments

[@yujimilanikaida8104]

Please make a video in tribute to He Bing Jiao telling about his career and history, thank you.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

She's on my list

[@engleelim2508]

Vittinghus vs Axelsen. We know who is the bigger man here. We all have seen what Axelsen did when he knew he was at fault.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I have a feeling had it been 19all in the decider in such a huge game, Viktor might not have been as generous...as would pretty much 99% of players

[@engleelim2508]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Then the word "sportsmanship" should be erased. It is no longer a sport but a battle for money, winning at all cost. You won't get any recognition and there's no honour in it. I know I'm being naive but honour, recognition and doing the right thing used to mean something. Luckily these traits are not lost, the Malaysian team Izzudin and Goh shows it.

[@leongchoongwah]

Ben, our favourite badminton game influenced by bookies? Players not putting up their real effort, the results speak for itself! Excuse injuries, especially the unusual & unsubstantiated injuries. Now badminton received huge interest & attract big bettings.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I'm not so sure, I wouldn't like to point fingers without proof. There have been plenty of cases in the past so hard to say it isn't a part of the game now. I hope not

[@lauralee1961]

I hope you will be the commentator for every tournament when Gill is not there. I think you are suitable as a commentator.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

You're too kind Laura

[@lauralee1961]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Badminton lovers need someone who is always active to listen to complaints on the field. for example, things that sometimes harm players because the referee is dishonest and biased. Maybe with you as a commentator will share space for us badminton lovers to give opinions and suggestions🙌🏻

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@lauralee1961 better start my own broadcasting channel than because if I did that BWF would fire me quicker than you could say "changes are needed..."

[@lauralee1961]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton You are right but I am sure that criticism from badminton lovers will not be listened to because this has happened often and until now there has been no change. Hopefully you can be a commentator then🙌🏻

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@@lauralee1961 I would love to be a commentator. Would be fun

[@garyhart88]

I would love to know your thoughts about women’s doubles winner

[@ABHISHEK-by8re]

Ben please make a video regarding An Se Young and will she be able to return on the court again?

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

It might come up in a Beckman's Breakdown Episode

[@ABHISHEK-by8re]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton thanks man

[@hentiboi604]

I would really recommend that you talk a bit faster otherwise great content.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

That's just my normal speed but I've taken note

[@michellelau7027]

Hi you can choose at the setting on the top right of this video and choose playback speed to speed up or slow down :) hopefully it will be helpful

[@hentiboi604]

@@michellelau7027 ofc I know that but that makes it seem unnatural.

[@thefallenarm589]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton I like this speed, it let me time to process rather than just listening. Good luck to satisfy everyone 😅

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@@thefallenarm589 🤣🤣

[@00crasher00]

LZJ is the drama King.

[@alexisbodet5055]

I don't know

[@benj4840]

WHY reminded me of a Lin Dan just not the original one

[@muiawat]

31:58 NBA and Japanese badminton

[@uncle7080]

Hey beck can u explain how on earth that china WS chen yufei got bwf ranking protection while she not injury? China team always got that BS

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I'm sorry but I have no answer to this. I don't know the rules and regs surrounding protective ranking. If I hear anything or find out anything I'll let you know

[@fraeck]

Japan needs to have more strong women singles beside Tomoka Miyazaki to avoid her having to compete alone against 3 or 4 Chinese players in a tournament.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

They do have a few that are starting to show a good level too like Gunji and Akechi. Gunji also a world junior champ but injuries have plagued her. She's on her return though. Hopefully one of those 2 can join Miyazaki in the top tier

[@febyy4500]

Definitely need VAR…..

[@OsukaBadminton]

So can someone summarize why all the big names withdrew?. Was it because theyre all boycotting something or what

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

It wasn't that long after Olympics and most were either taking a break or letting injuries heal. There was no boycott. For one reason or another, time was needed

[@로드홀]

한국어 자막 부탁해요!!!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Can u help?

[@editionlvl]

Weng Hong Yang is not Tee Kai Wun....thats why...lol

[@SolomonClarkeFitness80]

You did a great job of breaking down the bulk of it, but some of points I just wanted to mention (and sorry if this is a long post): - I think it's worth talking about Vitidsarn and his mentality. He seems too relaxed to fulfil his potential. Let me explain: - Before the China Open he took a nearly 2 month break, and while he did make the semi-final, he looked totally shot in the 2nd game. His stamina was totally done and Kodai was absolutely in control. It's plain to see that the break hurt his physicality, which is important in a sport like badminton. This isn't a one-time thing either; he took a break after he became world champion and a similar thing happened. He almost seems casual. Look at his reactions when he loses important tournament such as the super 1000s, world champs and olympics. Smiling and giggling like he's there for the fun of the game rather than the wins. - On the contrary, when Lin Dan loses, he swears, looks angry, or drop kicks his racket high into the air (don't forget taking off the medal and trying to refuse the crown). When Viktor loses, he is more gracious than Lin Dan but you can tell he hates it. He sometimes shouts or looks annoyed. What I'm saying is their "driven to win at all costs" mentality has helped them fulfil their potential, and it's a shame Vitidsarn isn't the same way. - He has so many weapons. The best deceptions, decent movement, great stamina when he's fit, great shot quality, some of the best hand-eye co-ordination ever, very good defense. He reminds me of Momota, or a male version of Tai Tzu Ying (a bit). The only thing he lacks is a cannon of a shoulder to 1 hit kill points but 1) that could come with time and 2) isn't necessarily essential if the rest of your game is so good. I just hope that, 5-7 years later, he will not become the Nick Kyrgios or Gael Monfils of badminton - immensely talented physically, and has some of the best hand-eye co-ordination in badminton history, but his mind prevented him from truly living up to his potential, making him one of the biggest underachievers in badminton history. He is young and could turn it around, but if no changes are made, then I fear this path is where he's headed. - Kodai has a mental block/bad nerves when it comes to finals. Unlike someone like Lin Dan, who is famous for clutching, Kodai is a Lee Chong Wei, famous for choking. His record in finals is 2-5, but: - One of the wins was only a super 100, and the other was the China Masters which is less important than the China Open (which comes right before it). So it could well be argued that his record in more major finals is 1-5 or even 0-5. If he doesn't get over it, he too could be remembered as an underachiever. I hope he works on this. - Finally, I just want to talk about Viktor and why I think we can expect his loss rate to increase in the following years. - If you look at the past greats, they all changed their strategy when they aged/their physicality started declining to keep on top. Lin Dan became a more tactical player, as he could no longer smash as hard or as relentlessly as he used to. Lee Chong Wei became more attacking to keep up as you said in your 2011 world championship video. Momota changed to a more attacking style to keep up. Chen Long became more conservative due to age and blisters (ouch). - Viktor, however, has played the same way for over 10 years. Make his opponent hit high, smash their high shot, follow up if needed, rinse and repeat. That's it. That's Viktor's strategy. It has worked very well thus far due to his height and the fact that he has one of the best jumps of any MS player ever - 2021-2024 Olympic Viktor must have stood a solid meter in the air at times, creating unreturnable angles. - However, now I think he is slowly beginning to lose his stamina, and if someone resists his attack and is able to make the scoreline close or prolong the rallies, he can make errors due to the fatigue. His playstyle is a very tiring one and stamina has always been a weakness of his - if you've watched Viktor against the likes of Chen Long and especially Momota you'll know that. - If Viktor does not transition to a slower, more tactical, less strenuous style to conserve stamina, I think his winning days might be limited. And, most importantly, Viktor does not seem like someone who wants to change - he seems like someone who wants to play like he has ALWAYS played rather than potentially change due to his aging body. I'll leave it there. Any discussion is welcome!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thanks for laying out some very interesting points. Plenty of things to think about, I appreciate you taking the time to do so. Not sure I'll address them in a comment but maybe in a future video

[@SolomonClarkeFitness80]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Well, I'll just wait patiently then! Thanks for reading.👍

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@SolomonClarkeFitness80 you make very nice points, interesting ones and as all directed at men's singles players maybe it could make a nice video

[@SolomonClarkeFitness80]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Yep, MS is very interesting right now.

[@benj4840]

Vitidsarn wasn’t out of stamina he just wasn’t playing well tbh not even mouth aggression

[@thefallenarm589]

21:38 hahaha I remember a controversial point in a final between Chou Tien Chen and Anthony Ginting, end of last year I think or beginning of this year. It clearly stole the match from CTC in my opinion and BWF didn't post the replay and deleted the direct right after the match. the whole tournament was there (maybe still is) but not the MS final. BWF hides most of referee's problems, don't communicate about it, nor try to fix them apparently.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Hahahaha, yeah they definitely go on damage control and avoid the issues. Whenever I've tried to do videos on this for them they flat out refuse. Anything mildly controversial needs avoiding at all costs

[@akidna804]

yes.. Lcy vs ginting also like that.. and in the match poin no less.. should bwf use challenge like var in football?

[@waibibabow8340]

32:38 "Your team deserves better" ad at the perfect moment lol

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

😅

[@OntopoftheRN]

Can’t stand the way you talk, accent, flow, and bias. China won 4 out of 5, and dominated this tournament no matter what. 😂

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Ok mate 👍🏻