Cooper Stuff Ep. 212 - Responding to Russell Moore and John Piper

[@stuartjohns3292]

I heard one individual say that we are not voting for the lesser of two evils, but to lessen evil.

[@brandonkeller478]

Has America actually become less evil after following that ideology for a century?

[@vitormenezesdemattos967]

The best comparison i saw was doing a paralel between xerxes and jezebel. Xerxes, an immoral man who helped save the people of God, even tough he was gentile, unbeliever and immoral, was persuaded even tough not as convert, to help the jews. On the other hand we have jezebel, who was an evil anti God, pro idolatry, and immorality (unlike xerxes, she not only was immoral herself, but implemented immorality in her agenda to her kingdom), and against God's ppl (Just like KH... "You're at the wrong rally" anyone?). If Xerxes ran against jezebel in an election and jezebel won, all jews who said "Hey, don't vote. Xerxes' a gentile unbeliever and immoral" completely ignoring that not only his agenda would benefit the ppl of God in spite of that, and that jezebel (whom they never spoke a word against) had a demonic anti God agenda... would be to blame for everything we saw her doing in the bible. Cuz they told the ppl of God that IT WAS THEIR DUTY TO NOT do EVERYTHING possible to keep her away from the throne.

[@smalltownmomma8024]

I think it was Dr Frank Turek!

[@Swimant]

@@brandonkeller478your question is based on a fallacy. That America is evil. I reject the premise. People are evil, policies are evil. Nations are judged by that criterion.

[@becklyn3]

"Was it because there were no graves in Egypt that you brought us out to die in the wilderness?" This is all I hear when I see Evangelical leaders complaining when God grants us some grace/reprieve for a moment. It comes off as complaining about everything.

[@Ricman78]

I saw Moore's true colors a few years back when the ERLC conference was supposed to be about protecting the unborn but they swapped it out for "racial reconciliation." They had a panel of black/white pastors talking about Michael Brown and an older black pastor said part of speaking the truth in love is speaking the truth, since the "Hands up, don't shoot" did not happen in that case. And Moore made some comment about when we talk about it, we have to understand people of color will have a different perspective of the same truth. Whaaaat? Truth is truth.

[@keithwiebe1787]

My God, listen to yourself. Of course people will have different perspectives on the "truth". I can guarantee I have a different perspective than you.

[@zachtdietz]

Appreciate you putting your career on the line to have courage and speak truth.

[@isaacbarry91]

Some Big Eva Leaders can’t handle the heat of what’s happening in the world right now. Thank you John for standing up for truth

[@tinah4208]

"What does it cost you more to stand up for?" Love that!

[@TheMassdaddy]

We cannot love the world and our Lord the same. We must pick a side. The world’s reaction says a lot.

[@alexelhadidy1400]

I love you John. Thank you for continuing to do these videos. I study theology and yet your videos are incredibly helpful in keeping things simple. Thank you so much for using your platform to speak truth. Keep being faithful my brother. I may have to come see you guys next time you’re in my area!

[@MrTnatsni]

I love how humble John is. It is truly inspiring. He says he is not quote-unquote educated like some people in big-eva. Then he'll casually drop words that most of us need a dictionary to define. The best part is that he defines it for us in a way we can understand and then subsequently use in our own conversations. Thank you for your humility, John, and for leading by example. Props brother.

[@Happyhippy1957]

Good message. Enjoyed meeting you a couple years ago at Magic Springs. You prayed for our ministry here at the jail. I have been here as Substance Abuse Coordinator for a year now. Thanks for speaking the truth brother!

[@Alpha7__]

I'm glad you made this Ep. Being on social media, seeing all these huge account and evangelical figures backing Kamala for whatever reasons was driving me crazy. Its good to see and hear that I am not the only one

[@chesneysnyder7074]

Glad to have your wisdom back on KZbin!

[@DaysofElijah317]

Make Wisdom Great Again!

[@downlow0075]

Awesome to see you John Cooper. We missed you.😊❤

[@timbushong4387]

As a confirmed, old, boomer normie, I heartily approve this message. Piper's massive pietist 'slip' is showing from beneath his Calvinist 'skirt,' and Moore's article was one of the very worst takes I have even read, as he threw all of his Christian brothers and sisters under the bus. It must be beyond his range of imagination that we just wanted to be left alone, not going to war in the Middle East and in Ukraine, and Kamala was definitely promising the very opposite. Good material here, John - blessings on you and yours.

[@matthewdyer2926]

Cooper is a Calvinist also, because Calvinism is just Christianity. Piper’s pietism has nothing to do with his Calvinism. Brush up on your Protestant church history, and then brush up on Biblical soteriology.

[@timbushong4387]

@@matthewdyer2926 - You don't know who I am, do you?

[@matthewdyer2926]

@@timbushong4387 Not the slightest, but it seems beside the point; “who we are”-whatever that means- has no bearing on what’s true. Are you a mob boss? A Saudi prince?

[@timbushong4387]

@@matthewdyer2926 - A simple search would suffice. It would serve to demonstrate that you don't know what my "Calvinist skirt" comment really means...

[@matthewdyer2926]

@@timbushong4387 so you’re telling me you’re not a mob boss or a Saudi prince…

[@dustymedlock]

This is so spot on, and so well said. Thank you brother for standing up for Truth with Biblical discernment and grace.

[@bethanyw777]

I so look forward to your podcasts-your diagnosis is usually spot on!! You’re a voice of reason and can see things so clearly. Your love and boldness for the Lord is so inspiring.

[@marysmith9109]

Thank you for addressing this doctrine of demons. I appreciate how you are careful to protect the man but brave to call down the lies. Thank you.

[@forthejourneyencouragement]

Thank you John. The Lord keep you.

[@outboardprsnlstndup]

Also, you don’t have to constantly lavish dudes like piper with all the praise. You did it at the beginning. Great episode, though, and true.

[@bransonboykin4504]

Another great Monday starting with a new Cooper Stuff!!

[@lostmagicofdisney]

"...a rise of the normies. The normal Christians: we're not theologians, we're not brilliant, we don't speak Greek..." 😆 It is an amazing time to be a Christian and to see Father God moving throughout the world. I've been blessed to travel, and I see Him in unexpected places. It's incredible. ❤

[@lwb8326]

My husband was a biblical Greek scholar and biblically and theologically brilliant-and against sin and evil. Voting for Trump was a vote against the glaring sin and outright evil agendas of the Deep State. Trump has his issues but is 100% God's person to stand against the evil policies and ideologies promoted by many in Washington and in this Country. Trump won by God's mercy and grace. Piper has become a disappointment and Russell Moore has taken "Christianity Today" toward progressivisim. I fear for his influence within Christianity.

[@ryanspiva]

I'm glad to see people recognizing and talking about this. God is on the move all around the world. In America, we see an awakening in believers from coast to coast. Love this, love what you do, love your Faith.

[@paulkern2544]

How many are now teaching how faith affects our politics. I don't see a separation of the two in the Bible.

[@paulkern2544]

How do you respond to " we are all God's children"?

[@jseehowitsbeen3177]

@paulkern2544 I’d ask the person who is “we”? Are they talking about true believers being the we, or every human every created? Because the Bible makes it clear that not all humans belong to God in a father adopted child relationship, some belong to the devil.

[@ryanspiva]

By "we," I mean the people. The body of believers in the American dream. One nation under God. By the people for the people. Is it a perfect nation, no. But we just witnessed something in this last election that hasn't happened in a very long time or possibly ever.

[@johndickey6124]

@ryanspiva I’m glad you made that distinction. By "we” you do not include Christians such as myself who know it is an absolute shame that Trump would desecrate the Holy Bible. It’s those christians who seem to have no problem with that.

[@DPwadewilson]

Love Cooper stuff. So glad to have you back. Keep speaking truth.

[@BenjaminRushton-hp5jl]

Great episode! Speaking truth brother! by voting Trump we will have freedom to preach the gospel.

[@melissabrown3976]

I was really disappointed with Piper's response. Wonder if he would have posted the same thing if Kamala was elected...

[@Piccolo_Re]

I’m iffy on Piper ever since I saw him speak at a university and he said to do work for free and not pay attention to being paid for it. While I know he was probably being paid nicely by the university for his speech.

[@JeremyThomasMusic]

As a fellow Christian musician, I always appreciate John’s perspectives, especially because he always starts with God’s word first 🙌. It seems to me big Eva is more concerned with being “seeker sensitive” (which is an ironic phrase considering Psalm 14 says we don’t seek God which Paul also quotes in Romans 3). This leads to a bowing of the knee to pop culture and an ignorance of Gods word in order to stay on the “good graces” of culture. The apostles didn’t do this, they stood up to the Jewish leaders of the time and spoke the Truth of the gospel regardless of the consequences. Acts 4 is a good example: kzbin.info7OfuPTnxij4?si=ZHbFDFhpN4zWeCqF

[@annemcdowell4723]

So encouraging! You have a needed perspective and many of us out here are together in our beliefs. Many of course are not, and its important to bring out the truth and name names even when truth is being suppressed. But im starting to feel like there are alot more of us that care about our country and that God's law is upheld on the streets and in the land than has been in a while. It seemed overwhelming at times. But God is gracious and His word never returns void! May His truth continue to go forth and may He turn hearts back to Himself! Love you all at Cooper stuff!

[@andrewguseman4728]

I couldn't agree more! It's so awesome to go from thinking I'm all alone in my beliefs to realizing there's a lot more like me who know and follow God's word (as best we can). I'm hopeful for the first time in a long time!

[@callforsalt2624]

​@@andrewguseman4728Amen! I second that! We were never crazy for still believing what we always believed. Those of us who tried to push back in our churches and institutions were not the radical ones. The radical ones were those trying to shift and undermine God's laws.

[@chadburtelson9423]

Absolutely sick of wickedness being called righteous and absolutely sick of the injustice. Agree with you brother.

[@Conservative-Dad]

Preach it buddy! Make the church great again

[@brdgamz]

You're a hero of the faith for me, John. I so appreciate you saying all you say.

[@RedeemedRogueMolecules]

Coop. I love ya and you’re based. I think you DO know what the issue is. Deterministic theology leads to nihilism. Lordship theology leads to people being unable to comprehend that God can use sinners to bring about his purposes. I had no idea you had a cast until today. New sub! Hope all is well. The American pulpit is a muzzle. The priesthood of the average believer is more important today than ever.

[@jebo4jc]

Thanks for this John. We're definitely feeling this.

[@callforsalt2624]

You are absolutely right, Russell Moore is the king of drama. But it's drama wielded agsinst his fellow brothers and sisters and an "orange" man that he despises. We join the drama because the stakes are high, justice has been turned upside down, and Big Eva elites hand in hand with the left, have trampled truth in the streets. Sometimes defeating great evil involves great drama. I say bring on the drama!!

[@derekbrown2215]

I'm not sure Russ is a "fellow brother".

[@keithwiebe1787]

@@derekbrown2215 I'm not sure Trump is a "fellow brother".

[@derekbrown2215]

@keithwiebe1787 Yeah but he didn't call Trump one did he?

[@simoneaux15]

@@keithwiebe1787maybe true, but trump isn’t ravenously anti-God and pro-baby killing.

[@Brian-ep9mj]

Raise your hands if you're sick, if you're sick of it!

[@reneemeade552]

👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

[@SachelleCambria]

I’m beyond sick of it.

[@DaysofElijah317]

Surviving the Game!!!

[@WendyWzOpinion]

🤘🎸💪🎶

[@robertslimm9319]

As it says in the Book of Jude, we need to contend for the Faith. Thank you, John.

[@StrawberryJupiter]

Another great episode as usual!! Thank u for another episode this Monday 🎉

[@conservativemama3437]

So glad you’re back!

[@impish22]

such an important discussion, thanks for sharing

[@jwright8838]

Yes, there are discernable moral differences by degree and by topic between the political parties. Denying those differences or pretending that they are simply differences in preference (would you like evil ice cream A or B? ...you must choose one and there's no moral reason to make a distinction) is beneath a man committed to King Jesus. Just look at the platform of each party. If you don't see a moral difference or distinction, then perhaps there are things clouding your vision.

[@michaelsawyer1969]

Psalm 94 Amen, bro - biblical knowledge is not a substitute for a 1 on 1 relationship with Jesus - theologians have become the pharisees - not all, but many

[@zaneshantz298]

Our paster was just speaking on the sons of Issachar, cool to see you bring it up too. Gotta stay awake and alive 💪

[@clintontanis7827]

John, I wholeheartedly believe, you are 100% on point with this whole video. I proudly consider myself a "Normy" not content to remain in foolishness, but I simply believe The Word and unfortunately have experienced and been taught so much error by "smart" educated christian leaders. I believe in the church as God instituted it but in many ways our modern leaders in Christianity have become spiritually impotent and spew nonsense as if it's the actual gospel, forsaking a true, simple understanding of Gods word, thank you for being faithul brother, I've long appreciated your content and have been encouraged by it. Blessings!

[@gideonlingle3520]

Raising my hands right now

[@karenpeterson5780]

Yes!! I totally agree with you. Thank you.

[@forrealthoughbruh]

Big Eva have one purpose: maintain the institution and institutional power to protect their income and their position. I’ve interacted with Big Eva. I have stories and the basis is they dont care about the local church at ALL. They only care about the local church when they want financial support. It’s a one way street because if the local church ever needs anything from the institution “your autonomous. Just figure it out.” but when the institution needs something “we are one church and you must give to support it”. Disgusting.

[@Groovy1965]

I really appreciate this content. This compromised position on sin has been disorienting for me as a believer. This liberalism has spread into our church, my church. Yes, we want to be people of mercy, but not permissive of sins.

[@lillyvba7635]

I actually had an argument with a friend over this very subject. It's amazing how she , as a Christian, rather defend the world and talk about love, instead of defending God's values and God's people. But the bible does talk about this, doesn't it? It will in fact exist a separation within Christianity between those who will choose the world and those who will stand by God's word and will suffer because of it. Let's stay strong. Good word John! Thanks for addressing this.

[@keithwiebe1787]

And 82 percent of white evangelicals chose Trump. Figure that one out. No defending God's word on that alone.

[@sgabig]

@keithwiebe1787 The Democrat party is actively anti Christian & locks up people protesting against the unaliving of babies

[@johndickey6124]

@keithwiebe1787 Amen. These guys are not Christian defending Trump who desecrated the same Holy Bible they are taking about. It’s just sad to see the falling away right in front of us. And pastors like this leading the way.

[@simoneaux15]

@@johndickey6124 is it Christian to defend Kamala? The same one who said Christians were at the wrong rally, for declaring that Jesus is Lord? Is it Christian to defend the candidate that’s pro LGBT+, pro baby killing?

[@sgabig]

@@johndickey6124 How did Trump desecrate any Bible? He held his Bible in front of a church to encourage antifa to not burn it down 🙅 🔥 ⛪

[@christopherdavis1109]

Compelling discussion. Thank you, John. Megan Basham's book, Shepherd's for Sale is fascinating, and its implications troubling. Piper's rational reminds me of the situation described in her book.

[@Dawn388]

One very important thing is being in the word of God always for our lives our prosperity, it doesn’t matter who is president, I am so happy President Trump won but we have work. as a nation we have a duty to keep our representatives and the judicial system the executive system in lines with the Constitution that is crucially important if you don’t believe that that’s sad because it is our duty it’s much like the Bible we read the Bible to be more Christlike, we read the constitution to exercise our liberty. we learn we build, that’s liberty.

[@banemaler]

Jon, I honestly believe we are seeing a realignment in our body politic as well as our religious orders. It is a worldwide phenomena and it has been marked by traditional and national loves over secular globalization. So let us emphasize our Christian faith in these days and watch what the Lord does.

[@GabrielMartinez-su8di]

"Christianity Yesterday" 😂😂😂

[@katearmstrongstudies]

This is basically a sermon, and a good one at that. 🔥🔥🔥

[@briangardner1361]

We're SICK of sin being celebrated

[@jenb2906]

Well said John!

[@KandC6102000]

My brother in Christ, I add my amen. This chat is fire!

[@networktwentythree]

THANK YOU SIR. So very tired of cowardice disguised as moral superiority by guys like Piper. He’s not a wartime pastor.

[@DaysofElijah317]

Peace time hides a lot of enemies within our own ranks

[@timbryant2969]

AMEN!!!

[@timbryant2969]

Great job, John! Although I think Eric Metaxas has the best hot take. Russel Moore is (in my estimation) one of Megan's "Shepherds for sale". I'm just disappointed with Piper.

[@susanjohnson-ek6fh]

More education does not necessarily mean smarter.

[@carriemueller3694]

Amen! Praise the Lord 🙌

[@jason.martin]

Love your comments and thoughts, your always right on the pulse of things.

[@StoryscapeDesign]

100% Mr. Cooper! Nailed it.

[@BrayzenBull]

14:30 John Piper

[@drewpierce9627]

Keep selling out shows and preaching brother!

[@racharooni07]

Russell Moore accuses Trump supporters of everything HE does!! That dude has issues.

[@politixcartoons]

As if less drama is the benchmark. Plenty of countries have little drama. North Korea for instance… when dissent is crushed under the thumb of tyranny, drama goes away. Thanks but no thanks. I’d rather have my freedom, drama and all.

[@ximenalindsey5075]

Big Eva seems to be treading dangerously close to the inroad of deception, as seen in Genesis 3: "Did God really say...?" Forgive us, Lord.

[@brooksklein2195]

Amazing stuff as always. NEW SHIRT IDEA. 'Cooper Stuff' "Fact check True!" lol

[@bethwarnersullivan5299]

And there’s a difference between arrogance and confidence. He may push the envelope, but also I see that changing.

[@alatch7472]

Don’t love that cake more than you love Jesus. Haha hilarious.

[@timolsen8252]

Keep up the good work, brother.

[@Captain_Kirk116]

I have kind of a unique perspective on Russell Moore cuz he used to be one of the associate pastors at my church while he was teaching at Southern Theological Seminary before he left. Whenever he preached, which was every once in a while, I didn't notice anything wrong with his theology but it does seem like he's changed since then.

[@abeautifulmoment2714]

Somebody needs to read City of God by Augustine pronto. Political idolatry is a sin that desperately needs repented of in this nation

[@mandyrobertson4704]

If not for the internet and a couple books in our church library, I wouldn't know who these people are. They may have headship over their own congregations, but not the Christian population at large. Their opinions are just that and we are not obligated to pay any attention to them.

[@emanuelsanders7089]

The problem is that they influence too many pastors which in turn lead congregations astray.

[@laurafox5178]

Pastor Jack Hibbs and Pastor Gary Hamrick are such strong warriors!!! Supported Trump!!!! Best choice not perfect but policies are good. Harris would harm our children etc. Totally disagree with Piper!!! Cooper good discernment and wisdom. ( Pastor's Tom Hughes and James Kaddis and Amir Tsarfati )

[@karryfranks9097]

Sick of it!! Thank you!!

[@TalyaT922]

"Arrogance leads to death" is in no way the same as actual murder leading to death. Piper's view is strangely obtuse and myopic. This is not the first time.

[@DAANBRO]

John, I like the "normies" idea, feels humble and that we're all part of the human race, not needing some extreme secret knowledge or that anyone needs to think they are too low, on the outside. Your music and evangelistic heart (love for any listener) has pointed to Christ in this way. We can all sit on the same bus needing a new identity that raises us into a higher mindset further and further from sin/the flesh. Are you writing a new book coming up with "normies" and "eva's"? :D If you do, please add a chapter about your generation and youngers experiences moving further form normie to Big Eva. Were we made for eva Christianity or can it corrupt us because of pride? Knowledge detached from applying in love, thinking we "understand" when we don't have active experience with our will/transformation, only words/information? In college undergrad I took Religion & Philosophy for a year at a Christian Liberal Arts college and I would say for the most part my confusion went up and my faith in Christ went down. I later went to a local church's Bible Institute for a few classes and might generally say the opposite. When does complicating the simple gospel make us build more of an identity in the flesh just with a different appearance, self-righteousness rather than self-indulgence, instead of building our identity in believing what Christ/the Word says, not what we intellectualize and add to it? Does Big Eva need a new emphasis less on books and sermons, and more on if our true beliefs (revealed in our thoughts and lives) are in Christ and his heart to serve? Which moves us more to being in the truth and in the Spirit--real worship?

[@qwerty-so6ml]

"rise of the normies" -- who rises in Revelation 9? ALLAH = LUCIFER = SATAN = MOTHER NATURE = QUEEN OF HEAVEN = FEMALE RIVAL. Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made this realm. They made man in their image. (tares) Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat) One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.

[@derekcheatham1911]

On Piper's statement...I get it, I really do. You still need to vote. For me, it's a matter of choosing the lesser evil. Now I'm not saying that this is the correct course of action, it's just a course of action. I'm a firm believer in the "if you don't vote you can't complain" mentality.

[@amyscullin9206]

Yes the Lord knows our choices are. We still need to try and stand up for God and our kids.

[@derekcheatham1911]

@@amyscullin9206 100%

[@BrayzenBull]

That mentality is flawed.

[@derekcheatham1911]

@@BrayzenBull agree to disagree

[@ImSoPrecious78]

Amen!! My old pastor was firm on the “if you don’t vote, don’t complain” thing, too, and I have passed that on, as well. 👏🏼 I mean, if all Christians refused to vote for Trump, Harris would’ve had a major victory and we’d all be in big trouble now. God had mercy on us and has given us 4 more years of freedom to preach the gospel, and to speak the Truth. We need to take action and not waste a minute, because we don’t know what we’ll be dealing with 4 years from now.

[@QuixEnd]

its so cool seeing this! you represent without all the ambiguity, better than most franklinites. The hearts intent shouldnt be masked in spirituality or vague sentiments.

[@Cece-ed2rz]

Same martin luther king who did not believe in the diety of Christ

[@brettfilbrun9193]

This is exactly where Christians in America have completely gone off the rails. There's most likely never going to be a politician that is going to embrace all Christian values unfortunately. We as a nation need to forget about looking at the president as our moral compass and vote strictly for the candidates that have policies that line up with our beliefs the closest. I don't appreciate everything that Trump has said, but his policies are better than any I've seen in my lifetime.

[@jwright8838]

100% John...100%.

[@annababcock3948]

Good word John. Thank you!

[@kimsrurallife8775]

Hello from my Wisconsin Farm. Jesus is lord!

[@jholder1966]

I totally agree with you it was so frustrating because I do appreciate Piper .But to somehow think that our leaders have to have the same standards as us it's not gonna happen . I guarantee if the apostle Paul would have had choice in voting he would have ,granted Biden wasn't Nero but ...

[@ronbarnes5111]

Just awesome!

[@GabrielMartinez-su8di]

Great stuff John!

[@Telkor]

It's WAY better to read the Word of God to get to know Him better, than it is to find "proof texts" to use in an argument. The Word of God is here to reveal His thoughts and wants to us. Not so we can learn the Greek and talk down to other Christians.

[@outboardprsnlstndup]

God is greatly testing my patience with the poor discernment of John Piper

[@XDominiqueXFranconX]

Something weird is happening. After Trump won, I’m getting notifications again for your channel, as well as others. Prior, the notifications were suppressed. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@paulkern2544]

In my area many different churches. My pastor going woke. Allied with with Family Life, a Cru group. Cru losing many since it went woke. Had checked out some closer to home. Traditional. Give us your money. Believe all preached and enjoy the " worship" many are going woke or already gay friendly. Single and a veteran. Believer since 1973. The last days ?

[@georgefredericks2699]

Let me encourage you to possibly think on two items: 1. The Jude 4 leader. 2. The Church of Laodicea as the major last days church model. Just a possible thought. Thank you for your video.

[@tulsatoolfool]

Why don't you have a live interview with Mr. Piper and talk this out?

[@dandathomas6852]

Waste of time

[@Marann771]

The people of God will be judged first...wise up!

[@lisafaser6031]

Amen, brother!✝️🙏🏻✝️

[@4624Denise]

I am more shocked and disappointed that John Piper is speaking with The Gospel Coalition that will be partially focused on Side B; Piper and Alistair Begg... very sad.

[@DBlanco48]

Who would piper have had us vote for?! We all know that there is really only Democrats and Republicans.

[@JoshxDude92]

To be fair, I believe Piper pointed out something to do with MLK Jr's theological failings AT that conference and don't think his moral failings were as widely known back then. Unless Piper has been to more MLK Jr conferences since the time I'm thinking of. I hope Seth can fact check me XD

[@harveywillerton6961]

Not Afraid .

[@83vintageme64]

Thank you