History of the Tocharian Languages

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Costas Melas

Costas Melas

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History of the Tocharian Languages, Turfanian Tocharian , Kuchean Tocharian, Kroränian Tocharian
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@tapadhleibh3052
@tapadhleibh3052 Жыл бұрын
Tocharian is probably the most interesting branch of Indo European to me.
@qaz1001
@qaz1001 Жыл бұрын
Anatolian too
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
don't call them Tocharians... they are Kuchean, Agni, Arci people just call them Tarim mummies. because original Tocharians are Indo Iranians, Tarim mummies are not
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad Жыл бұрын
​@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Tarim mummies is not IE
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz 5 ай бұрын
@@Scythian_nomad tarimmumis are indoeuropeans . They the one of second big indoeuropeans tribes in this area
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz 5 ай бұрын
@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat tocharians arent indoiranic. They tocharians a seperate branches of IE
@asitwaghmare01
@asitwaghmare01 Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to know that there was an Indo-European language branch in what is now China
@zakaryloreto6526
@zakaryloreto6526 Жыл бұрын
That's why the found blonde mummies in Uyghurstan
@AlqanmyshQaiyryr
@AlqanmyshQaiyryr Жыл бұрын
​@@zakaryloreto6526the Tarim mummies weren't Indo-European, stop being so Euro-centric, they were related to ANE, and were a remote population. Blonde hair appeared in Central Southern Siberia (approximately) that's why they had this kind of hair. They looked Asian but developped European-like looks because of the climate of the Tarim Bassin at the time.
@kiyomiflash2513
@kiyomiflash2513 Жыл бұрын
There is still an indo-european language spoken in China. Tajik
@goqailysm
@goqailysm Жыл бұрын
​@@kiyomiflash2513tajik isn't spoken in china, it's an incorrect exonym. majority of them speak sarikoli and a minority wakhi
@GrigRP
@GrigRP Жыл бұрын
​@@zakaryloreto6526Blond hair exists in many people. Not too mention, most IE people weren't even blond.
@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV
@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV Жыл бұрын
The long-lost eastern cousin in the Indo-European family tree.
@jout738
@jout738 11 ай бұрын
Is this language then releated to the altaic languages, when its closer to that region? I did not know he could find information of langauges that already died thousand years ago, when that would be very difficult. Ukraine where indo-european languages came from just seems so far away from this language.
@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV
@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV 11 ай бұрын
@@jout738 Tbh, I haven't looked into Tocharian enough to be able to give an answer. I know it's Indo-European, and that in the Centum/Satem divide it surprisingly fits in the Cetum half, which includes branches on the geographically opposite side of the Indo-European area - Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Hellenic, etc. As for any relation it might have to Altaic languages... well, Altaic is today mostly considered an outdated categorization, as similarities between the Turkic, Mongolic and Tungusic can be explained much better with contact/borrowing/Sprachbunds than with descent/common origin/families. Given it's geographical location, it's entirely possible that Tocharian might've had similar linguistic relations with pre-proto Turkic and steppe substrate languages, and later other groups too. But, at least as far as my knowledge of recorded history and extrapolation from it can garner, Sinitic and Iranic would've left a much bigger impact on Tocharian than groups like the Xiongnu, the Turkics or the (at least according to previous Costas Melas' videos, Indo-Aryan) Wusun
@trollgegael
@trollgegael 11 ай бұрын
@@jout738no it's indo-european, also the altaic hypothesis has been debunked
@jout738
@jout738 11 ай бұрын
@@trollgegael Okay I just didnt see it that clearly where it came from. Seems like the most eastern Indo-european language, that then went to die out after altaic people attacked them.
@trollgegael
@trollgegael 11 ай бұрын
@@jout738There is no altaic people? Its an old lingustic theory thats been phased out
@ElHeraldoHispano
@ElHeraldoHispano Жыл бұрын
It's sad that these two (or three) languages ended up disappearing together with Anatolian, Phrygian and para-Celtic languages. RIP.
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Жыл бұрын
phyrgian and anatolian sadly bcs of greeks mostly
@noelxlk
@noelxlk 11 ай бұрын
​@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775i hope that is not hating on greece
@leonardo_fratila
@leonardo_fratila Ай бұрын
What is para-celtic?
@ElHeraldoHispano
@ElHeraldoHispano Ай бұрын
@@leonardo_fratila It is a paraphyletic group of Indo-European languages which supposedly aren't exactly Celtic or Italic, yet they belong to the Italo-Celtic branch. Some para-Celtic languages could have been Lusitanian, Ligurian, Paleo-Corsican and Venetic. Since it's a paraphyletic group, these languages are not exactly closer to each other than to Italic or Celtic, therefore "para-Celtic" is just an umbrella term to refer to those Italo-Celtic languages which supposedly weren't Italic or Celtic.
@leonardo_fratila
@leonardo_fratila Ай бұрын
@@ElHeraldoHispano Oh ok thanks
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx Жыл бұрын
perhaps it might help if the map was a bit more topographic to show the mountains surrounding the areas these groups are traveling around. i know these tocharians entered into dzungaria and the tarim basin which are surrounded by mountains with dzungaria being a big entry point
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
You're right. They really only moved through corridors, between Altai and Tienschan
@VinsCool
@VinsCool Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I have never heard of this language family, and considering how young it died out, I am not surprised about missing that one entirely.
@stevenfallinge7149
@stevenfallinge7149 Жыл бұрын
Still later than Anatolian (Hittite), Phrygian, and Phoenician. So it's likely to do with location too.
@KartovOndulevitch
@KartovOndulevitch Жыл бұрын
I love the aesthetic of your work. The lines around the full color zone give nuances, and the music fit perfectly ❤. How do you draw your maps? I really would like to know how you work, how you can achieve such art
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I use also the animation program blender
@bluemym1nd
@bluemym1nd Жыл бұрын
The Indo-Europeans who never actually were in Europe nor India. Fascinating Well maybe a bit in India but you get the point
@najibullahghafori3739
@najibullahghafori3739 Жыл бұрын
that's why they got extinct, joking 😁😁
@GrigRP
@GrigRP Жыл бұрын
There are plenty who are not. Armenian, Kurdish, Iranian, Afghan, Pakistani, Tajik etc.
@bluemym1nd
@bluemym1nd Жыл бұрын
@@GrigRP armenian can be considered in Europe. The rest aren't even indo-european
@najibullahghafori3739
@najibullahghafori3739 Жыл бұрын
pakistan is basically an extension of afghanistan and india, punjabis and sindhis are indians while pashtoons and balochs are afghans , so yes half of pakistan belongs to india and the other half to afghanistan@@GrigRP
@GrigRP
@GrigRP Жыл бұрын
@@bluemym1nd Armenia isn't in Europe, and the rest are Indo European. Where did you get your gypsy education?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Reuploaded due to the mistake in the timer
@wilcowen
@wilcowen Жыл бұрын
I love mapping videos with unique concepts thats what makes you and ollie some of my favorite mappers
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@wilcowen
@wilcowen Жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas your welcome
@iroquoianmapper
@iroquoianmapper Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@brauchebenutzername
@brauchebenutzername Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Long I have wait on this vid of afanasijan language.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@zakaryloreto6526
@zakaryloreto6526 Жыл бұрын
Forgotten side of the Indo European languages
@adm8849
@adm8849 Жыл бұрын
Petition to bring these back
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
you can't do this boi.
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat There is some vocabulary left from Tocharian A and B
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
@@Nastya_07 Traşşişi Maķne spantù... Traşşişi Maķ Ñãs
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad 6 ай бұрын
​@@Nastya_07 There is no one to speak them; Tocharian-speaking people were exterminated by the Chinese and Tibetans in the Middle Ages
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 6 ай бұрын
@@Scythian_nomad We still have medieval Tocharian texts available.
@veritasdeutsch6608
@veritasdeutsch6608 10 ай бұрын
seeing the blank map at 4:04 almost made me tear up
@franciscor.6828
@franciscor.6828 11 ай бұрын
Thank. I was wait for this languages map history 👏
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 2 ай бұрын
They are assimilated by Karluks and Uyghurs, later Karluks are become Uyghurs too. very good genetic position
@commanderjnm2008
@commanderjnm2008 4 ай бұрын
How related are Tocharian languages to East Indo-European languages like to the Iranian languages or to the Armenian Language?
@BlueBird-q8k
@BlueBird-q8k Ай бұрын
Its actually pretty distant to indo Iranian languages there are some loan words from vedic and scthyan other than that most linguists say most close language family to Tocharian is either Germanic or Anatolian branches
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Ай бұрын
@@BlueBird-q8k Actually most linguists see Tocharian as the 2nd branch to split from the rest of the language family, with the 1st to split being Anatolian
@BlueBird-q8k
@BlueBird-q8k Ай бұрын
@@Nastya_07 yes i know
@commanderjnm2008
@commanderjnm2008 27 күн бұрын
@@BlueBird-q8k Thanks so, even for an ancient Vedic-Indian who spoke Vedic Sanskrit or let's say an Ancient Zoroastrian monk who spoke "Avestan Indo-Iranian language" for example, would NOT be able to communicate with an ancient Tocharian speaker then from what I gather from your info? Mutual intelligibility would be low even back then?
@BlueBird-q8k
@BlueBird-q8k 27 күн бұрын
@@commanderjnm2008 yeah i know it sounds crazy but Tocharian Languages have split of pie 5 thousand years ago and about for about a thousand years they were isolated from other indo European languages So yea when indo iranians migrated east word and getting in touched by Tocharian they were isolated for a thousand years ! So i can only imagine they wouldn't understand each other at all A example for you for how much time have spent is that English have branched out about 1300 years ago from german And it was not completely isolate it had a lot of contact with german So you can only imagine how different those languages would be
@JerryHu1998
@JerryHu1998 9 ай бұрын
The Tocharians seem to be very close to the Celts, but not so close to their neighbors, the Iranians.
@najibullahghafori3739
@najibullahghafori3739 Жыл бұрын
does the name " takhar " in modern day afghanistan come from Tocharians? even in the video there is a brief moment where after the kushan empire the language still stays in afghanistan specially in the region now known as Takhar province
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Yes, for a period this region was called Tocharistan
@andriusgimbutas3723
@andriusgimbutas3723 Жыл бұрын
​@@CostasMelasExcept actual Tocharians from Bactria weren't the modern "Tocharians" as people now call the IE inhabitants of Tarim basin
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
@@andriusgimbutas3723The Bactrian Tocharians were the Yuezhi, who probably spoke Tocharian and/or Saka before switching to speaking Bactrian.
@АндрейБогуславский-б9о
@АндрейБогуславский-б9о 3 ай бұрын
@@CostasMelas We call them Tohars now. And what were they called 2000 years ago? What was their self -designation? It's about the same as with Byzantium. The Byzantines themselves did not call themselves that. Modern Tokharistan has nothing to do with those Tokhars. Just like the Minoans in Crete. The Minoans are a made-up name.
@leonardo_fratila
@leonardo_fratila Ай бұрын
​@@Nastya_07 so you mean the pre-indo-european bactrian languege or...
@user-en2rg5xq1e
@user-en2rg5xq1e 10 ай бұрын
In Afghanistan there is a region called tochar which there people spoke tokharian at the time
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 9 ай бұрын
Most people in the Tokharistan region actually used to speak Bactrian, an Eastern Iranian language.
@L0ngb0wCaravel
@L0ngb0wCaravel 4 ай бұрын
Imagine in an alternate history tocharian survived and what in this timeline we call east turkestan is called tocharistan (probably not the actual name)
@CrsdrsWrStnsts
@CrsdrsWrStnsts 2 ай бұрын
There is a Japanese man that says Ainu language is delivered around 80% percent from Tocharian B (and some words have relationship to other PIE brunches) about vocabulary. Also this is just a my opinion as a amateur guy, Japanese grammar has simularity to PIE brunches. For example many Japanese words that are infinitives do end with -ru like romance languages, and past tense is - ta, like -to of Italian past perticiples. And also some words have simularity to Indo-European like "雁" (goose) reads "gan" and in Portugues it's ganso. Some one should research these things. and other talk, I'm sad that some Chinese communists are genociding the descendants of this language speakers and also other people too like Tibetans and inner Mongolia people.
@samuelfanning6598
@samuelfanning6598 Жыл бұрын
So, any idea what language was native to the Tarim Basin before the arrival of Tocharian language? Could you share the sources on this migration?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
See the book Siberia: A Cultural History - Haywood, Antohny and the sources I used in the video about IE languages
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad Жыл бұрын
Turkic
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad Жыл бұрын
Tarim mummies is not IE Tarim mummies turkic ancestors
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
​@@Scythian_nomadTarim mummies are Archaic North Eurasian people not Turkic.
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz Жыл бұрын
Tocharien is indoeuropean No other people have a difference hertaige like tarim mummis They must be the tarim mummis The pictures on walls are blond too. Indoeuropeans in eastasia 😎
@denkapeneva2018
@denkapeneva2018 Ай бұрын
Have they to do with proto bulgars many of bulgar khans got iraniac names even 1 celtic name like kuber😅
@Normal_user_coniven
@Normal_user_coniven Жыл бұрын
How do you still don't have the ✅ verification mark? You are either don't want to have it or underrated.
@TheNewWorldOrderColumbus
@TheNewWorldOrderColumbus 11 ай бұрын
Never uses negative expressions
@parvadhami980
@parvadhami980 2 ай бұрын
Kushans being Tocharians
@blaine5589
@blaine5589 Жыл бұрын
So what happened to them?
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
Assimilated by Modern Uyghurs
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad 6 ай бұрын
​@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Brad wrote, the Uighurs are not relatives of the Tochars, perhaps the Khotanese have a little from them, but the Khotanese are mostly descendants of the Sakas, the rest of the Uighurs are Turks both in language and in origin
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 6 ай бұрын
@@Scythian_nomad No when Turkic people assimilate Tocharians, Later this Turks assimilated by Uyghurs
@x-error404alphaepicfellsan9
@x-error404alphaepicfellsan9 5 ай бұрын
Qarluqs came, conquered, assimilated and then exterminated them
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 5 ай бұрын
@@x-error404alphaepicfellsan9 Later this Karluk become Uyghur
@suhnih4076
@suhnih4076 Жыл бұрын
They do be ringing tho
@destrovskyj
@destrovskyj 11 ай бұрын
how did the language disappear? turkic migrations (uyghurs)?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it was the main cause
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad 11 ай бұрын
The Chinese exterminated them in the Middle Ages, some went to Afghanistan along with the Sakas and became Iranianized
@alexangelo1998
@alexangelo1998 Жыл бұрын
But Northern India was conquered by other Tocharians who were Eastern Iranians (Yuezhi)
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
You are probably refer to the Kushanites. They were confederation of Saka and Tocharians
@messatsu85
@messatsu85 Жыл бұрын
🇦🇱 TOK *EARTH / LANDS 🇦🇱 ARIAN *GOLDD TOK-ARIAN ARE ILLURIAN DARDANIAN HELLEN STOKS.
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
Because both Illyrians and Tocharians are Indo-European And it is unlikely that the Tocharians called themselves "Tocharians"
@agalitev
@agalitev 11 ай бұрын
delusional.
@messatsu85
@messatsu85 11 ай бұрын
@@agalitev facts
@noelxlk
@noelxlk 11 ай бұрын
albanian not trying to say the universe is albania (impossible)
@DesireeStokes
@DesireeStokes 11 ай бұрын
P R O M O S M
@bricksmanacci
@bricksmanacci Жыл бұрын
kurgan chads
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad 11 ай бұрын
Relatives of Dagestanis
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 11 ай бұрын
Tocharians were Indo-European
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad 6 ай бұрын
​@@Nastya_07 According to genetics, relatives of Dagestanis
@eldorbekbaxodirov3479
@eldorbekbaxodirov3479 3 ай бұрын
Не родственники
@kenanhasan9784
@kenanhasan9784 Жыл бұрын
I think Tocharian language one ancestors of Turkic languages.
@yetkinbilgen3430
@yetkinbilgen3430 Жыл бұрын
No they were their own unique Indo European language, However with the Turkic Uigur imigrations to modern day southeastern Turkestan, their language and culture fully assimilated within 2-3 centuries. (Turkic W over indo eauropens in Central Asia as always)
@galgar5660
@galgar5660 Жыл бұрын
​@@yetkinbilgen3430Russian came for revenge😏
@yetkinbilgen3430
@yetkinbilgen3430 Жыл бұрын
@@galgar5660 yeah, but difference between birthrates and imigration/emigration is taking revenge's revenge 🤓
@mirzabaig17
@mirzabaig17 11 ай бұрын
@@yetkinbilgen3430 and then Russians came and central asian turk got subjugated by them
@PatriotOfPersia
@PatriotOfPersia 7 ай бұрын
Please don't thinking with your stupid brain
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
The title "Yabghu" which passed from the Yuezhi Kushans to the later Turkic polities is probably the greatest linguistic heritage left by the Tocharians
@nkoramids4591
@nkoramids4591 Жыл бұрын
😅
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
Yabghu is title pf Karluk people
@plov638
@plov638 Жыл бұрын
Yea
@Flozone1
@Flozone1 Жыл бұрын
Well they also loaned some words in Old Chinese, including the one for chariot, which then spread within the Sinosphere.
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz 5 ай бұрын
Bog means in slavic good. In old iranic bagga. They turk Titel bey or beg came from indoeuropean bog
@hieratics
@hieratics Жыл бұрын
A suggestion, could you do one about the expansion and decline of Occitan and Catalan languages
@XuanMelendez
@XuanMelendez Жыл бұрын
Així ÈS, POSEU-HI LES "M'AGRADA". Jo volia ofrecer això, però aquest home es feu més veloç❤
@polishhussarmapping258
@polishhussarmapping258 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that Catalan is thriving and Occitan is fading.
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 Жыл бұрын
​@@polishhussarmapping258the difference between having a capital and a tradition as a state/crown, and not.
@diegoragot655
@diegoragot655 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanodadamo6809 which one had and which one didn't??
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 Жыл бұрын
@@diegoragot655 Català had them and is still going strong. Poor Occitan though, despite having been a major language of poetry...
@japaneseapoist286
@japaneseapoist286 Жыл бұрын
Tocharian, Scytian and Armenian. The turkish invadors attacked three precious brothers, some are eliminated. We indo-european speakers never forget this.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 Жыл бұрын
dude as a Indo-European i don't give a fuck about any group I am not related too. speak for yourself. No we. I don't care. I am about the current me and my Germanic group. What happens to non Germanics doesn't concern me
@tanhukim9963
@tanhukim9963 Жыл бұрын
​@@noahtylerpritchett2682 Germen is not Indo-european. You are Germen language.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 Жыл бұрын
@@tanhukim9963 Genealogy of Germanic languages. Germanic Proto-Germanic Nordic Bronze age Corded Ware Bell-Beaker synthesis Yamnaya Proto-indo-European. Branches of Germanic. English (mine) Danish, Dutch, German, Swedish, Norwegian.
@noelxlk
@noelxlk 11 ай бұрын
​@@noahtylerpritchett2682wow, you're certainly fun to be around 😑
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 11 ай бұрын
@@noelxlk nationalistically not caring about other nations interests isn't meant to be fun. It's meant to be indifferent, apathetic and neutral.
@lenguyenxuonghoa
@lenguyenxuonghoa Жыл бұрын
Could you make videos about Japonic and other “Paleosiberian languages” ( Ainu and Nivkh )
@leonardo_fratila
@leonardo_fratila Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to see that a languege often thought of as ancient languege only died off about when the first polish state was founded (966 ad) ! Aslo, magnificent video!❤
@АндрейБогуславский-б9о
@АндрейБогуславский-б9о 3 ай бұрын
It seems that there was a Slavic state on the territory of Pomerania even earlier. The Polabian Slavs
@leonardo_fratila
@leonardo_fratila 3 ай бұрын
@@АндрейБогуславский-б9о yes, the actual poles were there much earlier but the state was made later
@АндрейБогуславский-б9о
@АндрейБогуславский-б9о 3 ай бұрын
@@leonardo_fratila Yes, there were also tribes: Slenzans, Mazovians, Mazurs, Vislans,
@AnsgarisIoannes
@AnsgarisIoannes 4 ай бұрын
Vaya regalo de cumpleaños. (En septiembre pasado cumplí 40). Había escuchado esta lengua antes. Para cuando desapareció esa lengua, mis ancestros muiscas ya habían llegado al Altiplano Cundiboyacense (Colombia).
@-vy7gm
@-vy7gm Жыл бұрын
Is not tochariam one of indo-european languages?
@drivers99
@drivers99 Жыл бұрын
It is
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz
@ChristopherTanne-se3pz 6 ай бұрын
Yes indoeuropean 😎
@z_1599
@z_1599 Жыл бұрын
Tocharian A, B, C Such creative names xD
@ElHeraldoHispano
@ElHeraldoHispano Жыл бұрын
They are also named after important Tocharian city-states: - A is also known as Turfanian - B is also known as Kuchean - C is also known as Kroränian (Although Tocharian C was never attested and we don't know if it actually existed. It is just an speculated language, which seems to have left some loanwords in certain Prakrit languages).
@Trakite
@Trakite Жыл бұрын
Friend, I have got idea for the next video! No one have ever made video about map history of Getae! Getae was a thracian group of tribes. They were one of the greatest warriors in the world and is sad that they are no famous and there is no video about them!
@leonardo_fratila
@leonardo_fratila Ай бұрын
Well the getae were dacians and the Dacians were getae. The ancient greeks gave them the name getea and the romans gave them the name Dacian.
@anakinskywalker2064
@anakinskywalker2064 3 ай бұрын
pobres tocarios :(
@SKITNICA95
@SKITNICA95 Жыл бұрын
Proto Tocharians are from central Siberia? I am more supportive towards theory of big migration from europe to central Asia.
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
They are from ANE population
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad 6 ай бұрын
​@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat No, you are confusing Tocharians and Tarim mummies
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 6 ай бұрын
@@Scythian_nomad Tocharians are indo European, Mummies are ANE
@pas1994ok
@pas1994ok 10 ай бұрын
One of the saddest language disappearances
@飛流直上三千尺哪個宅
@飛流直上三千尺哪個宅 Жыл бұрын
Oh no…You made a mistake! Inscriptions show that Kushans spoke an East Iranian language, not Tocharian B!!!
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
Tocharians actually Iranic people... originally Tarim mummies are Kuchean, Agnean and Arci people not Iranic
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad Жыл бұрын
​@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Tarim mummies is not IE
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Жыл бұрын
@@Scythian_nomad Tarim Mummies are ANE people
@JcDizon
@JcDizon Жыл бұрын
What caused the decline and death of the Tocharian family?
@cheriankalayil2362
@cheriankalayil2362 Жыл бұрын
Spreading of the Sino-Tibetans, Mongols and the Turks I think
@JcDizon
@JcDizon Жыл бұрын
@@cheriankalayil2362 Oh that makes sense. Seems that the Tocharians lived in present day Xinjiang which is now home to the Uighur (Turkic) and Han Chinese (Sino-Tibetan) and I heard that it used to be home to the Dzungars who were Mongolic.
@fanstargateiloveuniverse
@fanstargateiloveuniverse Жыл бұрын
Probably some new nations push them southwards. In that time the Indo-Iranian tribes and Samoyeds arrived from west. Maybe yenisei and turk tribes from the north also played a role in it, because I don"t believe that Turkic languages belong to any altaic language family. But the cause of the decline was the Turkic migrations, especially the Uygurs. Not because of sino-tibetians nor mongols.
@tanhukim9963
@tanhukim9963 Жыл бұрын
​@@fanstargateiloveuniverse It is the Chinese who caused the Tocharians to become extinct on a large scale. You can be sure of this. The Tang Dynasty entered the region here in 650 and killed many of them. It even advanced as far as Central Asia. In fact, the Turkification of Central Asia has always resulted from different ethnic races. Of course, those who stayed behind and converted to Islam have now become Turks.
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad Жыл бұрын
​@@fanstargateiloveuniverse Eastern Turkestan, the homeland of the Turks, Tarim mummies are the ancestors of the Turks, and the Tocharians were their neighbors
@andrefarfan4372
@andrefarfan4372 Жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Tkphdxjlb
@Tkphdxjlb 4 ай бұрын
Damn Turko-Mongol nomads, give me back the Tocharian Scythians.
@Crxyzen1
@Crxyzen1 2 ай бұрын
Damn Indo-European nomads, give back the Dravidians, Kelteminars, BMAC people, Botai, native Anatolians, Etruscans, Iberians and many more.
@kirillluzgin2858
@kirillluzgin2858 Жыл бұрын
Of the Tocharian languages, only A and B exist, the hypothesis of the existence of Tocharian C was discredited, it was apparently an Iranian language. The Tocharians who descended from the Afanasyevskaya culture and emigrated to the Tarim Basin have no relation to the Tocharians from Bactria who founded the Kushan Empire, these Tocharians were known as the Yuezhi, scientists believe that they were of Iranian origin
@auraledgereal
@auraledgereal 7 ай бұрын
Actually Original Yuezhis were most likely Tocharian. After they migrated to Bactria they were assimilated in to native Iranian culture of Bactrians & Scythians. Kushans used word "Buca" for Buddha. Like Tocharians used "Macar" for mother & "Pacar" for father. Yuezhi confederation most likely contained not only Tocharians also Wusuns & Scythians (Sakas) Anyway both Tocharians & Iranians belong to Indo European family.
@wirelessbluestone5983
@wirelessbluestone5983 Жыл бұрын
I thought the Kushans being Tocharians theory was discredited nowadays
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
It was a confederation of tribes, mainly Sakas but also including Tocharians, so I noted it with stripes
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Жыл бұрын
sakas were also partially turkic as ik@@CostasMelas
@king_halcyon
@king_halcyon Жыл бұрын
​@@CostasMelasstill overrepresented. The main bad thing of your channel
@x-error404alphaepicfellsan9
@x-error404alphaepicfellsan9 5 ай бұрын
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 no they weren't
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 5 ай бұрын
@@x-error404alphaepicfellsan9 proof? only turkic sources
@muhammedsener8241
@muhammedsener8241 4 ай бұрын
✌️
@emanueleprencipe5483
@emanueleprencipe5483 10 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ has been crucified and risen so you could repent and go to heaven
@naberkanka2489
@naberkanka2489 Жыл бұрын
This is Turkic language
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 Жыл бұрын
They are indo-europeans
@naberkanka2489
@naberkanka2489 Жыл бұрын
@@scarymonster5541 did u asked them?
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
@@naberkanka2489 I ask you the same question Oh wait you can't there aren't any time machines, *but* there is vocabulary from Tocharian A and B, which is similar to IE languages.
@naberkanka2489
@naberkanka2489 Жыл бұрын
@@Nastya_07 dude their name is literally tocharian similar to turk
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
@@naberkanka2489 And? Similar names don't mean the same thing, for example, the reconstructed endonym of the Para-Mongolic Xianbei (*Serbi) and the modern country of Serbia. Word for "mother" in Tocharian languages: Proto-Tocharian: *mācer Tocharian A: mācar Tocharian B: mācer The words seem to derive from PIE *méh₂tēr, which also gave us Mother in English and Madre in Spanish, and it has almost no similarity with Turkish "Anne" and Uzbek "Ona"
@yetkinbilgen3430
@yetkinbilgen3430 Жыл бұрын
As a Turk myself I see this video as absolute win
@martinomasolo8833
@martinomasolo8833 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean
@yetkinbilgen3430
@yetkinbilgen3430 Жыл бұрын
@@martinomasolo8833 why do you think their language died out ? Who replaced them actualy ?
@deidara8neji
@deidara8neji Жыл бұрын
​@@yetkinbilgen3430absolute scumbag. Disgrace to humanity, you only know how to destroy, never build.
@Scythian_nomad
@Scythian_nomad Жыл бұрын
​@@yetkinbilgen3430 Tarim mummies is turkic ancestors The Tocharians lived next to the Turks
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 Жыл бұрын
I really loves how the indo-europeans speakers aren't happy when indo-europeans languages went extinct by non indo-europeans But when the indo-europeans speakers make the non indo-europeans speakers went extinct they just happy and never complain about it.
@Thebestman-f1j
@Thebestman-f1j Жыл бұрын
Let's Go! Now we need Chadic languages.
@fidus868
@fidus868 Жыл бұрын
What happend around the year 0?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Yuezhi people (part of them were the Tocharians) moved southern and established the Kushan Empire
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