Cop Fetish?; Pagani Utopia; THAT McLaren Crash - TST Podcast

[@narumis]

00:00 - teaser 01:41 - intro 02:35 - explaining the reason for the late start and dealing with resource management software 07:30 - a rented van with expired tags, motorcycle cop LARPers, and a dirtbag in an ex-cop crown vic 15:00 - driving the Pagani Utopia 45:17 - the other end of the spectrum with the Elantra N 48:38 - riding the Maeving RM1S and why are electric motorcycles so expensive? 1:04:15 - *that* McLaren crash 1:07:45 - Honda did the thing: an EV with interior ICE fakery Patreon questions: 1:12:41 - share your takes on Chris Harris’ new corduroy interior on his M5 wagon 1:14:19 - have 3000 miles on my Cup 2s, hard miles through the Alps and three laps on the Nürburgring; they have plenty of tread but are seeming to slid around more and feel unsafe, have you noticed a point of degradation on them at a certain milage? 1:17:33 - used Jag F-types seem like the bargain of the century if you want a street GT and not a track tool; on the sports car/GT scale where the Porsche Boxster and the Mercedes SL are opposite ends of the spectrum, where does the F-type land? 1:20:46 - what cars currently on sale do you consider to be future classics? 1:23:27 - watch question: looking at a Zenith Chronomaster revival, I like the design and history; it doesn’t seem to get as much appreciation as other watches, is a quality issue or poor marketing? 1:24:46 - the Half 11 or the Tuthill GT ONE? 1:26:28 - (a friendly reminder to vote) 1:31:03 - which Hyundai vehicle would be the most interesting to get an “N” variant with the Veloster and Kona N now discontinued? 1:31:35 - can you help me make sense of the G Wagen lineup? They now have the 550 & 580 as base models; are they replacing the 63 with the EV? 1:34:20 - thoughts on Aliexpress watches? 1:35:22 - what do you think about APR and turbo swaps/tunes on cheaper Porsche Carreras? 1:37:22 - my brother is in the market for an EV; they’re looking at Nissan Ariya, Hyundai Ioniq, and Chevy Blazer; they live in an area with smaller garages so will there be an issue fitting them inside? And shouldn’t they be smaller so they can fit in all garages for charging? (1:39:26 - additional: are we ever going to make functional vehicles that make sense or is the American consumer generally this strange?) 1:41:06 - do you believe Mazda’s sentiment that they are too “mature” for a Mazdaspeed? 1:42:13 - for a daily driver Ford Explorer, is it still worth it to get the Michelins or is that overkill for the usage? 1:42:44 - what rental car do you usually go for when you have the choice? 1:44:36 - rank every generation BMW M3 1:46:22 - outro

[@Beardman770]

Thanks so much! You're the best!

[@adamfarkas4384]

Love You Brother

[@CarsofGlasgow]

thank you

[@CharlieDB96]

No context moment but Zach's head tilt at "Queer thing" was great visual comedy lol Like a dog trying to understand a weird noise

[@keithrobertson2401]

Speaking of new vehicles not fitting in garages, Cleetus McFarland recently shared on one of his videos that when sharing the plans and blueprints of his new house build he’s doing on his channel. One of his viewers noticed that his new garage plans would basically not fit his Raptor R he daily’s. So he had to go back to the architects add 2 feet to the plans. Luckily they had not poured concrete yet and also had to adjust this new figure so it was still even with his enormous hanger he will have at his new home. Even new homes have issues fitting all that modern vehicle inside!

[@JonathanJohansen-q2f]

When Zack said, "Al Capone the third", I lost it! 🤣

[@Ride__OutRR]

Lol. 😂 "Listen I didn't take your fucking money" "Technically people do pay money"

[@super8hell]

15:24 "IF YOU WANT BACK ISSUES" Oh boy, listening to you guys for years, with all the spine injuries you had, I wondered who wants to have back issues, and how does it relate to R&T. Had a chuckle :D

[@BIGVINNY99]

Weird, this one came before the Tesla announcement podcast but was released after?? Not that I mind, love the show!

[@discoinerror5886]

Gotta post while the algorithm will pump a video.

[@fraserwright9482]

Matt answered why people buy Paganis when he explained the trips they go on. Given that a private jet costs €5-50m this sounds a great way to meet other creative people who don't care about lap times. Hell this is why people bought the FXX

[@fraserwright9482]

Matt feels very self conscious about the Pagani. If wealth itself was a reflection of your role in society regardless of its acquisition, then you would find forfilment in it. Many seek exclusion from society and fear the riot or mob as either jealousy or guilt. Where I think Matt has a hole in himself and the fans quite rightly find jarring. Is he leans into the idea of avoiding paying taxes, Mr Ticket, only going to events as a work tax write off, gloating about avoiding paying for things. He has no responsibility with society itself other than how it makes him feel, not the homeless person in the tent. Every part of that Pagani has had a person employed to extract the elements, build it and the creative people involved to get it there. Its why the bolts cost $95 each and others are happy to buy one.

[@not_super_street]

That face lifted ELANTRA looks 10 times better

[@ukanchumee3446]

Just driving a Crown Vic dressed up as a cop car is a dirt bag move.

[@CarsofGlasgow]

There is a Utopia in Glasgow, seen it last year. Pretty cool to see up close in person

[@Catbert814]

Any Tesla comment will trigger matt. Glad we have Zach with a calm head

[@jaksonmz]

hearing zach mention rule 34 fetish at 6 am was not on my to do list😂😂😂

[@Loothansa]

I bet those Honda EVs will sound more authentic inside than a G80 BMW.

[@MikesLARE]

Hey Zack, there are more Millionaires today and a larger market for Paganis TODAY than there was back in 2004 LOL How could you even assume otherwise?

[@XavierGoncalves89]

Money laundering is a hell of a business

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@XavierGoncalves89crypto and high frequency trading are to blame.

[@Petrospect]

Zondas if I'm not mistaken were 400k? I could be wrong but they weren't multiple millions despite what they're worth now. Ditto F355s, they were about 130k brand new. Now you put those numbers through an inflation calculator and a 296 costs the same but now we're really working with truly silly numbers. But it's true, there are many more millionaires and billionaires now than there were then...

[@BKetch]

@@XavierGoncalves89 How is buying a car money laundering?

[@JK-dl5nt]

Ayy don’t disrespect the e36 like that 😂

[@LapoftheWorld]

I mean it'd be a lot of effort, but I'm sure that cosplay would get them through traffic quicker. I know if I see Charger headlights at night or a white Explorer (cop cars du jour in TN) I'm generally inclined to yield first, re-pass later vs the alternative. Definitely next level having to dress the part though.

[@bvedant]

I'm surprised the Pagani guys didn't want to chase him down and threaten legal action.

[@poisonedpens7390]

It's amazing how the Black Wing gets mentioned every week and like 23 have sold ever. Maybe there's a market for them, somewhere. But I've never seen one on the road and never seen one at a dealer (though all I've ever seen in the dealer lot is the Escalade)

[@dillonh321]

They sell 3k a year.

[@poisonedpens7390]

@@dillonh321 Google AI seems indicate that less than 3000 made but 500 confirmed sold in 2022. The number in 2024 was reported to be 21. So that's a pretty wide spread!

[@aspiratedaloha2946]

I think with the mechanical design elements of HyperCars going the way they are, we are headed for a steampunk-ish era of design.

[@aaronpeterson7318]

No better argument for an electric vehicle to offer a sound profile than a motorcycle. A heard bike is often a seen bike. And yes Matt! I too agree a Porsche greatest hits sound profile suite for their upcoming electric products is a no brainer.

[@fraserwright9482]

I assume no one sees me or hears me given that most cars have A/C, windows up, phone and don't want to be the mid life crisis guy with a loud Motorbike.

[@victorfranco6457]

Are you sure the "cos-play motorcycle cops" aren't movie cops? Meaning, they are active duty or retired cops that work as escorts when shooting commercials, movies, etc. The film industry, prevalent in SoCal, uses them ALL the time...

[@OdyTypeR]

In that dumb, big engined SUV collectible category: I bet the Jeep Wrangler 392 holds value better than the Escalade V.

[@jasonhestand]

Yes it seems Matt started off at second base, but seeing him understand the challenge it takes to make it to home makes him a legit car guy and someone I can relate to. I don’t see him being a silver platter type of guy.

[@G55STEYR]

Quite strange how the price reached 3 milion, I remember when the Zonda was 300.000 AMG M275 engine 3 valve from S65, CL65, SL65 cars, named M159 with dry sump and different turbos, which was shocking in 2003 having 1000Nm torque constant from 2000-4000rpm

[@reinristim2e]

Never watching another episode again, just ads after every 4-5 minutes

[@adogmcdizzle]

I live on a normal income, with little prospect of ever having private jet money and I am quite ok with wealthy people buying as many yachts and Pagani’s as they like. Those people mean these things can exist and others can take pleasure from them and have the opportunity to be involved in their development, manufacture or even see them as an aspirational goal. God bless America. The rest of the world is envious of your freedoms.

[@GarageSupra]

My assumption on how the tires sense the road must be through some kind of hall effect sensor in the wheels looking at the distance of the steel belts in the tyre. However when this happens it would already be too late for the suspension to compensate for it, so it may make an assumption that the road surface has changed so would preemptively adjust dampening for upcoming road. Similar to the TEMS system in the MA70 supra where it changed if you started taking corners hard.

[@ThatGuyJer]

Complaining about income inequality in Matt’s position is crazy. If I met him in person he would probably be the richest person I’ve ever talked to.

[@Pas_Quattro]

Well, I'm glad someone in his financial position is even talking about it

[@CharlieDB96]

@@ThatGuyJer this is one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations There's really no winning when someone could make an issue about it in any direction. If he talks about it he's a hypocrite, if he doesn't, he's out of touch

[@CharlieDB96]

This is one of those "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations If he talks about it, he's a hypocrite, if he doesn't talk about it he's an out of touch elite. He definitely knows how privileged his position is, but admittedly unlike most in his position, he's at least willing to acknowledge others have it much worse

[@aspiratedaloha2946]

The Automotive soup can call. YES

[@trentonfettig7265]

I had a grand cherokee 4xe limited last week as a loner, definitely trash compared to the last gen, WK2.

[@rbxe]

I think of them as Funeral or Motorcade motorcycle cops, they're for hire.... I suspect that covers most of them

[@DanTheMarketr]

Would worry about an electric bike. One of the safety features of a motorcycle is the noise it creates to draw awareness for other drivers around. Electric I would guess is silent.

[@fraserwright9482]

I have never assumed people can hear me or see me on a bike. The midlife crisis guy on a loud bike is a withering flower.

[@Seabass20329]

I don't think I'll ever get Pagani's. F1's and T50's all day, but Pagani has been resting on the laurels of exposed shifter linkage for like 20 years now without pushing any engineering boundaries. Mid tier oligarch mobile.

[@monsieurdildo]

If anybody has big enough laurels to rest on it has got to be Horacio Pagani though… 😂

[@Inventi0ns]

1:12:31

[@JonathanPfaff]

i have extreme headache and my brain feels just like inside broken glass so that i wont be able to sleep and has happened for sixteen years. cant do anything about it. also happens so that i wont be able to go outside easy and ill also get the crappy dreams and my brain and body is hindered to stay in the living room and i can hardly walk to the bedroom to listen to the t.v. and wen i lay on the bed my entire body feel snapped in the weird different positions. its like just suddenly the garbage poison pluto the rubber peoingy crashed eyes feeling. make it stop please.

[@conspicuoustraverser7375]

🧑🏾‍💻im here, 👍🏾

[@WestsideCollectorCarStowage]

Now get out!

[@9697JAY]

Matt loves to complain about people being able to afford Pagani’s, yet was born into a $30M+ family. Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

[@MrRaitzi]

He is an idiot. Full blown TDS also

[@S197_Ignite]

Are you retarded? He can’t choose who his parents are, but he can choose his opinions. Which are correct in this instance.

[@withintheglass2170]

SHUT UP. He frequently admits he comes from wealth but also worked hard to get where he is now

[@thedarkenergist]

I have a weird feeling that if the kinds of folks that posted these comments were given $30M, they probably wouldn't mention income inequality. They probably wouldn't know it exists. Your comment also proves his point. If he was born into $30M family and STILL can't afford to drop Pagani money, that kind of proves how insane income inequality has become. $30M ain't shit to a person spending $4M on a *CAR*

[@9697JAY]

@@thedarkenergist his dad could swing a Utopia if he wanted to

[@JonathanPfaff]

im having crappy dreams and i think its going to give an unfair automatic pluto nightmare. i dont know how you get out of it🫂👩‍👩‍👦👨‍👨‍👧‍👧. make it stop please.

[@williamgechtman9287]

We no longer have kings and noblemen to commission projects that require craftsman who spent decades honing their ability until they are the very best that can be found. They are not here today to be patrons to artists, be they painters, or sculptors, or composers. Perhaps one of the few redeeming things about a system that allows for the truly wealthy is that you can continue to ensure the craftsmanship and artistry that existed 2, 5, or 7 centuries ago will still exist this century, and perhaps the next.

[@JonathanPfaff]

in my thighs by the inner crotch is constantly, violently clicking beside the bone and all over my legs. my body is made of zero muscle and would look like a skinny jelly fish trying to lift up a car and its hard to make it home because my legs and whole body needs energy, i cant lift groceries even on a sunny day because the meat that makes up my arms is as weak as a jelly fish and if my arms would have had a brain in them i would say it looks kind of like brain damage meat. make that horrible violent body clicking stop please. and make the crappy dreams stop from happening please.

[@SpontaneousEvolution]

Matt driving a Bentley, brand new 911, Countach and more, complaining about wealthy Pagani owners sums up dumb liberal logic. Stick to car talk guys.

[@toddr3093]

His Bentley is 30 years old and worth

[@SpontaneousEvolution]

Bentley represents the rich, it's basically a Rolls Royce. He owns multiple cars, businesses, expensive watches, fills his podcast with adverts to make money and then shits on wealthy people who buy Pagani's. Idiotic.

[@neilturner6749]

@sz-4b0B9Ispontaneous ejaculation, or whatever his KZbin handle is, is a prick who can’t be reasoned with, so I wouldn’t even bother responding further mate.

[@technom3598]

Yup. Limousine liberal at its finest.

[@SpontaneousEvolution]

@sz-4b0B9I he said how horrible it is that people can drive past homeless people in a $3mil car, that it shows what's wrong in the world. But I guess it's okay he drives past them wearing his Rolex and driving his $150k 911

[@magalengo]

Matt criticizing a multi-million dollar vehicle when he owns a Lambo,Bentley,Porsche etc. The ultimate in liberal hypocrisy 😂

[@RoDKnee_Kapp985]

Matt is the type of guy to think Kamala is a fantastic choice for POTUS

[@CM-yy9bc]

Found the magatard lol

[@trevormatyskiel6592]

The millionaire point out income inequality . . . Again

[@Bob_Smith19]

Matt’s elitist ignorance is on full display again. AliExpress has a bunch of watch brands that rival other Micros and even some of the legacy brands. They are not luxury brands but they don’t pretend to be. San Martin is the perfect example of this. I am not a fan but there’s no denying you get a lot for your money. Great finishing, good specs and Seiko movements. If you don’t have a lot of money than AE watches are great. After all the point of a watch is to tell time. It’s not to flex on your liberal friends.

[@reaper-sz5tm]

Matt likes to pretenr modesty and frugality but he is very much a snobby 1%.

[@phattiger1506]

I have to disagree regarding Aliexpress. Yes, there is a lot of garbage there, and I can see how that would be someone's experience, but for pretty much any product category there are also extremely high quality products and components available.

[@adogmcdizzle]

Matt and Zach just don’t understand economics. Rent controls are a disaster. Lobbying for something doesn’t make it inherently right or wrong, read some history of rent controls in New York and the actual impact. The free market built the west, and now socialism is helping tear it down. There was plenty of equality in the soviet union.

[@fraserwright9482]

What you are describing is an oligarchy, a small group of very rich people unduly influencing a market for their own gain. You are also misunderstanding socialism with communism.

[@adogmcdizzle]

@@fraserwright9482 I misunderstand nothing.

[@fraserwright9482]

Let me put in a way that even you can understand, California and NJ have a progressive tax structure, so the higher earners pay more tax. If they leave then the state itself has less income, Cali at the moment has a $75b shortfall. So instead of the State spending statically on social structure when things are bad, reducing homeslessness and crime which affect both rich and poor even in one of the highest GDP per capita States in the world. The states that benefit from the exodus from Call are Texas and Florida who have affordable housing, better social services and can pay their workers less because they don't have as high income to outgoings as the California workers do. In Cali there is a fixed 2% property tax regardless of value, you only move into a higher tax bracket when you sell, which restricts the flow of real estate in both residential and commercial real estate as wealthy older owners are incentivised to not sell and rent this at higher current values making entry to California a poor choice for business and low income workers. As the "socialism" model of Texas illustrates.

[@adogmcdizzle]

@@fraserwright9482 what has any of that got to do with rent controls?

[@fraserwright9482]

If you own property in California you are incentivised not to sell which reduces the supply, you are also incentivised to hinder any construction, if you do sell you are incentivised to leave Cali by your tax updating. If you do build you are building for the highest yield rent possible as the supply of property sites are small and because this is not aimed at making it affordable my aim as a developer is to maximise ROI. The state itself wants this as they get higher tax from a multi million property investor than a single home owner or renter. Other places have discouraged this by making construction companies fit multiple income in one place or allowing luxury apartments if they build a ratio of affordable housing. Other steps make more than 2 properties a higher tax rate or home ownership for people who are not living there uneconomical to cool off the investment aspect. Yes capping it won't fix the property market long term as this will make it less appealing to developers as there is a small supply of locations, but nor will letting it go unhinged as this is being paid for by businesses and residents in higher wages to fuel an overheated property market. It's not as simple as shrugging and saying it's this or Communism

[@robertowens7652]

Whats with all this hate for Musk? Ok his Cars arent pefect, and it takes longer to deliver on them. That doesn't seem worth all the anger Matt throws at Musk.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Elon fired his wife when he took over Twitter.

[@Hondaguru1122]

“Maga”. How’s your country? How has it been? 😉

[@technom3598]

Yup. The anti maga shit is old

[@RoDKnee_Kapp985]

Matt has become that meme of that liberal lesbian screaming her head off 🤣

[@technom3598]

@@RoDKnee_Kapp985 100%. I still enjoy his car stuff. But damn dood shut up about the politics.

[@RoDKnee_Kapp985]

@@technom3598 I concur 1000%

[@CM-yy9bc]

Awww sad magatard