Converting Mortise Lock to Schlage keyed knob with Wrap Plate

[@Bloodsin1]

Not gonna lie I chuckled at those tiny knipex pliers when you showed them before. I take it back, those little things are legit.

[@selock]

I’ve started finding myself using them everyday now! They aren’t “comfortable” to use since they are so little but they are awesome nonetheless! Probably will end up being the best $30 I’ve spent on a tool in a while

[@selock]

the first few comments made me realize I needed to post why I went wrap ;) There is a modernization kit with two flat plates and a edge plate that can also be used for these conversions that sometimes looks/works better. I chose to go wrap for this because of thin door, good gap, and existing edge damage around latch. In a different scenario it is my preference to use the flat cover plates as well (but I don’t like their edge strip, it’s too bendy so I use the commercial version) but it’s pretty dicey on the thin doors :)

[@BiggCope]

Can you share the link to the modernization kit? I need some.

[@shieldcracker]

Kwikset modernization kits Nos. 214 and 215 can be found at hdw stores.

[@StevenNovak]

I appreciate you saying that you don’t like wrap around plates. Sometimes a necessary evil. ~Locksmith in Dallas

[@ken_9359]

I lived in some apartments that were built in 1939 and they had the same looking locks. They were old Corbin mortise locks with two toggle buttons on the side and thumb turn on the inside. I loved them locks.

[@gingermccoy8063]

I love the way he uses down home tools for us do it on your own cheap yet effective

[@kevinkoepke8311]

First house I rented was built in 1927, this house looks to be built similar, kitchen, porch, etc. It's now a historic home, though moved to a museum. It was the honeymoon home built for my landlady Mrs Ghirardi. I'd go to her farmhouse to pay rent and visit every month. She was in her eighties then. Great video Jason. Thanks!

[@selock]

yep! All the houses around certain neighborhoods are just like this, 20’s-50’s eras. It’s uncommon for me to not be at one of these every day so I get a lot of practice (you probably notice me eye rolls at the 1000 nail strike patch up 😂)

[@kevinwitt8827]

I love these how to videos. They're really helpful for newbie locksmiths like myself. Awesome tip on the cardboard! I'm doing a bunch of those door wraps now and that will come in handy. Thanks so much for sharing Jason!

[@pchang2000]

This video helped me to convert the lock myself and saved $$$ and not hire carpenter or locksmith!

[@luismartin8676]

Thank you so much!! This is a great video and I watched without blinking. Just got a house and this is good help! Thanks!

[@olesam8970]

Thanks for making the video and the comment about two flat plates being an option too. It's steering me in the right direction.

[@s.nelson3436]

This was so helpful! Will be trying this on 3 bedrooms doors. Thought I had to replace the entire door to get a regular knob

[@greenbrierlocksmith]

This video and the video on redrilling smaller holes to standard size were both very helpful to me in my area. That is, if I can't talk them into letting me restore their antiques. I had one of these just two weeks ago, and I'll have another home with 2 similar doors in the coming weeks. That cardboard trick is huge! Thanks so much for making these videos. You made me nervous drilling with the wrap on :)

[@selock]

I made me nervous drilling with the wrap plate on! :) Thanks for watching!

[@Chirael]

Always a pleasure to watch you work and make the best you can out of tough situations (in this case thin door, nails, etc.

[@ItsMicobs]

Just had to do something similar last week, I use thin plastic shims the way you use the cardboard 👍🏻 it always comes out cleaner that way

[@321981jdm]

Happy to see I'm not the only one. Hey! I'm not a frickin carpenter here!!

[@BoredLockpicker]

Nice work man! I've at this 7 years now and I still hate working on these old doors/frames! you make it look easy!

[@petewoodfine2100]

Hi Jason. Happy 4th of July to you Kim and family. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Very tidy job too,.

[@carllewis2207]

Awesome job Jason! Thank you for sharing.

[@spontanvideok246]

Wooow. So beautyfull Job. Very Amazing NEW Lock.👍👌👌

[@johnteague136]

Hey the mini dinky pliers come to the rescue 🇺🇸 .. very thorough install.. thanks for letting us tag along.. Happy Independence Day to you and the Mrs.😎🇺🇸

[@geraldskinner63]

Happy 4th Jason! I recently got into restoring these old mortise locks. Once you buff off some of the old paint etc, the plates and knobs reveal beautiful American metal and some with ornate etchings. I clean/repair them down to the springs and plan to retro-fit all of the interior doors in my house with them. Each room will have its own skeleton key as well. My Daughter gave me a beautiful old copper knob mortise for Father's Day that is epic. Thanks for the Vid!

[@selock]

Oh I recognized this cheap set right away :) the Phillips screw in the knob is a dead giveaway 😂 $20 Ilco type kit, I do wonder what the original was though! Shame I couldn’t come along before now ;)

[@pjdambra]

I do a lot of those old doors. I can’t help but to think every time I do one that the hardware is worth more than the door itself. Those wraps make a great solid lock with the latch mounted metal to metal.

[@zach2763]

I've found for F-series knobs that the Lab plug follower for Schlage (LFT000) has perfect curved tips that match the ovals on those compressible cylinders. Though I suppose the best follower is the one you actually have in front of you. :) Great video!

[@misslady8848]

How are you securing the latchplate with a gaping hole in the door? For me, there was nothing for the screwes to screw into. Or maybe I need shorter screws?🤔

[@selock]

Some wrap plates are designed to go over the latch and have a flat inside, which is probably what you got if you purchased from a box store. These wrap plates (Don-Jo brand) have a threaded nut and recessed face so the latch goes on the outside for it. The machine (threaded) screws come with it and attach the latch to the body of the wrap. Any of the flat face type won't work for this type of job unless you pop rivet the latch to the inside of the flat style wrap

[@dasledogg64]

I had the exact same question. I had this huge 3x5 hole and didn't know I'd I needed to fill it. My face plate does have the recessed face to handle the situation.

[@allentito2145]

Thank you. I have to do the same thing tomorrow. I was wondering how to get it done. Thanks good work!

[@LockPickingPatrolman]

Very cool video as always! Now I’ll have that cardboard trick up my sleeve to show the new boss lol!

[@freqgirl]

We have that same lock on our back door. I am going to do what you did here and get rid of it because the doorknob keeps coming off. It's broken and needs to be fixed. I was told by our old maintenance guy that it couldn't be replaced without replacing the whole door. Obviously he was either lazy or full of shit. We own the house now and things are finally getting fixed correctly verses the cheap way.

[@DoughHutch]

Nice job. With the donjo you don’t have to fill the void to gain stability. 👍🏽

[@lockWK-ij4vu]

Fantastic piece of work. IMO ! I would have definitely went wrap on that door, as I usually do go wrap, I feel I get better strength don't know why but I do.

[@selock]

*door crumbles & falls apart, wrap plate stays put ;)

[@evilarchconservative2952]

My apartment door had the old mortice lock taken out but they left the knob in place. Then they installed a deadbolt (with a wrap) in the same location as this door.

[@ivanobar1]

What do you think of customizing a piece of wood to fill the mortised gap. I was thinking of adding saw dust and glue to fill any voids and tapping my customized wood into the mortised space. I might add a few wood dowels across the width of the door where my customized is, for insurance. Then I’d proceed to hole saw for standard lock. The door is in good shape, so would rather not add a plate.

[@selock]

Absolutely valid! I don’t like using wraps at all but on some properties/doors it’s not worth the carpentry. I would never willingly put one of these on a nice door.

[@ivanobar1]

Thanks. I appreciate you were fixing the door to your client’s desire. Good vid showing all the steps.

[@warrenklein7817]

When my 1930s house was renovated in the 1980s, several of the mortice locks were changed over by filling in the gap with builders bog. When set, install new lock as for a new door. Still working.

[@ivanobar1]

Is it like bondo? I filled a mortise lock soace in a door with a customized piece of wood, a little saw dust, and gorilla glue. I wanted to maintain the doors integrity and strength. But if builder’s bog does that I’ll save myself the trouble if customizing a piece.

[@kerry5972]

Kwikset used to make a modernization kit, not sure anymore for those type mortise locks. But actually that way looks easier.

[@selock]

Sometimes this is, sometimes the modernization kit is a better choice. Pre existing edge damage & good gap, so went with wrap

[@cherylhelsby481]

I am having to change my locks which are these type. I have looked for this wrap plate and cannot find it in the stores near me here in Canada. May I know where I can look to find them? This video is the most suitable for me as a newbie. Thank you!

[@selock]

hmm not sure about Canada but it should be listed under door wrap, door wrap plate, remodeler plate, etc. Just make sure you get the door thickness, and backset (measurement from edge of door to center of lock) correct

[@lemonan5244]

If the screws on the outside of the door were removed, would that compromise the security of the lock? Also, is it worth filling in the hollow core left by the removal of the mortise lock? I have a front door im planning to replace the mortise with an updated lock.

[@selock]

no, because the locks are still "clamping" it on the door. The only way it "might" is if there are large holes all the way out to the point if you did bend the corner back, you ""might"" have access to the latch to do something, but this is a very unlikely scenario. Yes if you are good at carpentry then by all means fill in whatever you would like. The most ideal way to do this aesthetically would be to patch everything and paint over, then re-prep for the lock

[@lmars5933]

Best videos on ytube Jason very NICELY done my friend..I was looking at that thinking how nice it could be refinished. But ther was more lead in that paint then most batteries have lol lol..and the refinishing cost would be astronomical..😎did you know pre 70 house has lead paint ..😎

[@selock]

Oh yeah :) I’m sure more than one of those layers is lead!

[@tainguyen-ff7qq]

Where do you buy Schlage keyed knob with with wrap plate

[@213gixxer]

Did the striker plate come with it?

[@selock]

@@213gixxer no the wrap plate just comes by itself

[@jamespetkwitz8737]

Personally I like using the do-jo remodeler kit that come with 3 seperate pieces. The wrap plates are good in a pinch when there damage. But I think it ends up being s nicer looking job in the ends. I've managed to stock up on the older kwikset kits before the stops making them.. those work nice in but locks

[@selock]

I thought about using that but since this one had existing edge damage I decided to go wrap :)

[@luissantiago1832]

Thank you for a great video

[@jmr]

Was there a typo in the description? I keep reading the description over and over. A tubular lock? That's an interesting choice. I don't see one though.

[@selock]

I changed it seeing the confusion. I meant tubular style lock vs cylindrical style

[@jmr]

@@selock Yep, I was very confused.

[@jmr]

@@selock Funny part is I was excited to see such a strange installation! 🤣

[@BD90..]

I thought I was seeing things lol

[@3nertia]

With the shape of that building, door, paint, lock, and latch, I'm unsure why someone would even bother to pay someone to fix the latter two first xD

[@213gixxer]

What’s the model Number of the kit

[@cold2d]

beautiful

[@garyfarnsworth]

actually it is 1 3/8. where to get ?

[@selock]

Most anywhere stocks them, even Home Depot & such. The finish you are looking for may be harder to locate but they are usually available at many online places. Just check all your measurements :)

[@kimrobinson728]

can you talk to me at your convenience about some old locks

[@jhatten1]

Thank you!

[@kimrobinson728]

did you dye your hair

[@selock]

No :) I've never dyed my hair. Bleached it once and went blonde but that was like 20 years ago

[@jeffmoss26]

hayy gurl

[@cardiffpicker1]

Shame decent mortice locks are not more popular in the US, would have looked better and been a better lock.

[@selock]

*nods :( Even the “more expensive” versions while “pretty” are made pretty horribly

[@WiliamBennettwildarbennett]

Hey any of the #LOCKFORCE crew recognize these door locks from Saturday's Bucket Toss? On and as for the K'Nip"X Ad Promo Top Shelf Billing! And Yes they do WORK that well! Oh as for seeing thur muddy water We all NOTICED THE BALDING SPOT on the back of your Head LOL

[@dylantube3232]

At some point you just buy a new door right? Lol

[@adamnoman4658]

Wouldn't hire ya', buddy, if I didn't have to. - -

[@selock]

@@adamnoman4658 sounds great to me 🙄

[@Jamorant12grizz]

interesting

[@Ticonderoga12]

Ummm. I think u shud jus replace the whole door and frame buddy

[@BD90..]

That is a old door

[@selock]

It is! Might be time for the owners to consider a new door for sure. Bonus, they already have the hardware ready to go

[@gsltbjoe929]

Cut paint first

[@ILVT_Plumbing]

in think this entire door and frame needs replacing

[@garyfarnsworth]

where to find a wrap plate? my doors are 1 1/2 inch inside doors

[@selock]

If they are truly 1.5 inches, you wont find a wrap plate for that. They pretty much only come 1 3/8" or 1 3/4"