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Cooler Master NR200 Large Air Coolers: Featuring the U12S, U12A, Scythe Fuma 2, and the C14S!

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Machines & More

Machines & More

Күн бұрын

In this large air cooler round up for the Cooler Master NR200, I take a look at the Noctua U12S, Noctua U12A, Scythe Fuma 2, and the Noctua C14S. I review each one and present the thermals specific to the NR200 for CPU, and combined CPU/GPU tests. I’ll also discuss which CPU cooler makes sense, relative to the upcoming Nvidia 3080 GPU. Which one is the best for the NR200? Come find out!
Links for products mentioned- as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases:
CoolerMaster NR200: amzn.to/2FxMqSU
Noctua NH-U12s: amzn.to/3h8bWvQ
Scythe Fuma 2: amzn.to/3bGSLrf
Noctua NH-U12A CPU Cooler: amzn.to/34e2Gmo
Noctua NH-C14S: amzn.to/2Fhydtv
Noctua NF-A12x25mm PWM fans: amzn.to/3h9mFGt
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU: amzn.to/34fUp1a
Gigabyte Aorus X570 ITX Motherboard: amzn.to/2Qe9yYB
Asus Strix X570-I ITX Motherboard: amzn.to/2E2aYDg
Timestamps for easy reference:
0:00 Intro
3:30 Additional Configs: 92mm fan/Rear Intake + Bottom Fans
7:17 Noctua NH-U12S
9:33 Noctua NH-U12A
13:20 Scythe Fuma 2
17:30 Noctua NH-C14S
20:40 Testing Methodology
21:40 Thermal Results
26:57 Use case summary: Scythe Fuma 2
28:21 Use case summary: Noctua NH-C14S
31:53 Use case summary: Noctua NH-U12A
33:30 The best large air cooler for the NR200?

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@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
DA MACHINE: You are the ONLY ONE as of now who made the most comprehensive analysis of NR200, and you have helped so many of us who are still waiting on the case itself to shape up the right cooling components of our builds. I cannot thank you enough for the tremendous amount of work you’ve done with these series. I’m sure I’m expressing the voice of the entire SFF community and NR200 fans in particular. Thank you!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! I'm stoked that all of you are enjoying this, and there's still a lot more to come. This case certainly deserves the following it's building up and we absolutely need to give it the attention it deserves so that improvements, revisions, and competing products follow in the future, the future is bright for SFF!
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
Machines & More absolutely. By far this is the best case I’ve come across so far, and trust me, I’ve been watching the evolution of SFF cases for quite some time now, researching EVERY single case that was manufactured at this point. Considering it’s affordability AND hardware compatibility, this is by far one of the most accommodating cases on the market right now. No wonder it sparks so much interest! Don’t stop experimenting with it😎! Looking forward to the 3000 series videos now from u! Cheers! And again - great work.
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
Machines & More also, there should be an equivalent to Cerberus X (just slightly larger than NR200) with full ATX boards support, yet implementing a SFF so we could take full advantage of the hardware. Cerberus and it’s bigger brother X-version lack radiator support. While it’s possible, the options are limited that’s the reason why I ended up NOT going with it.
@SafMan89
@SafMan89 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Can I ask, with the C14S is it better to have the fan on the top side of the heatsink instead of on the side panel? Also I was thinking of putting a fan next to it on the side panel but as exhaust to help get rid of GPU heat, that woudn't megatively affect CPU right?
@gctdonyre
@gctdonyre 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Could you do a review on the 2020 update of the Dark Rock TF?
@thenowak9053
@thenowak9053 3 жыл бұрын
Man, your work on this case is simply beyond words. Thank you thousand times for all this comprehensive info.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@martinquintana2458
@martinquintana2458 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way, thank you very much! I just subscribed
@michaeltyc3479
@michaeltyc3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore thanks a lot indeed! I have migrated parts from the TU150 into the nr200 last week, since the GPU (3080 XC3 from Evga) was just getting choked with high thermals as a result. CPU temps (5800x) were great when paired with the Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH edition, which makes sense, considering the airflow of the case. I have slapped a single NF-A12 on now for intake since a second Scythe fan did not fit the case in the back for the pull/exhaust with the I Aorus x570 mobo. 2 slim Scythe Kaze flex are mounted under the GPU. 1 included top fan as exhaust. Aesthetically I would love a 2 fan exhaust in the top, so not sure how to approach that yet. Results for now: GPU temps under stress load are 7-9 (!!!) degrees lower than in the old case, with less fan noise. CPU is cool under load as well, although a bit jumpy in gaming, which is known for the model. So very happy so far. But just can't stand that there's only 1 Cpu fan on the tower, making me think it can get even cooler in there. So today, the C14s is coming in, and can't wait to see what it'll do in comparison.
@stockscrypto101
@stockscrypto101 Жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMorethe phantom spirit can fit and has better thermals and is quieter
@shaun3133
@shaun3133 3 жыл бұрын
Being an NR200 owner this channel is definitely appreciated. Excellent quality work.
@inmypaants
@inmypaants 3 жыл бұрын
29:43 dude this was a really great piece of advice for 3080 (FE) buyers! 100% people in that category concerned about air cooling should pick up the C14S!
@awedmore5013
@awedmore5013 2 жыл бұрын
Sir - your channel is the premier location for all you need to know about the NR200 and cooling. Bravo.
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed analysis. The only thing I would like to have seen added would be the VRM thermals. It would appear that the C14S would have the best VRM thermals as it's the only one blowing air across the motherboard but it would be nice to have confirmation.
@suhaib1249
@suhaib1249 3 жыл бұрын
I came across this case yesterday after I realised that my Nitro+ 6800xt (on preorder) won’t fit my preferred RVZ01 which I liked due to the slim profile and great thermals for ITX. I am building a high end gaming rig which is to be tucked behind my living room really so there aren’t many options. Most of the ITX cases wouldn’t accommodate a 55mm thick card without compromising thermals on both GPU and CPU. After I learnt about this card, I have been watching your videos non-stop. Never before I have seen anyone done such a comprehensive analysis of the case. Can’t thank you enough for answering all my potential questions. Keep up the great work.
@laggmonstret
@laggmonstret 3 жыл бұрын
He goes from clarity to clarity! Just deliver one top video after another, I can't thank You enough for Your deep tests and an open ear for suggestions. The NH-C14s does indeed look very promising in combination with a RTX 3080 FE. If I can snag a card I will definately look into including it into my build :) Keep up the good work and hope your channel will explode with subscribers, you're worth it :)
@faux_grey
@faux_grey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your videos, I've made this exact setup with NR200, C14S & deshrouded 3080, works like a dream.
@Bound4Earth
@Bound4Earth 3 жыл бұрын
If you are ballsy you can try 4mm standoffs or modding the side panel if you already have a larger cooler. Just throwing out alternatives for people like me, that already had an old NH-D15 and didn't want to waste money on another cooler. I fell in love with this case and made it work. I chose to mod the side panel, but have seen a few cases of using shorter standoffs that worked just fine. The 4mm standoffs will cause some minor I/O displacement, but you should still be able to use everything just fine. Just be aware that it might cause issues with clearance for M.2 drives and you have to ensure the motherboard doesn't come close to the metal. You also have to ensure you have shorter screws that work in the shorter standoffs or use some kind of spacer. The modded side panel can actually turn out kind of cool. I provided an example below, not my mod btw. www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/igeyxv/cut_holes_in_my_nr200_to_fit_a_nhd15s/
@CapnSnackbeard
@CapnSnackbeard 3 жыл бұрын
Your extensive coverage of this case and FE combo is so good snd hits such a good sweet spot! Thank you!
@Oh_Sully23
@Oh_Sully23 3 жыл бұрын
Quite happy with my Fuma2 cooling an R5 3600 on an MSI B450i. I have dual 120mm fans up top exhausting with 3-4mm clearance between the grill and the Fuma2. No rendering, just gaming and normal web browsing, so I run 2 120mm fans intaking under the Sapphire 5700XT to help GPU temps as the CPU isn't too stressed in the games I play. I've gradually shrunk my system down from a big mATX case to a Define NanoS and now the NR200, and ditched all my watercooling gear. Fantastic series of videos mate!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@lantern214
@lantern214 3 жыл бұрын
It's now possible to fit a D15-S now. There are a few modders out there who 3D printed spacers to create space for larger cpu towers and top hats for the nr200p to use a 240mm aio at the top. Along with atx psu brackets to fit an atx psu (max 150mm) inside.
@Crftbt
@Crftbt 3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see which coolers have come out since this video that might be good options. :)
@GuyGamer1
@GuyGamer1 Жыл бұрын
Such a high quality video. I was looking at getting a Fuma 2 for this case. Then I read about if it's better to intake or exhaust. Not only have you covered that, you've covered the optimal fan placement too for each cooler! And with DECIBEL NORMALIZED RESULTS! Thank you so much.
@hansdoreen
@hansdoreen 3 жыл бұрын
Best video for NR200 air cooled setup on youtube! Good job, just what I wanted to see.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@leo1739
@leo1739 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing coverage of the compatibility of this case. Might be of interest for you to check out the Cryorig H7 Ultra! It's a particularly interesting tower cooler for the NR200 as its only 145mm high which might allow you to fit the side bracket.
@michaelhollingshead972
@michaelhollingshead972 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see the same test with the Scythe Big Shuriken Rev. 3
@jpbier
@jpbier 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say thanks for this video! I came from a full-tower ATX setup but took your C14S recommendation to finally downsize to an NR200 and I'm really happy with it! I used front mount for the PSU though so I could mount 2x140mm fans on the C14S plus a 3.5" HDD on the PSU bracket and ended up with even better CPU deltas. For the C14S, I had the stock Noctua on the bottom and an Arctic Bionix 140 on top. My Asus B550i mobo also had a lower mounting position so I managed to put a second 120x25 top rear exhaust fan in there too, though I put a low noise adapter on it so that (theoretically) the top front exhaust would pull more of the GPU exhaust away from the C14S.
@ZuluKing91
@ZuluKing91 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Im looking to make the switch from full-tower ATX to the NR200 aswell. Got myself some 140mm fans from noctua so that would be great to use that. I'm interested in the looks of your case now. Might it be possible for you to sent some pictures to show how you've done that?
@kamata93
@kamata93 2 жыл бұрын
Dude… recent subscriber here but with one video you answered all of my questions!!! I will definitely be getting this case for my next PC. I have been looking for small ITX case for a while now and this seems the best case overall out there. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
@backpain100
@backpain100 3 жыл бұрын
This is THE BEST and most comprehensive video on cooler compatibility and performance for the NR200. The quality is unexpectedly good. Great job.
@SeaSlug182
@SeaSlug182 Жыл бұрын
Wanted to leave this here: I went with the C14S and was sill able to fit a 25x92mm fan in the back of the case with the blades just barely clearing the cooler heat pipes.
@brownishblue
@brownishblue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I already got a system with U12A and was hoping it would fit in a smaller case than I got now! Thank you so much!
@iPh3x
@iPh3x 3 жыл бұрын
Purchased U12A. Case NR200P. Mother board : 490i Unify from MSI. TG is far from closing. Vented pannel closes perfectly without bulging. Can tell if heatpipes touch the pannel, but if it does, there is no stress. Had Mugen5 for short time, not U12A. Noctua's cooler is much better. Temps are way lower for i9 10900 non k with power limits removed. With noctua ~70 (thermal paste NT-H1), with scythe up to high 80 ( stock scythe thermal paste) when testing in Cinebench r23. Mugen 5 was fully compatible with TG pannel.
@Chris-ev6cp
@Chris-ev6cp 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I'd love to see with with the dark rock TF included aswell
@LastSecBloomer
@LastSecBloomer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it would be interesting to compare it to C14s.
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
Chris 8892 yep. Sure looks like a good contender for the job. The problem with TF is compatibility issues with a lot of boards (interference with the first dimm slot in particular). Be careful before you buy. Check out their website for motherboard compatibility (they have a mobo check tool).
@S1nw1th1n
@S1nw1th1n 3 жыл бұрын
I think it wont fit in cooler master nr200
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
Anique Waheed Abbasi it sure will. The case is not a problem. Some mobos are.
@warabi-mvh967
@warabi-mvh967 3 жыл бұрын
I have nr200 with darkrock tf
@chillkyle
@chillkyle Жыл бұрын
I thank you very much for pointing out the HDD bracket compatibility! It is super helpful.
@Demonwicked
@Demonwicked 3 жыл бұрын
I accidentally had the C14s on my ATX rig before moving to nr200p and this confirmed that I dont need to change it out, thank you for a great indepth comparison!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're just one step ahead of yourself! It won't be at its best with the glass panel but with the vented panel it's awesome.
@grandpixel
@grandpixel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all of this testing! It would be great if you could sum up all of your videos and just give a few recommendations. There's just too many hours of video here to watch it all. I recommend including benchmarks for 1) best low cost air cooling solution and configuration (maybe a $40-60 cooler, and 1-3 extra case fans ... whatever you can do for reasonable money while stopping before diminishing returns) and 2) best high end air cooler and case fan configuration (again while staying reasonable, 99% of people don't want to spend $100 in noctua case fans to gain 1 degree or 1 decibel), and then best aio water cooler and configuration... and I actually have ordered two NR200P cases, one black and one white... so it would be great to do the same final recommendations for these cases with glass, both horizontal and vertical gpu... I know this is a big ask but I think it will be helpful for a lot of people... and I know you have the data, lol
@Andrew-cp7mc
@Andrew-cp7mc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort trying out different configurations! Gives me some ideas when my Scythe Fuma 2 arrives; will probably replace the fans like you did with Noctua ones.
@premnikz
@premnikz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much now I finally can go for NHU12A
@mikfhan
@mikfhan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Hoping for a brief follow-up retest once AM5 Zen4 and Raptor Lake arrives :) especially with the power-hungry new GPUs also.
@Ofangio
@Ofangio 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Please please do one with the glass panel!
@akotochris
@akotochris 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using NR200 with Aorus B550i and NH-U12S and it fits without "bulging" and with OEM top fans.
@samgoff5289
@samgoff5289 3 жыл бұрын
Good job man, another great video. Very in depth testing. Keep it up with this level of detail and your channel will definitely grow!
@rakatitan
@rakatitan 2 жыл бұрын
why I never found you faster man... I love air cooler, and sff. This vid is a real blessing
@kickin123
@kickin123 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an analysis of best air cooler with the TG glass option - its tricky!
@campitcher8507
@campitcher8507 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing I've seen is Hardware Canucks put a Cooler Master 212 Evo in this case (also 158mm) and he said that it also fits with the glass
@simonbaker7462
@simonbaker7462 3 жыл бұрын
Scythe Mugen 5 works in TG aswell.
@thomasjackwelter
@thomasjackwelter 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonbaker7462 what Mobo do you have?
@simonbaker7462
@simonbaker7462 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjackwelter gigabyte b550 itx
@jbplayroom
@jbplayroom 3 жыл бұрын
No words can express how thankful I am for these extensive analysis videos of the NR200. I couldn't find it anywhere else! Finding the best case scenario using tower coolers in the case is also quite appreciated, because well, the keyword in this statement is "best". As additional content, may I suggest experimenting with case fan configurations while using the stock cooler of the 3700X? I think the NR200 is more than capable enough to keep thermals in check. I could argue that many people who are checking out the NR200 are attracted mostly due to the price, hence, could be on a budget. Undoubtedly, the reach of the NR200 has gone beyond the realm of power users or performance enthusiasts because of that great price. I for one am wondering if I can just keep the NR200 stock fans (top and back), slap on the stock CPU cooler in the 3700X, then add a 120mm fan on the side bracket, blowing air from outside directly towards the CPU cooler. Will it throttle or will it be good enough? How does it compare to the best scenario? Sometimes I do wonder if there's too much content being made about the best case scenario, and not enough about the "cheap but good enough". Anyway, just my thoughts. Even if overlooked, I am genuinely appreciative of the work you have done so far and will not likely to change my decision of buying this case, as soon as I can do so locally. Seriously, thank you!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you for that. I like to present a few options because everybody has different priorities. For the stock cooler, I will be looking at low profile cooling options so that's something that I will do in that installment. Based on what I can glean so far about airflow in this case, just stick the fan on the top. The top fans will partially intake from the side anyway, but the big thing is you want to exhaust the hot air out quickly, especially since you are pushing it towards the mobo. I have no doubt the stock cooler works fine, the question is how loud can your ears handle under load! I see absolutely no reason that you shouldn't start with the stock cooler and just slowly upgrade as you need.
@jmasse713
@jmasse713 2 жыл бұрын
31:00 That's weird, I have a NR200, and C14S. I definitely was able to fit a 92mm fan as rear exhaust, along with 2 120mm slim fans up top. Great video!
@justTYPH00N
@justTYPH00N Жыл бұрын
hey man, I was wondering that too, thanks for that info, I might buy the C14S then. The reason is most likely you mainboard, where the mount is a bit lower. Can you tell me which one you have? And how are the termals?
@arthurvincentsimon5651
@arthurvincentsimon5651 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for a good air cooler for the nr200. I can finally stop my search and get the NH-C14S!
@DStantonDPT
@DStantonDPT 7 ай бұрын
WIth the recent explosion in popularity of this case, and the addition of the thermalright phantom spirit 120 and silver soul 135 to the market, have you considered revisiting this and updating the cooling results? Both are high performance dual tower coolers that come with fairly decent stock fans and are showing cooling potential capable of keeping a 12900k under Tmax
@elijahj8101
@elijahj8101 3 жыл бұрын
wow, I just got a NR200 to build a Ryzen 5 5900X + 6800XT system in and your vids really helped a ton on deciding how to set it up!
@davidlan5698
@davidlan5698 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Please make more videos like these. Screw the fancy lighting, the BS sponsorships, you're vids are on point. Great Work!!!
@rektorpwr2006
@rektorpwr2006 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and very informative test! Especially I love to see all custom fans configs that you did, it's making the fan & cooler choice a lot easier. Thank you!!
@eddyx92x5
@eddyx92x5 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the C14S after you recommendet it.This was a good decision. I paired the cooler with a i7 1170K. The cooler keeps the CPU cool and does this job relatively quiet for the tiny NR200P. Yes you can hear the fan spinning but it is ok for the dimensions of the case. Overall I am happy with the cooler. Thank you :)
@kickin123
@kickin123 3 жыл бұрын
super indepth review on this very popular case. Thanks and welldone!
@oil3
@oil3 3 жыл бұрын
Not even planning on building a new PC until mid-2021 (time to put down the ol' i5-2500k), but your videos have been super informative and fun to watch! Thanks for all the great content.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. You know, next year is going to be absolutely fantastic for building. The 3060 to 3090 should all be out, in fact a 1600 series may even be out at that point, which will be an absolute steal if they stick to the same price point- figure it will be 2070 super like performance for $250ish. Then you'll also have Zen 3... going to be great timing.
@kyleivy7679
@kyleivy7679 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video as always, amazing work. One recommendation would be to add timestamped sections for the different coolers.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Done!
@kyleivy7679
@kyleivy7679 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Beautiful, thank you!
@MrAlefantos
@MrAlefantos 3 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best reviewers right now on youtube. I hope you can make different case + cooler combos in the future. Keep it up!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad you are enjoying it. Different cases are coming right up! Last few weeks of the year will be very interesting here for SFF enthusiasts.
@plusultra9142
@plusultra9142 3 жыл бұрын
thanx a LOT man I really injoyed this video and all the air cooling possibilities for nr200, if you can do the exact same thing with the Phanteks evolv shift 2 it will be amazing keep it up
@kristoffer4844
@kristoffer4844 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic insight and presentation. Really impressive! Thank you!
@rafaelmarkbiares9938
@rafaelmarkbiares9938 3 жыл бұрын
If only my subscription would count as 1 million. this guy deserves more
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Worth a million to me! Thanks pal.
@VeachOnTheBeach
@VeachOnTheBeach Жыл бұрын
Hey man i appreciate all of your work ypu do! We would lovw and appreciate an updraed version of this video as there are many new contenders in the market like the PA120 or AK620
@wolfganglonien2093
@wolfganglonien2093 2 жыл бұрын
These were exactly the tips & recommendations I needed - thanks man! Really appreciated!
@brandonvictor4160
@brandonvictor4160 3 жыл бұрын
this is a great breakdown. The NR200 has been on my radar for a while but not able to get one. This definitely gives me some ideas though, since I've ordered a QBX in the meantime for my first ITX build. Eventually I'll likely order an NR200, but until then I'll be working with this info for the QBX build.
@shaun3133
@shaun3133 3 жыл бұрын
Been researching this case I’m glad I found your videos, damn I appreciate your excellent presentation.
@jzhu623
@jzhu623 3 жыл бұрын
The best GPU cooling configuration should be to remove the puny stock fans and shroud, get a PWM to PWM mini adapter, and plug 2x 120mm or 140mm bottom intake fans into the GPU (I've read the NR200 can fit 140mms, they just have to be ziptied). Or if you don't care about having the GPU control the fan speed don't bother with the adapter and use a motherboard fan header. I have this setup in a regular ATX case that doesn't even have the advantage of a direct intake for the fans, and it's easily a 20C+ swing in temps and much quieter (140mms are also significantly better than 120mms, quite surprisingly). I plan to move my build into a NR200 eventually for the direct intake benefit.
@macmac4050
@macmac4050 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video ... really helping me decide on my build ... thanks
@marcusohrvall3710
@marcusohrvall3710 3 жыл бұрын
Really great informative video, i will be using a c14s when i buy a nr200! you sir got a new subscriber! :)
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@morbentfel
@morbentfel 3 жыл бұрын
production quality of the videos improving a lot love it
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@bhaaratsharma6023
@bhaaratsharma6023 3 жыл бұрын
You are a Subject Matter Expert on NR200. Awesome!
@momoster69
@momoster69 3 жыл бұрын
i want this guy to read me bed time stories. such smooth voice.
@prockrog5219
@prockrog5219 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the extremely useful info on the NR200!
@martinbuxton
@martinbuxton 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great review and information on air cooling in the NR200. Its the case I am planning for my build and the information is top notch and no talk of RGB and how the case looks.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
The next video will be about RGB options in this case and how to get the most lumens per dollar. :) Just kidding.
@Randomlosername
@Randomlosername 3 жыл бұрын
Love it man. Just randomly stumbled across your channel while looking for some info. Def got a sub from me.
@zeus1117
@zeus1117 2 жыл бұрын
I want to say big thank you for this video! High quality and priceless information!
@kaitwee
@kaitwee 3 жыл бұрын
this video is gold. you just answered most of my question for my next build
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@jnavarra
@jnavarra 3 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you so much for this. It's helping me plan out my build so much.
@eldorito777
@eldorito777 3 жыл бұрын
Can you compare with the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B?
@lennonchua4181
@lennonchua4181 3 жыл бұрын
Love your dedication and quality review... after viewing all your NR200 - i am definitely sticking to TU150 for gaming whilst NR200 for normal work. Owning both cases which dimensions does not differ much... TU150 is much easier to work with & front dedicated intake with 2 bottom intake.. yet get to keep Tglass. (D15 / Dark Pro) PSU cables & GPU length placement it easier as well.
@aemudearyon8864
@aemudearyon8864 3 жыл бұрын
Really a great video comparing the best air cooler for this case on the market! I could see a lot of efforts been put on this video! But I have one question, why did you test Scythe Fuma 2 as an intake instead of exhaust? Because based on the previous video when you are comparing which is the best fans orientation, it shows that cpu cooler tower is better to act as an exhaust?
@Justin-C
@Justin-C 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to mount something like the U12S so that it blows upward? Planning on getting an NR200P when they're finally available for sale. Two top exhaust fans, a Founders 3080, plus (likely) a CPU tower cooler rotated so that it blows upward. Takes advantage of the "chimney" effect, minimizes changes in airflow direction, and gives the 3080's pass-through exhaust an easy way out (directly to the top 120mm exhaust rather than getting sucked into a sideways cpu tower).
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You could- with an Intel socket just rotate it 90 degrees. For AM4 you will either need to have the SE AM4 version or request the brackets from Noctua separately. I’m kind of curious myself how well that will work but I’m wondering if the GPU exhaust just gets dumped in pretty unilaterally from underneath. The 3080 may somehow work out well, we have to wait and see. However, for GPUs that exhaust out the sides, that may be a recipe for extra heat for the CPU. We’re still pretty tight on space so whether it’s bottom up or side out, it’s still intaking close to the GPU.
@user-tq7ci3wd2z
@user-tq7ci3wd2z 2 жыл бұрын
Note that there is a new option for the NR200. Fuma2 Rev.B (with KAZE FLEX II 120 up-to 1500 rpm).
@melmagallon6233
@melmagallon6233 3 жыл бұрын
You seriously have this case down to a science!
@Ramingo1983
@Ramingo1983 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's exactly what i was searching. Great job! So, the C14S can install a second 120mm fan, i thought that the included clip could only work with a 140mm fan. Thanks again!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers- the included clip does only work with a 140. I have a 120mm clip from another cooler and it worked, if you don’t have one you could request from Noctua.
@Ramingo1983
@Ramingo1983 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore ah, I see. Thanks
@user-bm4gb6lr8d
@user-bm4gb6lr8d 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore how
@LongestYardstick
@LongestYardstick 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this video was so wonderfully comprehensive, I just wish I could see one on the 5950x xD
@RojasTKD7
@RojasTKD7 2 жыл бұрын
Well I stuffed a NH-D15 in my NR200. Took a little massaging but not too bad.
@temporaltomato3021
@temporaltomato3021 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Noctua NH-U12A section about thermal differences and overclocking headroom: the data is good, however you can't use "percent" differences when talking about temperature deltas unless you're measuring in Kelvin. 0 degrees C is not actual 0 😁These differences are still interesting though.
@Mr.DJones
@Mr.DJones 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video on NR200. Thank you. Just bought the C14S and five fans (3 x A12x25 / 2 x A12x15). This will be for a Ryzen 9 5900X & RTX 3080 Ti FE (waited all night on the 26th at Best Buy). Thank you again. Side Note: I just saw that a new CM NR200P came out called NR200P MAX. Has pre-installed AIO & Power. Not for me. :)
@Kryzvlogs
@Kryzvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your nr200/200p content. Ty, ty!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. 🤗
@Sneedles
@Sneedles 3 жыл бұрын
When describing what couldn't fit it would have been nice to see b roll or even a screenshot of those products.
@ryancheah0517
@ryancheah0517 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work man! Basically made the decision to build my workstation in the NR200 with a Fuma 2 after watching your videos. Thank you very much for the comprehensive analysis. I was just wondering if you could test out the Fuma 2 with 3 fans stacked together, with the PSU bracket rotated 90 degrees. And also a Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi, with the side bracket installed and a PWM 120mm fan installed on the right side of the side bracket as intake. Thanks in advance!
@xephonraphael
@xephonraphael 3 жыл бұрын
Could you try shifting the PSU bracket to the front so that dual 140mm fans can be mounted on the C14S? You also still get to use your 3.5" HDD mount on the PSU shroud this way. Btw, additional fan mounting clips can be requested from Noctua for free.
@davidhewitt3070
@davidhewitt3070 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the free fan clips from Noctura tip - just sent them an email :-)
@rossperu7871
@rossperu7871 3 жыл бұрын
wow, amazing video thanks so much this is gonna help me do my first small form factor case. Thanks!!!
@jeremiahsingularo7340
@jeremiahsingularo7340 3 жыл бұрын
Tank you so much! I was looking for this information everywhere! are you going to build NR200 with new NVIDIA 3000 cards too? it would be interesting since the fans on those cards are placed on different sides.
@thawesnerd
@thawesnerd 3 жыл бұрын
ya this guys rocks!
@santiago.alcocer
@santiago.alcocer 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So well explained. Thank you so much for this amazing amount of valuable info!
@DarrylUK
@DarrylUK 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve really enjoyed your series of videos on the NR200. I’d be interested to know what your recommended cooler would be when fitting the TG.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I think the addition of the glass panel will restrict the ability of the C14s to draw cool air from the top, though it will have the back opening to help (an intaking 92mm would hugely help but unfortunately won't fit). I would think that you would be better off with a regular tower there since the airflow pattern is more dependent on the top fans. So, Fuma 2 or U12A depending on budget/cooling needs. And I am glad you enjoyed the videos!
@Imperfectlink.
@Imperfectlink. 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Will the TG close with the U12A? TBH I expected more from the Fuma 2 here.
@Pamani_
@Pamani_ 3 жыл бұрын
Fuma 2 + Arctic 5x P12 value pack : 2 fans to replace the Scythe ones, 2 on the bottom, 1 top right
@Arthzil
@Arthzil 2 жыл бұрын
All those issues with finding compatible air cooler for NR200 makes me want to go for NR200P Max with mesh panel...
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 жыл бұрын
Wow a mtb guy with a sff air cooling review... Sweet ❤️ But you should really try alpenföhn olymp & thermalright silver arrow not in nr200 but in general as i think they will beat d15 & you'll be the first one to review & compare them as thers not a single review on both (test with noctua fans as then it'll be even more epic) Ps: try arctic p12 & P14 they are 10 bucks each &. They are equally matched with a12 & a14 is anyways way worse than a12 so the p14 is anyday better than a14. (so the cost argument is dusted & done for upgraded fans)
@xanman42
@xanman42 2 жыл бұрын
34:07 that was a pretty good reveal
@caribou6023
@caribou6023 2 жыл бұрын
Most tower type air coolers are meant to take advantage of the typical air flow in a case - from front to back. Since the flow of air in this case is bottom to top, did you consider trying to orient the air coolers that way? Would love to know which ones would fit that way and if it had any effect on your results.
@cjmessa9343
@cjmessa9343 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect. Exactly what I'm looking for. So regular 3700 with Fuma 2 as exhaust should be perfect for me rn.
@cjmessa9343
@cjmessa9343 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Sorry for any confusion, did you mean U12A? I don't have any overclocking in the near future.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, totally meant for the comment below!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
The Fuma is perfect for your intended use! You can’t beat it for value.
@Andrew-cp7mc
@Andrew-cp7mc 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore For the Fuma, it sounds like the takeaway is rear and top exhaust with Noctua fans replacement on the cooler, no need for bottom intake fans. Is this correct? Is there space for a 3 fan configuration on the Fuma cooler in rear exhaust setup?
@jarrd
@jarrd 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very informative video, thank you
@manman464
@manman464 3 жыл бұрын
Exaxtly what i was looking for , great video ✌🏼❤
@michaelkeith3842
@michaelkeith3842 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, thank you! Might also be worth putting the European links to amazon, for the products you recommend. I've purchased a few of your recommendations but have not been able to affiliate them with you. Hope it helps, keep up the great work!
@manelmartinez5782
@manelmartinez5782 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis and explanation. Very helpful!!
@PyromancerRift
@PyromancerRift 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the case the other day, i've ordered a fuma 2 and i already have 2 NFA12x25 and 12X15. I will put the thick noctua fans on the fuma 2, i will try to put the slim noctuas in the top, i will see if the toolless pegs can do that. I am planing on geting a 3080 asus TUF, i think bottom fans are a no go with that kind of GPU, but maybe if i can fit the NF A12X25 under the GPU with deshrouding and get back the stock fuma 2, it may help everything in the case. Thank you for testing all the options. Really, thanks.
@dabdoub81
@dabdoub81 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the amazing job you are doing for all if us owner or who is interested in the case, I wish you added u12s gpu temperature there, thanx again.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Actually I did test it, CPU temps came out pretty far down the pecking order and omitted it from the chart to keep things clean. The tested results for the U12S at stock were 50 degrees over ambient for the CPU, and 41 for the GPU, this was in a rear exhaust position with the 92mm fan. It did stay pretty quiet since the fan is capped at 1500rpm so overall noise was just around 48-49 dBA. With a fan swap to two NF-A12s the temps improved to 48.8, similar GPU temps, a hair lower, and noise was closer to 50 dBA at that point.
@dabdoub81
@dabdoub81 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Amazing detailed reply, thanx alot!
@vz3_
@vz3_ 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the C14S for my NR200 and trying to mount my Noctua A12. What clip did you use for this? I tried to use the 140mm clip but it didn’t end well ha
@Elementpunx
@Elementpunx 3 жыл бұрын
There should be extra mounting inbox with C14 for a 120mm fan. (I think its 120mm but I'm sure there is one)
@Rubberglass
@Rubberglass 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video I need! Great work!
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