Cordless Plunge Saw Comparison! [2021] || Makita, Dewalt, Festool, Bosch & Metabo track saws]

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Oz Tool Talk

Oz Tool Talk

2 жыл бұрын

oztooltalk compare all the cordless plunge saw offerings available in Australia.
All tools feature brushless, variable speed motors. Units are tested for power, cut quality and user experience.
Festool TSC 55K 18V:
www.totaltools.com.au/178723-...
Blade Size: 160mm
Cut Capacity on Rail: 51mm
Weight: 4.6kg
Paired Battery: 5.2Ah x 2
Kickback Stop
Makita DSP600 / XPS01:
www.totaltools.com.au/122525-...
Blade Size: 165mm
Cut Capacity on Rail: 52mm
Weight: 4.6kg
Paired Battery: 5Ah x 2
Dewalt DCS520:
www.totaltools.com.au/115213-...
Blade Size: 165mm
Cut Capacity on Rail: 51mm
Weight: 4.7kg
Paired Battery: 6Ah Flexvolt
Bosch GKT 18V-52 GC:
www.totaltools.com.au/154458-...
Blade Size: 140mm
Cut Capacity on Rail: 46mm
Weight: 4.1kg
Paired Battery: 8Ah ProCore
Metabo KT 18 LTX 66 BL:
www.totaltools.com.au/173156-...
Blade Size: 165mm
Cut Capacity on Rail: 61mm
Weight: 4.3kg
Paired Battery: 5.5Ah LiHD

Пікірлер: 170
@9421samuel
@9421samuel 2 жыл бұрын
I abuse track saws every day as a kitchen installer, constantly cutting panels of various thicknesses and materials. Composite, chipboard, MDF, aluminum faced laminate, really anything goes. Had many track saw, only one that lasted for more than a year is DeWalt. It's been dropped and got wet many times. As long as you keep changing blades and occasionally tightening track guides, the thing just cuts perfect and true all day long. I go through three 6ah batteries a day - that's a lot of cuts, no other battery saw so far can keep up with this workload every day.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
wow, that's great feedback, cheers Jan
@timpayne7676
@timpayne7676 Жыл бұрын
I’ve only used the Festool and the DeWalt. For me the Festool wins hands down. But I think in the UK the DeWalt is a lot cheaper. Especially if you already have the DeWalt batteries. The DeWalt range is second to none so I have no issue with that preference.
@bret9741
@bret9741 Жыл бұрын
The Dewalt, in my opinion is the Dewalt truly needs to be updated but Dewalt isn’t going to take the time or spend the money to do so. I own a construction company. All of our trim crews run either Festool or Makita. This isn’t because they dislike Dewalt. 100% of them run Dewalt table saws, Dewalt 780 miter saws, and the majority run Dewalt cordless power tools or Milwaukee cordless power tools. I have used the Makita for several years but sold it last week. I’m trying to decide on the replacement and am watching reviews.
@spencerp7048
@spencerp7048 2 жыл бұрын
Been excited for this for ages! Thanks for your hard work! Love your content lads
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! cheers Spencer
@khuongathebounga4141
@khuongathebounga4141 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thanks for all your hard work!!
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@colinwilson8747
@colinwilson8747 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, guys. As unbiased as you could possibly be. I have the Bosch and Makita but everytime I see a comparison with Festool included I want to go and buy one. In one way glad I did as the new model is even more fantastic with the kickback feature. Cheers and keep up the good reviews.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin (Mike)
@mrpoopypants9586
@mrpoopypants9586 2 жыл бұрын
Great review guys. I love my Makita, but they are so good to use it makes me want to spend the extra just to get the Festool groove. Funny how they can be so enjoyable to use. Love your stuff. Very helpful. Cheers PP
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
cheers mate, both awesome units.
@OurBuild
@OurBuild 2 жыл бұрын
Great edit as always guys 🤙
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James 😁😁
@squirtdaddy3428
@squirtdaddy3428 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your review and comparrison. I'm American living in Asia so have access to most brands if I can afford the shipping. I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee so I bought the Makita 40v about a month ago, I really think it's the same saw just reconfigured for 40v rather than 2-18v. Once I replaced the blade I loved the saw, I HATE thin kerf blades on anything because of there flexing. I cut a lot of melamine and I use the scoring feature on the Makita and pull the saw backwards for the first cut then foreward for the complete cut and get chip free cuts on the top even when blade is kinda dull. You made No mention of this feature, and was wandering what other saws have this feature besides Festool. It is a great feature especially if you cut melamine which is a hard material to cut,, chip free. I prefer ATB over TC blades for most all cutting, they do dull faster but make a much better cut ( even with less teeth) in my opinion. I have bought Makita tracks that when attempting to join them it's impossible to get a perfect match just because the extrusion is slightly different so they must have shims put under the joiners in order to line up. If you place all three of the tracks on a flat surface and bring them together at the ends so they touch all 6 ends are made slightly different and using a micrometer all measure different thicknesses by as much as .0013 which is enough to cause problems when sawing if they are joined together. So Makita needs to fix this problem .
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
awesome comments, thanks squirt. i don't think the others have a scoring feature specifically. can't people just set the depth to 1-2mm though and achieve the same thing?
@Jaijay35
@Jaijay35 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison boys, after extensive research I really wanted the Mafell but like you said no availability in AUS, from what I've seen they are on another level above the Festool. In the end purchased the new Festool with the anti kickback in the kit, wow what a tool excellent in every way I don't think you can ever be disappointed with a Festool product.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@thomasmikael
@thomasmikael Жыл бұрын
mafell supplier in Melbourne carrum downs. expensive thou but worth it.
@alecfoulkes187
@alecfoulkes187 6 ай бұрын
Great review, I'm on the dewalt 18v platform looking at upgrading to a few flexvolt tools and was going to go dewalt, but also been left handed as well I've crossed that off my list. Hikoki are releasing the 36v witch looks identical to the Metabo but a higher voltage. So I think that's the one. Plus they do the battery 1/2 router. Amazing video and thanks for helping me decide.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 3 ай бұрын
Glad I could help
@mintslice2214
@mintslice2214 2 жыл бұрын
great review guys, thanks!
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers pal
@samroberts453
@samroberts453 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good review. Just a note on cut quality - Festool has a scribe depth setting for 1st cuts in materials like melamine and how can makita get a decent score in cut quality when the thin kerf blade runs off in one of your tests. The Makita blade struggles to not wonder off when cutting any hardwood thicker than 20mm, defeats the purpose of using a straight rail.
@adventureawakened
@adventureawakened 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the reviews boys. Have used festool a fair bit, makita as well, but own dewalt saw. Have multiple platforms I run, including Milwaukee ( bit of a tool fiend really), so that wasn’t the deciding factor for me. There were 2 reasons What was the first, and which I didn’t notice in your review, is the fact that the dewalt can be laid down on its guard so the saw can cut horizontally ( see the two black glides) and used to cut down doors that are already hung. (Yes you can actually use a track saw without a track😂😂😂😂) And secondly, the blade is one of the closest to the edge of the guard out of all the saws. Allows cuts approximately 10-13 mm away from a wall if used hand held. Did I mention the double sided track 🤔 Keep up the great work fellas 👍
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Great feedback thanks clansman!
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting on Milwaukee to release a track saw for years now. We got teased with some rumors earlier this year, but nope. I won't wait much longer. I want a blade left track saw, dammit! WTF aren't there any of those. Kreg makes a corded version, but I don't want a corded saw and wouldn't get into another battery platform if Kreg had a proprietary battery anyway. I've almost sprung for the Makita several times and may just cave and get it. One of the features I really like is the Festool model that stays attached to the track for precise portable fast cutting. I believe if Milwaukee came out with a left bladed, track retained saw, they'd instantly get a huge share of the track saw market. But what do I know? Haha! Keep up the great work gents!
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the comment Mike
@redstihl9027
@redstihl9027 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the flexvolt as a 1st fix tracksaw for ripping OSB and flooring etc
@mattryan1986
@mattryan1986 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review guys but a couple of key things I think you missed. The metabo has a larger cut capacity than the rest at 66mm. Also the track system employed by bosch and the identical mafell and also by the looks of it the metabo is not only much quicker to join but also totally 100% accurate as its self aligning. When joining the makita/festool rails you need to do so with a straight edge held against both rails whilst tightening the grub screws to guarantee straight accuracy. For the record I own and use a makita 36v on festool rails and a mafell 240v which I love both for different reason. The mafell is the best on the market and mafell/bosch rail system is far superior
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
hi Matt. thanks for the feedback. The Metabo's cut capacity is the largest, but is 61mm on the track (66mm off track). That is covered in the spec sheet we provided but we can't talk about everything, and I don't personally think that is a big deal. The joiner of the Metabo and Bosch is cool. we have a separate post on Instagram all about tracks which may(?) talk about this, can't remember. Cheers
@mrpoopypants9586
@mrpoopypants9586 2 жыл бұрын
The TSO joiners are great for the makita / festool tracks. Self-aligning, accurate & easy. No straight edge. Easier than trying to handle a 3m track. The festool guide rail square in Australia is the TSO square rebadged but the joiners are not and seem to have problems. I don't get why makita didn't put a separate measurement on the plunge depth to allow for the thickness of the track, like festool. They're all pretty nice, though.
@davetaylor4741
@davetaylor4741 2 жыл бұрын
Don't like much Festool but have used their track saws a fair bit. Superb. Can't afford one though. The other I would like to try is the 40V Makita. That looks like one hell of a saw.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
cheers Dave
@jrsuk1170
@jrsuk1170 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like festool but I use their cordless track saw. It's a ball ache having 4 festool batteries dedicated just to that saw because I don't use anything else festool. I'm getting the 40v makita as soon as I can in England.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrsuk1170 (mike) You def need to assess how the battery situation works for you, if you have other Festool gear its a NO BRAINER. Always interesting to see what people run and why. 👌🏻
@ibisman1593
@ibisman1593 2 жыл бұрын
I LIKE, looking forward to your next video.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
cheers Ibis
@owenbinaisse7371
@owenbinaisse7371 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys love your reviews, keep it up you're both doing a great job. l don't know if you are aware that Makita have released a 40v tack saw into their new XGT platform as of late [SP001 GZ03 ]. Being you have done a lot of work to get this review to you tube it may have snuck under your noses without you knowing. I have a cordless Makita TS for three years now and very happy with it, [ for many reasons ] If you use the "Makita silencer specialised " blade for melamine it cuts perfectly with no chip out. see ya later
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
hi Owen. it was released JUST before we made the video public, a couple of months after filming :/
@Sgten01
@Sgten01 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got the dewalt and you guys are right about the blade, i put Diablo in my saw and it made it way better. It makes basically factory grade cuts now and slices through just about anything with ease. I love the plunge mechanism actually. With my 9ah batteries runtime is unreal. Its definitely very powerful. In regards to lack of 45 degree stop, I always use my square to set the saw to 45. Just dont trust stops when you only have one shot at making a cut. Overall dewalt is definitely not the best track saw buts its right up there in terms of accuracy. If you’re already on the platform i wouldnt get another brand tbh, not enough of a jump to make it worthwhile unless its Mafell.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback Sgten, love to hear it! :)
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk quick question, what do you think about the cordless Mafell track?
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk I don't understand how the Mafell track saw wasn't included?
@glen2560
@glen2560 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. DeWalt makes great tools, but their blades have always been crap.
@histguy101
@histguy101 Жыл бұрын
How does a diablo blade fit on a track saw? Do you mean a Freud industrial?
@dfs7979
@dfs7979 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I went through a journey of track saws last year. Started off purchasing the corded Makita but returned it due to a bowed track. I also wasn't a fan of the lack of a riving knife and the extremely short cord. I then went to the new Kreg corded saw which was OK however the saw doesn't bevel correctly so it will put a 45 degree cut in your splinter guard which makes it useless for 90 degree cuts. I finally went with the Festool TS 55 K that you reviewed and I agree it's a dream to use. I love the bluetooth integration with my CT MIDI-I. I believe you can also hack together a switched outlet using the legacy CT bluetooth module. I only found two negatives. First, I wish it still had a riving knife although it's not a huge deal because of the kickback protection. Second, I had to add a whole new battery platform. I'd like to think I would go with Makita cordless everything if I had to do it all over again however only the new 40v Makita has kickback protection and their platform is missing a lineup of decent nailers as well as some specialty tools like a pex expander. I suppose the days of being on a single platform are gone. Even within a brand you'll have different voltages....
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
cheers TK. yeah it's not really possible to have the best of everything on one line!
@mikewaters6980
@mikewaters6980 Жыл бұрын
Just curious, are you sure the Makita 40v has kick back protection? I would grab one if it did but when I rang Makita, they told me it didn’t. Unless I spoke to someone who didn’t know.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk Жыл бұрын
It definitely does. My boss has one on site and it performs really well 💪
@mikewaters6980
@mikewaters6980 Жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk Very cool. Thanks for letting me know.
@paul2803
@paul2803 2 жыл бұрын
Passed Total tools today and called in for a look at the Bosch. Spoke with the Bosch salesman who happened to be in store and praised the Bosch (as he should)...Untill it came to the blade...The only replacement blade in store that fitted this saw was a bosch @ $149
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a real bummer atm :/ (Mike)
@Ana-qd7zh
@Ana-qd7zh 2 жыл бұрын
The price here in the USA is much more reasonable at a high of $70 USD before 20%-25% Bosch accessory discounts which are fairly frequent. Sometimes the go much cheaper on Amazon: I got a couple for $30 USD for the 48-tooth blade, and $20 USD for the 24-tooth blade. Only those two blades are available right now here, not any of the specialty blades.
@elusivemite
@elusivemite 2 жыл бұрын
Owned my ts55 for 8 years. Been back to the shop once. Of the cordless is similar I'd give it a 5 for useabiity too. However always found it gutless and moved to 110v DeWalt for heavier work. Prefer the plunge on it tbh. But concur I hate the depth adjustment. The bevel wouldn't irritate me as much but it does itself up when trying to adjust. Just grabbed a flexvolt after my fes finally died. My old 18v DeWalt got me out of a hole with lion adapter's this week.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
cheers for the feedback!
@owenbinaisse7371
@owenbinaisse7371 2 жыл бұрын
Also guys Makita have released recently a40v 185mm circular saw HS004 GZ into their XGT line up with a base capable running on existing tracks. Been a lot of 40v XGT release of new tools lately.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
oh that's awesome!
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks 10 ай бұрын
Mafell is a good one, it’s truly the king of track saws with every offering in my humble opinion
@johanneso6083
@johanneso6083 9 ай бұрын
Guess I´m late to the party, but I think Makita isn´t off dephwise. For some reason the scale seem to be without a track. Mine was exactly the same and there is a 3d-printable small add-on on thingiverse to fix just that. I really enjoy your reviews!
@FixitFingers
@FixitFingers 2 жыл бұрын
Awesomes. Can't quite justify it for now, running the Kreg Accu-track system with the Makita 18V BL. Half the price, one less tool in the bag, but misses the true plunge experience. Once set up she goes alright.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that's a pretty decent middle solution ...
@timmortimer5726
@timmortimer5726 2 жыл бұрын
Love the quality of the festool but the metabo is a big winner for me aswell because it has a cordless m class vac
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Quite a few brands have a cordless m class vac too 💪
@HDBoyWonder
@HDBoyWonder 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if DeWalt’s newer 54v battery design with the flat and stacked cells (when they inevitably become available) will allow the company to scale down the battery’s external dimensions by a few millimeters to allow more room around the handle.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
possibly....
@brandonbowen2733
@brandonbowen2733 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the run time like on the festool running 1/2 batteries, I’m really debating getting one and I’m heading towards the cordless route rather than corded, but I’m trying to work out if just 2 batteries would be suitable for me depending on how long they last in the saw. I won’t use it continuously but it’s like maximum of 10 cuts at a time on decorative multi panel board (1.2x2.5) thanks!
@antzanton4842
@antzanton4842 2 жыл бұрын
Festool have a new track joiner coming that’s supposed to keep it straight It’s a shame you just missed the Makita 40 volt it would have been interesting to see if they improved it
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure. It certainly didn't appear to have changed in terms of feature set or usability.
@timpayne7676
@timpayne7676 Жыл бұрын
Metabo are very underrated tools in my opinion.
@PressureWashProAU
@PressureWashProAU 2 жыл бұрын
Guys you over looked a feature in the Dewalt that all of the other saws do not offer.. it’s the only saw out if the saws you reviewed that had the ability to under cut skirting boards.. you flip it on it’s side hence the parallel protectors in the blade guard.. i think its a 12mm under cut.. the saw you reviewed also has tool Connect so it’s ready to roll with Dewalt dust extraction 🍻
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
cheers Ben
@KallDeRon4345
@KallDeRon4345 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Are there models available with the blade on the opposite side? Don’t like look over the saw and operating with my left hand.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a blade-left plunge saw.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 жыл бұрын
Kreg makes corded version
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting to see what things cost across the world, in Canada the price spread is way different
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that's interesting, and the reason we don't usually score price :D
@simoncloutier6681
@simoncloutier6681 2 жыл бұрын
like the video, next time can you compare the cleaness cut with the same blade on every saw that will make the comparaison apple to apple
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch the whole video. We talked about this at length. There are no blades that fit them all.
@lachlankren4231
@lachlankren4231 Жыл бұрын
hey guys, great vid!! I'm heavily invested in the dewalt platform atm but am open to dipping into the makita system for a few tools . I'm currently deciding between the 36v makita, 54v dewalt and the corded festool. would replacing the blade on the dewalt fix the results from your first cutting test with all the tear out? and which would you guys go for?
@trashes_to_treasures
@trashes_to_treasures Жыл бұрын
Hey Lachlan, although I am not one of the Oz Tool Talk Team, here’s my two cents: I have worked a lot with the Festool corded and worked with the DeWalt corded. Besides that, I have seen most of the track saw reviews and tests available on YT. The festool is a blast, no question. The Dewalt is great, too, especially with a different blade. Check ten square metre workshop‘s channel here to get more insight into this saw. The makita has got a lot of good reviews so far, but the blade deflection was mentioned several times. In my opinion, with the festool you get: 👍 absolutely great precision, super clean cuts 👍 good power 👍 one of the best UXs on the market 🤨 a premium price line (for a premium tool, to be fair…) With the Dewalt you get a mix of really good engineering with really bad design decisions, based on: 👍 great power 👍 a great UX on the plunge mechanism (once you get used to the plunge mechanism, you gonna love it. Your wrist will not have to move with the saw but stay in the same position through the whole cut. And to be fair, you won’t be using 5 different track saws all day long, so that comparison doesn’t count here in my eyes) 👍 a top performance battery platform with an enormous variety of tools 🤨 as mentioned, a really strange UX with the bevel settings - who doesn’t add stops at 45 degrees and doesn’t include a minus 1 bevel these days? 🤨 an unusable saw for left handed people (the corded one doesn’t have that problem though since there is no battery to crush your knuckles) 🤦‍♀️ an absolute fail at 45 degrees: when you tilt the saw to 45 degrees, the cut line will no longer align with the 90 degree cut line on the track but will be some mm off. My personal biggest wtf moment with this saw. Again, this does not apply to the corded version which stays in line no matter if 90 degree or any other bevel. I have the DeWalt platform on all my 18/54V tools, but I won’t buy the cordless track saw. If the offset cut line, the missing 45 degree stop and the not really good dust collection were not a deal breaker, the impossibility of use for lefties like me is it. After all my research, the winner is the Metabo. Precision is great, power is great, UX is great, it’s on the CAS, uses one battery only (can be super annoying charging two batteries with only one charger…), the price is great. To me personally, there is no reason to get a festool or a mafell. I might have the money, but I don’t use a track saw every workday for 8 hours a day. If that was the case, I’d get a mafell. My most important points are: • accuracy • power • ease of use • one battery instead of two • price As mentioned, they all might have their pros and cons, but for me, the metabo is the best overall deal. Hope that helps 🙂
@lachlankren4231
@lachlankren4231 Жыл бұрын
@@trashes_to_treasures hey man, thank you so much!! You’re an absolute legend for writing all this up for me. It’s been a hard choice as I am on the dewalt platform too! Only thing is I don’t want to over invest in the cordless festool hence the corded option vs the 54v dewalt. I wouldn’t be using it every day but when I do want to use it, it could be outside on jobs, could be in the workshop cutting timber down for furniture which I’d prefer cleaner and more accurate cuts so I think the festool is the way I’m going to have to go, even could see if I could pick up a cheap dewalt to try out first and then maybe getting the festool later on sale Thank you again! I really appreciate it
@trashes_to_treasures
@trashes_to_treasures Жыл бұрын
@@lachlankren4231 hey Lachlan, thank you for your words. I think this is what KZbin should be for - sharing knowledge and helping each other out 🙂 Yes, getting a used Dewalt Saw to test (and verify / falsify the offset!) might be a good option. Your requirements sound basically like the ones that I have - not in daily use, very accurate cuts are needed sometimes, but not on a daily basis. I can only repeat myself: check out the Metabo (Model KT 18 LTX 66 BL) if you haven’t already. I watched a lot of reviews of many different plunge saws currently on the market, and this one seems like the best overall deal to me. I currently could even afford a mafell, but honestly, why should I buy it? If I am honest with myself, I’d never fully use it to the extent it is actually capable of. I think about the same goes for the Festool. It’s a beautiful saw made for everyday professional woodworkers; so if you’re trying to find a good excuse to satisfy your fetish and get it, I’d be totally with you 😇 I’ll buy the metabo once my job is finished and payed and hope I get what I am expecting. Curious which one you will get. Maybe let us all know in a review video!
@aidanclarke3880
@aidanclarke3880 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review fellas, what are you thoughts on the 40v makita that just came out? Tossing between that and the festool because of the ability to run off 1 battery
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
haven't tried one, but it looks SUPER similar to the 18x2. I would personally prefer the Festool for it's precision and user experience. check out this review from one of my favourite youtubers - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpS9eHqErreordk
@markjarman7819
@markjarman7819 6 ай бұрын
I had the dewalt and it was my first track saw. Power it’s awesome but for me that’s a full stop. Horrible cheap knobs and awkward to adjust. And the blade change is a complete disaster. Didn’t find the track that bad but the splinter guard is junk. Sold and bought the cordless festool and although not perfect is miles ahead of dewalt. The Bosch looks a good saw.
@maf2018
@maf2018 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Mafell Exist?😄 great video!
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
of course, but not supported in Aus
@KDD0063
@KDD0063 Жыл бұрын
I like a lot of the metabo tools but often there is no 120v version available for purchase in canada.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk Жыл бұрын
that sucks
@Telecontari
@Telecontari 6 ай бұрын
I would like to say that Bosch is lighter than its competitors while doing all these, and it is not always just rough work.
@rambofpv4402
@rambofpv4402 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a dewalt user and it was tough to see them lose but I completely understand and agree. The festool really is the daddy here.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
fair enough Rambo ;)
@slasher9883
@slasher9883 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Wonder if a Makita XGT 40v is in the works?
@joes2318
@joes2318 2 жыл бұрын
It is. It has either just come out or coming out very soon in Australia.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it has JUST come out :/ goddamit ;) haha. I think the Scott Brown Carpentry did a review on it? Maybe have a look. I'm guessing it's a very similar unit to the 18x2.
@jronmanbuilds
@jronmanbuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee has confirmed a track/plunge saw in January for North America??? Where did you hear about this? Also what brand is coming out with a bluetooth battery? I know DeWALT had one at one time but they have switched to a different system.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
our lips are sealed I'm afraid ;)
@NicK-gz7tt
@NicK-gz7tt 2 жыл бұрын
We should have used the xgt by makita lads… it certainly is out now and should be compared!
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't out at the time of filming 😬
@jamesbarber8709
@jamesbarber8709 2 жыл бұрын
I know Makita has a feature to do a 5/64" pre cut for a very fine cut. Do any others offer this?
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, we'd need to check. Thanks (Mike)
@jesse7055
@jesse7055 Жыл бұрын
Does the DeWalt run on other brand rails???????
@jesse7055
@jesse7055 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I just got an ozito track for mine
@lowfatedes
@lowfatedes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the Bosch 18V platform, but the 46mm straight cut depth is (just) too shallow for my work, meaning that the saw is useless to me
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
why would you use a track saw for such thick material regularly?
@lowfatedes
@lowfatedes 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk we make and install period timber windows and doors. They are regularly 46-48mm thick to match existing detail and accommodate double glazing. Bottom rails are cut on a bevel (usually 7-10°), so effective cut depth is reduced, plus we cut on a track. The Festool TS 55 does the job though
@reecefaloon3239
@reecefaloon3239 2 жыл бұрын
Has the bosch & metabo got the same track, would they be able to be used on the other ones track system?
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
check out our Instagram for a full post on all track/saw compatibilities. short answer: Bosch (and several others) can work on Metabo, no other saw can work on Bosch's track.
@reecefaloon3239
@reecefaloon3239 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk just checked it out thank you👍
@danielg1550
@danielg1550 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk that is not correct. Metabo will also fit on Bosch track.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielg1550 Hmm, that's disappointing that we missed that. We had ALL the gear there and didnt pick up on that, thanks
@timpayne7676
@timpayne7676 Жыл бұрын
And I’ve got to say. If you haven’t got a track saw, get one, you won’t regret it.
@cjfitness2804
@cjfitness2804 2 жыл бұрын
Why is metabo so under utilised? It blows my Milwaukee stuff away in term of quality and just how it feels while using it. Even down to how it feels when pressing tge trigger.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
its great gear, I also think it's very underrated and underutilised.
@robincameron4595
@robincameron4595 Жыл бұрын
The Dewalt has Bluetooth as well
@venture17fly
@venture17fly 2 жыл бұрын
If you're testing units for "power" why not try cutting something like aluminum? Wood is so soft it really isn't much of a torque test. Good video though!
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Cutting through 40mm of hardwood is PLENTY hard enough, and much tougher than cutting through aluminium sheet. Having said that, I'd always advise cutting through alu slowly...
@juhanikirsila3304
@juhanikirsila3304 2 жыл бұрын
Can Dewalt track saw use on Makita track?
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
no, we have an Instagram post covering all the track and saw compatability.
@AlaskaDevin
@AlaskaDevin 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the Kreg? It is a great track saw.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
not available in Aus
@stevepoetzl986
@stevepoetzl986 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, it would be great if you improved your recording with better microphones. A lot of echo making it hard to understand your every word.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Point taken, new audio ordered 👌🏻$ (Mike)
@destino2portugal
@destino2portugal 2 жыл бұрын
No Mafell 🤔 That's the real winner 🏆
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Not in Australia
@destino2portugal
@destino2portugal 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk sorry for your loss brother. I bought a Bosch 18v gdc305 on your recommendation, thanks for that.
@MrTherbst
@MrTherbst 2 жыл бұрын
Rothoblaas in Carrum Downs Victoria sell and support Mafell power tools.
@robertrada4783
@robertrada4783 2 жыл бұрын
To those screaming ‘MAFELL’ at the top your lungs. Yeah, that’s what I swing. Also ran: I’m 40 minutes away from the distributor. Meanwhile, in Oz, Mafell has been a shit show for as long as I can remember. This week you can get them from Rothoblaas. Sweet, maybe soon I’ll order decking material from Makita. 😂. Mafell doesn’t happen in Australia. It’s all over New Zealand all of a sudden, so, who knows, maybe things will change?
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah Well explained 😂 (mike)
@JarosawDrozdz
@JarosawDrozdz Жыл бұрын
you forgot the top saw, mafell
@mcsosig
@mcsosig 2 жыл бұрын
mafell??
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
not in Aus
@alexmoules8630
@alexmoules8630 2 жыл бұрын
strange you get mafell in new zealand but not oz.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
We have since found that a single distrubutor in our state has them. We were not aware. (Mike)
@--JD--
@--JD-- Ай бұрын
Festool cut quality: 3? Mine cuts glass smooth, this just doesn't sound right...
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 15 күн бұрын
I agree, it doesn't sound right. But we could only score off what we could see on the day.
@--JD--
@--JD-- 14 күн бұрын
@@OZToolTalk Knowing that they are known for their no-sand, paint-ready cut, someone did something wrong, or the bade was damaged; is the only explanation I have.
@hayden3488
@hayden3488 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you review makita 40v system?
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt in Oz when we filmed. (Mike)
@hayden3488
@hayden3488 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk well that would definitely make it hard to review. You're doing a great job guys.
@ym695
@ym695 Жыл бұрын
Hi you guys forgot the depth of cut
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk Жыл бұрын
its in the spec table
@josblonk8149
@josblonk8149 2 жыл бұрын
The 3 mm de Makita is out is beceaus it is the dept of the Saw of track whit the track it Will be 3 mm out
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Yep you're right. Which is stupid.
@user-zk4bh1jl2p
@user-zk4bh1jl2p Ай бұрын
Buy a mic to record voice its a nice little devide apparantely every youtuber uses it to record
@lekkae
@lekkae 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure makitas depth gauge doesn’t allow for the track, very annoying
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
i think you're right :/
@user-un3pb6id2e
@user-un3pb6id2e 2 жыл бұрын
This video explain all plunge saw clearly but i need korean subtitle.
@fibranijevidra
@fibranijevidra 2 жыл бұрын
Please invest in microphone.
@charlemarcharlemar2401
@charlemarcharlemar2401 2 жыл бұрын
no Mafell???????????????????? the BEST track saw.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
not in Aus, no
@riptonedwards9175
@riptonedwards9175 Жыл бұрын
You do no that mafell make the Bosch so mafell is well represendented track saws have moved on
@jbjoe249
@jbjoe249 2 жыл бұрын
The king is missing? Mafell.... OK. Never compare Kings with crowd. Fer enough 👍
@robertrada4783
@robertrada4783 2 жыл бұрын
Is the cordless one king though? I’ve no issues with my Mafell, but if I needed cordless, I’d grab the 36v Festool.
@wkunique
@wkunique Жыл бұрын
Metabo can do 66!! mm deep
@mehulpgajjar4901
@mehulpgajjar4901 2 жыл бұрын
Bosch is best
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
what do you love about it?
@mehulpgajjar4901
@mehulpgajjar4901 2 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk i love presence of Bosch. I never compare.
@adrianaosirish6065
@adrianaosirish6065 2 жыл бұрын
I have the dewalt for 3 years now and it doesn't leave cuts( bad ) like your showing ...so its absolute bullshit what your saying ....tighten up the saw on the track .
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ok. Im glad your happy but it was tight on the track, no smoke and mirrors here mate we just go on what we find. (Mike)
@keithmulhall4900
@keithmulhall4900 2 жыл бұрын
Have the dewalt and once you change the blade it leaves a great cut.Have used a mates Festool and found it under powered.Nice features but not worth the extra cost.
@charlemarcharlemar2401
@charlemarcharlemar2401 2 жыл бұрын
Screw all this aluminum soft crap......the shoe and rails should all be carbon fiber, PERIOD!
@glen2560
@glen2560 Жыл бұрын
Festool is overpriced and their blades are not universal. Big 👎
@jesusblessthesecommentsamen
@jesusblessthesecommentsamen Жыл бұрын
I would never buy a blade that is named satan.
@OZToolTalk
@OZToolTalk Жыл бұрын
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