Cosmonaut's Fundamentally Flawed Video About Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

[@izilladkilla]

Fugo: *stabs Narancia with a fork over a math question* Cosmonaut: "cAlM cOoL gUy" Polnareff: *literally would rather die than run away from DIO* Cosmonaut: "fUnNy CoWaRd"

[@fr0ck360]

Also Polnareff: *Still charges at Dio from behind despite still not knowing Dio’s stand ability* That “Funny coward” title belongs to Zenitsu (awaken)

[@joshbruh6584]

@@fr0ck360 Yeah I can’t wait til demon slayer gets more seasons his character gets so much better than what the fanbase has summed him up as .

[@SkeebzGamez]

What does what you said even mean

[@sharplily]

@@SkeebzGamez during the video cosmo says that fugo is calm and collected which umm NO just no and then says that polnareff is a "funny coward" when he constantly shows his bravery and wit in the anime (you could call him a funny hothead because he IS kinda bad at measuring the risks of the battle he's taking but also he almost never backs away from a fight except for when kakyoin literally forced him to during the hol horse battle)

[@askerleaves1614]

@@SkeebzGamez You can't say Jack! You're just as, if not, even more confusing than the original poster.

[@williambutcher7429]

“Polnareff is a coward” Meanwhile polnareff: “Im coming with you guys to get revenge on the man who brutally murdered my sister”

[@starscream8989]

FuNNy CoWaRd

[@cadeanimations7045]

My reaction when he said Polnareff is a funny coward: 16:25

[@zar1536]

He also killed vanilla ice who is one of the most powerful stand users in part 3

[@balazscsotai8354]

I wouldn't call Polnareff a coward either. He constantly saw and experienced how life threatening the journey was, but instead of noping out, hiding in a remote place and hoping that Dio won't find him, he kept on going, even after he avenged his sister.

[@Fiteclipz]

You do realize that a character can still fit the very general mold of an archetype while having moments where he’s not in that mold right? Holy shit jojo fans are the fucking worst

[@wheelskellington3112]

the most iconic and instant way to understand jotaro's character is how he acts cold to his own mother and tells her to stop kissing him, but the one time she doesnt kiss him in the morning he instantly recognizes that something is wrong and rushes to check on her

[@bestaround3323]

He definitely really cares about her. He just acts like a delinquent

[@assortedgremlin6895]

Some people just can't figure things out unfortunately

[@GingeryGinger]

As other people have said, that doesn’t really make him an less shallow. Then again, only a handful of characters in jojo are actually decent. The rest have multi-personality disorder (like the villains of part 4 becoming completely different after getting beaten).

[@bigshot9514]

Jotaro's character, in the anime at least, is mostly told through subtext. And not easy to read subtext either. So I can see how someone who isn't too into analysing stories misses it for him

[@raptormage2209]

​@@A.Q7525 He was caring from the start, the first thing he did on screen was put himself in jail because he saw the "evil spirit" as a danger to people, when his mom got sick he went on a life threatening journey so she can recover , Jotaro doesnt show a lot of emotions but that doesn't mean he lacks them.

[@Mogushima]

"The deaths are unceremonious" Well it's not like everyone has some energy left to deliver a speech that lasts half a whole episode in their dying breath.

[@crackerjack0349]

Hell Whamu had a great one. He had a great talk with with Joseph about the honor of a great warrior and that Joseph earned his respect

[@SylentVoidkeeper]

Literally only Avdol has an unceremonious death in Part 3. He gets erased by Vanilla Ice and Cream. Iggy gets a dramatic sacrifice to save Polnareff, and Kakyoin gets to take his last moment of living thought to warn Joseph about DIO's Stand after deducing it *as he is dying* Past part 3? Shigechi gets an insanely dramatic death at Kira's hands, Aya gets a horrific death from him as well. And Kira's own death is incredibly dramatic.

[@ShrimpRice]

why would you want a grand death everytime. A fast quick silent one shows you how dire the situation is and in tern makes it feel more real. Sorry anime fans, people don't get final speeches in real life ☠

[@deanfernandes7604]

​@@ShrimpRice that's why we have Avdol's death. I like it cause its quick and we get a nice little sendoff

[@Mogushima]

@@ShrimpRice That's why the more I see of the "dying characters needs to have last speech" trope, the more I get tired of it. I heard Cosmonaut is a One Piece fan right? Love that series but when I look back at it, it was tropey like *SPOILER and UNPOPULAR OPINION ALERT* looking back at Ace's death I got bored rewatching it because of how his final words is dragged out for a whole episode. Like is he really dying after getting a MAGMA donut from Akainu? And aren't they in a middle of a war? Some enemy should be striking them at one point.

[@velnoa]

Honestly, his initial takes were ehh to me, but calling Speedwagon, a character with no powers who risked his life time and time again against supernatural threats to help the man he owed his life to, and his descendants, funny and cowardly, crossed the line.

[@guillermotoro2342]

Speedwagon best waifu

[@stuckonaslide]

finally, someone who thinks that speedwagon is a good character for actual character traits and not "haha speedwagon best waifu."

[@yungrezzno763]

Couldn’t have said it any better

[@nicmagtaan1132]

i think speedweed is more like a krillin except instead of marrying the best girl he turned into one

[@CanterlotCrusader]

You don't have to like Speedwagon. But cowardly is the LAST word you could describe Speedwagon.

[@Eevee860]

"Character arcs don't exist" ah yes, it's not like koichi and johnny joestar have stands that evolve with their character, like a personification of their character arcs

[@Johnson-br2lw]

So koichi gets worse

[@calemr]

@@Johnson-br2lw I get irrationally angry about how much worse Act 3 is compared to how Utterly Broken Act 2 could be if it was ever used with any imagination. Dude can rewrite the qualities and nature to anything that has a Japanese onomatopoeia (Which is fuckin' everything with how many they have.), And trades it in for "Make stuff heavy.".

[@minatoyukidoorkun3305]

@@calemr in the manga he was shown to be able to swap acts anytime also he doesn't have a choice with how his acts will turn up

[@Mimiro-m2g]

@@minatoyukidoorkun3305 i mean Johnny was able to switch acts 2, 3 and 4 using act 1 all the time technically using it all the time (his nail bullets) so why can't Koichi

[@minatoyukidoorkun3305]

@@Mimiro-m2g I just said he swapped acts I'm not talking about Johnny and I mean when he got a new act he can't pick what'll it be before hand

[@SkullyLink]

“The funny cowardly character” Polnareff vs Diavolo: now hang on a minut-

[@kingknightisbestknight7398]

Not to mention Vanilla Ice

[@Bugretti]

He's the only French man who isn't a coward

[@ricardomiles2957]

I think the most outrageous part was putting Narancia in that category, he's literally the most impulsive hot headed and deadly member of the team.

[@dengaku12]

@@ricardomiles2957 lmaoo deadass Narancia was the dude who initiated jumping that guy with abbachio and mista. Yeah very cowardly to jump a guy because you spilled wine on him

[@alexplayer77]

Narancia also CUT HIS OWN TONGUE. If that isn't a coward move, I don't know what is.

[@devingunnels3251]

"part 6 had nothing memorable" Okay that's how you KNOW he's lying. Love it or hate it, stone ocean was full of memorable moments, if for no other reason than how utterly bizarre they are (pun fully intended)

[@Night_Gale]

I don't really like stone ocean tho cuz Netflix completly ruined it

[@devingunnels3251]

@@Night_Gale I dunno I think they're doing a good job with it

[@MrNoot39449]

@Devin Gunnels Waiting for a year to get 12 more episodes is "doing fine" to you?

[@moncay3238]

@Cristi Goga patches are ass but I like the anime

[@aniphoenix9474]

Stone Ocean is literally the most experimental JoJo ever got You can make a case that part 7 and 8 might be weirder, but come one.. How often do you see anything similar to the ending of part 6?

[@ladypaprika627]

Okay, but fr, nah, Abacchio’s death was not unceremonious. He got caught off guard and killed in an underhanded and brutal way (like how a gang member would kill another gang member), but if he hadn’t succeeded before he died, the entire rest of part 5 would not, could not happen. Abacchio in that scene is single handedly the most important character of part 5.

[@nerdzilla1355]

When you word it that way, it reminds me a lot of how Shigechi died.

[@errortryagainlater4240]

Plus they have a really sad scene afterwards where the others mourn his death and try to move on without him :-(

[@ladypaprika627]

@@errortryagainlater4240 I cried a lot in part 5, those scenes are so hard to get through. Especially the Abbacchio one.

[@cosmicm8]

It makes sense that he was caught off guard by the Boss, much like an actual mafia execution of a traitor.

[@ElMango14]

@@cosmicm8 diavolo isn’t a man of many words. He goes straight for the kill there is no time to talk he’ll just stay longer than expected

[@kamicloudss]

He said Jotaro didn't have any character development which is just a lie. In part 3 Jotaro got annoyed by girls ganging up on him but in part 4 when Tomoko confuses him for Joseph he just calmly explains who he is. That would not have happened in part 3. And this is just a small example. Jotaro by nature is a quiet and reserved person, but theres so many moments of him being empathetic as he got older. I'm pretty sure he just kinda read it just so he could say he read it.

[@mihaiioc.3809]

also him getting ptsd when Kira says his actions are *useless*

[@Gchildwarrior]

And how he protects his daughter, Jolyne, in their fight against Pucci

[@fluffcake]

“Fugo is the calm collective guy” Ah yes the guy who has one of the most deadliest and aggressive stands in the part which by the way, stands are literally manifestations of one’s innermost self is the most chill guy.

[@bestaround3323]

I mean considering he only gets used once despite being arguably the strongest of the group doesn't help. Purple Haze is a horrific Stand, though. Although LA Squadra has a lot of disturbing Stands. Like the worst one, beach boy, wielded by pineapple head

[@Lazy-Lizard]

​@@bestaround3323he's scared of his stand, which is why he doesn't use it

[@TimothyGod]

​@@Lazy-Lizard despite that, it sucks how like use he had. Dunno if it's worse or better than okuyasu (as he helped near the end),

[@strangevol5264]

@@Lazy-Lizard He also had no other good uses against other stand users, and also Araki was too sad to make him betray the group.

[@Sarah12471]

The man whose Stand is the manifestation of his barely suppressed Rage

[@user-zn7qe2xl6h]

Yeah. I'm not someone who unsubscribes to someone for having a different opinion, but with Cosmo, I disagree with his takes on the Raimi Spidey trilogy, Jojo, and TLOU2 because he seems to miss the point of some scenes, characters, or just misinterprets stuff in whatever he's reviewing. This was the problem I had with Dunkey's TLOU2 video where he basically ignored or misinterpreted the valid reasons why fans hated the game.

[@ChronicAndIronic]

Don’t forget the prequels

[@user-zn7qe2xl6h]

That too

[@xblade149]

Oh or he's take on video game movies

[@revolvingworld2676]

So the dude is a massive contrarian? He just hates popular things and likes bad things?

[@amirgarcia547]

@@revolvingworld2676 Pretty much.

[@fairguycole6563]

If you say Jotaro is a flat character, you obviously haven’t read part 6.

[@docvince1491]

FairGuyCole Or noticed his PTSD in part 4 when confronting Kira.

[@drasconboy6349]

In Part 3, he kinda is

[@starbreaker269]

@@drasconboy6349 in jotaros defense hes a product of his time Same with goku who was created around the same time

[@sarthakarora3212]

@@drasconboy6349 he is a tsundere, what do you mean he is flat?

[@Kronecraft]

Not to defend cosmonaut, but iirc, he actually didn't read part 6.

[@amirgarcia547]

Isn’t Cosmonaut also the same guy who said that Joel from The Last of Us wasn’t a beloved character?🥴And also thought that people were angry just because they killed him off without even looking into the context of the situation? Which’s that people thought he was killed off in the most contrived and unsatisfying way possible?

[@xblade149]

Yes

[@incognito200]

Yup. That's him alright. Can't believe he's one of those KZbinrs who assumes a controversy has only cause.

[@jjjmadness8306]

That might of been one of the dumbest things Cosmonaut said about Joel, and that saying a lot.

[@blitzkrieg1098]

Cosmonaut is living proof that anyone can run a successful KZbin channel, no matter how brain-dead they are.

[@jjdude00]

Nothing was unsatisfying about Joels death lmao. It had both heavy story and plot significance which is what a good death needs, unlike 80% of deaths in jojo which make absolutely no effect on the plot other than the character is no longer there. This is coming from a big jojo fan.

[@arbitrarynumbers18]

I'm really impressed that, as someone who hates Giorno, you were able to demonstrate a great understanding of Giorno as a character and describe him in a way that makes him sound really cool.

[@20thcentury_toy]

@@Mangakamen I'm of the point of view he's barely a character so it's hard to call him a character, he's more like a plot device

[@justajobro1266]

Giorno has no emotions, he just achieved a powerful stand like a piece of cake unlike jotaro who had to struggle for the time stop power I like part 5 but giorno is not a good charecter

[@just_a_tarnished4269]

@@justajobro1266 Giorno:cries for Narancias death, griefs for Abaccio and punches Ciocolatta for 30 seconds because he was killing innocents, yep definetly no emotions from this protagonist. And also are you telling me getting the stand arrow was easy? Bruno died for it and they spent like 3 episodes chasing it so that Diavolo woudn't get it.

[@justajobro1266]

@@just_a_tarnished4269 it was still very easy compare it to jotaro's struggle for the timestop ability I mean I know he cries and all but I haven't once seen him laugh/do anything it feels like mistas/ buccurati's part that's what makes it feels like no struggle buccurati was the one that took all the pain and suffering it made me feel bad for him and GIRONO broke some bones yes, but that's his ability healing others and himself so it doesn't even matter, atleast you see jotaro smile/ laugh or get angry for once I mean he is the worst in the diverse selections of joestars but he is still a pretty good charecter,take jotaro or Joseph for example the joke sometimes, get pissed off and are inherently fun to watch whereas giorno does absolutely nothing important until the finale even Jonathan was more interesting girono is definitely the most boring joestar and part 5 was only good because the villans and Bruno's gang. Giorno feels like a side charecter in his own part, and thats a big fault

[@theholydoggo7409]

Giorno is amazing, best animated mf in JoJo (as of now)

[@jays.4969]

“the deaths were unceremonious” yeah because THATS HOW DEATH IS. my best friend was hanging out in her living room one day when her dad started groaning in the other room. ten minutes later, he was dead. no last words, no dramatic goodbye, he just died right in her arms. that’s what makes araki’s writing so impactful, because it doesn’t pander to the audience’s need for closure. Grief is painful and unexpected and raw; you sometimes don’t get to say “i love you” or even “i’m sorry” before that person is gone, and i think deaths like caesar and narancia really encapsulate that feeling. they leave people behind (joseph and fugo) who have to live with the burden of words left unsaid. God i hate how reductive cosmo’s language is, he fundamentally misunderstands the story but preaches to his hundreds of thousands of viewers like his words are the truth.

[@Magnet_Chaos]

Even then I wouldn't use the word unceremonious. We do get a send off for every character that dies. Be it their Ghost visiting the surviving companion, the narrator giving a speech, or something else. Like Narancia had the most "unceremonious" death. But the entire story took a quick break to acknowledge his death. The anime even added that scene with Fugo. The only death that I consider completely unceremonious happens in Part 7.

[@epicwaba6424]

Avdol’s death is still indefensible to me. The dog that showed up halfway through the arc got a bigger sendoff than he did.

[@Dash-lx4ng]

I mean avdol died saving his comrades his friends hell iggy goes the same way but it's slow as to leave us time to grieve and cry

[@epicwaba6424]

@@Dash-lx4ng He already "died" saving his comrades once. It doesn't work twice

[@Dash-lx4ng]

well I mean that was for polneraffs development.

[@Unhipsnow]

"Part 5 is too long i hate it" proceeds to watch one piece

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Oof.

[@crackerjack0349]

Hahahaha

[@alt7970]

part 5 was the shortest part canonically, kinda ironic lmao

[@cithara8954]

it's funny that cosmonaut loves part 4 and hates part 5, even though 4 is *slightly* longer than 5 (in the manga). and in the anime they have the exact same number of episodes **facepalm**

[@crackerjack0349]

@@cithara8954 brilliant

[@bigman1983]

“Fugo calm cool guy” did he actually read part 5?

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

No.

[@pavczok1770]

Why would he

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@pavczok1770 ?

[@pavczok1770]

@@ChiefMedicPururu what

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@pavczok1770 What you just said.

[@takeuchi5760]

Guy calls himself a critic and doesn't even think about the pretext.

[@blackman5183]

i’m pretty sure he’s never called himself a critic lol. he pokes fun that he’s just a nitpicking guy on youtube a lot.

[@Jdn-]

He complains about Diavolo/Doppio being introduced so late but Kira was the same. He was introduced halfway into part 4 but was hinted at as many times as Diavolo.

[@critikalh1t]

This.

[@starscream8989]

I have erased the time of you watching Cosmos video, and Epitaph sees you having a good day

[@so_unknown8335]

@@starscream8989 Oh no King Crimson

[@WeatherReportsHat]

@@starscream8989 Why that was strangely kind of you.

[@officialwaterreviewer]

and even then, the boss was built up from the beginning of part 5, whereas kira in the manga came from left field, they fixed it in the anime by adding a lot of hints

[@RiverdudeCovers]

Great video bro, I’ve been waiting for someone to cover not only that video but Cosmonaut as a whole

[@hackmaniteultra4329]

I like cheese hamburgers

[@spuart3308]

it may be kinda long but MauLer has like 3 separate episodes of the EFAP podcast tearing cosmo a new one

[@hackmaniteultra4329]

@@spuart3308 yes cheese hamburgers are cool

[@DarkKanji7416]

Hi Jojo song man

[@mikedanielespeja6128]

@@hackmaniteultra4329 howbout burgers with pineapple?

[@jman72898]

There is no way cosmo actually watched/read JoJo. He’s literally wrong on so many points like what the fuck did he watch and read compared to me.

[@gfilmer7150]

Polnareff, Speedwagon, Naranchia, Mista, and many others being called "cowards", Fugo being called a calm cool guy which is the exact opposite of his character, Jotaro not having character development (despite the fact he semi-acknowledges it during his section of Part 4) even though he feels very different in Parts 4&5 and feels even more different come Part 6 (which he hardly talks about), him not talking about Part 6 or going into too much detail about Parts 1&2, etc. etc. etc. Polnareff maybe French but he's no coward (and my favorite character). Speedwagon put his life on the line despite having no powers and created the company that helped Jotaro in the future. Naranchia never gave up and had a ton of heart. Mista shot himself so many times and cowards just don't do that. Fugo explains himself. Jotaro I just mentioned, so in conclusion: this man does not know what the hell he is talking about.

[@jonathangetachew1522]

@@gfilmer7150 Lol I get it you pointed out how Polnareff is french before saying he isn't a coward because France surrendered in World War 2 😂😂

[@gfilmer7150]

@@jonathangetachew1522 Yes. And I want this on the record, France held their own in WW1 until 1917.

[@gereniccc4487]

@@gfilmer7150 and yet everyone agrees that the writing is objectively bad.

[@gfilmer7150]

@@gereniccc4487 It’s not perfect but it’s not bad. The writing of the series clearly evolves as it continues and goes from decent to good.

[@tresjackson3027]

Cosmo comes off as the type that likes to hate what ever is popular and give very surface level statements or completely misrepresent or misinform the viewer. Watching this had me think “Did this dude watch the same show that I did?” and calling characters “cowards” when they almost literally get themselves killed for the main goal or protagonist had me cringing so hard

[@Grf1556]

I’d agree with you, but CVH absolutely loves the MCU but never talks about the worst of their films. Even then he handwaves any criticisms.

[@carltasticdrew9633]

A guy who hates DC films but loves MCU, even Captain Marvel, which is mid according to fans. Label people dumb for not liking TLOU2 and She-Hulk series. Yeaaahh, this guy is one of those people if you know.

[@petergriffen1696]

@@carltasticdrew9633from what I’ve watched of him he’s pretty consistent about how the mcu is pretty much the same formula over and over

[@DrJareld]

@@Grf1556bro, he literally has said that the MCU is kinda mid, and a lotta the movies mid or bad. He has entire sections of videos dedicated to talking about the bad movies.

[@DrJareld]

@@carltasticdrew9633 he doesn’t hate DC Films, he hates bad DC films

[@user-qp1nv4mi8k]

Mista: *Funny coward* Also Mista: *Getting shot by his own bullets without the care of blood loss against Ghiaccio*

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Yeah, it's clear he didn't get it.

[@T.V_boi]

Cosmonaut: polnareff is a coward and just for comedy! Polnareff: *Faces DIO without knowing anything about his stand nor backup. Takes the time to find the arrows throughout the entirity of Europe and Africa. Nearly dies to Diavolo, losing his legs. Then continues to help Giorno and the gang to help them defeat him. Even manages to help him when he dies. Yeah, he's definitely the funny coward

[@crackerjack0349]

Also he thought everyone else was dead when he faced DIO and probably thought Diavolo killed Jotaro

[@balazscsotai8354]

Yep. It would be more awful if he pointed where Polnareff cried to show that he's a coward, ignoring the fact that he was sad and felt guilty for his friends' death.

[@belimbingpanas8724]

Funny french man scared of toilet pig

[@gfilmer7150]

I get The French suck at warfare and surrender all the time but Polnareff is the exception. He would rather fight to the bitter end and then some. He's the type of guy who'll rather break than bend.

[@AntonioPerez-if8fq]

I rather mention when he fought vanilla ice, he literally accepts the fact that he’s going to die and says goodbye to iggy

[@woos057]

He should watch videos of Meti: Not the Bad Guy. He goes into detail and analyses every single bit of a character, his abilities and source of inspiration to prove that they are more then just a piece of cardboard regarding character

[@rockhistoria2537]

I actually learned a lot with his videos, especially with Foo Fighters!

[@ROXASOWEN]

Love meti

[@sirjack528]

“The funny cowardly character” *Polnareff vs Dio* *Polnareff vs Diavolo*

[@throbbingfellow1136]

What a damned coward!

[@emblemblade9245]

Polnareff vs 🚽

[@johnny_joestar_toenail2548]

@@emblemblade9245 LEAVE HIM ALONE

[@TheRealGlooper]

@@johnny_joestar_toenail2548 Polnareff vs 🐖

[@furiousstudios4438]

🐢 vs. Diavolo

[@MultiZernez]

the audacity of cosmo to deflect criticism by antagonizing what the jojo fanbase became lmao cosmo is a real piece of work

[@nackskott12]

Any critique based off of trying to binge it nearly 10 years ago without any attempt to refresh or even fact-check is a bad critique by default. He also seems salty that something he didn't enjoy is popular now. Gives off the vibe of a contrarian teenager that judges movies off of CinemaSins videos.

[@gfilmer7150]

I hated Part 2 when I first got into JoJo but after getting through Part 3 and especially after getting through Part 4, I went back to Part 2 and now I really really like it. Same with Part 4, I thought it had a great premise and had a great villain but that it dragged after shoe store battle but now revisiting it, I like Part 4. I still have my critiques, but I like Part 4 a lot more now.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

@@JesseBJames When he was criticizing it...

[@ocarinaofsociety]

His arguments tend to not be good. Like, if you didn't watch the film (or show) that he is talking about, then you might think they are good. But multiple times I watch the film after seeing his videos and am surprised with how bad they hold up. He also comes across like a lot of critics do on youtube, as just being arrogant and the whole "This opinion is the only correct one, and if you disagree, you are dumb." kind of guy.

[@probablysomeone]

So? It's still a opinion. He just used a very aggressive & blind approach. You can insult a show & it's fan base all you want when critiquing something but it won't make it a fact no matter how hard you try. If anything just by looking at the labels on some of the time stamps this video feels like it was made out of spite more than anything & built on the foundation of "your opinion is wrong". It's more childish than the Cosmo rant itself.

[@puddle_han]

@@probablysomeone its not an opinion if he literally brings out no reason at all. Its literally a invalid statement at that point

[@puddle_han]

@@probablysomeone and the fact how you got so mad over a channel that pulls out reasons out of his ass proves that your a cosmo fan

[@imnotanesp6254]

@@probablysomeone This video is literally built on the foundation of not criticizing Cosmo's opinion at all. The entire video is about him going over why Cosmo's reasoning doesn't make sense and how he has no evidence.

[@angryboi595]

I like how Cosmonaut says “he can’t tell what’s going on in the manga” yet doesn’t use the coloured panels

[@jojos_bizarre_fanboy]

Tbf, the colored panels weren't done by Araki, but even than, you wouldn't need them anyway lol

[@mateusgreenwood1096]

the fact he can't tell what's going on just shows how low his iq is.

[@LetsMakePeopleSmile]

Lot of jojo's don't have a character arcs *Looks at Johnny Joestar*

[@crackerjack0349]

*looks at Joseph*

[@bandan8992]

*Looks at Jolyne*

[@raheemaslam7363]

*looks* *at* *gappy*

[@delantebradyjr.8834]

*Looks at Jotaro*

[@nabeelnitro6447]

I mean the guy walked but then couldn't. Now *that's* character development.

[@RealLotto]

Actually, I think that Josuke had character growth, though not as grand as your typical shounen protag. At the beginning of part 4, Josuke was the carefree kid who got pissed off at anyone who talk shit about his hair. After his grandfather died because of Aqua Necklake, an enemy stand, and Josuke with his power couldn't save him, was told by Jotaro to give up, Josuke swore to be the protector of Morioh like what his grandpa did as a policeman. During the Killer Queen fight, he managed to save 2 people from Killer Queen's ability, one of whom was Hayato who also told Josuke to give up because the dead can be revived, but Josuke didn't and believed Okuyasu to be still alive. And in the end, Okuyasu didn't die because Josuke didn't give up his hope (and Okuyasu just say "I wanna go home"). It's honestly beautiful.

[@moderncrusader1150]

Giorno being a placid and subdued main character doesn't make Part 5 any less enjoyable to me because he is written that way to enhance other characters like Bruno and Mista . Not every protagonist have to steal the spotlight in every scene they're in and Giorno's character is an example of doing this perfectly . I also agree with the point that not every character has to progress throughout the story , for example Spike in Cowboy Bebop doesn't change as a person through the story but that doesn't make him a bad character because he performs his role in the story , which is influencing people that he meets in his journey and confronting his past . Giorno's character does the same function in his story because he helps the people around him to grow , like how he gives Bruno the courage to stand up against the boss or how Giorno was able to help Abbachio find redemption from his past .

[@roserose109]

the idea that "this character bad because he doesn't change" is just a myth. A myth that I'm seeing pop up a lot among the anime community. No guys, characters don't need to have character arcs to be a "good or likable character". The most important thing a character needs is a goal (which Giorno has) and not be a blank slate (which Giorno isn't). A lot of very popular, well-loved and good characters don't change into someone else all during their story Just accept that you just don't like that character and move on. That literally _your opinion_ . It doesn't bother me that you don't like a character I like. I like Joseph and Polnareff, but a certain reviewer on youtube doesn't like them personally and I don't care. Because that's _fine_ But making up lies about writing? Creating a false narrative on what makes a good character? Flanderizing the character you hate? Just to make your opinion more "objective"? Now that just pisses me off

[@jurekmc]

besides spike is metaphorically stuck in the past so he cannot advace past that(not a bad thing) and in reality change and growth not always happen or can be very slow or subtle

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

One of the last comments of Cosmonaut: "And then it became popular and the fans became annoying." reminded me of a good friend of mine, who has a similar opinion about Avatar: The Last Airbender. She found the show ok, but not substantial and then began to hate it, because many people "forced" it on her. But yeah, Cosmonaut needs to clean his glasses and his brain, because his comments are so easily to dismiss, even by someone like me, who only watched the first four episodes of Part 3 (because i only look series or films with friends, it became boring watching on my own.).

[@imdone439]

I said this before in the chat but I could never understand why people let others affect how they feel about certain media. I get feeling annoyed by people who won't shut up about something but I do not get why the subject has to suffer for it.

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

@@imdone439 Beats me.

[@xblade149]

To me the whole I dont like this media because of fans is such a high and middle school excuse. Once you reach your 20s and 30s shit like that shouldn't bother you anymore.

[@imdone439]

@@xblade149 exactly

[@infinitedreamer9359]

@@imdone439 I agree with this. Because people let themselves be turned off by the minority of annoying fans of pop culture media,they could be intentionally passing up something they could like and enjoy. Like, just because Undertale fanstuff is everywhere,doesn't mean the original game isn't good in it's own right. It's a dumb excuse and nothing more.

[@kodywatts6886]

I was calm then he described kakyoin’s stand and I almost had an aneurysm

[@vovabars1234]

“hE ShoOtS rOCks” It’s not even his main ability

[@davidtierney7941]

@@vovabars1234 on top of that they’re not even rocks!They’re hardened energy, Kakyoin even says as much!

[@vovabars1234]

David Tierney exactly

[@Itariatan]

Cosmo is like one of those people who think Kakyoin could actually deal damage by painting.

[@TonberryChuck]

cosmo finally looked at his comments for his video and him trying laugh off any legit criticism means he still doesn't want his stance to be dismantled. not trying to say he should a second look at it, but Jesus christ the ignorance is in full display. got it from his Twitter

[@MoeMoeJoeJoe]

"If you're not familiar with Cosmonaut why are you even here?" Because I like your content.

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

"You get this Deus Ex machina bullshi- well I guess part 3 has it in there but I like it so it's different" Man I hate drinking milk because I'm lactose intoleran- well I guess chocolate milk is a milk too but I like it so it's different

[@TheKirbylore]

Guy with really bad rage issues who has a stand that basically personifies his bad rage issues? Cool and Calm

[@ThuglasElBosso]

I will quote Mauler on this. "Whenever someone says they like Cosmonaut, ask them which Cosmonaut they like." His Star Wars 'reviews' are pathetically double-standared, his TLOUII review has only one comment of value, and his Jojo's 'rant' was ridiculously inaccurate.

[@ThuglasElBosso]

@@Mangakamen One of his fans actually argued on Twitter that Cosmonaut was schizophrenic by saying he showed a "variety" of viewpoints.

[@dx5gaming715]

@@ThuglasElBosso lmao

[@ulfberht4431]

As much as I despise Mauler and think he’s just as bad as every other critic out there, I will say that if MauLer, a boring depressing reviewer who is very similar to Cosmonaut in every worst way, is making fun of another controversially bad critic like Cosmonaut, then you know that that particular critic is laughably awful!

[@ThuglasElBosso]

@@ulfberht4431 I respect your opinion, but I am saddened by the fact you see nothing of value Mauler's work, despite it being one of the most informative critiques I know of.

[@alextheloud]

Ah another fan of our lord and savior Mauler 🙏

[@skillige1015]

Part 5 is tied for my favourite part (with 7), Giorno is tied for my favourite Jojo (with Johnny), Diavolo is my favorite villain and Bruno is tied for my favourite character in all of FICTION (with Gyro) so... *slowly shrugs while pterodactyl screeching for no reason*

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

I do admit Manga went a bit on a tangent in his Mary Sue video and this one about his dislike of Part 5. I'm OK with it, we agree to disagree.

[@Reed5016]

I can’t count the amount of times I thought “what the hell is Cosmo smoking?”

[@ilovewater570]

Same

[@mateusgreenwood1096]

@@ilovewater570 contrarian marvel plebeian pot

[@lazyotakuandfangirl]

Jojo characters don't have arcs? Sorry Johnny I guess everything you went through doesn't matter.

[@theopulentone1650]

It makes what we find out happened to him in part 8 all the more tragic.

[@turtleduck5118]

to be fair cosmonaught hasn't read part 7 and probably never will at this point, since he doesn't like the series. idk if i want him to eventually read it so he can be proved wrong in the slim chance that he does like it, or not because he'll somehow find a way to dislike part 7 too -__-

[@madbrosheo1514]

Complaint from Cosmonaut: “Long = bad!” Seriously, he doesn’t even say why. He just says, “This thing is too long!” And then moves on. Great critic.

[@zombo5481]

I think he means that jojo part 3 goes on for so long and continues the same fights which make it kinda dragging but it does give time for the characters to develop but for me I thought it was kinda long but I think he meant it like it dragged on

[@madbrosheo1514]

@@zombo5481 He said part 5 was too long, despite it being shorter than part 4 (I think) which is his favorite part. So part 5 is too long, but part 4 isn’t? It’s just a dumb argument without anything to back it up.

[@zombo5481]

@@madbrosheo1514 yeahh I think Marcus needs better explanation to his points but I feel like most of his content is just what he thinks with his lil explaintions but I personally like his content cause I feel like it's what he thinks with no to much explanation. But yeah it's bad points but I like what he thinks on some movies or shows but yeah he needs to improve on his pointd

[@lucinavonnolaran8728]

And what's Ironic about that is that One Piece is long as fuck, and he showed that to be something he enjoyed because of the segment toward the end, where he's talking about his "developed" taste.

[@zye4809]

@@lucinavonnolaran8728 Frrr. You can't call anything long when you like something that has 8 bijiomsonwne episodes and takes 15 years to get to the point.

[@dominicavery1634]

He called Mista the funny coward? DUDE DID HE READ THE WHITE ALBUM FIGHT?

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

No.

[@pesciisthebestcharacter5100]

Mista shoots himself more than he shoots other people. I don't think cowards do that.

[@crackerjack0349]

@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 plus Mista didn’t succumb to pain and kept firing willing to put his life on the line just to repay Bruno who saved him, and so Giorno can survive to get the info they need. He was fully willing to die then and there to kill Ghiaccio

[@iwatchyoutubevideos1973]

Literally turned himself into Swiss Cheese.

[@Hecatom]

He read a explain the plot badly tweet

[@TheMegapossum]

I mostly dropped off of his content train when he was doing a rundown of Marvel movies, and while he wasn't quite tearing one of them to shreds, he was borderline trashing on it and everything it did, then was like "Yeah it's pretty bad overall and I'm giving it a 6/10"... Yeah no I can't take that seriously lol

[@ironichoneybadger5066]

Cosmonaught as a critic sucks. He’s got consistently bad takes about several pieces of media, Star Wars, Jojo, and more

[@nashwaan2956]

He said that his favotite part is part 4..... But he didn't say anything about Kira-

[@nackskott12]

>complains that you don't find out anything about Diavolo until half way through Part 5 >The villain of his favourite part has like 2 very short scenes before his first major appearance halfway through the series This is what contrarianism does to your brain.

[@crackerjack0349]

@@nackskott12 plus kira was revealed after Sugimoto Reimi appeared and before that there were several fake out characters who made you think they’re the main villain. Angelo, Akechi Nijimura, Akira Otoishi were fake outs each appearing to be the antagonist

[@TheJackster-tl8oi]

Calling Polnareff a cowardly comic relief character triggered me in the same way that tumblr users get triggered when there aren’t enough people of color in some tv series

[@miguelescobedo5112]

Yeah, Cosmonaut is not a very good reviewer because sometimes his reviews are all over the place sometimes he always looks at the negative side of everything and not a little bit of the positive side of it like in his Jojo Video anyway I better get ready to play Citizens Unite Earth x Space and the demo for Balan WonderWorld because both these games are gonna be amazing wish me good luck everyone and have a great day or night.

[@miguelescobedo5112]

@@Mangakamen Thanks Manga I'll enjoy Balan WonderWorld a lot same goes for Citizens Unite Earth x Space too.

[@gh0rochi363]

Mista being called a coward is the worst take I’ve ever heard in about anime ever.

[@rfurthegamer3412]

Speedwagon ain’t cowardly, he just knows his power, what do you expect a dude with a hat to fight Dio Brando head on? Or a frail old man to take on THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM?

[@rollingkirby]

for me uncerimonious deaths are the best kinds of deaths, they represent how sudden death can be so for me they are the most tragic ones(also fuck the "stay with me!" death trope)

[@ediosmollai8785]

man lost me the moments he called fugo calm and cool LIKE MY GUY fugo is 1 bad monday away from turning into greek saga kratos

[@nedofthedead3604]

Speaking of Star Wars I love how Cosmo absolutely despises the prequel trilogy but when it comes to the sequel trilogy he says eh it’s fine, when there are plenty of flaws in the prequels that you can apply to the sequels.

[@ride-playerbb2818]

So he called Polnareff, the guy who has an arc about learning not to rush into fights, a coward?

[@puncherofbread]

The part about the "unceremonious" character deaths kinda shocked me because that's actually a positive for me. In almost any other media when an important character dies there's tons of fanfare are you can almost tell that it is going to happen. In Jojo the characters mostly just die. It makes each death hit a little harder because they were here one moment and now they are gone. Avdol's death scarred me psychologically because I saw the character I had grown attached to just get instantly KOed and the characters couldn't focus on mourning him, they had to survive. Avdol died a hero but it was sudden and I wasn't ready for him to go.

[@1Hol1Tiger]

Avdol's death is shockingly real... One second he's there the next he's gone forever...

[@Xiaolruc]

Bingeing is not the way to take in... well, ANYTHING. The only time media bingeing works for people is if they like the material to begin with.

[@sarafontanini7051]

yeah typically one binges if they're enjoying the story if one binges only out of personal obligation, pride or to prove something....yeah, screw whatever they have to say.

[@HoDoBoDo]

I unsubscribed from him because he was just making based points on the show without actually paying attention. Your video here is a saving grace, thank you for proving him and his fanbase wrong because his video made me want to throw out my TV.

[@HoDoBoDo]

@@Mangakamen I honestly wasn't expecting a reply from you, but thank you for replying also, means a lot.

[@ortiz5186]

He didnt…

[@utes5532]

"The mundane setting allows for something like a fight involving rock-paper-scissors to be exciting" The D'arby brothers: are we a joke to you?

[@kdevelopergw]

"jotaro doesn't have anything except his edgy personality" Remembers why part 6 ended how it did Sure...

[@NotUrProfile]

true lol

[@TheTrainTheoristOfficial]

"You were Two Steps Behind"

[@Darksaviour]

Cosmonaut is the type of guy that seems to hate everything

[@JacklyCraft]

I would like to add that the Requiem setup isn't a Deus Ex Machina since Polnareff did know how to beat the boss, only coulnd't do it alone and was looking for people to do it. The real ex-machina is Polnareff being a Hacker

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

I feel like he is actually being a bit unintentionally sexist when calling Polnareff cowardly. A part of Polnareff's complexity is how he uses stereotypically masculine fronting to cover for his stereotypically feminine emotional sensitivity. His "ladies man" schtick comes across as both comical and heartbreaking for me, because he is clearly a man who can relate to women better than most men, yet oblivious to this because he wants to dive headfirst into a traditionally masculine gender role. What bugs me is how Cosmo would never call out the same traits as "cowardly" coming from a female character. He is accidentally playing into the double standard towards men that demands they be more emotional while shaming them for getting emotional.

[@Nemamka]

That is so beautifully put!! Thank you, I think I love Polnareff even more now

[@kiarasantiago462]

You said it the best. Take my like!

[@vovabars1234]

Thank you for this

[@shooting6lasers]

It probably has a lot to do with the tired trope that the French are “cowardly” and how many of their stereotypes are likened to be feminine in today’s mass culture.

[@crackerjack0349]

Where do you see this from Polnareff? Don’t get me wrong he’s one of my favorite characters of JoJo but I never saw that.

[@Darkswe]

Cosmo can't even hold consistent views for shit. His criticism of movies changes based on if he likes it or not. For example when he peeks his mic shouting about the mandalorian girl from star wars rebels and then saying that Rey doesn't bother him

[@epicow_1973]

13:00 thats actually good. Having little ceremony feels so much more real for a characters death. Imagine just seeing your loved one just die instantly. The panic it puts one into is more. It expresses a lot of feelings. A death with little ceremony invokes so much more fear. And fear is a what araki and david productions is trying to represent.

[@Misto8990]

The funny cowardly character didnt try to run from TWO main villains

[@dragonheart1236]

He fucking blew his nose on the curtains of one of them

[@Misto8990]

@@dragonheart1236 he's literally one of the bravest characters.

[@XIUnicron]

The funny cowardly character was ready to die for a dog too.

[@Misto8990]

@@XIUnicron and in what category would iggy fall into?

[@XIUnicron]

@@Misto8990... Idk

[@errortryagainlater4240]

"You can say that many JoJo characters are funny cowards" Dude I really don't think most of the JoJo cast even knows what self-preservation *is.*

[@Andyatl2002]

Especially Zeppelis and Jonathan

[@pottedplant37_]

Except Fugo

[@yurinoworry]

You “can” say it, he’s not wrong about THAT. It’s just if you do, you’re actually an idiot. And I actually don’t hate Cosmo I’m subscribed :/

[@IPODsify]

Legit every cited "funny coward" is literally less cautious then the main characters

[@severketorskeleton3759]

and it gets worse as parts go on, Jolyne literally poured gas in her and lit herself on fire so she wouldn't die to hyporthermia microbes, Johnny played angry birds with himself and let a fucking horse kick him in the gut so he could get more height, Gappy is the smartest character in this franchise and has the most self preservation yet he still throws himself into the enemy's stand ability in like every fight (might be a low blow since you can't really predict what the fuck the next character is pulling out of their gaping asshole)

[@EggEnjoyer]

How is mista a funny coward when his origin story is literally him getting into a gun fight in order to save a woman? It’s like he didn’t even watch/read this stuff

[@vovabars1234]

Mista is full of resolve,he shot himself like 20 time to win

[@dananaditya9347]

Yeah, jump into saving women getting raped by 4 armed men is literally a cowardice action by cosmonaut standard

[@Pootis-Spencer]

Bro can't belive Guido "I save a woman for terrible situation" Mista is a Funny coward 😭👊

[@killmem8y258]

@@vovabars1234 Mista the Juggernaut confirmed?

[@rubbergamer5092]

He wasn't the funny coward

[@virael3801]

Ah yes, Fugo the calm and cool guy, he's definitely one of my favorite characters alongside Diavolo the kind-hearted and outgoing family man, Okuyasu the highly intelligent and introverted physicist, and Jonathan who's the reincarnation of Satan himself.

[@Gon-hx4df]

Can't forget Dio, the amazing gentleman and master lawyer

[@iantaakalla8180]

And Johnny, the confident non-amputee who is middling at being a horse jockey, and Funny Valentine a great president that is not like any US president at all. Or Yasuho the selfish person who abandoned buried Josuke and her boyfriend Joshu, the social expert keen on propriety.

[@dontburstmybubble686]

@@iantaakalla8180 or jolyne, the evil lawyer that never got caught doing a crime ever. Nope. Ah man i loved that part in part 1 when Johnathan set a ship on fire and tried to kill his wife and son... Good times.

[@riatorex8722]

There's also Kars and his three comrades who died valiantly while trying to prevent Joseph from becoming the ultimate life form and threatening all life as they knew it

[@nothinghappened7599]

We also have Jotaro who is very respectful to his mother and shows mercy to enemies. Josuke who is cool with people insulting his hair. Kira the kind hearted and extroverted man who helps people with their problems. Bucciarati the bad leader who doesn't care about his gang. Abbacchio is such a good friend to Giorno who gets along with him since the first episode.

[@MidoriKyun]

Not gonna lie. When he pointed Fugo, FUCKING FUGO, as "cool and calm" guy, I literally stopped the video and LAUGH. Cool and calm, Fugo. The guy with LITERALLY ANGRY ISSUES! Did he really watched the show, what the hell?! 😂😂

[@Joawlisdoingfine]

The guy who stabbed his friend with a fucking fork, bashed in a prof with a book, and has a stand that embodies pure rage and destruction is a cool calm guy? Was cosmo reading a different manga?

[@MirunaNero]

yes, because his stand isn't one of the most dangerous, and "blast radius" stands in the entire series due to it being a personification of one of his most defining character traits - which is his deep seeded, and extraordinarily violent anger issues and a tendency towards violence just in general. yes, very calm and cool

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

Fugo is cool and calm? Jesus

[@hachonimity4524]

LOL SAME

[@ricky_or_robin2]

yes, fugo calm and cool, whose stand is a literal representation of his inner rage

[@cnvrgnt]

‘It’s not what the powers are, it’s how you use them’ THIS THIS IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT MAKES JJBA GOOD

[@Ashelybee]

Kakyoin signature move its litteraly just throwing rocks but it still looks cool

[@cnvrgnt]

@@Ashelybee Part 3 was when stands were first introduced and were all mainly combat oriented. Part 4 is when Araki gets much more creative with them

[@riatorex8722]

@@cnvrgnt Part 2 and 4 are my favourites. Part 2 is just so damn wacky. Like, the scope of things in that part, where we went from an evil vampiric adopted brother to 3 immortal ancient gods of fitness is what makes it so.. JoJo, you know? I also loved how we get to explore more on Hamon, especially in the hands of one that had had more time in perfecting it Part 4 I feel like is where Araki really started to improve as a writer. The many different, yet clever uses of Stands here is a breath of fresh air compared to Part 3, where almost all Stands are the same in that they're primarily used for combat. It should also go without saying that Kira, in my opinion, is one of the best villains in fiction, ever

[@stuckerfan2563]

I mean look at sticky fingers. It's only ability is making zippers appear out of nowhere but bruno uses it in interesting ways

[@lmahu6627]

@@stuckerfan2563 Cream Starter was inspired by shaving cream, but Hot Pants puts it to good use.

[@rogerpuzzitiello5175]

The whole thing about Diavolo’s story is that he’s a mystery. He’s a guy who doesn’t want his identity revealed at all costs, so much so that he can conjure up a separate identity that is unaware of his real connection with his boss. I think it’s really fitting that we have to wait until the very end to see what the guy looks like. He has such a hard time revealing his identity that, when we first see him in Venice, he has to hide in robes, in the the darkest corner of the room, because of the slightest chance that someone may see him, it’ll be hard to make out what he looks like.

[@beiwubsnsod7378]

Funnily enough before the part 5 anime people said diavolo was the worst villain because you barely knew him, even though that was the whole point of his character. Speedreaders/watchers are a special case.

[@melancholygirl7793]

I don't understand how Diavolo being introduced halfway into the story was a problem for him when the exact same thing happened with Kira. I feel like Diavolo had much more of a prescence than Kira did before they were properly introduced.

[@rogerpuzzitiello5175]

@@melancholygirl7793 He’s even teased near the beginning! When Giorno and Bruno are planning on taking over the Mafia, we see that there’s a boss in charge of everything, so at that point we could all guess that guy will probably have to be the final threat they need to deal with. At that point in the story, they need to focus on getting Giorno into the mafia and rising up the ranks.

[@melancholygirl7793]

@@rogerpuzzitiello5175 Yeah, exactly! Kira's prescence in the manga was one line you could interpret to foreshadow him. While his prescence in the the anime kind of reinforces that one line.

[@benjaminkop7847]

​@@melancholygirl7793 The reason that Diavolo's late appearance is a problem and Kira's is not is because Kira receives tons of development/characterisation during the course of the story, and Diavolo does not. I shouldn't have to explain anything else beyond this.

[@daborshy4089]

1. Encounter supernaturally horrifying situations 2. Experience stress and anxiety 3. Be defined as a "coward"

[@KenanTheFab]

4: Literally ride or die as all hell 5: Will go solo in a fucking 1v2 so he doesn't risk his teammate's lives even if the fight is stacked against him 6: Actively prioritises other's lives over his own 7: Most cowardly character, apparantly

[@CraftingMenace]

I think the most agregious misrepresentation to me, is saying Fugo is the "calm cool guy." His entire stand is based around how he's ANGRY all the time. It literally shoves that he's not calm in your face by saying "his stand is a manifestation of his anger."

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

The guy literally bashes his professor's head in with a textbook

[@icyatlasartworks]

Yes, because stabbing a teenager with a fork over a math equation is calm.

[@grimms8783]

I wouldn't say Fugo is really calm or angry all the time, more he's one or the other and has no in-between phase, just like how Purple Haze was described when it first appeared.

[@fork-man]

@@grimms8783 as a kid he was rised as a puppet and told to follow the lines all the time unable to voice his own opinions or thoughts keeping his emotions down one of his prime emoitons that was Sealed away and grew the most was anger and rage towards his parents teacher and role place on him sexual harassment and possible rape are good contributes

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

Wait, a minute, why 'Vard is here? ;)

[@Dean0094]

Mista jumps out the top window of a building to save Bruno, such cowardly action.

[@Domestic_Abuse]

Yes anyone not a coward wouldve just stayed inside and let his friend die obviously smh🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@kylmiii]

Yup its so coward a fucking 10 year old could do it smh

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@Domestic_Abuse Dude, he was sarcastic.

[@Domestic_Abuse]

@@ChiefMedicPururu i am Being sarcastic who tf uses smh seriously its 2021

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@Domestic_Abuse I've seen cases like that, tho.

[@gvogotenks9137]

He didn't read/watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, he read/watched Joojoo's Ordinary Journey😭

[@ultrainstinctelo]

Lol lmao

[@hemakumar8875]

Ronalds ridiculous road trip

[@briishmate5487]

JayJay's Peculiar Trip

[@dr.loboto1171]

He watched JayJay's Peculiar Trip

[@smellycuh2863]

Gogo's Unusual Travels

[@punishedraiden7145]

It's weird that he decided to rant about something based off vague memories from years ago. At least look through the jojo wiki bro

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Reminds me of those old ranting videos from the infancy of KZbin.

[@kostajovanovic3711]

@@ChiefMedicPururu oh...

[@greasychickenugget4410]

I also wanna point out that Cosmo got mad at the fact that some parts of the show were too weird when he's watching a show with bizarre in the title.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Lol.

[@nessarolla]

Right? It's not Jojo's Totally Normal Day Out.

[@edawgthegoat]

yeah its bizzare so it being to wierd is fine your fucking idoit

[@capitatecab6049]

No offense to him but there are series that are *way* weirder than Jojo

[@LetThereBeDonuts]

Cosmo is also quoted regarding Star Wars "Sometimes you just need to accept the dumb stuff". But somehow he can't do that with JoJos? He's a huge hypocrite

[@junobi653]

I actually love how unceremonious the deaths are in part 5. it makes them feel real. real people don't typically die ceremoniously. they just die. abbachio and narancia were the only two deaths I actually cried over throughout the entire series, mostly due to the other characters reactions (specifically how they grieved for abbachio).

[@___AVARICE___]

Exactly, they wouldn't have as much of an impact if they had a 5 minute speech talking about how dying. They were there and they were gone, just like real people and that makes them more meaningful

[@ollidragon3146]

honestly, I loved Abbachio's death because for the first time since king crimsons introduction, we don't see what happens in the time skip. one frame, everything it fine. the next, theres a fist through abbachio's chest and he's bleeding out. it's horrifying and shocking, and i had to rewatch the scene a few times just to realise what happened.

[@martinaelyse9152]

For real. I find it hard to rewatch Abbacchio's death bc Narancia's mourning just hit too hard for me

[@KenanTheFab]

@@martinaelyse9152 Wanna make it worse? Mista didn't visibly cry or grieve until Naranchia died, implying he was trying to act stoic and brave for Naranchia's sake. Buccharati, despite being a corpse unable to bleed still bit his lip so hard that he drew blood, implying his heart pumped once more. You're welcome.

[@boinqity4621]

YES in real life death is fast, brutal, and can come out of nowhere. im tired of people just dying in the arms of their friends or loved ones and saying some corny bullshit before passing away at the perfect moment to make the scene as "dramatic" as possible. i WANT more unceremonious deaths in media, because in real life not everyone gets a perfect fairy tale ending. vanilla ice can LITERALLY ERASE THINGS FROM EXISTENCE. how the fuck is a "ceremonious" death even possible in that situation. obviously avdol got obliterated at the snap of a finger, thats what an ability like that would actually be like

[@ninjakidkat12]

"Characters in part 3 die unceremoniously". Yeah the way Kakyoin died while, uh, (checks notes) directly confronting the main villain who had been shown to have an ability that seemed like extraordinary speed at the time that had been demonstrated plenty of times before was very unceremonious.

[@keodiozubu8670]

Dude he died by getting punched in thw gut after an attack that was supposedly unblockable

[@ninjakidkat12]

@@keodiozubu8670 Undodgeable would be more accurate actually - If Dio didn't have the timestop he would have to somehow deflect everything thrown at him while also keeping himself and TW from touching HG's barriers as much as possible, which would be incredibly difficult even with TW's base speed (which is about the same level as Star Platinum, who could keep up with Chariot). Second, the fight seemed to suggest that Kakyoin's goal at the time wasn't landing a blow, but rather to draw out as much information about TW as he could, which worked out despite it leading to his death, and ultimately changed the tide of battle into Jotaro's favor. In a way, it's like Avdol's death; A noble sacrifice.

[@keodiozubu8670]

@@ninjakidkat12 I mean did it. Jotaro mostly found that about by himself. Plus even then he did not have anything to stop until he also gained the power to stop time. Hell even with Joseph he could not get the information in time and even he could not even do anything about the stop time. Its like him finding out that dio could stop time meant almost nothing. Second even then with a stand with multiple abilities especially one that is said to reflect or in your case not dodgeable him going out like that with almost no damage done to dio with just simple timestop seems more not ceremony worthy. At least to me anyway

[@ninjakidkat12]

@@keodiozubu8670 If Kakyoin didn't find out about TW's ability and didn't leave his dying message for Joseph to understand, Jotaro would most likely have stepped into Dio's range when Joseph and Dio fell from the rooftops. Joseph yelling about him having to keep his distance kept Jotaro from doing so and ultimately saved Jotaro from being able to be killed in the same timestop Dio "killed" Joseph in. If Joseph didn't have that information beforehand, the fight would've ended then and there. It's funny that you describe timestop as being "simple" despite how absolutely broken it is. It's absolutely feasible that Kakyoin, who didn't know of the ability at that point, wouldn't be able to actually hurt Dio. In fact, the fact that he managed to get close to harming Dio is noteworthy on it's own. Hol Horse's attempted betrayal has shown just how terrifying timestop can be if you have no way to counter it, which has only been done by Jotaro armed with the information of TW's ability plus SP being basically the same Stand. And some rats for some reason. Jotaro is the main character; Of course he'd get the privilege of actually playing Dio at his own game and harming him. If you don't know someone has a timestop ability and/or you have no way to get around the problem, the enemy can just stop time, move out of harm's way and kick you in the balls in the meantime, which is what Dio did. Kakyoin getting the information was really the best he could do and like I said earlier ultimately saved Jotaro's life. It's faithful to what Dio has shown to be capable of while also giving Kakyoin a bit of spotlight, even if it did kill him.

[@keodiozubu8670]

@@ninjakidkat12 That's sorta of a stretch. Cuz the only thing preventing Jotaro from staying back is Joseph saying stand back. Jotaro could have stopped for minute or two just process what happened or Joseph could have figured it out himself and it would have the same affect. Also freaking polnaerf got a stab in and that was close range granted by surprise but still. Also being simple does mean it cant be broken( ots a non point but still). Kakyoin stand had many abilities at his disposal and he could do his from long range. How come he did not even get in one hit in why polnaerf got at least a good stab? His main contribution to the whole fight just seems( my opinion by the way) to relying information that either he could not beat, Jotaro beat by himself and mostly figured out by himself and to Joseph saying at that exact time stay back which could have been without that.

[@WojtekGoose]

I love how Cosmonaut said that he won't read part 7 because his taste for Shounen has stopped developing but part 7 is the moment when the series stopped being shounen

[@stepladder3257]

Imo for some weird reason part 5 didn’t feel shounen while the others did

[@johnross5098]

Part 7 was said to be the best part tho

[@errortryagainlater4240]

I get watching the first parts and deciding that the show isn't for you, hell I can even kind of understand part skipping...but sticking with it all the way through only to stop *specifically* at Part 7? That should be classified as some kind of crime.

[@dubbie7879]

i care to disagree

[@WojtekGoose]

@@dubbie7879 and why is that? Like it's not really a matter of opinion. Jojo part 7 (and subsequent part 8) are both seinen which means a certain demographic not genre. Unless you are talking about the above commentor then he is just joking because really, sticking 6 parts just to stop at one of the most praised parts?

[@austerloowaterlitz1543]

I wasn't really forced into watching Jojo, but did it for the memes and shit. Now, I'm way too invested and I enjoyed each part. It's just so good imo.

[@lain5858]

Yeah JoJo don't take itself serious. Is that kind of anime/manga that you read/watch just to relax and pass your time If you read JoJo with the mindeset of being critical about every little thing, you will never enjoy it

[@noiwontsignyourarmpit5263]

@@lain5858 having that mindset when watching ANYTHING will make you hate it. I guarantee that you could watch some of your favorite childhood movies with said mindset and you will think they are shit. I used to do this and it basically made me hate every movie I watched or game I played. Definitely don't recommend.

[@lain5858]

@@noiwontsignyourarmpit5263 Sadly most people are like this right now Even more when you "look cool" hating on popular stories that other people enjoy And let's face It, the perfect story *don't exist* you will always find flaws and like you said you will end up never enjoying anything in your life

[@Joawlisdoingfine]

@@lain5858 Thats how I roped in friends. Told them about jojo and just eased them into it. I let them just find their love for it. No screaming at them everyday, rather just a few times and leaving them be.

[@taiahunter2600]

Same thing happened to me. Legit binged the show in 2 weeks and read parts six and Seven online. Now I’m buying all the manga and planning to get a bunch of figures

[@annien7831]

Polnareff who persistently ran upstairs towards dio despite not understanding his abilities is a coward. yup definitely a coward.

[@starscream8989]

"if you approach me then you will die" polnareff: bet

[@ortezac.5339]

Ah, yes. Polnareff. The cowardly man who went nuts leaving France to avenge his sister, facing someone who called himself a god head-on with zero shits given. The funny coward who hunted down the Pink Godfather Barbie Doll that turned him into a paralytic and had the strength and determination to latch onto another soul just to make sure Pink Godfather Barbie is defeated. Funny coward indeed. Very cowardly.

[@JustADemon2023]

It’s a pretty odd critique to call someone a coward when their actions throughout the whole series contradicts that statement. For Dragon Ball fans, it’s like calling Goku a lazy cowardly fighter who always wins a battle because he’s the main character who never made a single mistake in the entire series.

[@superbrainz2357]

@@JustADemon2023 Its just a horrible take. Even in his first battle polnareff is overly cocky and smug to the point it ends up costing him the battle. As he burns to death he refuses to use the knife avdol gave him to try and stab him in the back and chooses to burn to death with dignity. Avdol even blatantly states that polnareffs sense of honor overrode the commands of DIO's fleshbud. He almost gets Avdol killed because he underestimates his Hol horse and wont back down. Cosmonaut has been a bad take machine over the past few years imo.

[@FTMothman]

“I’ll kill you if you approach me” “You hired the man who assaulted and killed my sister, and your lackey killed two of my friends, I will stop at nothing you slaughter you DIO.”

[@CommanderLatias]

introverted character: - exists - some ppl: edgy, emotionally unavailable, sketchy, little empathy because they dont have over the top reactions, must be secretly evil/abusive or some sht because theyre not super easy to read and that gives me bad vibes reee

[@Scalesthelizardwizard]

people are fucking stupid

[@BAMGM]

“Introverted characters”... do _not_ shout at their sweet momma, calling her an “annoying bitch”, for no reason.

[@thecommentsuperhero8578]

Jotaro is edgy whether you like it or not. Insulting everyone you meet including your own mom for no reason isn't an introverted attitude, it's just being a dick.

[@roserose109]

@@thecommentsuperhero8578 why do you sound like such a crybaby?

[@thecommentsuperhero8578]

@@roserose109 Could ask you the same. Hurt because I criticized your fav anime character?

[@eduardomoreira8110]

he said polnareff is a coward, after everything he did in part 3 and 5... wow, that's stupid

[@kakyoindonut3213]

while polnareff literally save jotaro from dio cutting his head, and help the gang defeat diavolo, and make polnareffland

[@man-wv8xj]

@@kakyoindonut3213 wait he got to make polnareff land? 🥺

[@kakyoindonut3213]

@@man-wv8xj no

[@starbreaker269]

Polnareff was literally the workhorse of part 3. They don't call it polnareffs adventure for nothing

[@eduardomoreira8110]

@@starbreaker269 No jokes, I think he was the protagonist of part 3

[@manupm9161]

*Bucciaratti:* we're going to kill the boss, this is a really dangerous quest and we'll probably going to die, I you don't want to come I understand. *Mista:* OK, I'll risk my life for the team *Cosmonaut:* wow, what a cowardly decision *Fugo:* I won't go, I appreciate my life, and don't want to die *Cosmonaut:* that doesn't makes sense, why wouldn't you want to go to a suicide mission, this isn't realistic and good writing 😭😭😭

[@Sillylittlegoober_lol]

Literally how he probably reacted when reading part 5 lol

[@fishy492]

"I can't name a single character trait for Giorno" Well, he has a dream

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

The foundation of One Piece is the dreams never die, but yet people constantly keep shitting on One Piece even though it’s objectively the best Shonen/Shonen Jump series of all time.

[@okami9039]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr one piece is not the best shonen

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@okami9039 , it has the best themes of family members are your family regardless if they’re biologically related to you or not; it has the best themes of dreams never dying; Zoro and Mihawk are more badass stoic than Jotaro; it has the best themes of not all Pirates are evil, and not all Marnies are good; Fishmen Island Arc was able to do themes of civil rights without it being propaganda, and it showed a none biased historically accurate version of the civil right movements, and Zoro from One Piece is the best character of all time.

[@axson8]

Let me quote someone who described Giorno "He's calm and cool" -Cosmonaut Variety Hour Cosmo literally says Giorno has no character traits then proceeds to contradict himself in less then 30 seconds by saying he's calm and cool. How he has the amount of subscribers he does baffles me.

[@Loudshark_]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr but it’s too long for a average weeb. Just saying. I can’t call it the best when I can’t even watch the entire series since it’s too long and too much

[@ChadBenjamin]

"Part 1 isn't that memorable", but it's only 44 chapters/9 episodes and people remember Kono Dio Da, Danny's death, Dio rejecting his humanity, Speedwagon's abs, Sunlight Yellow Overdrive, Zeppeli's sacrifice, Dio making a mother eat her own baby, Thunder Cross Split Attack, and Jonathan's death. One could argue it's the most memorable since there is so little of it.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Yeah, but the memes are pretty much THE memorable parts of Part 1.

Wait, when did Speedwagon show his abs?

[@ChadBenjamin]

@ When he thawed Zeppeli's frozen arm.

[@sammy6805]

@@ChadBenjamin I don't think anyone cared about danny,dio making a mother eat her own baby, and thunder cross split attack and kono dio are just remembered as memes nothing else. At least that's what I think

[@aakarshasoka6335]

I love Part 1.

[@BidonTurtit]

for the cosmo fans that say you dont have to bring up arguments for not liking something. We know, but cosmo`s video was literally about bringing up arguments for not liking something and most of his arguments were A) his fault for not paying attention or not approaching the series in a good way or B) just false and put there for content

[@Mangakamen]

Thank you

[@IsGrouse]

not true though the only thing I can really say he was wrong about was Polnareff being a coward and Fugo being calm the rest was pretty accurate

[@Sparks0114]

@@IsGrouse what points of his was accurate?? Please tell me

[@IsGrouse]

@@Sparks0114 most of the characters in golden wind act the same

[@Sparks0114]

@@IsGrouse like who?? Name them. Because you’re wrong, Also. If THATS the only thing you got from Cosmonaut’s video, that means he really did a shitty job

[@inconemay1441]

The moment someone says that "you are brainwashed!" I instantly dismiss their opinion because they technically attempt to brainwash me as well.

[@ImmaLittlePip]

@@emmalion1976 what?

[@deezgod45]

@@emmalion1976 I think you commented this on the wrong comment

[@sandwichmonster7067]

"Obviously you having a different opinion from mine could only mean that you are a brainwashed fool! Why else would anyone disagree with me!"

[@canrex7540]

Gotta love Dogma

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@emmalion1976 bruh... did you read the comment?

[@cyanlos01]

25:04 - Is he serious? Araki's whole signature writing style is establishing introductory character traits the moment you meet them. THE MOMENT YOU MEET THEM. You see this not just with Giorno, but with everyone -- including Bucciarati, Fugo, Narancia, Mista and Abbaccio. Hell, especially Diavolo, and that's BEFORE you've even seen him. How does that escape this Cosmo guy?

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Because he doesn't give a shit.

[@Hecatom]

He just read a poorly wrote wikia it seems

[@j.j.hector735]

Same guy who confidently says that he didn’t understand the entire plot of Phantom Menace for years and thinks he had the right to criticize the movie, how anyone take this guy seriously, is genuinely surprising

[@supremecud147]

@@j.j.hector735 no hes kinda right ab that lmao

[@kingbash6466]

Cosmonaut really comes across as that type of guy that feeds into the internet contrarian stereotype: the guy that goes against the popular consensus just to get views, but when people makes arguments against him, he pulls the whole “it’s just my opinion, guys.”

[@sock312]

That’s exactly how he is

[@kingsadvisor18]

Not only that. He's a genuine hipster. Guy unironically likes The Last Jedi

[@xblade149]

@@kingsadvisor18 i like the last jedi. I know its flawed but some of Marcus points were bullshit

[@atomicarchive3381]

One of the many you tubers I can’t stand much like ihe and pewdiepie. He uses the phrase JuStMyOpInIoN as a blank term for him just to get views and not any actual criticism because the loves circlejerk everything

[@phcookie.t]

An opinion would be like: “I really like this character and wasn’t a fan with how he was handled” Cosmonaut opinion be like: “Araki is a terrible writer, here are 10 instances that prove this notion to convince you, no one should like this ever again, but just my opinion jk.

[@nighpaw4651]

"Even people who like part 5 agree with me" Giorno is my favourite character, I find him really interesting, with things like the mix of dio and jonathan and never crying because he knows it's useless

[@changedcj007]

I see what u did😂

[@nighpaw4651]

@@changedcj007 if I am thinking right, it wasn't intentional but I am not complaining

[@flogiston2ify]

but he cried after Abbachio and Narancia, wtf man

[@nighpaw4651]

@@flogiston2ify that just showed how bad that situation was

[@NoobTheNewt]

​@@nighpaw4651 I disagree with him being interesting because he is a mix of Dio and Jonathan. I hate cosmos video as it is BS, but that was the only part i agreed with. IMO Araki could have done a lot more about Giorno being the son of one of the most dangerous stand users on the planet instead of never showing him again after part 5.

[@mumblerogre2455]

“Jotaro has no emotion” But then Jotaro puts himself in mortal danger to save his mom and goes apeshit when DIO kills Joseph. No emotion my ass. Same goes for Giorno

[@329link]

He needs to learn the difference between no emotion and subtle emotion.

[@bandan8992]

Nonono I dont like this dude but I will give him a pass on that comment if he only watched the anime cause they did jotaro dirty in the anime version for he did not exactly have the most amount of emotion like the manga I understand why he acted the way he did in the anime I respect but its sad we did not get to see him smile more or have more reactions in the anime

[@329link]

@@bandan8992 he explicitly stated he read the manga first.

[@lain5858]

If Jotaro had no emotions he would not save his mother in the first place. Because he would not *feel compassion* enough for her and would not *feel guilty* in leting her die People without emotions are basically psychopaths People should at least have a Basic notion of psychology before trying to analyze characters Or stop counfounding "expression" with "emotions" Yeah Jotaro is not much expressive but he have a Lot of emotions

[@josukehigashikata8690]

Part 6?

[@N_DAnimationEnthusiast]

Huh. Even if you hate Giorno, you explained him better than Cosmo ever could. Thanks, Manga.

[@N_DAnimationEnthusiast]

@@Mangakamen Interesting. Good to see you again.

[@emeraldwolf3494]

I don’t really like him either TBH he just doesn’t feel like a JoJo, only at the very beginning and very end of Part 5.

[@CMan-x7k]

@@emeraldwolf3494 I chalk that up to him being the son of Dio.

[@emeraldwolf3494]

@@CMan-x7k it’s not that, he just feels irrelevant for most of the part

[@CMan-x7k]

@@emeraldwolf3494I've only seens parts of Giorno in Part 5 so I can't give a complete opinion, but from what ive seen in part 5 and EOH he seems decent enough.

[@giantpinkcat]

How could he say Fugo is 'calm' when Fugo's entire backstory is based on his violent tendencies?

[@Green_Falcon]

Purple Haze is the embodiment of why Cosmonaut is wrong

[@jericho9642]

Fugos whole character dynamic is hes the calm cool guy archetype that Cosmo describes but he has outbursts of rage so I think Cosmo is right in calling fugo that archetype

[@johndiddilyjoe6258]

​@@jericho9642 calm and cool is an archetype in and of itself but Fugo so much more clearly has a Dr Jekyll, Mr Hyde thing going on. You can't be calm and cool but also prone to bursts of anger, those are opposing character traits.

[@playernotfound9489]

or you can say... BATTLE TENDENCIES

[@DemonicRemption]

@@Green_Falcon Yeah Purple Haze is the physical embodiment of Fugo's anger and ill temper. Furthermore it shows that Cosmonaut didn't pay attention because the first thing we see Fugo do is lose his temper and strike Narncia for getting a math problem wrong. But he's the "calm" guy...Right... EDIT: 23:30- 23:43 Oh speak of the devil, MangaKamen proved my point.

[@meleemastermaa1449]

"Polnareff is a cowardly character" The dude straight up jumps towards DIO almost killing him Cosmotards will say "iT's hIs OpiNiOn" when the dude is straight up making objective statements.

[@moderncrusader1150]

The Cosmonaut fanboys are like those 2015 prank channels who just say "it's just a prank bro" when someone confronts them except they say "it's just an opinion bro" because they can't take any valid criticism

[@98030]

@@moderncrusader1150 it do be like that

[@ufazig]

@@moderncrusader1150 Everybody hides behind this "oh it's just an opinion bro, art is subjective lol. Objectivity doesn't exist lol" Bunch of morons.

[@whiterunguard6415]

dude this is Cosmonaut's opinion, he says so himself. this is not a argument meant to sway others to his side. He is telling people about HIS OPINION.

[@ufazig]

@@whiterunguard6415 Irrelevant. If he said something that is directly contradicted by the show, he is wrong. End of discussion. You can't hide every dumb shit you say behind "it's my opinion". If your opinion can disproven by evidence, or by simply pointing out a fact, then it's a wrong opinion.