Corruption! More than 30 different versions of the Qur’an?!? - Qira'at Conundrum - Episode 10

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@Repent4JesusChrist
@Repent4JesusChrist 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Al Fadi and Dr.Jay Smith,praise be to God the Father,Son and Holy Spirit 🙏
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
@@111mahaadam Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@cogit0ergo705
@cogit0ergo705 3 жыл бұрын
@@111mahaadam - Muslims need to teach the Jews they worship Uzair. Then tell them to stop. :-D LOL!!!
@cogit0ergo705
@cogit0ergo705 3 жыл бұрын
@Nataly Hartman - Please don't speak of your dad that way... Thank you. :-D
@cogit0ergo705
@cogit0ergo705 3 жыл бұрын
@Nataly Hartman - Who's ur daddy?! :-D
@cogit0ergo705
@cogit0ergo705 3 жыл бұрын
@Nataly Hartman - Nice to have loyal children. :-D
@colinpatterson728
@colinpatterson728 3 жыл бұрын
I want to hear from the best and brightest etc of Islam on this the key and undistorted claims made in this video. Thanks.
@ShepherdsHook
@ShepherdsHook 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Shady Nassur is top level.
@saidmohammed7597
@saidmohammed7597 3 жыл бұрын
The qiraat does not change the meaning of the message of the Quran that believes in Allah who have no son and pray to glorify Allah so to stay in touched with God and pay part of your income to ward the unfortunately and that is the Islam teachings.
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
They know they are just be hypocritical of it. That’s their way.
@HH-ss9vj
@HH-ss9vj 3 жыл бұрын
Same old chewing gum, again and again. Please bring up something new this is getting boring
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
More than 20 years oh Jay Smith has brought nothing to the table. What a waste of resource, time and effort.
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman your comparison shows your intellect.. my condolances to ur common sense. Just like Jay Smith, Hatun and lizzie... nothing more than a blabburing buffon hahahaha
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman you fail,fail,fail and fail again.. every single time. This is not even remotely satisfying in anyway.. its actually pitiful reading your replies...
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman blah blah blah... pointless responding. Muslims have debunked every query brought foward countless times.. thats exactly what i mean. You cant even comprehend that all of the points brought against islam have long been debunked... 🤦‍♂️
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman yes you wont believe as your brain has proven to not comprehend simple truths.
@lahleholivia7398
@lahleholivia7398 3 жыл бұрын
If it was perfectly presevered, it would be 1 book, written by 1 person, with 0 changes.
@fvillag1
@fvillag1 2 жыл бұрын
But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. So OOOOPS
@LordFueFue
@LordFueFue 2 ай бұрын
​@MMMHobbiesall those 700 different Qurans are in Arabic. . . That language was total garbage when Islam was created. . . They added dots that could make a single word polar opposite. . . Write men builds women destroyed in Arabic and you will see what I mean. . . men and women opposite, build and destroy total opposites. . . Just dots added. . .
@BasedYeeter42
@BasedYeeter42 3 жыл бұрын
This is crazy, will consider looking into Dr Nasser’s work
@costarring5115
@costarring5115 3 жыл бұрын
The perfect preservation thirty times over, can you believe it.
@jambeats2306
@jambeats2306 3 ай бұрын
​​@MMMHobbies Get a hobby. You all go claiming one book to deceive People and draw them in, but there are different books with different numbers of verses and different statements that means different things (no synonyms in meaning) completely and utterly different meanings. Not counting religious potholes that makes your religion looks more like a cult than a faith. Christians are not campaigning one preserved book. We are not killing apostates but praying for them. And we are not using heavy taxation and human rights degradation plus death threats as a system to win converts and keep them.
@LordFueFue
@LordFueFue 2 ай бұрын
​@MMMHobbiesChristians don't claim that every word in the Bible is the word of God. . . Jesus is the word. . . Christians don't claim that the Bible is Perfect. . . Jesus is. . . Christians don't claim that the Bible was sent down. . . Jesus was. . . The Qurans says this about Jesus too, that Jesus was sent down into marry, that Jesus is the word and the creator just as Allah was, and that no one was pore on earth but Jesus and Mary. . . The differences between the word of God and the word of Allah is evil intentions and bad interpretation. . . Muslims worship a book and bow down to stones. . . Christians worship Jesus and bow down to God.
@jsilvanus240
@jsilvanus240 3 жыл бұрын
Without LIES Islam DIES. In islam you are either FOOLED or a FOOL.
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Islam is built on foundations of lies, falsehoods and deceits and these are supported by violence..
@111mahaadam
@111mahaadam 3 жыл бұрын
Not true.. before death research on reading QURAN.
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
@@111mahaadam Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@therockofsalvation35
@therockofsalvation35 3 жыл бұрын
@@roshlew6994 The latest finds on the Dead Sea prove once again, as so often, that the Old and New Testaments are not falsified. As it is always claimed. So good to see that YHVH is simply the only one.
@abcde-eg1ee
@abcde-eg1ee 3 жыл бұрын
Please pray for the victims who were celebrating Palm Sunday mass where an Islamist extremist suicide bomber blew himself up outside the Roman Catholic cathedral in Indonesia.
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
The problem of the Qurans started right from its inception
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@landynerick2477
@landynerick2477 3 жыл бұрын
A trick: you can watch series at flixzone. Been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.
@MariaRaju
@MariaRaju 3 жыл бұрын
truth is alive and well... whoever comes to the truth by no means would be turned away
@jeffreydsouza7273
@jeffreydsouza7273 3 жыл бұрын
not one muslim could answer my question ....what happened to the quran goat and the pages
@yossefashraf4420
@yossefashraf4420 3 жыл бұрын
well fr? ok the goat ate some pages owned by aisha RA then? does that mean all copies were eaten did aisha RA have the only copy of the quran? idk why muslims can’t answer ur questions it seems ez enough
@ploo5708
@ploo5708 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't eaten by a goat or burnt. I have never heard that from any scholar and I have watched my fair share of religious debates against Islam. Please state a source. The Qur'an wasn't even written until the prophets death. I believe it was written in Abu Bakr Calipha. However the case it was written in scripture after a war that killed many people that had learnt the Qur'an by heart. To preserve it for the future generations they wrote it down. Nothing of the original scripture was changed. Prehaps the interpretations, the context and the translations are different but the original one has always been the same. Your claim a goat ate it cause Aisha (peace be upon her) kept the scripture under her bed is false because 1) many people had learnt the Qur'an by heart during that time and even nowadays 2) the whole Qur'an was written after the prophets death 3) even if a goat ate it then other people who learnt it by heart would remember it 4) the prophet taught people before his death the whole Qur'an Two Muslims so far in this single comment section have answered your question. And I can guarantee u there is far wiser Muslims that can give better answers :)
@UlugbekAzimov-n4b
@UlugbekAzimov-n4b 5 ай бұрын
Listened and shared: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for continuing educating Muslims so they see the hypocrisy of Islam and come to Jesus Christ. Peace be upon Grinch!
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
Sergeant Continue deceiving yourself they are faking you, taking dialect difference of each writer as the whole Quran they are just lieing and deceiving people .
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Holey moley quran...
@111mahaadam
@111mahaadam 3 жыл бұрын
Perha hota to pata hota...kya hey QURAN....ALKITAAB....QURAN KAREEM. ...GODS KNOWLEDGE GIVEN TO MANKIND
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
@@111mahaadam Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@laleasintani6055
@laleasintani6055 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you sir... Can I share again or repost your video and still put your link sir? Thanks a lot, Lord Jesus bless us
@glencampbell6217
@glencampbell6217 3 жыл бұрын
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!.............
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder 700 different variations into one? or was that one of 700? I'm confused...... Does God have 700 + different complete tablets in heaven? That is a lot of weight even if they are 1/4'' thick, it is a wall.
@horseradishpower9947
@horseradishpower9947 3 жыл бұрын
It is easy... God built an extension to heaven, to house all of the tablets. Took him a couple of centuries to get the building permission... pesky regulations and paperwork gets everywhere.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
@@horseradishpower9947 The Red Tape is always the point for delays. The worst is the electrical showing up after the dry wall.
@Rosamrisen
@Rosamrisen Жыл бұрын
And the words are in the quran have never been changed. There are just 7 pronounciations. And there is a hadith where the propher said: "The Quran came to me in all (7) dialects." So please stop these lies, it's embarrising. If you are honest, and really want to disprove islam, do your unbiased research and come to the conclusion.
@Rosamrisen
@Rosamrisen Жыл бұрын
Christianity: God became a baby, someone had to change his diapers. God sent His son who is also himself for a crime the son has not comitted but bear in mind He is All-loving except to His son who again, did not commit the crime. Jesus the Son is God, but he died on the cross, but not the god part but the human part, but he is fully god and fully man and he does not fully know the Hour but he is still all-knowing. Come on guys, gain some knowledge about your own religion and see how flawed it is. Be honest with yourselves, no one is going to be next to you in the grave, please stop lying against yourselves. Jay smith is only doing this because his ego has been destroyed by muslims in the 80's. This guy believes the only thing you will do in heaven is "take a walk" with God.
@lovejoy_peace
@lovejoy_peace 2 жыл бұрын
meaning, it was not perfectly preserved... and they just love burning books and things..
@luisitofamero5214
@luisitofamero5214 3 жыл бұрын
Praise Lord Jesus Christ
@111mahaadam
@111mahaadam 3 жыл бұрын
So sad....ESSA PROPHET will say at the day of judgement ...that O ALLAH I DIDN'T TELL THESE PEOPLE TO SAY THE THINGS ABOUT ME AFTER ME WHICH THEY SAID.
@BOIOLA08
@BOIOLA08 3 жыл бұрын
This problem of Islam, wich by the way is a problem that all montheistic religions have to live with in lesser or greater degree is what happens when you stop believing in a zillion Gods and start believing in one. It's difficult to get everyone to believe in the same thing when there is no actual concensus on what that thing actually isto begin with. :p
@aqualandec7823
@aqualandec7823 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the enlightenments from your wisdom. Based from your other videos, Quran was written far behind after the death of the founder, about 200 years (pls correct me). You said also that writers were not associated or living with the founder nor testimony of good deeds and miracle. Also, you elaborated the distance of the writers from Mecca where Islam was established. Meaning, there are no legitimate references?, all the writings maybe hearsay or made-up of imaginations?.
@fvillag1
@fvillag1 2 жыл бұрын
You got it.
@irwan3064
@irwan3064 3 жыл бұрын
Because there are than 30 _branches_ of Islam.
@ReenaZ6569
@ReenaZ6569 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Allah has 30 different versions of Quran.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 3 жыл бұрын
at least 37
@lovejoy_peace
@lovejoy_peace 2 жыл бұрын
more than 30 in fact..
@cavitalptekin2619
@cavitalptekin2619 4 ай бұрын
Ca I buy all of them? Has someone a link please
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ Жыл бұрын
Which version of the Quran too use?
@H18717
@H18717 3 жыл бұрын
According to the Bible, #Jesus was born, ate, slept, prayed and had limited knowledge - all attributes not befitting God. #God has attributes of perfection whereas Man is the opposite. Yet you disobey and worship a creation (Jesus) alongside the Creator (God) Would you not reason?
@marjupsd3728
@marjupsd3728 3 жыл бұрын
THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
@TheProofLady
@TheProofLady 3 жыл бұрын
wow this is simply the dumbest argument ive ever heard from one of you. the apologia is strong with this one.
@jeanrosw
@jeanrosw 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you are christian, it should be more clever to sort out all the nonsenses in the gospel than to criticise the mulsim religion. Why do you want to take a revenge against the muslims ?
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
He can never succeed because almigthy Allah promised HIS protection of the Quran and so it shall be till last day of judgment.
@RafikKhan-ol4zk
@RafikKhan-ol4zk 5 ай бұрын
One one original Quran
@paladin5163
@paladin5163 3 жыл бұрын
Oh what a wicked web we weave when we try to invent a religion. And the weave that is not woven tightly from the start is slowly but surely unraveling.
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@hiview44
@hiview44 3 жыл бұрын
هنا صور للكعبة الحقيقية و موقعها من الأقمار الصناعية. Here are pictures and location of the real Kaaba from space libral.org/vb/showpost.php?p=6890372&postcount=387
@stuvertjohn8933
@stuvertjohn8933 3 жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ
@Pax-Africana
@Pax-Africana 3 жыл бұрын
The Reminder(114 Surats) informs us that there is a Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition but rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, the Apostles didn't believe in Trinity, and prescribed a dietary Law in Acts 15:22-34 which the said Tradition rejects. It is not ironic! On the basis of those clues we can say for sure that: Qur'an is a codeword for Torah. The Reminder is the 114 Surats Islam means an Evangelical Party supposed to enforce the Torah as the Law of the land. Muhammad euphemism for Messiah Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler, Legislator...and took up Muhammad as a reign name. Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition. It's time to differentiate the Palace and the Mosque...under the Messianic title Mohammad.
@hiview44
@hiview44 3 жыл бұрын
عزيزي الفادي .. ... آمل من باحث عن الحقيقية مثلك أن يقضي دقائق من وقتك ... للإطلاع على موضوعي عن مكة الحقيقية بصور من الأقمار الصناعية لها و لدوائر الطواف من حولها ... لا أستطيع وضع الرابط هنا لأنه سيحذف و لكن أبحث عن الشبكة الليبرالية الحرة - المنتدى العام ..و ستجد الموضوع بالأدلة المادية التي لا تقبل الجدال و لا التشكيك ... و كل الشكر لك على هذه القناة الرائعة.
@bogusrevealer9890
@bogusrevealer9890 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't we create a new holy book which talks about gender equality, freedom, democracy, equal opportunity to every one ? Why we need to discuss the books in questions ? Why we need intermediary or an agent who will act as messenger of god ? Why we should trust the messenger ? Has not law of physics corrected over time ? Why the religious things have not corrected ? Should we stick to old laws of physics ?
@kenandemirtas1563
@kenandemirtas1563 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Al Fadi, I have a big problem. Some parts I cannot follow due my English level problem and your re Rudd are not sub -titled. Could you also make a pdf texts with sources please ?
@arifbillah1313
@arifbillah1313 3 жыл бұрын
Those coward so call scholar cannot debate with the With the scholar of Muslim the ready to challenge but the hypocrite Call I want to deceive people specially the pagan religion like Christian God is so merciful He sand his son in a suicide mission order to save his creation No dad would do that bad example I would save my son Where is the love .
@arifbillah1313
@arifbillah1313 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman It all started Adam-and-Eve take the Apple from the garden Your so call merciful God Cast out Adam-and-Eve from the garden and Course humanity Where all because Adam-and-Eve take the Apple Are you kidding me. Only way he could forgive Sean that we inherited Buy uman sacrifices Forgot send his son which is innocent Send is willing to die which is the suicide wishing for him or to save his creation. There is no mercy on that I would never do that to my son you evil God you worshiping . He is that a good father.
@arifbillah1313
@arifbillah1313 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman God of Israel don't change is nature he's in perfection he created law where we can distinguish between right and wrong. He is the most merciful it has to be absolutely true. He is the creator of everything no one else can come later and create and say I'm the Creator it has to be true. God cannot sacrifice we sacrifice for God that is absolutely true statement. If a homo sapien come and he said I'm the son of God my mission is to kill myself suicide or to save my dad creation . Innocent has to murder because of the sinner I would never send my son to do my dirty job I would go myself and do it and save then I'll be merciful. There is no mercy on it also God cannot sacrifice he's unlimited we glorify him. The god that you guys are worshiping is not the same God of Israel it's not one God
@arifbillah1313
@arifbillah1313 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman Jesus is so called God I created my mother because I'm God and I came out from my mother vagina True I'm a 1/2 God 1/2 men . There is no woman Is not fair.
@arifbillah1313
@arifbillah1313 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman I show you the evidence
@bogusrevealer9890
@bogusrevealer9890 3 жыл бұрын
Not a single version talks about democracy, equality and equal rights to every one.
@yvonnegonzales2973
@yvonnegonzales2973 3 жыл бұрын
Each different ingredients mixed dough Qur'ans, as jolina song did. They add hashish, other marijuana, & black seeds to make diff arabic dilects in the Qur'an flavours, shakeran
@goliashorton9990
@goliashorton9990 3 жыл бұрын
We live in a world where god is dead,we have all the resources to house an feed an cloth ever human on this planet,we live in profound violence an immorality, why hate people you have so much in common with
@lonedesertwolf9939
@lonedesertwolf9939 3 жыл бұрын
The korans are they totally different in words and meaning and teachings.
@peterrocky4873
@peterrocky4873 3 жыл бұрын
The standard narrative has now a black hole...of no.return
@ukwelinauwazi5523
@ukwelinauwazi5523 3 жыл бұрын
*Hii iko poa sana, mbarikiwe sana🙏*
@bantuwarrior-12
@bantuwarrior-12 3 жыл бұрын
Nimeshtuka
@ukwelinauwazi5523
@ukwelinauwazi5523 3 жыл бұрын
@@bantuwarrior-12 hahahahhah ur welcome🙏
@yvonnegonzales2973
@yvonnegonzales2973 3 жыл бұрын
No copyright infringement rap singers, no karaoke in Mecca, memorization on hashish & qatz leaves before eat it
@CM-nb8rs
@CM-nb8rs 3 жыл бұрын
Gents, great job. Can you insert Arabic Transalation please ?
@pushtobestsongs7873
@pushtobestsongs7873 3 жыл бұрын
Better to study Ur Bible right way...
@H18717
@H18717 3 жыл бұрын
The Worship of others (such as Jesus or any other creation) alongside God is Disbelief in the Oneness of God. Hellfire has been created for those who disbelieved in what Abraham, Noah, Moses, David, Jesus, Mohammed (peace be upon them all) all taught - Worship of only ONE God "Those who say, “God is the Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah (Jesus) himself said, “O Children of Israel! Worship God-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with God in worship will surely be forbidden Paradise by God. Their home will be the (HELL) Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers" - Quran 5:72 There Is No God but ONE SINGULAR God - The Creator of the Universe. God is the only constant from Adam to the current humans existing. Jesus only came into existence after Mary gave birth to him. All righteous humans that passed away before Jesus was born followed other Prophets and believed in One God. If Jesus was God, they would all have been aware of Jesus' existence. Rather it was only One God all of mankind knew and should still accept till today. The BIBLE HAS VERSES THAT CANNOT BE RECONCILED. Jesus expressed he was NOT God in multiple verses. You cannot ignore those verses and then only talk about the verses that SEEM TO SUGGEST he was God. The Quran, like the authentic Torah that was revealed to Moses, and all other divinely revealed books all say there is only ONE God, not three. God has sent messengers to every generation of mankind. Jesus, Moses, Noah, Muhammad, Abraham, David etc. and they all preached the same message = Worship only ONE God, do good and avoid evil. The first of the Ten Commandments that are fundamental to both Jews and Christians is “I am the LORD your God, You shall have no other gods before Me” In multiple verses in the Bible, Jesus denied he was God such as: Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19) THIS IS A MESSAGE TO ALL TO DESIST FROM ASSOCIATING ANYONE IN WORSHIP WITH ONE GOD. DO NOT GO ASTRAY BY ASSOCIATING ANYONE IN LORDSHIP WITH GOD SUCH AS JESUS (JESUS WAS A WORSHIPPER OF GOD).
@H18717
@H18717 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman Worship your Creator alone, the Creator of Adam, Jesus, the Angels and the entire Universe.
@H18717
@H18717 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman Hell Fire is sufficient as an eternal home for those who intentionally disbelieve in the Oneness of God.
@geniusyola1982
@geniusyola1982 3 жыл бұрын
Pastor, please allow us to share this video.
@munawaralias8980
@munawaralias8980 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! 30 versions???!! Just like Bible! Many versions. Bible of King James, King David, Burger King, Komedy King. So many Kings. Where iz it? Surely you can name them. As a Muslim, I really want to know. Pls pls pls.....
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
They are lieing nothing like that about the Quran. What they are referring to are just the DIALECT of translations which every author wrote in their local dialect. It all start with Surah Al Fatiah and ended with Surah Al Nas. They are just lieing.
@munawaralias8980
@munawaralias8980 3 жыл бұрын
@@buhariayobami874 Exactly.
@peterrocky4873
@peterrocky4873 3 жыл бұрын
Preserved perversions?
@heythere6655
@heythere6655 3 жыл бұрын
Is Dr. Shady Muslim?
@briancordero7674
@briancordero7674 3 жыл бұрын
If lying and deception was a rock these two guys would be Mt Everest!
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder they taking “ Dialects of each writer who translated into their own language as being a version lol they are both deceivers .
@uristis
@uristis 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I still wonder what kind of differences in the Qira'at you are talking about. How many of the 93,000 differences in Qira'at significantly change the meaning? I looked at some of the examples of comparisons between Hafs and Warsh from www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf (see below). As you can see, these don't seem to change the meaning significantly and don't seem very consequential. 2:125 in Hafs is WatakhIzu” (You shall take) / In Warsh it is WatakhAzu” (They have taken/made). 3:146 in Hafs is “Qatal” (Fought) / In Warsh it is Qutil” (Were Killed). ( In 3:146 the difference is between a prophet and those with him being killed, while in the other the difference only means that they fought by his side. ) 2:140 in Hafs is “Taquluna” (You Say) / In Warsh it is “Yaquluna” (They Say). 6:96 in Hafs is “Wa Jaal” (Made) / In Warsh it is uρ “Wa JaAl” (Makes). 7:144 in Hafs is “BirisalAti” (My Messages) / In Warsh it is “Birisalati” (My Message). 9:37 in Hafs is “YuDhalu” (Misguided by) / In Warsh it is ” YaDhilu” (Misguide With). 10:2 in Hafs is “LasAhir” (Magician) / In Warsh it is "Lasihr” (Magic). 10:33 (also 10:96) in Hafs is “Kalimat” (Word) / In Warsh it is "KalimAt” (Words).
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
Thats is exactly the point. There are no contradictions. The qiraat is simply accents. American english and british english may differ in wording but alas they are both still english and distinguished as such. Thank you for your truthfull research. God Bless.
@uristis
@uristis 3 жыл бұрын
​@Jor Tra Make and makes, you say and they say, misguided by and misguided with ... are huge differences? Are you serious? Very few variants change the specifics even significantly, and even if it does, the overall meaning you are supposed to take away from them is still intact in most examples I have seen.
@uristis
@uristis 3 жыл бұрын
​@Jor Tra How how is that a huge difference? You can find references of Allah using both "he" and "we" even in the same Quran. That doesn't change the overall meaning of this verse, which is just that you will be rewarded for giving charity. The "over 5000 differences" is meaningless if the differences don't have any significant impact on the message. www.islam101.com/tauheed/AllahWE.htm "Whenever in the Qur’an Allah is mentioned in the third person there are always singular pronouns used, such as He, him (Huwa or Hu). Whenever Allah is spoken to in the second person there are also singular pronouns, such as Thou, Thine and Thee (Anta, Ka). However only in the first person some times the pronouns I, My or Mine (Ana, Iyaya, ya) are used and sometimes We, Us and Our (Nahnu, Na) are used."
@uristis
@uristis 3 жыл бұрын
​@Jor Tra Humans cannot remove sins. That doesn't even make sense. According to the tafsir/scholarly commentaries ( quranx.com/Tafsirs/2.271 ), "We" is referring to Allah. Tafsir Al-Jalalayn even notes that "nukaffir" (We will absolve) is referring to Allah. The Wikipedia article on Qiraat also talks about this ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiraat#Examples_of_differences_between_readings ) : "The "He" in Hafs is referring to God and the "We" in Al-Duri is also referring to God, this is due to the fact that God refers to Himself in both the singular form and plural form by using the royal "We"...While the change of voice or pronouns in these verse may seem confusing, it is very common in the Quran[41][42] and found even in the same verse.[43] (It is known as iltifāt.)" According to this article on iltifāt ( www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/text/grammar/iltifaat ), there are over 140 examples in the Quran (the same version of the Quran) of transition from 3rd to 1st person, and nearly 100 instances of transition of 1st to 3rd person. For example, in chapter 15 of the Quran ( the same Quran, not different versions quran.com/15 ), you find Allah referred to He in 15:25, 15:86, and referred to as We in 15:9, 5:60, 15:92 and many other places. If these variations in pronouns exist within the same version of the Quran, the standard version, then why would it matter if these variations occurred between different versions? What do you think you are proving here besides something that is already known?
@uristis
@uristis 3 жыл бұрын
​@Jor Tra My original point was that many of these differences don't significantly change the meaning. The core meaning of 3:146 is that those who fought with Muhammad did not back down. Whether or not you mention that some were killed while fighting doesn't affect the core message. Meanwhile, 43:19 describes the non-believers claiming that angels are female. Whether the angels are described as "servants" just adds extra unnecessary detail that doesn't affect the meaning.... Tafsir even mentions the variant readings. This is not a secret. quranx.com/Tafsirs/3.146 "Al-Jalalayn: How many a prophet has been killed (qutila, a variant reading has qātala, ‘has fought’, the subject of the verb being the person governing it)..." In 38:45 "Our (Allah's) slaves/servants" is referring to Ibrahim, Ishaque, and Ya'qub, similar to the previous verse 38:41 "And remember Our servant Job..." You can find other examples of words in the Quran that are written singular when one would expect plural, such as the word "messenger(s)" in 26:16. That doesn't change the meaning. I am not sure about 46:15 or what " beauty to his parents" is supposed to mean (bad translation?), but the point is that the variants are not meaningful if there is no evidence that reading different Qurans would result in a different understanding the scripture. If the core message of the verses are still the same, then the variants do not carry any real world consequence and it seems like analyzing or counting differences the qiraat are a waste of time.
@Zebhammer
@Zebhammer 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Anyone know what has happened to David Wood?
@Zebhammer
@Zebhammer 3 жыл бұрын
@Bj D Thanks. Just so strange going from almost if not daily, to nothing. Guy in his position makes you nervous. Anthony Rogers recent live cast mentioned it so reassuring. But thanks for letting me know, was genuinely concerned. Will delete the original posting.
@zach6614
@zach6614 3 жыл бұрын
Al looking fresh
@elijahmarieveramontecarlo1953
@elijahmarieveramontecarlo1953 3 жыл бұрын
Scholarly and scientifically revisiting and assessing Islamic belief, philosophy, or religion to correct, purify, or put back in track or what have you. I am not Muslim, not a Christian, not of any religious beliefs but studying all of the existing religions in the world. With this video I hope all Muslims will be united.
@111mahaadam
@111mahaadam 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my GOD....THEY are telling you guys lie.
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@colinpatterson728
@colinpatterson728 3 жыл бұрын
Pls. What do you mean ? - Specifically what do you mean by "THEY" and WHO is you 'God' ?
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone Refute this video with hard written facts? 700 to 1 or 1 out of 700 seems to be the result just from the Muslim sources. Use Muslim sources please that address this video. Let's see how you do.
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
@@roshlew6994 Although you are a lier but if so still what they invented is good and better than your own fath whose god was killed by his creations .
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
@@buhariayobami874 Islam is built on foundations of lies, deceits and falsehoods.. Arab empire invented Islam as a tool of imperialism. Islam is primarily an Arab impearlistic sociopolitical ideology masquerading as a religion.
@RO-dx2pr
@RO-dx2pr 3 жыл бұрын
Please I need your help!... I just wanna say Goodbye Qur’an but I couldn’t find it from 700 Qira’t which one is the Correct Qur’an
@munawaralias8980
@munawaralias8980 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to help but couldn't find them either! And I am a Muslim since birth! Btw, Qira'at is way of reciting (read out loud) the Qur'an. One of the meaning of Qur'an is The Recital. First word of Qur'an is "Recite". Annually, there is International Recital of Qur'an held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (before COVID). Its called Tilawah. You can Google it. There are many Qira'at there since Islam come to so many tongue with different pronounciation of every word. Like English. Different way of speaking. Different slang. More so with Qur'an. If you think about finding many' versions' of Qur'a'n like many Qira'at, you will definitely be very disappointed.
@munawaralias8980
@munawaralias8980 3 жыл бұрын
One might be thinking this duo "expose" on Islam will upset us Muslims. We are cool about it. Everything in it we know is just bull. Exposing some facts, hiding another. Presenting part of an 'evidence'. Misrepresented them. All are the craft of Christian apologists for many centuries. The true target of this effort are not us Muslims but you Christians. They meant to dissuade you from true Islam. If you really looking for the truth they are many KZbin Muslim preacher you can find yourself. Eg., Zakir Naik, Yusof Estes, Mufti Menk, among others. If Jay and Fadl truly seek the truth, he might as well bring his argument to Dr Zakir Naik who has his own channel. Word of warning, Dr Zakir has memorized the entire content of Bible and Qur'an. Misrepresentation of Bible or Qur'an won't do you any good.
@gogoneeve6387
@gogoneeve6387 3 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh. All bs for sure
@naluyangeaishah8643
@naluyangeaishah8643 3 жыл бұрын
@@munawaralias8980 they teach science 😂😂 nothing spiritual in Qur'an, levictus 26 about those black stones inside kaaba, isiah 1:9-19 for that moon god hubaal you worship, half moon and star
@munawaralias8980
@munawaralias8980 3 жыл бұрын
@@naluyangeaishah8643 I'm done debating with stupid.
@yossefashraf4420
@yossefashraf4420 3 жыл бұрын
there are 70 bibles
@TheProofLady
@TheProofLady 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and we admit there are variations of the text, unlike the Quran which lies and deceives with false claims of perfection. It doesn't even have perfect Arabic LMAO
@yossefashraf4420
@yossefashraf4420 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProofLady so u r an arab?
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProofLady The bible lied most not variations. Variations only applies to the Quran’s not the bible. Some bible have more chapter than others and in many quotes they are different from each other. So stop lieing pls it’s not good for kids reading us.
@TheProofLady
@TheProofLady 3 жыл бұрын
@@buhariayobami874 Since my comment, I've looked more into Islam. I took my shahada two weeks ago. I was so hateful when I was ignorant. Inshallah that others come to the truth.
@lovejoy_peace
@lovejoy_peace 2 жыл бұрын
thats translated versions in different languages.. unlike the Quran 37 different versions in its Original Arabic .. know the difference..
@IlovemyGOD3
@IlovemyGOD3 3 жыл бұрын
انا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ Verily, We, it is We Who revealed the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'an) and surely We will guard it (from corruption). Allah, may He be exalted, stated that He is the One Who revealed the Dhikr to him, which is the Qur'an, and He is protecting it from being changed or altered.
3 жыл бұрын
@Bj D just tell me which one is true is it the protestant bible that has 66 books or the roman catholic bible that has 73 books or the orthodox bible that has 83 book or is it the charismatic bible that has 76 books
3 жыл бұрын
@Bj D yes they add different meaning different stories
@theworld303
@theworld303 3 жыл бұрын
In the letters of Paul he mentions the gospel. What is this gospel? Where is it?
@c.aurellaustina6849
@c.aurellaustina6849 3 жыл бұрын
Gospel as mentioned by Apostle Paul is in the sense of Good News which factually is its meaning. His form of good news are categorized [as] Epistles--the letters he himself as a veritable pioneer wrote to Brothers and to the congregations creditable to his great evangelizing zeal. Endorsed by Apostle Peter. Peter also wrote his. There's this: "...Whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven and whatever you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven..." ~Yeshua Christus Himself. "You are a rock and on this rock foundation I will build my church...not even death will ever be able to overcome it..." The Church has defined the Gospel and it is consist of 4, capturing the words and messages of Christ Jesus Himself--the Word of God. "All Scripture is inspired by God..," we read in one of the Epistles. They are all good news. Get lost! Your Muhammadan falsehood-infested cranial content is incapable of comprehending it. Edit: All Scripture is inspired by God...
@theworld303
@theworld303 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.aurellaustina6849 You are admitting that there are different gospels.
@theworld303
@theworld303 3 жыл бұрын
@Majo Flinterman Can you answer the question instead of diverting. The 4 gospels describe 'Jesus' life on earth. Paul doesn't know anything about that. What is the gospel exactly in Christianity?
@c.aurellaustina6849
@c.aurellaustina6849 3 жыл бұрын
@@theworld303 Get lost, again, with your blind argument and deliberate falsehood. You apparently aren't qualified.
@theworld303
@theworld303 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.aurellaustina6849 You have no clue about the bible. According to the book of acts Paul was persecuting Christians. In the letters of Paul he writes that he didn't know about a resurrection of Jesus before his 'vision'. Why was he persecuting Christians if he didn't know what they supposedly believed?
@mohamedjalloh8750
@mohamedjalloh8750 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful knowledge done by Al Fadi and Jay Smith, May the God of our four father's continue to keep you guys safe, I wish I can shout with louder 📢🔊 voice, for you to hear 🙉 me. God bless you mentor 🙏💕🙏🙏💕🙏🙏💕🙏
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
Your names reads “ Mohamed Jalloh” and anybody that reads your comments will think you are a Muslim, you are part of the problems of this world because anyone who reads your comment will say look at a muslim too is testifying whereas you are not a muslim.
@mohamedjalloh8750
@mohamedjalloh8750 3 жыл бұрын
@@buhariayobami874 Thanks very much Buhari Ayobami, how can you (Judge) some one by words? How can you use such a rough words,by saying am part of the problem of this world. mind You this is media okay 😊
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohamedjalloh8750 Yeah you are people like you who bares a name associated with one faith and then playhate against that particular faith. Any body who see your name as “ Muhamed “ won’t think you are a muslim? Then they will direct their comment at muslims saying even a Muslim guy by the name of “ Muhamed “ to testify to it .
@aanair72
@aanair72 3 жыл бұрын
@@buhariayobami874 brother FYKI ur name is given to u by u r parents not by religion... U may change u r faith but not u r parents...
@buhariayobami874
@buhariayobami874 3 жыл бұрын
@@aanair72 I am a Muslim and my parents passed it to me alhamdulilah and a muslim I will remain and die inshaAllah. That’s me and not you ok. I love my name and love my life being a Muslim too.
@kobuskotze3206
@kobuskotze3206 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious. Are the differences pronounced enough to show the text to be a forgery? Or is it the same kind of differences we find between ex KJV and NIV? I am convinced that the religion of Islam is not from the one true God, but curious nonetheless.
@neildunford241
@neildunford241 3 жыл бұрын
The research & compiling of this information, is excellent. Kudos to all involved. Aside from this demonstrating a, "life skills 101" - don't lie to people. There's a fantastic irony in all this...Muhammad would be absolutely livid, if he knew all this had happened...being the control freak that he obviously was.
@neildunford241
@neildunford241 3 жыл бұрын
@SOG Apostle I like the idea of a, "ghost prophet" coming back! Who you gonna call?
@neildunford241
@neildunford241 3 жыл бұрын
@SOG Apostle LOL, I ain't 'fraid a no mo'!
@truthexposednow
@truthexposednow 3 жыл бұрын
Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? In all major scriptures only Bible is not provided in original text ? All major religious groups like Hindus, Buddhists Muslims etc provide original text of their religious scriptures (Hindus provide Vedas in Sanskrit, Budhists provide Dhammapad in Pali, Muslims provide Quran in Arabic) But only Christian religious leaders don’t provide Bible in original text ?
@sirsydneyroughdiamond1643
@sirsydneyroughdiamond1643 3 жыл бұрын
That's the point. The oldest Quranic writings are in Nabatean Aramaic without dots or vowels that were not introduced until 8th century.
@heythere6655
@heythere6655 3 жыл бұрын
You have the original Muslim text? Oh my goodness! You better tell your Muslim scholars! 😅😅😂😂😂😂. That would be great news for them!!
@theworld303
@theworld303 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirsydneyroughdiamond1643 This comment proves why you are a Christian. What has script got to do with language?
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@therockofsalvation35
@therockofsalvation35 3 жыл бұрын
The Bible is found by science, traditions. The best proven book in human history. What is written today is consistent with the original text. Recently, fragments from the Book of Zechariah have been found again at the Dead Sea. The Bible repeatedly proves itself with such finds. If you want to be blind and don't want to see it, you have to stay blind.
@abdullakc
@abdullakc Жыл бұрын
Please understand that those differences has no problems. it all means the same. its just different countries and how their Arabic language is which recite differently. There are 7 Arab tongues way of reciting. Quran came out in memory and not on plares or how u call it. Pls never quit islam without knowing. Just ask imams and they will help you.
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
Qiraat is simply form of recitation... wether its british english or american english. Its english.. lol thank you jay for making me a stronger muslim everytime you open your mouth lmao....
@ronmumford5806
@ronmumford5806 3 жыл бұрын
Its not your fault if you are born a Muslim, its your fault if you remain, when your religion just keeps falling away.
@zedmak4887
@zedmak4887 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronmumford5806 your opinion is not truth. You fool no one but yourself
@heythere6655
@heythere6655 3 жыл бұрын
Oh so different accents? Not completely different words? Try that with non-Arabic speakers, because it doesn’t work with those that speak Arabic. 😂😂
@el_killorcure
@el_killorcure 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please then define for us, to better understand, whay does ahruf mean (different accents/dialect/words) and where in the Quran is it stated the alleged explanation of different ahruf and qiraat for it? I mean, if the Quran was indeed revealed to Muhammad in 7 different scripts and 10 different dialects, that would not only make Muhammad a genius (to be able to keep them all straight by memory alone) but such important fact would definitely be stated in the Quran itself, right? Because if it's not there, how can you know, or prove to us, that the 7 ahruf and 10 qiraat argument is not simply a made up excuse, hundreds of years after the fact, to account for script and spoken variants?
@theworld303
@theworld303 3 жыл бұрын
@@el_killorcure You should first define what the Quran is before you make claims about the Quran.
@abbasbeig3943
@abbasbeig3943 3 жыл бұрын
John 5:30 ( Jesus said) " I do nothing by my own will but by the will of who sent me " Who sent Jesus? Alfadi or Satan? No God Almighty sent Jesus, and Jesus submitted his own will to the will of God Almighty. This is simply Islam. Jesus announced he is Muslim. Love Jesus follow Jesus, and do as Jesus did, submit your own will to the will of God Almighty and be Muslim, like Jesus.
@Zgmflegend
@Zgmflegend 3 жыл бұрын
You don't want to ''get it'', do you. muhammad was a false prophet.
@TheProofLady
@TheProofLady 3 жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about lmao this is the dumbest take yet!
@marjupsd3728
@marjupsd3728 3 жыл бұрын
JESUS IS NOT GOD OF CHRISTIANS. JESUS DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIAN. THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS. THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. JESUS ONLY HAS A VERY CLEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. MATTHEW 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. JESUS WAS BORN TO BE A LEADER WHO WILL SHEPHERD THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NOT SHEPHERD CHRISTIANS. MATTHEW 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people ISRAEL. JESUS ONLY SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, JESUS NEVER SPOKE TO CHRISTIANS. MARK 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments, Hear, O ISRAEL, The Lord our God is one Lord. JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. JESUS IS NOT THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS. THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT STATES THAT JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS ACTS 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto ISRAEL A SAVIOUR, JESUS. ALL OF JESUS' ACTIVITIES RECORDED IN THE BIBLE WERE WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NEVER WITH CHRISTIANS. JAY SMITH AND FADI, TRY TO SHOW A VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS A CHRISTIAN GOD OR A VERSE THAT DESCRIBES THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS.
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 3 жыл бұрын
Marju, Christianity has been attacked & analyzed for hundreds of years by atheists. It stands well on it's own. You need to worry about Islam as it is completely falling apart. Nothing that has been written seems to be true. Defend your religion instead of trying to attacks others.
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
Arabs created quran from plagiarized and corrupted scriptures of Jews and Christians of seventh century Arabia. Arab empire invented Islam
@colinpatterson728
@colinpatterson728 3 жыл бұрын
Ha!---------Since you wish to give Bible Studies - I would like to ask some questions is that OK with you ? - I assume so. There is an ayat in the Christian Scripture which says -----"...RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth..." ( 2 Tim 2v15) - given this Q1 : What do you think ? ----Which of the options below do you think are necessarily entailed in the injunction to RIGHTLY divide - which of course, amongst other things, a Bible teacher must do ? (a) RIGHTLY Dividing (b) WRONGLY Dividing (c) NOT Dividing at ALL.
@therockofsalvation35
@therockofsalvation35 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ = Yeshua Hamashiach. GOD saves so he saves everyone. Christi means anointing.
@therockofsalvation35
@therockofsalvation35 3 жыл бұрын
@marjue You don't understand the Bible. Interpret something together according to your own human thinking. Legs What out of what has no connection. Without head and mind. So no one can take you seriously.
@111mahaadam
@111mahaadam 3 жыл бұрын
They both are big big big liers
@BERESHIDA2008
@BERESHIDA2008 3 жыл бұрын
Prove it . We need facts . By that defenition we can say the same thing about you. lier
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