Tim Keller is Preparing the Church for Something

[@WokePreacherClips]

If Tim really thinks our culture doesn't believe in transcendent, external truth, he needs to post the phrase "trans women aren't women" on his Twitter page and refuse to delete it when they lock his account.

[@noxvenit]

Boom.

[@rjnordin]

Excellent Jon. Not everything Keller says is wrong, but the essence of what he's trying to do is.

[@WasLostButNowAmFound]

Tim Keller transcription: Holy Spirit has no power to save post modernists.

[@phannybrce]

You are spot in when you say there is no room given to the Holy Spirit. Everything is so calculated. This is why many Big Eva or PCA churches are teaching relational evangelism. I can't tell you how many times I have heard other Christians argue that no one will accept you telling them the truth unless they "trust you first." But how in the world can someone trust you if you are consistently withholding what you know to be true from them? Also, how many of our grandparents and parents DID hear the gospel from complete strangers or even people they didn't initially like? No faith in the Holy Spirit to do the work. I understand our first encounter with everyone we meet isn't going to be a gospel track and there are various methods of sharing the gospel. But really, it comes down to prayer, faithfulness and obedience on our part, trusting that through that, people will encounter the Holy Spirit.

[@marknolan5182]

I was going to post exactly the same sentiment.... the Holy Spirit is the key. And its really putting faith in God alone to believe the Holy Spirit will perform that work in a non-believer, not my work in presenting the Gospel.

[@TheJpep2424]

Those that have a man centered gospel and believe in decisional salvation do this. When you believe a God centered gospel and regeneration by the Holy Spirit you understand no one is born again because of the right method. Preach the gospel and pray the Lord regenerates.

[@acountrygirlsews2508]

Heard a woman give her testimony after hearing the gospel for the first time, what she said about the lady giving her the gospel message . ‘ I didn’t have a clue what she was talking about, but I KNEW she KNEW what she was talking about.´

[@zman5387]

Before I was a Christian the type of Christians I worked with many times, and respected as men were frankly the more conservative types across the board. They were firm, but at the same time there was a compassion there that although at the time I didn't like Christianity, I still could respect. Then I came across these Tim Keller, liberal type Christians, (or "Christians") who always seemed to be these slippery, squishy, pietistic kinds of people that if anything I was repelled by. We need to lovingly, but firmly start with the truth, that's our foundation, then work from there. If the world excepts it or not is not up to us, we've done our job. Tim Kelly doesn't do this much of the time, he starts with his own liberal meanderings that drones on and on and on. He ends up being his own worst enemy.

[@Claire5020GEN]

I went to an intellectualized Christian church for many years. I feel at the root, the people in leadership wanted a place in this world, to be liked in the community--- to NOT be one of those radical Bible thumpers of all things.

[@bethanyg153]

Yes, this has been my experience as well.

[@markbrooks8623]

You are correct. They want to be conformed to the world. They want the world to love them. But if the world loves them, how can they be of Christ. Because they hate Christ, and they hate what is Christ's. The Bible plainly says this.

[@johnp7739]

Yep. That's why they love talking about people with allegedly bad "Bible Belt" experiences. Yes, there are some issues and superficiality with the Bible Belt, but it's more about attracting "enlightened" types. Also, they rarely use the term Biblical any more. Everything they do is "Gospel-centered" or even "Christ-centered" but grounded in a mixture of science, "acceptable" modern teachings (hence the woke stuff) and some parts of the Bible.

[@michaelorr9253]

Keller is a Philosopher who happens to be a Christian.I have never heard him give a bold proclamation of the Gospel,he talks and waxes poetic

[@kovenant7]

As a Calvinist reformed Presbyterian I say this, Keller should be avoided.

[@Gospelmama1940]

I am not a Calvinist and I agree with you.

[@LB-my3fx]

Who are solid crp’s other than the warhorn media guys?

[@marknolan5182]

@@LB-my3fx RC wasn't too bad on his day😉(his day's ended in Y)

[@timothykennedy6804]

The problem with people like Keller is that they predetermine the answers they want, and then they twist, or mischaracterize scripture into something that agrees with their worldview.

[@Rosesandtea]

Some very interesting thoughts here. Although we must be aware of culture and our hearers’ likely thought patterns, we must never forget how mighty a God we serve and how much *He* wants His message proclaimed, and that it is He who enables us to speak and enables the heaters to understand. He’s given us the message.

[@danbrown586]

My pastor's observed, though I don't think it's original to him, that ever major heresy, all the way back to the Christological heresies of the first couple of centuries, arose out of a desire to evangelize--to make the message more palatable to the hearers. I think you're right about Keller's motivation, but that doesn't make it any more right.

[@markbrooks8623]

There are two kinds of evangelism. The one based in the Bible knows that the duty is to preach the Word and be a good example, and those the Spirit convicts will be drawn in by the message. The other believes it is the job of the human messenger. That is how they fill the church with unsaved people. That is how they fail. The second kind, whether they are sincere believers or not, never really build the Church of Jesus Christ. And that means they are building something else.

[@chrstfllwr1]

I'm in a church that has been heavily influenced by Keller. We hear the "be in culture but not of the culture" all the time. Be Christian in the arts, in media, in business. All well and good. The problem is the people in the pews have received dumbed down theology and are ignorant of a Biblical worldview. So what they take to the culture is "for me" thinking. "For me Jesus is my savior." Not, Jesus is Lord over all and His Law had a lot to say about arts, politics, business, etc. They also hear cultural memes like me too, SJW, BLM from the pulpit. The pastors think if they use CRT sayings that somehow it makes it Christian. Keller gets some of the problem right but his answers are way wrong.

[@chiefofsinners5272]

I think we can all agree Keller is the best Game Show Host posing as a Minister of God's Word that Big Eva has...

[@kzuk9237]

You nailed it Jon, Keller is all about an intellectual approach and way to repackage the church and the gospel. I have also never heard boldly preaching the gospel and living out the gospel as the answer, no matter what happens, we trust God to work through His Word, not our innovation or intellect.

[@jackjones3657]

Well said. This has been an unbiblical trend for many years now in churches and via some of the Apologetics 'ministries,' to intellectualize everything in order to seek worldly approval and resulting appeasement. It is also a reflection of "church leaders" fearing man and desiring his approval without much thought to God's timeless Truth.

[@johntobey1558]

Unbiblical trends, or specific slander about a servant of God who has terminal cancer. Have a heart please. People are being hurt by the lies about a great man of God. Please get a real career.

[@sheilasmith7779]

Keller: Draw people in by presenting a tolerant outlook and a humble persona, and you will draw people in. But this only works with people who feel rather than think. And those that do not read scripture.

[@marknolan5182]

And it assumes that the Holy Spirit doesn't have anything to do with working in that unbeliever.

[@markbrooks8623]

@@marknolan5182 Therein lies the real problem. A lot of supposed Christian leaders think that whether people come to faith in Christ or not is on them. It is as if they've never read the BIble, or if they have, they don't really believe it. I put Keller in the latter camp. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts, but Keller doesn't really believe that. And that makes you wonder, what else might he, really, not believe.

[@michaellautermilch9185]

And those who aren't interested in repentance.

[@sheilasmith7779]

@@michaellautermilch9185 Good point, yes.

[@johnbeale4164]

Another clear example of the flawed third way. Deceptive and deadly to the gospel message. To think that we need to manipulate our response to culture to allow non believers a better opportunity to believe is man centered. The Lord saves through the power of His gospel. We simply need to proclaim it. He then gets the glory, not us. Thanks, Jon!

[@sheilasmith7779]

Hey, I have some sound, quality pieces of lumber in my building. Ignore the fact that the foundation is faulty. Sometimes I think we would all ve better off if we didnt listen to preachers and JUST read scripture. Keller is scary because he is so intellectually smooth. Jon is right on Keller.

[@Truth83rtz]

I like your reference to the sermon in Mars Hill in Acts 17. This passage is so timely and timeless. Especially if one understands what the Epicureans and Stoics believed.

[@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly]

You're right Jon. When we read the NT, Paul changed the world by preaching the gospel. That's still the answer. Pre, post, the answer is still the same, it's the gospel; preach Christ and Him crucified.

[@Gashd820]

Amen!

[@nancywenger1388]

Thank you Jon. Very good.

[@brentbergman1738]

The PCA's division is so much of what Jon is explaining. There are those that minister according to strategy and intellectual arguments. And then there are those that minister according to the means for grace. This is so clear it's painful.

[@Gashd820]

Amen!

[@havocsquaddropout6681]

I find it so strange how preachers such as Tim Keller understand God's sovereignty yet won't have the faith to trust God in what he's doing in the world. Don't worry about how you present the Gospel to a post-modern society, just faithfully present it and let God do the rest. The Apostates in Acts didn't come up with some grand strategy sitting in a house planning things out. They prayed.

[@transparentzwindows]

I'm dubious that he doesn't have an 'answer' to the question he poses. I think he knows how to groom the church.

[@jorgesam90]

We already have a book! Your assessment is spot on, brother!

[@cat-bg3rv]

Amen "The Book" 📖✝️

[@andrewduggan4836]

Exactly right, not justice for the poor, it was mercy for the poor, i.e. charity. Proverbs 24:33,34 teaches that poverty is justice for the lazy.

[@darrellpowell4331]

Isaiah 6 9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people: ‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand; Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’ 10 “Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed.” 11 Then I said, “Lord, how long?” And He answered: “Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant, The houses are without a man, The land is utterly desolate,

[@connielinsky2072]

Connie's husband, Dean, here. What bothers me about speakers like Keller and many book authors is how they talk about society like they actually know what is going on. OK, if 10-15% acknowledge openly that they are gay, lesbian, etc, that still leaves 85-90% who aren't. I want to hear what they think, not the minute minority. Besides, how many churches and in how many regions of the USA has Keller visited and actually talked to common people about what they believe? As I travel, I find people and churches express differing values, and priorities about how to live and worship as Christians. I just don't believe that Keller and others who tell us how things are in the Church actually have sufficient information to pronounce and call us to their broad-based conclusions.

[@calfortrump9399]

In my opinion, I agree with your open analysis and humble approach. God bless.

[@benthompsonmedia]

Nailed it! I see many leaders not trusting the Spirit of God or the sufficiency of God's message. Major red flags. The Gospel is universal for all people of all times. And you're right, we're not the first post-modern culture by far - but that's the hook he uses to get people's ears to prick up for his "solution."

[@ldschmidt308]

Good morning Jon. Post the old guys web address again please

[@kzuk9237]

Does anyone else find it odd that celebrity pastors go to seminaries and seem to always start with, “this isn’t going to be a sermon or exposition, this is a talk”??? Why is it seminaries and bible colleges need to hear the man’s words and not Gods word?

[@krepd1]

Good morning Jon!

[@jimflys2]

Do we really think, ever, that the unregenerated heart will be somehow turned toward God apart from the work of the Holy Spirit thru the word? Never! We need to stop trying to convert anyone with reason, pop evangelism, intellect or love bombs. Preach the word and let it do its job. It WILL harden hearts. It WILL soften hearts. It WILL condemn. It WILL bring to life. Who are we, any of us, to determine God's hand in WHAT that word does? It will do as He wants. But, we want to build little empires for ourselves on this earth rather than suffering and persevere in this life with occasional joys of being allowed such graces as seeing hearts turned to God, faith strengthened, churches being faithful and babies being born and children confessing their faith as they so purely do.

[@aforderhase]

What a very astute and nuanced analysis. Very well done. Very helpful. Thank you.

[@johnsalvesen4386]

Excellent analysis on Keller.

[@sammyt4549]

Good morning!

[@umaikakudo]

"Our business is to present the Christian faith clothed in modern terms, not to propagate modern thought clothed in Christian terms." J.I. Packer “The problem which confronts us as we approach modern man today is not how we are to change Christian teaching in order to make it more palatable, for to that would mean throwing away any chance of giving the real answer to man in despair; rather it is only a problem of how we many communicate the Gospel so that it is understood.” ― Francis A. Schaeffer, The God Who Is There

[@jeremyhinken3365]

There's a monumental problem with relativism: [9] The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? [10] I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. Jer. 17:9-10 Something very ominous is on the horizon: [25] In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes. Judges 21:25

[@craigamore2319]

If the Gospel penetrated a pre-Christian culture, by His will and design, then the Gospel can and will penetrate the post-Christian culture, by His will and design. Never soft peddle what stands on its own, whether or not the world likes that.

[@impish22]

Making my weekend better.. thanks Jon..!!

[@katiesmith5149]

Where did this “blood and soil” business come from? What does it even mean?? It grated on me when Russell Moore used it. I had no idea Tim Keller used it, too.

[@edeancozzens3833]

I once met Lambert Dolphin way back in the late 60s when he came to our church in Greeley, Colorado.

[@jbaggett2674]

Met Lambert when he spoke at our Christian coffeehouse in Fort Lauderdale in 1970.

[@matthewherren]

I heard from a close friend who was a member of Tim’s church that at their home fellowship group they had kegs there. Is this true? Maybe just one of many houses who chose to have a keg. What’s the moral culture like?

[@campgroundmanagement6835]

It really just boils down to Keller, and others having an incredibly LOW view of scripture and the Son of God who is the Word incarnate. The Word is God. It needs no repackaging. God has the perfect intellect, He doesn’t need you to intellectualize the message. The Bible is the truth, it doesn’t need you to present more “truthfully”. It is pure and perfect. It doesn’t need you to not contrast our own impurity, or accept the world’s view of it as imperfect.

[@jeffwangsgaard8542]

Thanks again for a great episode, Jon. ! It is really sad that Tim Keller seems to continue to make excuses for his ideological beliefs to make himself sound as if he is being biblical. Where is his understanding of the difference between charity and force? Organic diversity and forced? And biblical truth and worldly lies? The guy just doesn’t seem to have any discernment. Again he seems to be driven by his ideology and then trying to find excuses for that theology and applying that reasoning.

[@cat-bg3rv]

This video explains a lot for me to have an understanding on just what the late Tim Keller had taught.

[@CalebGrundyson]

Love your videos!

[@patgruzenski1974]

Vulnerability or “winsomeness” that effectively draws ppl in? A wolf is a wolf 🤷‍♀️

[@marymack1]

Wow, only half way through this video, but he really seems to be downplaying, at best, the power of the Gospel.

[@daccaboy]

KZbin Keller on revival. Watch it. Then read the 9th commandment. Then read your comment again.

[@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah]

Seems to me that post-Christian is to reject the Gospel. I'm not saying God can't or won't draw them to Himself, but I do think they need to be broken by God. What do we do? We preach the foolishness, which is the Gospel, to save them who trust. Let us be salt and light and make students of all nations; let us be obedient and trust God to do what He does.

[@ronniegagnon9680]

Thank you John for your decernment the Bible is the best interpreter for the Bible

[@Truth83rtz]

Kind of reminds me of a John Shelby Spong talk I heard where he was talking about how we had to redefine christianity if christianity was going to survive. I don't think Tim Keller is there but it seems he may be talking himself in that direction. The problem is that at some point one defines christianity out of existence. It won't be the same thing anymore. The promise is that this won't happen. God will keep his church. "...the gates of hell shall not prevail against it...".

[@judithmargret5972]

Exactly. Jesus is building His church not us. We can also intellectualise the Gospel out of existence, if we believe it's up to us, or depends on what we say, we will be like Keller. If we believe that God is sovereign, and that it is Him who quickens and draws people by His Spirit, through the preaching of the Gospel, then we won't listen to people like Keller, but the apostles, and preach the Gospel.

[@johnslagboom1836]

I like your analysis. They are profound, deep, and insightful. Your criticism of Keller's approach could be made of the Apostle Paul's approach on Mars Hill. Tim was called to reach a similar demographic in NY City. You could look at Calvin, Luther, Knox for example and level analysis of each that questioned why they saw and did things so differently in the way they actually applied the Gospel to the Cultures they were called to reach in their day. Keller's Gospel is orthodox. His application is penetrating and life changing in some of the most profound ways. I have yet to hear one thing in all his preaching or books that I could point to that is not orthodox. Yet, your critique is helpful to help us remain cautious and yes, let's us stay close to a simple presentation of the Gospel that relies on the power of the Holy Spirit to save those whom God has chosen!

[@peachymim]

It always seems as though Keller, and others like him, make the clear cloudy so that their solutions appear profound.

[@chrstfllwr1]

25:48 did you hear the slight of hand. Hurtado does not mean for those 5 things what Keller says. Keller takes historical realities in a 1st century context and applies SJW filter.

[@calfortrump9399]

"Today's Conflict, Tomorrow's Crisis", by D. James Kennedy. "Toxic Faith", Arterburn & Felton. "The Psychological Way, The Spiritual Way", Bobgan. "The Spiritual Man", Watchman Nee. "Mere Christianity", C.S.Lewis. "The Golden Cow", by John White. God bless. 😁

[@as-you-were8017]

Jon, Seriously......you should be getting better at this not worse. My camera died....really? God gave you this excellent podcast and the gift of being able to explain situations in a wonderful manner that is palatable to wide swath of believers. I think maybe your being pulled in to many directions. Time to hire some help? Guessing at where the points in the video are that you want to show...thats just lazy...you should have all those time stamps written down. C'mon Jon be a good steward and get your act together.....30,000 people are subscribed. Having said all that please know I'm saying this because I believe you have so much more potential. You should have a million subs by now.

[@hisservants8003]

I am just thankful he takes the time to even do so many podcasts. He still has to work, and they did just move. I would rather see a hiccup in the podcast, than no podcast at all. He is doing great and still growing his audience. Who is going to pay for the help he hires? lol Not arguing with you btw. Just sharing my thoughts on what you said. God Bless.

[@brentonstanfield5198]

Good video. Thanks for highlighting this video about Keller. I agreed with much of it and think these are issues that are good to discuss and clarify. I think you got it wrong at about 28:00 when you insinuated that Keller was trying to make a connection between the early church and modern progressives. That was not his point. He is saying that the early church was distinct both from modern progressives and modern conservatives. Presumably he would argue because Christians have a different foundation from both.

[@arminius504]

I think you misunderstood. He did state that the first two points sound like democrats and the last two like republicans. That is what he said. And no the first two have nothing to do with the democrats, their platform. As a whole with the 5 points combined he says it’s a group not like the democrats or republicans but with the first two points he did make that connection and it shows how deceived and media brainwashed he is. The left is not about charity at all nor about color blindness like the early church was which is classified as right wing these days. So he is very much out of touch with reality when he makes that connection and this was pointed out. It was not said that Keller though as a whole Christians were like progressives. Listen to it again. It’s about the two points where Keller makes the connection not all the 5 points.

[@daccaboy]

Brenton, good observation about 28.00. I'm not sure John listened to this well. John also states over and over "I sense" and doesn't clearly present an argument. Also, this is a "talk".

[@wandacorley1]

This is hogwash!!. The problem is all cultures are in disobedience to a holy God. They knew God but refused to acknowledge God and would rather worship the created than the Creator. We also have the Holy Spirit. God has preserved His Truth for thousands of years. I get nauseated just listening to him.

[@kzuk9237]

Jon, in your last episode you mentioned a book written by some Presbyterian pastors refuting Keller. What book is that?

[@jamiesmith9827]

Engaging with Keller

[@mremcee]

Being grounded in the truth ourselves and living our lives with Jesus is the best and perhaps only way to reach these people "as we go".

[@kengodwin4360]

I saw him give this speech in Alabama in the summer of 2016. I was at a Chaplain's conference.

[@wandacorley1]

I fear for his eternal destiny. Thinking himself wise, he has become foolish in thinking 😞

[@Gashd820]

@Wanda Corley, I agree wholeheartedly!

[@CSUnger]

Yeah, there’s a very real part of me that doesn’t want to suffer for the cross either and wants to have my cake and eat it too but, in my heart of hearts, I know it’s really not getting me anywhere. "Moab has been at ease from his youth and has settled on his lees; he has not been emptied from vessel to vessel, nor has he gone into exile; so his taste remains in him, and his scent is not changed” Jeremiah 48:11

[@libbysteimel8201]

Though he gives an intellectual approach, he smoothes the way with his natural temperament, disarming and soft and vulnerable, making the hearer susceptible. You are subtly called to protect Keller's feelings so you are left unprotected and unthinking. He has a feminized personality which draws people to protect him and accept his persuasions. He mixes truth with " his own understanding." This is dangerous and takes the distracted listener down irrelevant side paths.

[@flowerpower3618]

A feminized personality? What does that mean? Because he is calm ?

[@libbysteimel8201]

@@flowerpower3618 He's not always calm. His wife had the dominating personality .

[@adamjohns78]

Minute 27:00, I think it’s very important to accurately characterize things… it was a commitment to not segregating people who might be different… the left sees that as pro-diversity and inclusion, but I think the “be ye separate” mandate in Scripture basically prohibits worldly inclusion…

[@mary-janechambers3596]

Does Keller know the power of the Word of God? 1Thess 2:13. He seems to lean heavily on mens wisdom in the books he reads.

[@touchofgrace3217]

God intentionally put Israel at the literal crossroads of the trade world. The area would have been naturally diverse. The commitment was to Christ not to diversity. 🙄

[@PrentissYeates]

He’s asking Christians to return to the Shire, find their homes, lock the door, close the drapes and wait for the morning to rise. It’s very Catholic in its approach. And as Martin Lloyd Jones reminded us many years ago, there has never, ever been a revival in the Catholic Church. He’s asking us to not be guided by the Holy Spirit with His word.

[@JonathanGrandt]

What’s so wrong with the decline in church membership/attendance or whatever you want to call it? Perhaps the season has come… What do you want to fill the church up with? A bunch of tares? So long as they’re paying I guess… but the Body of Christ isn’t even necessarily in those buildings to begin with.

[@cosmic_order]

Do you consider christians who are politically liberal to be enemies or brothers and sisters who are in error?

[@cosmic_order]

@Caleb P You don't see any practical difference between brothers and sisters who are in error and enemies of the gospel?

[@arminius504]

@@cosmic_order How would the apostle Paul have treated people in the church who promote abortion, same sex marriage, racial division, the trans agenda etc. I think he would have called them to repentance and then excommunicated them if not repentant. That is the impression I get when I read his writings. The Gospel is about reconciliation with God and repentance of sin so how does advancing those sins (social and societal acceptance) make you not an enemy of the gospel?

[@cosmic_order]

@@arminius504 You're painting with a very broad brush there. I didn't say theologically liberal or politically far left. I said politically liberal.

[@Cricket-vh4rw]

Tim Keller and others seem to base peoples salvation on what WE say and present NOt on the fact that it’s ALL God drawing us and whomever to Him and we’re JUST the vessel to use when He chooses to use and we are to be ready w an answer at any time for HIM to speak through us if He so chooses!!!

[@CSWRB]

Amazing how he can mostly identify a problem, but then supports political ideologies that promote the problem.

[@conservativemovement]

"Here's your muzzle, here's your blindfold - put them on and then turn around so can put on these zip ties..." - Tim Keller

[@matthewherren]

In many ways the dudes in the pulpit have no idea what it’s like to be in the [REAL] WORLD and constantly face [REAL] PERSECUTION. Instead they play with thoughts (false humble naval gazing) in the IVORY TOWER..while the faithful (godly) face persecution. These men with their income..their “talks”..their lifestyle..while the rest aggressively live “dangerously” by Faith daily.

[@sonofjay817]

People "don't have the furniture that sermons assume". That states very well the frustration I've encountered when trying to witness but didn't know how to articulate it.

[@daccaboy]

Jay, you demonstrate an awareness of the issues. Good post. I love that you are trying to witness. "What do you mean by God?" is a question that relates to Keller's "furniture" metaphor. In preaching there is a difference between "heat" and "light". Keller emphasizes "light" - clarity and demonstration of his terms.

[@room2growrose623]

Yup, and while I believe in apologetics completely, they have their place, NO ONE can be argued into the kingdom. If there is not submission of self & will, all the arguments in the world produce nothing. The imperative is not on us to produce salvific results, and that is where Tim Keller is coming from in thinking intellectually that he has something to do with outcomes but he has nothing to do with it.

[@jerryhenson4395]

I wonder if Keller has ever read and considered authors like Van Til, Bahnsen, or Bruggencate. Presuppositional apologetics provides answers to a lot of his questions.

[@daccaboy]

One can hear Van Til in his apologetic approach. He challenges the presuppositions of the non-believer consistently in many of his sermons. It made him effective in New York City - "who is the intolerant one?" "When you say you reject Christianity because it is too narrow, look how you are narrow here."

[@mamainchristjesusofthechri9886]

If you want to know Keller’s motivations, look at what he owns. Check his vehicles, homes, and those of his children, too. Check his wife’s shoes and purse collection, too.

[@lorisingleton4318]

Lambert is awesome! Great on the topic of creationism.

[@JonathanGrandt]

Tim Killer has spent the last 20 years preparing the church for…. something.

[@gregb6469]

We must not change the Gospel to appeal to a generation that has a messed up concept of reality. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and it has not lost its power in the 21st century.

[@nebraskafarmer9015]

Jon summed up the flaw in Tim Keller's approach to evangelism very nicely, at the end of this video, when he said Keller is trying to come up with a plan instead of relying on the working of the Holy Spirit. All to often Christians approach evangelism like they are salesmen selling a product. I get the distinct feeling they are saying "If we just do it this way, then people will come to Christ by the thousands."

[@johntobey1558]

The only thing any Pastor needs to prepare his flock fir is the events if Christ',s return amd millennial reign.

[@Mary_Kraensel]

Perhaps Mr Keller has taken the seeker-sensitive approach of becoming more like the world in order to reach the world; and in so doing, has taken on their ideologies, which has led to his aberrant teaching. It's something to consider, I guess.

[@pilgrimonanarrowway2034]

There's a reason why we are warned about false teachings, to stay away from them because they're doctrines of demons; from the pits of hell.

[@sheilasmith7779]

Mary, very good point that makes sense.

[@darrellpowell4331]

These folks keep calling for change but they never give a definition for the change and how it's supposed to work and which Scriptures align with it.

[@sheilasmith7779]

Do christians understand the importance of scripture knowledge and the value of thinking and reasoning? Are we too lazy to do our own investigating and stop relying so much on teachers and teaching.

[@impish22]

It seems Mr Keller is forgetting about John the Baptist who spoke of repentance, repentance, repentance... what does that have to do with "cultural economy" Mr Keller? The gospel is plain and simple and always works... anytime you try to mess with it to please society, you lose the true gospel... God's word is the sharp sword... you don't need to tiptoe around the truth

[@Gashd820]

Absolutely....aptly stated!

[@MrPorter7]

Modern day Karl Barth.

[@TheChristianImperialist]

"The church needs to transcend the partisanship of American politics" **registers as a Democrat**

[@darrelljackson6175]

Isn't a "new approach" what critical theory and all Social Justice teaching includes? How is that working out to build up the church?

[@matthewherren]

When I hear Keller and those who gravitate towards him and his kind they seem to promote this false humility and false intellectualism. For many/some, it could be all they have.

[@joycesmith8299]

I have completed reading the current comments, opinions of the observable character of Tim Keller and concluded that if the majority here are correct, Tim Keller is the perfect Laodecian...neither hot nor cold...but by his own third way choice, lukewarm in his beliefs.

[@frae7143]

Paul washer's response to those who are curious about how he preaches to Indians in remote jungle

[@stehir9260]

You can be born again without being changed? 2 Cor 5:17 says no.

[@doctrinalwatchdog6268]

The prodigal God, doesn't that mean the wasteful irresponsible God?

[@mariosangermano5709]

This is why reformed theology is so much more biblical, because its God centered not man centered. Man thinks he has to change the truth to attract unbelievers to believe, when man has no such power to begin with. Its God who chooses before the foundation of the world. God calls us to faithfully share the gospel message, the good parts as well as the not so popular parts. That's it!! We water, He gives the increase.

[@sethpawlik]

I believe that Tim Keller is a Calvinist.

[@zach2980]

Why do those that are predestined need attracting? The few that are chosen are in, albeit on the seeming backs of the majority destined to hell.

[@scotthuffman3916]

Isn't a doubt the antithesis of faith? Keller rarely seems to go to Scripture for answers.