Cooler Master Must Be Stopped

[@phillipzan2005]

My biggest complaint about the cases in 2024 is them giving use one USB-C port.

[@stupiddog79]

Absolutely agree, at this point, 2x USB-A and 4x USB-C at the front make more sense.

[@xXEPIKgamerXx]

Most mobos only have one USB C header, unless you want to covert your 5Gb 3.0s to C somehow. The actual problem is that most front USB C ports(OR rather the cables) are only 3.2 gen 2(10Gbs) while most current gen mobos have have 3.2 2x2 (20Gbs) now. If anything they should be future proofing for USB4 (40Gbs) before the mobos get there.

[@Edward135i]

agree USB C is taking over in a big way, type A might actually die after 30 years.

[@alistermunroe4955]

@@xXEPIKgamerXxVery true. From what I know, the only company that has multiple usb c ports in their motherboards is Asus. The ROG boards have two I believe. Even their case the Hyperion has two usb c ports at 20Gbps.

[@phillipzan2005]

@@xXEPIKgamerXx and you are not wrong. I would be okay with USB 3.0 USB-C ports. I just much prefer USB-C ports. It can be a real pain sometimes trying to get the USB-A port to plug in.

[@SerpentXTech]

Good luck, Paul and Joe, with everything. Appreciate you guys, take care and thanks for content

[@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature]

Also have fun. We care more about the fun.

[@markmanderson]

the mighty 2800 also has the UPS connector power lead socket type, very cool power delivery to it from the higher rated cabling, a normal iec lead on 240v would melt at that level of input :D

[@allancoelho6905]

Which is weird because 240v should mean half the current, copper can handle that

[@WarHawk-]

Square tubing for water cooling is going to be a study in fitting leakage.

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

Nah not really

[@Nobe_Oddy]

DUDE!!! You didn't mention the MOST AMAZING PART about that m.2 Vapor Chamber... those little fins are HOLLOW and PART OF THE VAPOR CHAMBER!!! You can see on the flat side that it's a vapor chamber too... that is AMAZING!!!

[@technologicalelite]

Does anyone have a video on that? That sounds REALLY interesting!

[@TheZaomei]

Der 8auer does that, a few days ago.

[@TheZaomei]

Der 8auer does that, a few days ago.

[@TheZaomei]

Der 8auer does that, a few days ago.

[@TheZaomei]

Der 8auer does that, a few days ago.

[@khyron6]

I like the HAF cases. Maybe we can get a Build video on one. Thanks Paul you Rock. :)

[@Gavrev]

Nice to see what Cooler Master are tinkering with - those PSU's are nice and they seem to be reaching for quite crazy specs. I had a CPU upgrade recently, making good on the AM4 upgrade path.. never thought I'd get to it but I made the jump from my initial 1600 to a more recent 5700x, all on the same B350F board, and happily still rocking my Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition to tame it.

[@wayland7150]

What the PC was designed for, upgrade forever.

[@garyhome7101]

Interesting idea about square tubing and it looks cool! Pedantically, a water molecule is triangular in geometry so maybe water moves slightly more readily through the square tubing rather than the round tubing. I say this because I worked as a forest firefighter long ago, and dealt with long hose lays on steep slopes, which presented hydraulic problems when forced to pump water up slope. The fix? Simple detergent in the water to break surface tension.

[@10001000101]

I love the push for passively cooled PSU's.

[@Tjocksnorriss]

Why? Makes them larger and usually it's not the thing that makes the most noise.

[@happydawg2663]

They've been around for a while, I got a passively cooled PSU from more than 15 years ago. But with a big slow fan that stops at low temps, passively cooled PSUs don't make much sense IMO. I'm more impressed by the 2800W PSU, that's powa.

[@nopenope7088]

Psu’s of now aren’t even audible

[@POVwithRC]

​@@Tjocksnorriss Because they still fit in most cases and any noise is bad noise 😊

[@jamieferguson935]

With the amount of heat from the i9s in particular we need to cut down on that power use and heat its crazy.

[@Balrog132]

2800Watts .... crazy. If you plan to fully utilize that, you will need a dedicated power circuit, because you won't have much more power to spare after that before the breaker trips.

[@CaptainJonathan]

Indeed US circuits are usually 1800-2400W. These power supplies are getting nuts.

[@Casper042]

If you look carefully it's 200-240v but also using a C19 cable which is rated for 15amps. On some blade chassis I work with regularly they top out around 3400w @ 240v. This isn't far off from that...

[@Nobe_Oddy]

I LOVE ALL THOSE CASES!!!!! WOW!!! they have KILLED IT this year!!!! But is that REAL WOOD or Metal with a vinyl wrap??? I'm thinking it's real wood... but no matter IT LOOKS GREAT!! I just wish would could have seen the interior..... AND that SFF is prolly the BEST WAY to build an SFF... with a custom AIO and designed from the ground up.... I would get it for my next build most likely... but not until Zen 5 comes out

[@undefwun2135]

Oooh i love the squared off fittings... but June might be too late for me... well that sucks..

[@jpitt916]

8:24 well that's only at 12.6 amps. Most households could convert an existing outlet on 12/2 to a 20a 220v safely.

[@r25012501]

not a standard connection in USA... but in Australia 240v its ready to go :D

[@CyberbrainPC]

Thanks Paul for providing great coverage as always! I hope to see you again at PAX one day. I have a dedicated 240v circuit for my PC. Works extremely well!

[@brutus6574]

I'm not an electrician and only know enough about this stuff to embarrass myself but isn't European 220V a single phase 220 line and North American 240V, actually 2 - 120V lines which are 90 degrees out phase? Those shouldn't be the same thing. What kind of power supply do you have that uses North American 240V?

[@wayland7150]

@@brutus6574 The American electric is 240vac but arrives at the house via a transformer with a centre tap. The 120vac is when you use one side or the other side and the centre tap. That's what goes to lights and sockets. However the cooker, tumble dryer and other heavy loads do not use the centre tap but the two 'live' connections giving the full 240vac. It is possible to have actual 240vac sockets which would be fine for computers because they all accept it.

[@brutus6574]

@@wayland7150 Thanks for the explanation. I vaguely remember that now that you've mentioned it. Are these the wall sockets you occasionally see that have the live plug perpendicular to the return ? Are those 15/20AMP 240 vs the 40 AMP going to the dryer? I might have learned something new today Either way way I guess you need a special cord that doesn't come with a standard power supply,

[@wayland7150]

@@brutus6574 I don't have first hand experience of the American 240vac system so I don't know what the socket looks like. It will have the voltage printed on it if it's not the usual one. All computers will accept 240vac because the power supplies are designed to cope with a 90 to 240vac range so they work with the electric in any country. The reason why the higher voltage is better is that you can draw the same power with less current. Current is what requires thicker cabling and stronger components. If you have equipment that draws over 3kw then you may need special cables. In the UK we can plug in equipment that draws 3kw.

[@Red24DryBones]

Looking foward to square tubes and more waterblock options

[@deathetech3070]

Hey Paul, nice running into you at Enermax booth - love the square watercooling stuff, can't wait to try and bend some

[@BogieRel]

So nothing from CM in regards to 12VO standard PSUs? MSI is working on the Pro B650 12VO WiFi and the Pro H610M 12VO MBs as well as at least one 12VO PSU to go along with them but you didn't mention anything from CM on this front. Minimizing MB connectors as well as cabling in a case is a plus so I would expect a number of companies to be coming out with similar products this year.

[@guillaumejoop6437]

The color changing cooler is really neat cause it offers a built in analog visual warning if your hardware is overheating. For example I have a layer in icue that changes all the led to red if CPU/GPU temps goes above 95/85°C. But I don't like the idea of having a software to monitor that

[@aidenhewson]

That masterhub is looking really nice. Will be interesting yo see what productivity integrations they add

[@jamieknight326]

The moveable sim seats look amazing. The main downside is the sheer amount of space they take up!

[@wayland7150]

I was imagining the person who would buy this over a Logitech G920. They'd have a fabulous house set back from the road with a wide sweeping gravel driveway and several supercars parked outside and a well lit garage with a Jaguar E Type. The many rooms of the rambling old property are huge with one dedicated to this racing sim.

[@xxsaintxseiyaxx]

Thanks for your awesome coverage Paul!

[@mleii1169]

Looks like you missed the CM NR200P V2. Maybe it wasn't there the day you filmed this? I saw someone else at CES show it. I was highly anticipating it and waiting on it as I really like the older one but it was missing USB C on the top/front panel. They added that, but disappointed it's now a riser and seems like it won't work with the air cooler I want to use. Really bummed as I was thinking we'd get an upgrade with at least USB C and maybe other improvements, but they really limited it's use. Now back to square 1 for figuring out a case, I might just go with the older version and either mod a USB C in or just use the one on the back of the motherboard. I REALLY like the size and ease of building in it as I bought the older one for my daughter to build in and when I helped her I got extremely jealous of the case. LOL

[@marcase2003]

Thanks for the quick views Paul & Joe: square tubing into round pegs - that'll be fun in a build. Have a good time, looking fwd to more coverage.👍🏻

[@rickh8380]

I really like Cooler Master products. I use them in my rigs. Can't wait to see what all of the vendors bring in 2024. Thanks Paul for your coverage of the events.

[@flikflak24]

I like that they are useing clear path servo's for the sim rigs

[@a.j.haverkamp4023]

1:30 The bends are all round tubing, not square tubing.

[@Eddie1536]

Holy cow 2800w psu mmmmm I'm so hard.

[@michaelcarson8375]

With square tubing I feel they missed an opportunity to add a heatsink to it..

[@ElZamo92]

Square tubes are only trouble… they generate more drag on the flow of coolant, plus they are WAY harder to seal, so say hi to a bunch of leaks… why do you think plumbing has been cylindrical since forever?

[@SkylerB17]

goddammit i want the fucking Shark. I dig Cooler Masters cases. to be fair, only had hands on experience with 2, my M500P and my buddy's old Mastercase or Masterbox 500 or something? the old full tower case with the acrylic side window with a 200mm fan mounted in it with a duct direct to the GPU. But theyre both good cases. that HAF white tho looks fire, im looking for all white components for a future build.

[@ericthedesigner]

I also loved the Cosmos2 cases. I built so many cad machines in that case!

[@TSRB87]

I would get a qube 500 but i wish the wood panels had an option to come unfinished so i could do that myself but ill just sand it and stain it the colour i want

[@ejtaylor73]

Wouldn't the square tubing create such a harsh bend for the liquid to flow past that pumps will have to work harder to push the liquid through? Meaning pumps will have to get a boost in power or they're going to burn out a lot faster. The cases look good, other than the wood one, just not a fan of the cheese grater look, if it had a different design it might be better for me. Some neat looking gadgets that I don't need coming out.

[@undefwun2135]

The bends won't be square. They'll still follow an arc.

[@ReclaimerTyphoon]

I cut 200mm fan holes into my HAF-912 back in 2011. Still using that case. I might never get a new case - I'll just keep modding this one until I'm dead/until PCs are built into our brains directly.

[@zodwraith5745]

I like that Cooler Master experiments well outside of the typical fans and AIOs of many other outlets. Not everything can end up being a hit of course but you have to appreciate them at least trying different things in such a stagnant market.

[@guillaumejoop6437]

Their watercooling stuff looks a lot like EK stuff, did they outsource to them ? And the reservoir looks like the Corsair one, might be the same supplier

[@nimrodery]

Should have put dice pips on the side of those D6 fittings.

[@ericthedesigner]

I still have 2, 1300 watt cooler master master watt PSU's from 2015 but I can't use them because I don't have the cables, long story. I wish I could send them in and get new cables, they just sit there. also I can't use them because they are pre-dual 8pin cpu power.

[@lilpain1997]

I actually like the square tubing a lot, would love to be able to make a build with it.

[@Ruiso7]

I don't think that was to bend the new square tubbing.

[@1234enzor]

2800w psu, my outlet can only do 2300w, how do i feed that bad boy?

[@jasontechlord]

2800W!? No one tell nVidia!

[@ByrnesPCGarage]

Does 220v in other countries use two phases?

[@TECHiSuppose]

5:30 Oh, that's a nice looking case! I like the idea of flat pack. 7:20 That silent PSU looks nice too.

[@CyberClu]

It's to bad you couldn't include some music audio from Huey Lewis It's Hip to Be Square, song.

[@MrAcuta73]

Never thought I'd see a point where I would strongly consider running 220v to my computer. Yikes. 😅

[@_Johnald]

I've wondered when someone would create square tubing. And now here we are. What a time to be alive.

[@snipermerc]

Need that chair setup with a HOTAS setup for Mechwarrior :)

[@yourhandlehere1]

The sim chairs, especially for flight, need the screen to be moving WITH the chair.

[@oryxified1430]

Leave them to their devices long enough and they'll make RGB penile extensions

[@yourhandlehere1]

You're late.

[@eldibs]

While you're in Vegas, stop by Gordon Ramsay's burger place if you haven't been before. It's a good burger.

[@madjimms]

I can't be the only person who thinks the wood or "wood" looks really cheesy and ugly....

[@Blustride]

Clear Opaque coolant 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@bersig]

Love the flatpack, wood-accent case.

[@chadmckean9026]

10:54 really a thermal camera pointed at a heat sync, Steve would like to have a word with someone...

[@MaheerKibria]

So I don't know how I feel about their water cooling. I mean performance and cost are going to be the main determining factor for the radiator and water block. But aesthetically, the radiator and CPU water block look really similar to EK. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but isn't great either. I feel like the radiator is a missed opportunity in general it is clear that the side panels are screwed in so just selling them with two black and two silver that you can swap out would be better rather than the half-and-half they are doing now. Especially, if they also sold additional siding separately with additional colors and finishes. I also don't like that it is just the sides and not also the ends but it isn't a deal breaker. I also want more finishes on the fittings. When it comes to water cooling I feel like options are important. And while the square tubing is certainly unique I don't feel sold on it.

[@LordGryllwotth]

8:83 Neat! Great PSU for future Intel setup!

[@Jazzyluvsyou100]

i love blocky and block aesthetics, those watercooling parts are exactly what i like

[@alibargh]

Positive vibe, thanks Paul 😊

[@wauzer1]

00:36 Looks like Subaru Impreza STi intercoolers. You know it's serious, if PC parts need that kind of cooling.

[@ratonilla]

Where does the square tube go ? That's right, it goes in the square hole.

[@vaeloreonari7516]

Thanks for not providing 3 -8 pin connectors on the 2800 psu for AMD!🙄

[@AakeTraak]

I'm I too old when I don't care how pretty my computer look inside? Cooling and airflow sure...

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

a plug in touch screen display with the buttons at the bottom would solve many Flight Sim builders problems.

[@TwstedTV]

Lots of really cool stuff. Thanks 🤓👍

[@itsdeonlol]

Best CES Coverage this year! Thanks Paul & Joe!

[@TheTechnoPilot]

Wait Paul, you said clear coolants that don’t have anything to clog up your loop over time, but they all stated on the bottles they were opaque! 😝😂

[@Frenoir]

only PSU i have had fail is the a cooler master PSU it failed at the 5 year mark

[@Surms41]

That Cube 500 is looking really appealing! 5:15

[@TheGameBench]

Square fittings and tubing... very 80s. And who knew such an interesting case would come out of the Q300.

[@k3nnyw0w]

idk anything about sim racing tho that racing setup looked so nice

[@navarropuff187]

i dig the mythril line watercooling kit by CM. they must've have gotten the idea with the mines of Moria.

[@x1625]

Nice reporting. Ty.

[@kensg]

Great review Paul, I know you have a lot to cover, but I wanted to know about new SFX power supply’s coming out soon. Great stuff.. thanks

[@shanent5793]

The 2800W PSU says 200-240V, which covers standard 208-240V circuts in North America

[@RyTrapp0]

Gotta have the outlet for it though

[@shanent5793]

Just like every other PC

[@shanent5793]

North America has standardized 208/240V outlets. A NEMA 6-15 or 6-20 would be suitable

[@KenS1267]

In regards to flat pack cases, if someone made a good quality flat pack ATX case I'd buy a bunch. I build PC's to order as a side business and it is pretty rare that the customer wants a specific case. What it normally comes down to is what fits in the budget, what the customer likes the looks of or what I choose. I frequently choose the case I have previously built in and know it will be easy to build in. Cases are too bulky for me to stock any. I always have to buy them for each build. If I was able to stock a case and establish familiarity with the build process it would reduce how long it takes me to build a PC, assuming the time to assemble the case is not onerous. I'm sure there are other people who build PC's as side gigs who are in the same situation.

[@bankoofer]

I was hoping to see more motherboards with the option to connect power on their backsides.

[@bankoofer]

...At ces, not cooler master's.

[@kevinarndt2011]

I miss attending and covering CES and the crazy parties after dark

[@sc00bieskylin34]

loving all your coverage, soo much content from Paul and team and looks like yall enjoying it too.

[@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature]

Nooo cooler master no.... It was the fins changing colour that made it cool. Who gives a damn about a colour changing lid? We have LCDs.

[@smokeyninja9920]

10:02 Might actually be interesting if they integrate an Airjet

[@breakingmichigan]

square tubing would look sweet in a boxy fish tank case

[@DolpgirlAkaGina]

Cooler Master has some really nice things coming out like the Wooden PC case and the MasterHub, not just streamers and content creators but also musicians and producers would totally take full advantage of it. And might I add, Suto is such a talented artist. 🥰

[@shadowminor]

The 2800w would not sell well for desktops in the us.

[@irdmoose]

It's so cool that CoolerMaster partnered with EK on their water blocks. Though EK's designs are pretty old now, and in some cases aren't the best performers.

[@scudsturm1]

not long and u are going to need 400V CEE outlet for a 5k W PSU

[@kennythedragon47]

that 2800 watt psu could possibly use a NEMA 14-50 plug in the US

[@rekareaper]

The 2800w PSU would be awesome if it is a digital PSU with things like GaN transistors and other super high efficiency components.

[@conza1989]

Paul! 4 computers, 1 2800W PSU, in a massive case, imagine that!

[@SamuHell782]

I don't need a SFX PSU, but i'd love to build a system with one!

[@RyTrapp0]

I keep trying to talk myself into dropping solid cash on a nice 1000w SFX power supply - painful to pull the trigger on, but it should last me the next decade or so while not limiting my potential case options at all. Got an Enermax Revolution DF 850(definitely a 'decade' power supply too) a couple years ago though, so I guess I need to talk myself into building a second system again before I talk myself into the 1000w SFX PSU...

[@dukebracton6077]

Always enjoy your coverage of the shows. Thank you :)

[@jimsvideos7201]

That drum stool has _possibilities._

[@dropbars]

Almost didn't click on this because of the super click bait tile and image making it seem like something catastrophic was happening with cooler master parts. But I wanted to see just incase. Really contemplating putting this on my "Don't Recommend Channel" KZbin list. Beware content creators, there is a trend spreading online with viewers who are using the "Don't Recommend Channel" function for click bait titles and images. Or for those that use the "Gamer Bait" shocked forehead slap for their thumbnail image.

[@JunaidTheGrenade]

I built in the cooler master qube 500 flatpack literally like 4 days ago and I love it !!!

[@CaptainJonathan]

Time to run some dedicated 30A circuits...

[@HappyHands.]

"Cool Master must be stopped!" ALSO "Sponsored by Cool Master"

[@a1racer441]

Cooler master brought some awesome stuff this year super excited for their lineup the m.2 coolers especially.

[@bent540]

fail! they called it morbius when they could have gone "Morbin time"