Cooler Master NR200 Large Air Coolers: Featuring the U12S, U12A, Scythe Fuma 2, and the C14S!

[@AndreiE190]

DA MACHINE: You are the ONLY ONE as of now who made the most comprehensive analysis of NR200, and you have helped so many of us who are still waiting on the case itself to shape up the right cooling components of our builds. I cannot thank you enough for the tremendous amount of work you’ve done with these series. I’m sure I’m expressing the voice of the entire SFF community and NR200 fans in particular. Thank you!

[@MachinesMore]

Love it! I'm stoked that all of you are enjoying this, and there's still a lot more to come. This case certainly deserves the following it's building up and we absolutely need to give it the attention it deserves so that improvements, revisions, and competing products follow in the future, the future is bright for SFF!

[@AndreiE190]

Machines & More absolutely. By far this is the best case I’ve come across so far, and trust me, I’ve been watching the evolution of SFF cases for quite some time now, researching EVERY single case that was manufactured at this point. Considering it’s affordability AND hardware compatibility, this is by far one of the most accommodating cases on the market right now. No wonder it sparks so much interest! Don’t stop experimenting with it😎! Looking forward to the 3000 series videos now from u! Cheers! And again - great work.

[@AndreiE190]

Machines & More also, there should be an equivalent to Cerberus X (just slightly larger than NR200) with full ATX boards support, yet implementing a SFF so we could take full advantage of the hardware. Cerberus and it’s bigger brother X-version lack radiator support. While it’s possible, the options are limited that’s the reason why I ended up NOT going with it.

[@xSabinx1]

@@MachinesMore Can I ask, with the C14S is it better to have the fan on the top side of the heatsink instead of on the side panel? Also I was thinking of putting a fan next to it on the side panel but as exhaust to help get rid of GPU heat, that woudn't megatively affect CPU right?

[@gctdonyre]

@@MachinesMore Could you do a review on the 2020 update of the Dark Rock TF?

[@thenowak9053]

Man, your work on this case is simply beyond words. Thank you thousand times for all this comprehensive info.

[@MachinesMore]

You are very welcome!

[@martinquintana2458]

I feel the same way, thank you very much! I just subscribed

[@michaeltyc3479]

@@MachinesMore thanks a lot indeed! I have migrated parts from the TU150 into the nr200 last week, since the GPU (3080 XC3 from Evga) was just getting choked with high thermals as a result. CPU temps (5800x) were great when paired with the Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH edition, which makes sense, considering the airflow of the case. I have slapped a single NF-A12 on now for intake since a second Scythe fan did not fit the case in the back for the pull/exhaust with the I Aorus x570 mobo. 2 slim Scythe Kaze flex are mounted under the GPU. 1 included top fan as exhaust. Aesthetically I would love a 2 fan exhaust in the top, so not sure how to approach that yet. Results for now: GPU temps under stress load are 7-9 (!!!) degrees lower than in the old case, with less fan noise. CPU is cool under load as well, although a bit jumpy in gaming, which is known for the model. So very happy so far. But just can't stand that there's only 1 Cpu fan on the tower, making me think it can get even cooler in there. So today, the C14s is coming in, and can't wait to see what it'll do in comparison.

[@stockscrypto101]

@@MachinesMorethe phantom spirit can fit and has better thermals and is quieter

[@shaun3133]

Being an NR200 owner this channel is definitely appreciated. Excellent quality work.

[@inmypaants]

29:43 dude this was a really great piece of advice for 3080 (FE) buyers! 100% people in that category concerned about air cooling should pick up the C14S!

[@ingridreyes3123]

Thanks!

[@awedmore5013]

Sir - your channel is the premier location for all you need to know about the NR200 and cooling. Bravo.

[@DStantonDPT]

WIth the recent explosion in popularity of this case, and the addition of the thermalright phantom spirit 120 and silver soul 135 to the market, have you considered revisiting this and updating the cooling results? Both are high performance dual tower coolers that come with fairly decent stock fans and are showing cooling potential capable of keeping a 12900k under Tmax

[@laggmonstret]

He goes from clarity to clarity! Just deliver one top video after another, I can't thank You enough for Your deep tests and an open ear for suggestions. The NH-C14s does indeed look very promising in combination with a RTX 3080 FE. If I can snag a card I will definately look into including it into my build :) Keep up the good work and hope your channel will explode with subscribers, you're worth it :)

[@Luminary09]

I came across this case yesterday after I realised that my Nitro+ 6800xt (on preorder) won’t fit my preferred RVZ01 which I liked due to the slim profile and great thermals for ITX. I am building a high end gaming rig which is to be tucked behind my living room really so there aren’t many options. Most of the ITX cases wouldn’t accommodate a 55mm thick card without compromising thermals on both GPU and CPU. After I learnt about this card, I have been watching your videos non-stop. Never before I have seen anyone done such a comprehensive analysis of the case. Can’t thank you enough for answering all my potential questions. Keep up the great work.

[@CapnSnackbeard]

Your extensive coverage of this case and FE combo is so good snd hits such a good sweet spot! Thank you!

[@fred_derf]

Great detailed analysis. The only thing I would like to have seen added would be the VRM thermals. It would appear that the C14S would have the best VRM thermals as it's the only one blowing air across the motherboard but it would be nice to have confirmation.

[@faux_grey]

Thanks to your videos, I've made this exact setup with NR200, C14S & deshrouded 3080, works like a dream.

[@Bound4Earth]

If you are ballsy you can try 4mm standoffs or modding the side panel if you already have a larger cooler. Just throwing out alternatives for people like me, that already had an old NH-D15 and didn't want to waste money on another cooler. I fell in love with this case and made it work. I chose to mod the side panel, but have seen a few cases of using shorter standoffs that worked just fine. The 4mm standoffs will cause some minor I/O displacement, but you should still be able to use everything just fine. Just be aware that it might cause issues with clearance for M.2 drives and you have to ensure the motherboard doesn't come close to the metal. You also have to ensure you have shorter screws that work in the shorter standoffs or use some kind of spacer. The modded side panel can actually turn out kind of cool. I provided an example below, not my mod btw. www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/igeyxv/cut_holes_in_my_nr200_to_fit_a_nhd15s/

[@hansdoreen]

Best video for NR200 air cooled setup on youtube! Good job, just what I wanted to see.

[@MachinesMore]

Glad it helped!

[@jmasse713]

31:00 That's weird, I have a NR200, and C14S. I definitely was able to fit a 92mm fan as rear exhaust, along with 2 120mm slim fans up top. Great video!

[@justTYPH00N]

hey man, I was wondering that too, thanks for that info, I might buy the C14S then. The reason is most likely you mainboard, where the mount is a bit lower. Can you tell me which one you have? And how are the termals?

[@kamata93]

Dude… recent subscriber here but with one video you answered all of my questions!!! I will definitely be getting this case for my next PC. I have been looking for small ITX case for a while now and this seems the best case overall out there. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[@GuyGamer1]

Such a high quality video. I was looking at getting a Fuma 2 for this case. Then I read about if it's better to intake or exhaust. Not only have you covered that, you've covered the optimal fan placement too for each cooler! And with DECIBEL NORMALIZED RESULTS! Thank you so much.

[@Oh_Sully23]

Quite happy with my Fuma2 cooling an R5 3600 on an MSI B450i. I have dual 120mm fans up top exhausting with 3-4mm clearance between the grill and the Fuma2. No rendering, just gaming and normal web browsing, so I run 2 120mm fans intaking under the Sapphire 5700XT to help GPU temps as the CPU isn't too stressed in the games I play. I've gradually shrunk my system down from a big mATX case to a Define NanoS and now the NR200, and ditched all my watercooling gear. Fantastic series of videos mate!

[@MachinesMore]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Crftbt]

Would be nice to see which coolers have come out since this video that might be good options. :)

[@brownishblue]

Thank you for this video, I already got a system with U12A and was hoping it would fit in a smaller case than I got now! Thank you so much!

[@samgoff5289]

Good job man, another great video. Very in depth testing. Keep it up with this level of detail and your channel will definitely grow!

[@leo1739]

Amazing coverage of the compatibility of this case. Might be of interest for you to check out the Cryorig H7 Ultra! It's a particularly interesting tower cooler for the NR200 as its only 145mm high which might allow you to fit the side bracket.

[@lantern214]

It's now possible to fit a D15-S now. There are a few modders out there who 3D printed spacers to create space for larger cpu towers and top hats for the nr200p to use a 240mm aio at the top. Along with atx psu brackets to fit an atx psu (max 150mm) inside.

[@michaelhollingshead972]

Love to see the same test with the Scythe Big Shuriken Rev. 3

[@kickin123]

super indepth review on this very popular case. Thanks and welldone!

[@davidlan5698]

Super helpful. Please make more videos like these. Screw the fancy lighting, the BS sponsorships, you're vids are on point. Great Work!!!

[@backpain100]

This is THE BEST and most comprehensive video on cooler compatibility and performance for the NR200. The quality is unexpectedly good. Great job.

[@eddyx92x5]

I bought the C14S after you recommendet it.This was a good decision. I paired the cooler with a i7 1170K. The cooler keeps the CPU cool and does this job relatively quiet for the tiny NR200P. Yes you can hear the fan spinning but it is ok for the dimensions of the case. Overall I am happy with the cooler. Thank you :)

[@rakatitan]

why I never found you faster man... I love air cooler, and sff. This vid is a real blessing

[@Chris-ev6cp]

Tbh I'd love to see with with the dark rock TF included aswell

[@LastSecBloomer]

Yeah, it would be interesting to compare it to C14s.

[@AndreiE190]

Chris 8892 yep. Sure looks like a good contender for the job. The problem with TF is compatibility issues with a lot of boards (interference with the first dimm slot in particular). Be careful before you buy. Check out their website for motherboard compatibility (they have a mobo check tool).

[@S1nw1th1n]

I think it wont fit in cooler master nr200

[@AndreiE190]

Anique Waheed Abbasi it sure will. The case is not a problem. Some mobos are.

[@warabi-mvh967]

I have nr200 with darkrock tf

[@Demonwicked]

I accidentally had the C14s on my ATX rig before moving to nr200p and this confirmed that I dont need to change it out, thank you for a great indepth comparison!

[@MachinesMore]

You're just one step ahead of yourself! It won't be at its best with the glass panel but with the vented panel it's awesome.

[@jpbier]

Just wanna say thanks for this video! I came from a full-tower ATX setup but took your C14S recommendation to finally downsize to an NR200 and I'm really happy with it! I used front mount for the PSU though so I could mount 2x140mm fans on the C14S plus a 3.5" HDD on the PSU bracket and ended up with even better CPU deltas. For the C14S, I had the stock Noctua on the bottom and an Arctic Bionix 140 on top. My Asus B550i mobo also had a lower mounting position so I managed to put a second 120x25 top rear exhaust fan in there too, though I put a low noise adapter on it so that (theoretically) the top front exhaust would pull more of the GPU exhaust away from the C14S.

[@ZuluKing91]

Really interesting. Im looking to make the switch from full-tower ATX to the NR200 aswell. Got myself some 140mm fans from noctua so that would be great to use that. I'm interested in the looks of your case now. Might it be possible for you to sent some pictures to show how you've done that?

[@chillkyle]

I thank you very much for pointing out the HDD bracket compatibility! It is super helpful.

[@iPh3x]

Purchased U12A. Case NR200P. Mother board : 490i Unify from MSI. TG is far from closing. Vented pannel closes perfectly without bulging. Can tell if heatpipes touch the pannel, but if it does, there is no stress. Had Mugen5 for short time, not U12A. Noctua's cooler is much better. Temps are way lower for i9 10900 non k with power limits removed. With noctua ~70 (thermal paste NT-H1), with scythe up to high 80 ( stock scythe thermal paste) when testing in Cinebench r23. Mugen 5 was fully compatible with TG pannel.

[@Andrew-cp7mc]

Thanks for the effort trying out different configurations! Gives me some ideas when my Scythe Fuma 2 arrives; will probably replace the fans like you did with Noctua ones.

[@rektorpwr2006]

Fantastic and very informative test! Especially I love to see all custom fans configs that you did, it's making the fan & cooler choice a lot easier. Thank you!!

[@morbentfel]

production quality of the videos improving a lot love it

[@MachinesMore]

Cheers!

[@Ofangio]

Awesome! Please please do one with the glass panel!

[@kickin123]

Would love to see an analysis of best air cooler with the TG glass option - its tricky!

[@campitcher8507]

The one thing I've seen is Hardware Canucks put a Cooler Master 212 Evo in this case (also 158mm) and he said that it also fits with the glass

[@simonbaker7462]

Scythe Mugen 5 works in TG aswell.

[@thomasjackwelter]

@@simonbaker7462 what Mobo do you have?

[@simonbaker7462]

@@thomasjackwelter gigabyte b550 itx

[@oil3]

Not even planning on building a new PC until mid-2021 (time to put down the ol' i5-2500k), but your videos have been super informative and fun to watch! Thanks for all the great content.

[@MachinesMore]

You're welcome. You know, next year is going to be absolutely fantastic for building. The 3060 to 3090 should all be out, in fact a 1600 series may even be out at that point, which will be an absolute steal if they stick to the same price point- figure it will be 2070 super like performance for $250ish. Then you'll also have Zen 3... going to be great timing.

[@rafaelmarkbiares9938]

If only my subscription would count as 1 million. this guy deserves more

[@MachinesMore]

Worth a million to me! Thanks pal.

[@wolfganglonien2093]

These were exactly the tips & recommendations I needed - thanks man! Really appreciated!

[@elijahj8101]

wow, I just got a NR200 to build a Ryzen 5 5900X + 6800XT system in and your vids really helped a ton on deciding how to set it up!

[@kristoffer4844]

Fantastic insight and presentation. Really impressive! Thank you!

[@kaitwee]

this video is gold. you just answered most of my question for my next build

[@MachinesMore]

Cheers!

[@premnikz]

Thank you so much now I finally can go for NHU12A

[@martinbuxton]

Absolutely great review and information on air cooling in the NR200. Its the case I am planning for my build and the information is top notch and no talk of RGB and how the case looks.

[@MachinesMore]

The next video will be about RGB options in this case and how to get the most lumens per dollar. :) Just kidding.

[@macmac4050]

Love the video ... really helping me decide on my build ... thanks

[@prockrog5219]

Thanks for all the extremely useful info on the NR200!

[@SeaSlug182]

Wanted to leave this here: I went with the C14S and was sill able to fit a 25x92mm fan in the back of the case with the blades just barely clearing the cooler heat pipes.

[@zeus1117]

I want to say big thank you for this video! High quality and priceless information!

[@MrAlefantos]

Easily one of the best reviewers right now on youtube. I hope you can make different case + cooler combos in the future. Keep it up!

[@MachinesMore]

I am glad you are enjoying it. Different cases are coming right up! Last few weeks of the year will be very interesting here for SFF enthusiasts.

[@mikfhan]

Excellent video! Hoping for a brief follow-up retest once AM5 Zen4 and Raptor Lake arrives :) especially with the power-hungry new GPUs also.

[@marcusohrvall3710]

Really great informative video, i will be using a c14s when i buy a nr200! you sir got a new subscriber! :)

[@MachinesMore]

Awesome, thank you!

[@espen990]

13:10 What if you modify the radiator panel by drilling holes where the pipe terminations are on the U12A? That way you'd be able to put a case fan on the right side of the radiator panel that feeds the U12A so that you can further protect the CPU from GPU exhaust the same way the C14S does it.

[@akotochris]

I'm using NR200 with Aorus B550i and NH-U12S and it fits without "bulging" and with OEM top fans.

[@shaun3133]

Been researching this case I’m glad I found your videos, damn I appreciate your excellent presentation.

[@jnavarra]

Dude thank you so much for this. It's helping me plan out my build so much.

[@grandpixel]

Thanks for doing all of this testing! It would be great if you could sum up all of your videos and just give a few recommendations. There's just too many hours of video here to watch it all. I recommend including benchmarks for 1) best low cost air cooling solution and configuration (maybe a $40-60 cooler, and 1-3 extra case fans ... whatever you can do for reasonable money while stopping before diminishing returns) and 2) best high end air cooler and case fan configuration (again while staying reasonable, 99% of people don't want to spend $100 in noctua case fans to gain 1 degree or 1 decibel), and then best aio water cooler and configuration... and I actually have ordered two NR200P cases, one black and one white... so it would be great to do the same final recommendations for these cases with glass, both horizontal and vertical gpu... I know this is a big ask but I think it will be helpful for a lot of people... and I know you have the data, lol

[@kyleivy7679]

Another great video as always, amazing work. One recommendation would be to add timestamped sections for the different coolers.

[@MachinesMore]

Done!

[@kyleivy7679]

@@MachinesMore Beautiful, thank you!

[@arthurvincentsimon5651]

I have been looking for a good air cooler for the nr200. I can finally stop my search and get the NH-C14S!

[@jbplayroom]

No words can express how thankful I am for these extensive analysis videos of the NR200. I couldn't find it anywhere else! Finding the best case scenario using tower coolers in the case is also quite appreciated, because well, the keyword in this statement is "best". As additional content, may I suggest experimenting with case fan configurations while using the stock cooler of the 3700X? I think the NR200 is more than capable enough to keep thermals in check. I could argue that many people who are checking out the NR200 are attracted mostly due to the price, hence, could be on a budget. Undoubtedly, the reach of the NR200 has gone beyond the realm of power users or performance enthusiasts because of that great price. I for one am wondering if I can just keep the NR200 stock fans (top and back), slap on the stock CPU cooler in the 3700X, then add a 120mm fan on the side bracket, blowing air from outside directly towards the CPU cooler. Will it throttle or will it be good enough? How does it compare to the best scenario? Sometimes I do wonder if there's too much content being made about the best case scenario, and not enough about the "cheap but good enough". Anyway, just my thoughts. Even if overlooked, I am genuinely appreciative of the work you have done so far and will not likely to change my decision of buying this case, as soon as I can do so locally. Seriously, thank you!

[@MachinesMore]

Well, thank you for that. I like to present a few options because everybody has different priorities. For the stock cooler, I will be looking at low profile cooling options so that's something that I will do in that installment. Based on what I can glean so far about airflow in this case, just stick the fan on the top. The top fans will partially intake from the side anyway, but the big thing is you want to exhaust the hot air out quickly, especially since you are pushing it towards the mobo. I have no doubt the stock cooler works fine, the question is how loud can your ears handle under load! I see absolutely no reason that you shouldn't start with the stock cooler and just slowly upgrade as you need.

[@Zyrk01]

I appreciate all your nr200/200p content. Ty, ty!

[@MachinesMore]

You’re welcome. 🤗

[@bambooex]

wow actualy best nr200 video on youtube thanks

[@natebrunette]

Is there a typo at 25:39? The parts in parenthesis are the same. I’m assuming the top entry either doesn’t include the A12 or it’s intaking on the side next to the A14?

[@eldorito777]

Can you compare with the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B?

[@caribou6023]

Most tower type air coolers are meant to take advantage of the typical air flow in a case - from front to back. Since the flow of air in this case is bottom to top, did you consider trying to orient the air coolers that way? Would love to know which ones would fit that way and if it had any effect on your results.

[@Justin-C]

Are you able to mount something like the U12S so that it blows upward? Planning on getting an NR200P when they're finally available for sale. Two top exhaust fans, a Founders 3080, plus (likely) a CPU tower cooler rotated so that it blows upward. Takes advantage of the "chimney" effect, minimizes changes in airflow direction, and gives the 3080's pass-through exhaust an easy way out (directly to the top 120mm exhaust rather than getting sucked into a sideways cpu tower).

[@MachinesMore]

You could- with an Intel socket just rotate it 90 degrees. For AM4 you will either need to have the SE AM4 version or request the brackets from Noctua separately. I’m kind of curious myself how well that will work but I’m wondering if the GPU exhaust just gets dumped in pretty unilaterally from underneath. The 3080 may somehow work out well, we have to wait and see. However, for GPUs that exhaust out the sides, that may be a recipe for extra heat for the CPU. We’re still pretty tight on space so whether it’s bottom up or side out, it’s still intaking close to the GPU.

[@lennonchua4181]

Love your dedication and quality review... after viewing all your NR200 - i am definitely sticking to TU150 for gaming whilst NR200 for normal work. Owning both cases which dimensions does not differ much... TU150 is much easier to work with & front dedicated intake with 2 bottom intake.. yet get to keep Tglass. (D15 / Dark Pro) PSU cables & GPU length placement it easier as well.

[@xephonraphael]

Could you try shifting the PSU bracket to the front so that dual 140mm fans can be mounted on the C14S? You also still get to use your 3.5" HDD mount on the PSU shroud this way. Btw, additional fan mounting clips can be requested from Noctua for free.

[@davidhewitt3070]

Thanks for the free fan clips from Noctura tip - just sent them an email :-)

[@brandonvictor4160]

this is a great breakdown. The NR200 has been on my radar for a while but not able to get one. This definitely gives me some ideas though, since I've ordered a QBX in the meantime for my first ITX build. Eventually I'll likely order an NR200, but until then I'll be working with this info for the QBX build.

[@thawesnerd]

I was waiting soooo long for this thank you for your efforts

[@MachinesMore]

You're welcome! Thank you for sharing.

[@Rushtallica]

For whatever reason, I cannot get my PC ( ASROCK Fatal1ty z370 ac/itx with 9600k ) to boot with the Fuma 2 cooler installed. I had researched and tried for hours to get it to boot, including resetting CMOS, replacing the RAM, trying one stick of RAM at a time in different slots, reseating the cooler, trying numerous different tolerances of tightness on the cooler, etc., and nothing works except putting back on my old Corsair H60 AIO. I even put one-sided foam tape on the backplate facing the board in case the metal backplate might be making any contact at all with anything, to no change. And each time it's been obvious that the bead of thermal paste I put on has spread out very well to cover the CPU, and I've been very careful to tighten it up evenly. There's nothing left I can think of to try. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :D I've have had no problem at all with other coolers such as the Noctua U14S, Hyper 212, other AIO's and stock coolers on numerous other builds and have had the Noctua cooler on this same mobo in a larger case before. I was really hoping to get this one working, as I didn't want to go with an AIO I can't keep an eye on with the NR200P because of having to use the vented panel. Anyway, I'm definitely open to any further ideas, and maybe someone else will have a similar problem at some point and won't feel too alone. :D For now, I'm just going to work on zip-tying the 120 AIO to the side frame after putting 2 120 mm fans in a push/pull config on it and to be able to position it so the intake fans will also blow directly onto the mobo similar to as if I were using a C14S.

[@MachinesMore]

Question… will it POST when the fan cables are not plugged in? I vaguely recall a similar situation awhile back that someone commented on and it was because the fan splitter or cable was incompatible.

[@Rushtallica]

@@MachinesMore Hi, and thanks so much for your great videos -- I've been watching plenty -- and your question/reply. 8) I tried it with both fans going to the CPU fan header with the supplied splitter and also tried going separately after that didn't work, one going to the CPU fan header and one going to the OPT/pump header. Each time I removed the Fuma 2 cooler and applied the H60, it booted with everything else connected the same way. If I wasn't out of time, I'd take it apart and reapply the Fuma 2 one more time just to make absolutely sure no part of the cooler is contacting any front part on the motherboard, like a pipe touching one of the memory chips or something. I think I would have noticed it when putting the cooler on each time, but my attention was more caught up in if I was getting each of the 2 bolts started correctly and tightening evenly with each other. :D It's the only thing left I can think of to check. But my H60 is crammed in now with a push/pull config (about to zip tie it now) and working with a barely-fitting Red Devil 6800 XT (I had to take off the I/O little plastic sheath organizer from the end of the cable, as it was putting pressure on the back of the card, pushing it down). I'm just glad it's working now. But when I have time again at some point, I'll likely try the Fuma 2 again and appreciate the quality of the cooler, and I intend to come back here and post if I can get it working. Thanks so much again. :)

[@MachinesMore]

That’s so weird, I’m genuinely curious what’s going on. It uses the stock AM4 backplate so shorting things out on the board shouldn’t be an issue. If you do try it again, I would try to POST first with nothing plugged onto the headers (it’s fine to run fanless just to see if it will start, there’s enough thermal mass for the cooler work work passively for at least awhile). If the cable on either fan is damaged it might be the issue… and if it does start without fans plugged in then one or both of the fans are faulty.

[@plusultra9142]

thanx a LOT man I really injoyed this video and all the air cooling possibilities for nr200, if you can do the exact same thing with the Phanteks evolv shift 2 it will be amazing keep it up

[@Randomlosername]

Love it man. Just randomly stumbled across your channel while looking for some info. Def got a sub from me.

[@Achiez-z]

I have the Gigabyte Aorus X570 I Mini ITX motherboard, you showed that the socket is slightly higher than the Asus motherboard, do you think the U12A will fit with a NF-A12x25 on top of it? At 12:10, where it shows you fitting a U12A with I assume a 25 mm fan on top of it, is that using the Asus motherboard? If so, then the Gigabyte X570 I motherboard + U12A probably won't be able to fit a 25 mm thick fan on top of it.

[@bhaaratsharma6023]

You are a Subject Matter Expert on NR200. Awesome!

[@santiago.alcocer]

Awesome! So well explained. Thank you so much for this amazing amount of valuable info!

[@Rubberglass]

Exactly the video I need! Great work!

[@crassy3093]

If u get the mounting bracket for the c14 itll allow you to switch position of the heatsink and free up room to put a 140mm underneath and a 92mm rear. Atleast thats what ncase m1 people do. Also a 92mm doesnt fix on the rear with the c14? Looks like it would with all that space

[@MachinesMore]

Good idea! I thought it would, actually I was SURE it would when I installed it but it is just a tad too tight. I’ll try it again if I get my hands on the brackets.

[@crassy3093]

@@MachinesMore do you think a slim 92mm would work? also putting another 140mm next to the c14s on exhaust should help with thermals too right?

[@MachinesMore]

@@crassy3093 Slim 92 probably, but at that point I'd just let it run passive, the obstruction to the airflow path may be more counterproductive than just leaving it open. Another intake fan next to the heatsink fan didn't do too much. Too much intake in the case at that point, I had two bottom, one A14 on the side, you have to balance things out especially since there's only one exhaust fan on the top right.

[@PyromancerRift]

I just got the case the other day, i've ordered a fuma 2 and i already have 2 NFA12x25 and 12X15. I will put the thick noctua fans on the fuma 2, i will try to put the slim noctuas in the top, i will see if the toolless pegs can do that. I am planing on geting a 3080 asus TUF, i think bottom fans are a no go with that kind of GPU, but maybe if i can fit the NF A12X25 under the GPU with deshrouding and get back the stock fuma 2, it may help everything in the case. Thank you for testing all the options. Really, thanks.

[@manelmartinez5782]

Excellent analysis and explanation. Very helpful!!

[@jarrd]

This was a very informative video, thank you

[@村人A-d5h]

Note that there is a new option for the NR200. Fuma2 Rev.B (with KAZE FLEX II 120 up-to 1500 rpm).

[@winstonbritto2789]

Does the Noctua U12A and U12S fin in the NR200P with the TG panel?

[@turbo280zzz]

Whats your opinion on air cooling with the tempered glass panel? Really dont wanna go to water, but i still wanna use the tg panel.

[@Pamani_]

Fuma 2 + Arctic 5x P12 value pack : 2 fans to replace the Scythe ones, 2 on the bottom, 1 top right

[@Mr.DJones]

Another great video on NR200. Thank you. Just bought the C14S and five fans (3 x A12x25 / 2 x A12x15). This will be for a Ryzen 9 5900X & RTX 3080 Ti FE (waited all night on the 26th at Best Buy). Thank you again. Side Note: I just saw that a new CM NR200P came out called NR200P MAX. Has pre-installed AIO & Power. Not for me. :)

[@aemudearyon8864]

Really a great video comparing the best air cooler for this case on the market! I could see a lot of efforts been put on this video! But I have one question, why did you test Scythe Fuma 2 as an intake instead of exhaust? Because based on the previous video when you are comparing which is the best fans orientation, it shows that cpu cooler tower is better to act as an exhaust?

[@DarrylUK]

I’ve really enjoyed your series of videos on the NR200. I’d be interested to know what your recommended cooler would be when fitting the TG.

[@MachinesMore]

I think the addition of the glass panel will restrict the ability of the C14s to draw cool air from the top, though it will have the back opening to help (an intaking 92mm would hugely help but unfortunately won't fit). I would think that you would be better off with a regular tower there since the airflow pattern is more dependent on the top fans. So, Fuma 2 or U12A depending on budget/cooling needs. And I am glad you enjoyed the videos!

[@Imperfectlink.]

@@MachinesMore Will the TG close with the U12A? TBH I expected more from the Fuma 2 here.

[@manman464]

Exaxtly what i was looking for , great video ✌🏼❤

[@iskremape]

i mounted the C14S! with the heat pipes pointint towards the top of the case and was barely able to fit a 3.5 inch drive mounted on the PSU shroud

[@Ramingo1983]

Thanks, that's exactly what i was searching. Great job! So, the C14S can install a second 120mm fan, i thought that the included clip could only work with a 140mm fan. Thanks again!

[@MachinesMore]

Cheers- the included clip does only work with a 140. I have a 120mm clip from another cooler and it worked, if you don’t have one you could request from Noctua.

[@Ramingo1983]

@@MachinesMore ah, I see. Thanks

[@user-bm4gb6lr8d]

@@MachinesMore how

[@greghicks7785]

Thanks for all the great videos, super helpful! Curious what motherboard you used for this one? I'm wondering if the lower placed CPU socket on the Asus or Asrock B550i boards would allow more space to install both of the 25mm top fans using the NH-C14s in the NR200? Or if not, might a rear 92mm exhaust give it some help?

[@randallstephens1680]

I think you can fit a DeepCool AK620 in the NR200 if you remove the top plastic decorative parts.

[@ohwowitszead3374]

This was so helpful, thanks for talking me out of the U12a and putting forth a good argument for the C14s. I'm curious about the clearance above the C14s and fan compatibility at the top of the case. I know you mentioned that the 120mm fan does not fit for the C14s, but does for the U12a. There's a 15mm difference in the width of the two, so a slim fan should fit above the C14s right? I think that if it does, the C14s would be better for this case not only because the GPU temps have better potential, but the slim fan should close the gap in CPU temps, if not allow it to perform better than the U12a, no?

[@MachinesMore]

You’re welcome. I couldn’t fit a slim fan over either since there was pressure on the center making it not turn. However- this part is heavily motherboard dependent and my test board happens to be one of the higher CPU sockets for ITX boards. If you’re running something lower like the Asus Strix boards, you will probably be able to fit a slim fan over, however you will need to determine how to attach it. The CPU temps are already on par with the U12A if you’re using a good pull fan under the heatsink. The top fan isn’t strictly needed at that point. The idea is that there’s still plenty of open space for the hot air to be expelled, either side, or top of the heatsink. There’s a generous amount of clearance between the heatsink and the motherboard so still room for air to move around. Putting the 140mm fan on the rad panel also really helps.

[@Sneedles]

When describing what couldn't fit it would have been nice to see b roll or even a screenshot of those products.

[@jzyyz]

The best GPU cooling configuration should be to remove the puny stock fans and shroud, get a PWM to PWM mini adapter, and plug 2x 120mm or 140mm bottom intake fans into the GPU (I've read the NR200 can fit 140mms, they just have to be ziptied). Or if you don't care about having the GPU control the fan speed don't bother with the adapter and use a motherboard fan header. I have this setup in a regular ATX case that doesn't even have the advantage of a direct intake for the fans, and it's easily a 20C+ swing in temps and much quieter (140mms are also significantly better than 120mms, quite surprisingly). I plan to move my build into a NR200 eventually for the direct intake benefit.

[@chibbyylol]

@Machines & More If I already have 7x NF-A12's from a previous build and can occupy both top 2 and bottom 2 fans in the NR200, would the U12A be overall better than the C14S? Say having the U12A pulling air intake from the rear, 2 a12's intaking from the bottom and 2 a12's exhausting from the top? thanks

[@MachinesMore]

Well, it’s already better in that you don’t have to go out and buy another cooler 😎 Seriously though, if you already have a U12A, I wouldn’t go and buy another air cooler, since the U12A is close to the C14S. If you really need lowest CPU temps I’d be looking at a side mount AIO.The U12A is an objectively better cooler than the C14S, but in this case, and due to the position, it’s not as ideal if you have a moderate to high TDP GPU (and both CPU and GPU run simultaneously). The top to bottom fan direction is correct, but try the cooler out as a rear exhaust first, without bottom fans (in rear exhaust bottom fans make the CPU temps marginally worse and GPU marginally better, it’s a wash). You’ll find that as long as top exhaust is running, your thermals will be close to a rear intake with bottom fans running.

[@cjmessa9343]

This is perfect. Exactly what I'm looking for. So regular 3700 with Fuma 2 as exhaust should be perfect for me rn.

[@cjmessa9343]

@@MachinesMore Sorry for any confusion, did you mean U12A? I don't have any overclocking in the near future.

[@MachinesMore]

Sorry, totally meant for the comment below!

[@MachinesMore]

The Fuma is perfect for your intended use! You can’t beat it for value.

[@Andrew-cp7mc]

@@MachinesMore For the Fuma, it sounds like the takeaway is rear and top exhaust with Noctua fans replacement on the cooler, no need for bottom intake fans. Is this correct? Is there space for a 3 fan configuration on the Fuma cooler in rear exhaust setup?