If you want to see anything like this in the future let me know! Thanks! Crisis: www.youtube.com/@CRISIS_COMICS
@lenoreyt2 жыл бұрын
I love your death note analysis videos so yes 100%
@calibzimmerman64052 жыл бұрын
hi
@LowellLucasJr.2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please make more videos like this! Heck, i'd love to see the following covered if you don't mind recommendations: * Who is the deadlier killer with a gun- Golgo 13 or Deadshot? * Would the Guyver control metal be unstoppable in the Dragon Ball Universe? * Unicron vs Galactus ( why not?) *Aptom vs Cell ( who has the better absorbsion Abilities?)
@lenoreyt2 жыл бұрын
You could do who is smarter, Ayanokoji or Light? Or maybe Ayanokoji or L?
@Prantikde2 жыл бұрын
Do you read manhwa or LN? If so, can you scale Nirvana Jin Mori from God Of High School or LN Sung Jin Woo from Solo Levelling?
@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere2 жыл бұрын
The difference between this and the Batman-Kira case is that the Joker isn't really doing anything to prevent L from figuring out his real identity. This is less of a "L vs Joker" and more L being curious about something. Learning his identity isn't really all that relevant to stopping him from doing crimes. Imagine L going "I finally know who Joker is", and then the Joker blows up a hospital anyway.
@hugomventura2 жыл бұрын
Only way it can be considered a loss or win is if the joker actually agree to the terms. L has to actually announce his intentions so that the joker does what he does. otherwise the joker will just play anything off because from an outsiders point of view it's just L being interested in the red hood.
@Paradox-es3bl2 жыл бұрын
Well, L has to figure out the identity AND catch/stop him. And he could only do that for 1/3 anyway. But unlike Batman, I don't think L would be like, "I know his identity but it doesn't matter." He'd be like, "I figured out 1/3. Execute that one." Which is still a loss, but 1 less Joker is a win for Gotham and all of DC's Earth, really. Sometimes even beyond Earth lol.
@diveblock20582 жыл бұрын
i mean joker would probably just straight up kill L (or torture him) if we are being honest like joker would find it entertaining that L is trying to find him but probably get bored and just blow him up (and by him i mean the city he is currently in)
@WhoIsStrongestCommunity2 жыл бұрын
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@koutaconnor94532 жыл бұрын
@@diveblock2058 It's really really hard to imagine that happening considering how cautious and anonymous L is. There is no insensitive for L to reveal himself in any way as it would not get him anywhere close to finding out the Joker's identity because L would most likely without much hesitation execute the Joker after achieving that. This match just doesn't make much sense to me. L does not need to get too close to the joker to find that out and therefore the Joker would have no real reason to gun for him.
@AshBlossomWorshiper2 жыл бұрын
The recent Gordon comic reminded me that Joker isn't just some crazy dude. He's ingenious and meticulous. All the insane things he does has a purpose, but the only person who truely knows that purpose is Joker.
@shastacat96322 жыл бұрын
joker doesnt even know the purpose
@nechocat12342 жыл бұрын
As always with comics that depends on the writers, in recent times he is mostly just a crazy dude with tons of power, the thing about joker is that he was never ment to challenge batman's mind henis there to challenge his morals, he is the chaos to batman's law. The one that is rightfully smart as batman is the riddler, when the writers don't make him into just a joke from the adam west era he is as smart or maybe smarter than batman, while batman is only able to defeat him thinking outside the box
@itzYonko2 жыл бұрын
@@nechocat1234 The Riddler sucks.
@MK_ULTRA4202 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the Joker's super sanity allows him to realize that the entire existence of his multiverse depends on him being the Joker. Without him and his crazy antics, the Batman series would go broke, so it doesn't matter how many lives he ruins when doing nothing ruins everything.
@Dorkeydaze2 жыл бұрын
@@nechocat1234 Example plz as someone with only experience with riddler from the AA game series
@wititorac2 жыл бұрын
Now, all that’s left is, “Could Kira end crime in Gotham”. Basically, could he kill all of Batmans rogues gallery before they catch on/kill him.
@Knightwolf19942 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a Dark Multiverse fan video where a version of Batman gets the Death Note and ultimately decides to start killing criminals with it.
@psychicsidekick41982 жыл бұрын
The Court of Owls, League of Assassins, Joker and Bane at minimum have a strong chance, considering the 4 groups/individuals have outsmarted Batman on multiple occasions. Most others have no hope. Certain rogues may not count as "human" for the purpose of being killed by the book, like Poison Ivy or Clayface, due to their altered biology. In those cases Kira may simply be shit-out-of-luck. But normals like Crane, Cobblepot and Nigma? Dead instantly.
@wititorac2 жыл бұрын
@@psychicsidekick4198 To be fair, I think Movie Light managed to orchestrate a death such that the person killed someone else? So it’s possible he could maybe get another person to kill Ivy for him if Ivy doesn’t count as human for the purposes of the death note.
@TheDeathOmen2 жыл бұрын
On top of what everyone else said, someone hiring Deathstroke to deal with him will have Kira’s ass handed to him on a silver platter
@otuskigaming67642 жыл бұрын
If you mean literally all, then no. Like yeah the Penguin and all the mobsters are easy, they have their names. But Joker? Or even the Court of Owls. It's nye-impossible
@clyax1132 жыл бұрын
L finding out Joker's identity means absolutely nothing. He would hear it announced and then do what Aaron Sanchez said and just blow up a hospital to prove it means nothing. That would be such a Joker thing to do. He'd also say something like "figuring out the punchline means nothing when you don't have *delivery*" before he blows up the maternal ward of a hospital.
@StarSteve68111 ай бұрын
Well when Batman threatened to tell joker his identity making him freak out and then he threw himself off a cliff rather then know the truth but other’s versions of the joker might not care
@clyax11311 ай бұрын
@@StarSteve681 True. I guess it does depend. Still, I think Joker making a "delivery" joke and then blowing up a maternity ward of a hospital would be an moment in this hypothetical battle.
@StarSteve6816 ай бұрын
@@clyax113well yeah he definitely would do that at some point
@Theallrounderofmarvel3 ай бұрын
@StarSteve681 I'm pretty sure this is the last laugh version of the joker not that one
@The_Dreaming_Hunter2 жыл бұрын
Batman once said about the joker’s identity “I knew who he was Alfred, from the day we met, he has a kid and wife still living, but his backstory doesn’t matter the man he is now is completely different from what he was”
@christopherrogers5322 жыл бұрын
AKA the Joker's original self is dead and no longer him.
@Randomguy09818 Жыл бұрын
That was a different timeline it’s not actually Alfred just so you know
@fjoltnyr2464 Жыл бұрын
@@Randomguy09818 no, it's Batman talking to Alfred, not about Alfred
@dxnixble Жыл бұрын
Fear God
@Mentelgen-1337 Жыл бұрын
so even if he figures it out joker will still blow up some hospital?
@TehJonnyBoi2 жыл бұрын
The "Could Batman solve the Kira case" video was always one of my favourite videos from your channel! Glad to see a "sequel" on the idea
@slipinslider2 жыл бұрын
Not any of the deleted ones?
@Resident4Island2 жыл бұрын
The problem with these videos Batman and Joker live in paranormal world with God's, Alien's, Demon etc. Let me explain Batman on being World Greatest Detective is a master of 127 martial art's being the best H2H combatant basically Brawn and Brain combined and Joker just like Batman has a genius level intelligence and has his own chaotic fighting style in other words their conflict is both action packed and heavy dilagoue between ideology's .That's why most people can collab with them and do crossover's and that's why someone like Johan, Kira or L will never crossover beacuse they are not that speacial.
@zeehero72802 жыл бұрын
@@Resident4Island Kira's main strength is being able to kill literally anyone with a soul if he has their face and name. However once his method of killing is known, it becomes much easier to defend against.
@darthparallax52072 ай бұрын
Batman would understand the rules of Light and L are high end Detective work game theory, and threats of death don't count if the game strategy dictates something else would happen if the other guy is smart. Batman demands Light to kill the Joker. If he doesn't do it, he's a bad person and a hypocrite. If he does do it, it proves he's Kira. Or Batman approves of L asking if he can put Light on the spot with this high pressure question. Making Light interact with the Joker would bring evidence that Light is Kira out faster. Light is more dangerous and evil than the Joker. And Batman is willing to gamble Joker's life to catch Kira. Kira gets the same kind of exceptional treatment Joker does to a level beyond the Joker gets. L and Batman put together easily take down Light with no win scenarios.
@TheInkTank2 жыл бұрын
Great sequel to your first Batman/ Death Note video. I like how you mentioned the three Jokers as part of the equation.
@hiroko_97792 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect to see you here either but, yo big fan also!
@itzYonko2 жыл бұрын
The ben 10 youtuber
@espresso3872 жыл бұрын
It's the 5yl people
@KuroTheDesigner2 жыл бұрын
Seeing you here is kinda funny for me, the two peeps that inspired my gamertag lol
@darthhorizon17352 жыл бұрын
Generator Rex vs Ben 10
@quibby86272 жыл бұрын
I think a more interesting question to answer in the future could be, “Could L Catch Batman?” And have the game be around L trying to solve Batman’s true identity, something I think he’d probably take interest in
@villekokko99432 жыл бұрын
If you look at the "Kira vs. Batman" video, you can infer the answer to this easily.
@ceilingsintheireyes62882 жыл бұрын
I feel like L would work out that it's Bruce in 3 seconds just with simple logic. Clearly someone who loves Gotham and has access to virtually unlimited funds and technology. bruce Wayne. Next.
@Jsipki2652 жыл бұрын
@@ceilingsintheireyes6288 he would need proof of said deduction which he wouldn’t get.
@mahoganydoughnut60822 жыл бұрын
Careful people who think Bruce Wayne is the only multi billionaire in Gotham are going to tell you it's obvious.
@TheOutlawed10002 жыл бұрын
Carefree drunken idiot Bruce Wayne? Batman? Ridiculous. Have you ever seen that rich boy lift? At most he’s privately funding Batman. Maybe a team of them. Now Lex Luthor? That’s your guy. Seriously though people only think it’s easy to figure out because there’re not in the world of the story. At most he’s a suspect.
@z-ro1641 Жыл бұрын
Riddler: Why not me? I am a better rival for L for a long list of reasons
@Jdove-fk4ii2 жыл бұрын
Having L execute joker I actually see as the ultimate loss for joker it isn't a big scary vigilante who stops joker to keep people safe it's just a childish detective who finds solving cases interesting
@TrixyTrixter2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Joker was terrified in one of the shows when the situation came up where he thought an average guy could kill him with a bomb. He wants a real flashy ending not some nobody that he himself has no interest in.
@tfordham13 Жыл бұрын
@@TrixyTrixter my favorite ep
@Mentelgen-1337 Жыл бұрын
this is just disrespect... makes me wish L is getting buried alive by being outsmarted because of his cockiness.
@andrewchopmas8834 Жыл бұрын
Joker could easily kill L to he honest
@johnpett195510 ай бұрын
It would be a nightmare for him.
@TheFuneralKing2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to note, though it might not be too important, Joker is probably aware of the fact he’s in a comic book. He’s referenced the reader a few times, referenced past crossovers nobody else remembers, and even turned the page of a comic he was in.
@GenZratatouille2 жыл бұрын
Batman outsmarted Anti Monitor who also Destroyed a place that viewed DC as Fiction .
@TypetwoAbsolute2 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, Joker being in a manga and it being read the opposite way would confuse him and cause him to slip up and get caught
@lukefloor2 жыл бұрын
that’s not 100% confirmed that’s just a theory i believe that it probably true for a few versions of the joker but not every joker i’ve seen the imaginary axis too
@TheFuneralKing2 жыл бұрын
@@TypetwoAbsolute he’s actually been in a manga before, though I’m not sure if that version of him was aware of the 4th wall
@TheFuneralKing2 жыл бұрын
@@lukefloor hence the “probably” Plus with the state of DC Comics last I checked anything you want is canon, or at least that’s what I still hear.
@michaelgarcia56802 жыл бұрын
Joker’s not exactly covering his tracks but he would probably want L to find him only to kidnap and torture him. EDIT: yikes looks like I started a war with the L fans lol
@grandcanyon-fu9zt2 жыл бұрын
I'd love Joker vs Johan Liebert would be interesting If L stops the outbreak of WW3 , then he's not a walk in the park.
@annoyingcat53282 жыл бұрын
Yeah he would want to but L isn't Batman so he wouldn't.
@michaelgarcia56802 жыл бұрын
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt oh god Joker and Johan together feels even more insane than Kratos and Asura in the same room
@itzYonko2 жыл бұрын
L would obviously know that. Do you think L is stupid lmao, Why do you think seth made this video in the first place? It's because he is a detective that almost rivals batman in intelligence.
@grandcanyon-fu9zt2 жыл бұрын
@@itzYonko Batman's IQ is 192 while kid L was 250 - 300
@WeebsUnite2 жыл бұрын
I think Joker would WANT L to catch him, but I also believe Joker would get bored with him quick (unlike Batman) and just straight up kill him off.
@zaz78332 жыл бұрын
pretty much
@GenUrobutcher2 жыл бұрын
No, lol. L isn't defense less. He would be the one to kill/arrest the joker. L isn't dumb enough to send him back to Arkham lol.
@GenUrobutcher2 жыл бұрын
@@asura3229 lmao you joker fanboys are so dumb. It's because of dumb writing joker could do this. Joker is a mere human. L has history of dealing with worse than joker like Beyond Birthday. L will take necessary precautions and he isn't dumb enough to send joker back to Arkham lol.
@Scornfull2 жыл бұрын
@@GenUrobutcher If it's the Joker then yeah L is fuckin defenseless against him
@goldenlotus30462 жыл бұрын
I don't think he'd kill him, that'd be too boring. Joker would break L's mind and shatter his soul. Joker, out of pure amusement and boredom, would go out of his way to prove to L that he is nothing, just like everyone else. That all his little detective games that he plays is all one massive joke. Then he'd leave him to rot within his own self-created madness while the Joker goes off to chase the next shinny car.
@omgjlmiub2 жыл бұрын
I assumed L’s win condition is more prove the Joker is guilty in the judicial system, not so much revealing his identity. He needed Light’s identity to prove he was a serial killer not strictly for the name. Same thing with BB, he wanted to prove BB’s guilt and arrest him, not specifically getting his name.
@tfordham13 Жыл бұрын
Yeah get joker tried as a sane man as he is and throw him in the chair
@Michael-sb8jf Жыл бұрын
@@tfordham13 good luck with that he's been in numerous max security prisons and finds a way out via by shenanigans or outside help
@tfordham13 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-sb8jfin maximum security in a mental asylum where there not meant to kill him plus joker has a reason to go after batman he doesn't have the same thinh towards L as L wouldn't care to go back after joker
@kiratherenegade15612 жыл бұрын
I'd love a dialogue between Joker & Light. I think the Joker would recognise his inner insanity near immediately.
@Jessidafennecfox2 жыл бұрын
I think Joker would kill Light in general
@maninhu9837 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he would hella laugh about it
@RealHajimeHinata Жыл бұрын
Yeah or Joker would probably get in his head and/or reduce him to tears just by sheer manipulation.
@tananatana4011 Жыл бұрын
Joker would just fuck with Light effortlessly. Joker, as wicked as he seems, is actually INCREDIBLY calculated and I'd argue, WAY MORE STABLE than Light, emotionally at least. Joker's ridiculously cunning and intelligent, you never quite know what he's about, meanwhile if not observed with a one sided eye like Light's father or his friends in the task force, Light's lies are quite obvious and are always pretty cheesy
@BrandonScott-mi5pz8 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO
@spinoirrex24332 жыл бұрын
Now could Batman catch the Joker is the real question here 🤔
@Micha-Hil2 жыл бұрын
he could, several times
@GokageBlack2 жыл бұрын
Only if Batman uses the Deathnote [insert maniacal Joker laugh]
@marcowhyte51942 жыл бұрын
He could if he worked with the IRS
@realme-tq4cq2 жыл бұрын
batman knows the jokers real name and knows where joker lives, watches over the jokers son and wifes house. Batman has known about jokers personal life for years. He just doesnt take action sadly
@newhybrid1012 жыл бұрын
@@realme-tq4cq Thats not Jokers current personal life but his OLD life Usually he doesnt know where Joker is. Joker has always been able to challenge Batmans intellect
@Agent-572 жыл бұрын
The fact is, even in the Killing Joke, Joker himself admits that his backstory might not be true. He likes it to be different every time. Some parts of it might be true but some are mixed up. The fact that after all these years even the readers don't know what his actual backstory is, it's kinda terrifying.
@cryamistellimek91842 жыл бұрын
Not terrifying, just annoying. They’ll make up whatever bullshit they want to push the story with joker that week.
@nechocat12342 жыл бұрын
@@cryamistellimek9184 yeah I feel you, joker worked best as a small scale villain not with over complicated plots to destroy gotham but being there to mess up specific people, before the modern age joker the tought of joker having a backstory wasn't even important he either was a mafioso with clown makeup or a crazy dude doing petty crimes being batman's archnemesis is modern era stuff, when the righters made joker and batman needing each other existance is sickening it implies that batman is not doing super hero stuff to fix the city and is just doing it as a petty game with joker
@ЖамекЖамек-н6ч2 жыл бұрын
@@cryamistellimek9184 So you can shit any idea, no matter how good it is, just call it nonsense and that's it, it's not an argument
@theapexsurvivor95382 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's kinda silly treating this specific origin as canon and then wondering why no one figured it out. It's easy because you're falling into the trap of taking the Joker on his word. In all likelihood he didn't even have "one bad day", he just had a degenerative neurological disorder that lead him to go mad over time, then he retroactively applied a twisted philosophy to justify his behaviour until he was so far gone that he didn't need it, by which point he was already obsessed with demonstrating it. Even if he was confident in what his backstory is, he's not a reliable narrator, especially after how often he's gone to Arkham Asylum (whose founder electrocuted his first patient during shock therapy, was home to Harley Quinn, Scarecrow, and the second Black Mask during their prior careers in psychology, and is notorious for having doctors experiment on the patients).
@chance67542 жыл бұрын
@@cryamistellimek9184 and that's exactly why it's great. The joker not having a true origin means the possibilities of stories that can be told with him are endless.
@Jp419992 жыл бұрын
As expected back to back to back quality content from Seth.
@steadyrow2 жыл бұрын
This is what makes L so much fun. He's a really well done trope character so he transitions well.
@lunarwhisperinc.15912 жыл бұрын
I love when you make videos like this, they're genuinely interesting and in-depth. I hope you'll keep posting videos like this
@Starwarsdude82219912 жыл бұрын
The sequel you never knew you wanted
@mushroomman73372 жыл бұрын
Yes we're back with deathnote omg. Deathnote is such a good show and this is like the best possible follow up to your "could batman catch kira" and thank you so much
@jessetheanimenerd33042 жыл бұрын
*Death Note
@GChezlynD2 жыл бұрын
Capturing The Joker is not the problem. On the other hand, outsmarting The Joker is the real issue. Genius Intellect Vs. Super Insanity
@HappyBeezerStudiosАй бұрын
Just put an add in the newspaper "Looking for insane clown with murderous tendencies and interest in a good laugh" Next day the Joker stands at the door.
@blackhand4412 жыл бұрын
L : "I am Justice" Joker : "Oh thank God, I thought you were the IRS"
@HappyBeezerStudiosАй бұрын
Hey, even the Joker pays his taxes.
@jossuearias3509 Жыл бұрын
Stopping the Joker case is less about figuring out his identity. And more about finding out which warehouse he's using as a base. And capturing him before he can cause more terror
@coletrain_one2 жыл бұрын
Catch Joker? Yes maybe but, stopping him is a completely different debate especially considering Batman has stated the only person who knows what Joker is doing is the Joker and what makes him dangerous is just how unpredictable he is especially considering just how insane he is. He also famously says he’s a man without a plan but he is constantly “planning” sometimes ahead of Batman due to his unpredictability, he’s insane but smart and knows what he’s doing , only he knows. L is smart but due to Jokers sheer insanity I’d say he’d get caught but break out whenever he wants or just bully L his whole career.
@grandcanyon-fu9zt2 жыл бұрын
If the story is in Death Note, then Joker loses.
@justsomebody54502 жыл бұрын
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt no joker wins
@justsomebody54502 жыл бұрын
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt also there's no way joker would exist in the death note universe so this like a combined universe
@coletrain_one2 жыл бұрын
@@grandcanyon-fu9ztJoker beats L 9/10 times and it’s bullying, again only Joker knows what he’s doing it doesn’t matter how far ahead L thinks he is, Joker is gonna be ahead. He’s insane but a very methodical thinker don’t underestimate his intelligence just cause he’s insane.
@coletrain_one2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomebody5450 agreed even if he did I feel like they’d laugh at him or underestimate him at first which would give Joker the automatic win. As soon as you let your guard down against Joker your fucked, superman did it and injustice happened lmao.
@topcat592 жыл бұрын
So L practically has a chance on beating the joker if he finds out his original identity and arrest him before he becomes insane but if he fails the game is already over and joker would instantly win. That’s cool.😺
@bulbafett50012 жыл бұрын
Batman knows Joker's real identity and has been keeping his ex wife and son in witness protection in Alaska. TOok him a week to find it out (Also Bruce Told the jOker who HE WAS too at that time). I'm pretty sure L could find the same information just as fast if not faster given he doesn't spend most of his nights jumping off of rooftops.
@erichaskins19422 жыл бұрын
This was never said in the video...L would still be able to find out the joker's identity as long as he gets to working before the work files are erased. the files weren't erased as soon as the joker fell, the files still existed at the point of the joker falling it's simply only a matter of time before the files do happen to get erased.
@death-nm7hr2 жыл бұрын
@@erichaskins1942 Even people who are smarter than L couldn't figure out who joker is though
@GenZratatouille2 жыл бұрын
@@bulbafett5001 Joker outsmarts Gods and aliens , so basically it won't matter
@Paradox-es3bl2 жыл бұрын
Right, but that's after Joker really got going. Basically, if L got interested in Joker during the Clown Prince Of Crime's first year, L could probably win. (Assuming the files existed for about a year. We aren't told exactly when they're deleted, so let's just say a year, because the government/EPA move slow irl) After that? Pretty much instant loss. Also, he can only figure out 1/3 Joker's identities. But assuming Red Hood/Killing Joke Joker is the 1st Joker (which I don't think he is but let's pretend for a second), then L can win in Year 1 and the other 2 Jokers possibly never exist. However, if I remember right, there's basically classic-Silver Age Joker, from the 60s and stuff, who is canonically the 1st Joker. Pretty sure Killing Joke Joker is then the 2nd. Because I think he's from the more modern era. Not even sure which is the 3rd? I'm gonna guess the one who cut his face off? Seems different enough from KJ Joker to be a 3rd lol. But who knows? They're all crazy.
@pigherder26602 жыл бұрын
I love when seth has to pay bills and showers us with vids
@thethreekings912011 ай бұрын
Had no idea that there was three different canonical versions of the Joker. This guy just keeps getting stranger by the day, I swear.
@HappyBeezerStudiosАй бұрын
The clown, the criminal, and the comedian.
@Hazaroth2 жыл бұрын
Can the FBI catch SethTheProgrammer?
@fullytapped_002 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Oberasuspalace2 жыл бұрын
😂
@dynias72822 жыл бұрын
Why would they?
@Hazaroth Жыл бұрын
@@dynias7282 You have a lot to catch up on
@VNfan-Avesta Жыл бұрын
As a FBI agent he is still on the lose.
@darkseidomega25852 жыл бұрын
I'm sure L can catch him but that's when Joker game starts , if L commits the error of restrain him like he did with Kira and Misa he's pretty much done. L always looked superior to Kira until he did something unpredictable like losing his memories at purpose, that's L weakness and one of Joker best feats, being unpredictable.
@grandcanyon-fu9zt2 жыл бұрын
L stopped ww3 at 8 years old
@justsomebody54502 жыл бұрын
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt joker is as smart as batman and outsmarted the entire justice league so no
@grandcanyon-fu9zt2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomebody5450 if both were on neutral grounds, L could definitely catch him.
@shastacat96322 жыл бұрын
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt its not about catching him though, its about winning
@Bigpup-j8z2 жыл бұрын
@@shastacat9632 It's true, it is about winning. In the end whatever happens the Joker basically wins, he wants to be caught meaning he would win in the end no matter what L does.
@iBlueHood2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea a young Batman attempts to stop the red hood but is killed and the reveal of Billionaire Bruce Wayne being a vigilante and being killed by another costumed foe / gang Interests L enough to become involved but he’s too late to stop Red hood before becoming the Joker. Great vid!
@kiratherenegade15612 жыл бұрын
No. The Joker's greatest asset isn't his intelligence, it's his judge of character. He sees right through every single person immediately. Makes him so much more dangerous. Keep in mind - L's greatest strength is his powers of deduction. You can't deduce much from the Joker - he's truly bananas.
@tfordham13 Жыл бұрын
No jokers more truely sane he knows he isnt real most of the time
@Menace.2.2 жыл бұрын
Best anime youtuber for me the most underrated channel with shonen showdown i love your videos man
@audioprowess92082 жыл бұрын
Riddler: “Hey L, Riddle me th…” L: “Oh don’t worry we already had all the bombs you planted around the city defused”
@gra92 жыл бұрын
The deathnote and Batman crossovers are your best videos imo
@AngelNearDestruction2 жыл бұрын
The Joker's identity doesn't matter because he presumably doesn't have anything to do with his former life, he is a new insane identity.
@chaoticdetectivepeach2 жыл бұрын
Also he said at the beginning that nobody ever found Jokers real identity but Batman did find his identity, he just didn't tell anyone about it
@ThefifthBishopofGord2 жыл бұрын
For the sake of the rules is matters but it really doesn’t make sense when it comes down to Joker’s character
@sss_73992 жыл бұрын
@@ThefifthBishopofGord your wrong about that the joker is way too smart for L but at the end he just wants to have fun if L announces these rules it more than likely joker will accept and play by them unless he wants to torture L by killing someone close to him in order to make him stronger
@ThefifthBishopofGord2 жыл бұрын
@@sss_7399 Yeah, I honestly barely know anything about either characters and that does seem like something the Joker from what I know. Like I have literally not read or seen a single panel of death note before this video but I know a slight bit more since I have actually a seen panels with the joker in them
@kmaximusconnor36652 жыл бұрын
I mean what would revealing his identity really do like “the joker is John Doe now we can send people out to go catch him” like everyone’s been trying to catch him regardless revealing his true identity doesn’t change the goal or approach at all and doesn’t even really provide any useful info.
@trevorwilliams73842 жыл бұрын
Man Seth's really bangin' out the content this week, keep up the good work bro
@Paravoid2 жыл бұрын
I literally just rewatched the Batman V Light video yesterday, this upload is perfect timing
@Bluesonofman2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in the Harley Quin show: Joker becomes a step dad and mayor
@NickDoraRaw2 жыл бұрын
L is skilled at analyzing calculated strategy, whereas the Joker is pure unpredictable chaos. When someone’s moves aren’t traceable, they become almost impossible to beat.
@Dragoonsoul78782 жыл бұрын
He isn't pure unpredictable chaos otherwise at times he would start trying to aid the world. Chaos swings all ways.
@tonyravioli19822 жыл бұрын
@@Dragoonsoul7878 You could very well argue that his chaos could help the world. It really depends on how you look at it.
@remrem-gx3ml Жыл бұрын
the joker isnt just pure chaos though. he does do things with a purpose. he wants to make the world laugh like he does. he wants to teach people lessons in despair and madness. that life is chaos and a giant joke of suffering and tragedy. you might not be able to predict his moves easily but baiting a trap would be easy.
@davidogundipe8082 жыл бұрын
You should a third video about how L and Batman would outsmart each other if placed in the same universe.
@Based40452 жыл бұрын
Actually no,No would be a child's play for Batman..so is Johan.. Bruce is just built different and the intellect feats are not even comparable..
@tananatana40112 жыл бұрын
What exactly are they trying to do? If this is L versus Batman in who can figure out each other's identity, L stomps 10/10 If it's who can catch each other first, Batman stomps 10/10
@christopherrogers5322 жыл бұрын
It'd likely be some kind of tie where they work together or ignore each other due to having the same goals of stopping crime.
@jahviertemple69622 жыл бұрын
Imagine how dangerous L would be if he was trained by Batman instead lol
@Skyler32532 ай бұрын
Very dangerous, L is already an amazing detective considering how he stopped World War 3 from happening at the age of 8. So if Batman trained him, L will probably have no such weaknesses or get an unfair disadvantage at all and would catch BB or Kira already. Batman would be a key to helping L to bring out his fullest potential as a detective.
@Rhyniiks Жыл бұрын
3:46 He HAS been identified, Batman has always known the Joker's identity. This has been revealed in a canon story.
@shsbebzbsbsbssb2 жыл бұрын
can L catch you though?
@poweroffriendship2.02 жыл бұрын
If Light does exists in the DC Universe, then The Riddler has finally found a worthy opponent, since both of them are narcissistic geniuses who is obsessed with finding out their identities through names.
@miketps24512 жыл бұрын
these kinds of videos are so interesting and relaxing to watch thanks Seth
@StormXXII2 жыл бұрын
seth been killing it lately
@zaz78332 жыл бұрын
ikr?
@Hazaroth2 жыл бұрын
Killing people's mental health
@Povertedtentially2 жыл бұрын
You ARE the Joker
@origins1832 жыл бұрын
Banger video. This style is some of y’all’s best work.
@l.o.l70492 жыл бұрын
The real challenge isn't catching Joker (or any of batman's villains) it's keeping them contained 😶
@potterpal52 жыл бұрын
Could Mystery Inc. solve the Kira case?
@JumpyKaput2 жыл бұрын
Jinkies
@MichaelAChristian12 жыл бұрын
No.
@krankkid73942 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelAChristian1 you must be forgetting about ultra instinct shaggy and god of destruction scooby doo. Two gods definitely sweep Kira
@MichaelAChristian12 жыл бұрын
@@krankkid7394 Yeah super shaggy could figure it out.
@Ironcage252 жыл бұрын
Maby they wil cause the kira case or get deathnote first
@siresorb14192 жыл бұрын
Yes. Next question. (The joker never really tries to hide his trail.
@yoavbenclaudia30732 жыл бұрын
I just keep rewatching Death Note. It’s short enough to binge over and over, like Invincible, and it’s just so good. While people complain about the second arc, and it does indeed have issues, it is still great (especially the soundtrack, if you listen to the anime while gaming like I do). So I love to see any videos like this that goes into a more realistic outcome of certain moments in the ani-manga, and videos that see if L could discover other villains or real criminals and vise versa if other villains or heroes could discover and arrest/kill Light or kill L.
@Chessbox092 жыл бұрын
I just watched Death Note for the first time, it’s just so gripping. I’m watching it again just after finishing it, something I’ve never done before.
@rustyshackelford35902 жыл бұрын
Joker is basically a villain with plot armor because everyone loves him so much
@daltsu34982 жыл бұрын
Making the victory condition arresting the joker, is weighing this heavily in lights favor. The joker regularly escapes from the police and allows himself to be caught very consistently.
@docomega78622 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the only win condition would be to arrest him, sentence him to death and actually carrying out the sentence. That is of course if L doesn't care about proving the joker's ideology by killing him and doesn't want to rehabilitate him like batman
@tananatana40112 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the police in DC is so embarrassingly incompetent lol. Joker usually just turns himself in and pleads for insanity despite that making no sense. If L caught Joker in his early days, he would've executed him right there and then
@Kashlikaro Жыл бұрын
L would whip Gotham's law enforcement into shape with terrifying efficiency, assuming he didn't just pull the national agencies into his game first. There wouldn't be any 'incompetent official somehow lets the Joker out' for the Joker to abuse, L would seal the holes in his net first, before casting it. Likely through illegal means, depending on how much he wants to win the game.
@Alistair_McCullom2 жыл бұрын
L can figure out jokers plan and maybe even how to stop him but actually having the capability to do it is something else entirely
@yumiigrape2 жыл бұрын
Now we need a Joker vs Kira! That would be really fun to see play out
@Jessidafennecfox2 жыл бұрын
And than Batman and L vs Joker and Kira.
@HeroineMotherOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Light wins so easily💀
@Jsipki2652 жыл бұрын
@@HeroineMotherOfficial what? How tf would light ever figure out joker identity? He would need to follow joker to his beginning to ever find it which isn’t likely.
@quasar97452 жыл бұрын
@@HeroineMotherOfficial nah not even close, there is just no possible way light could ever find out joker's name
@HeroineMotherOfficial2 жыл бұрын
@@Jsipki265 misa has the shinigami eyes tho
@kodigibson83762 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I just rewatched batman vs kira last night. We need more death note content seth!
@1starfalco1 Жыл бұрын
I love these death note "what if" stories keep up the good work
@datboimazz2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂This man Seth disappears for a month and comes back to drop straight bangers
@Vader2552 жыл бұрын
Seth is really on a roll
@hyrulezomby68282 жыл бұрын
Batman actually does know Joker’s identity. He speaks to Alfred in one comic that he knew who the Joker was a week after meeting him and the only reason he doesn’t reveal it is because he is keeping Joker’s family(his wife and son who both lived), in hiding so neither the Joker or others would be able to find them.
@Scornfull2 жыл бұрын
3 years later and your mic went from a modern mic to a mic you'd get bundled with an OG Xbox 360
@doodoo55942 жыл бұрын
idky but the end of this video just reminded me of batman endgame when the joker had known the location of the bat cave for years and just let bruce wonder for all that time if he'd ever found out, right up until he swam into the cave with a pink backpack, took a shotgun blast to the face, and then cut off alfred's hand
@JoniEscar_072 жыл бұрын
I still don't believe how people forget how for many many years Joker has managed to outsmart Batman again and again
@Harmtronic2 жыл бұрын
Could L catch Seth?
@akagishigeru12 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@leminer4049 Жыл бұрын
No, but Seth is always catching Ls
@John-o2g2x6 ай бұрын
@@leminer4049hater
@miguelangelus9592 жыл бұрын
That plot point about L having to not send a helicopter after Joker when he jumped into the river, like... why would L even be interested in this RANDOM ASS robery in the first place? I'd guess it would be just the police trying to catch the Joker, causing him to jump into the river
@TheCreepypro Жыл бұрын
this was an awesome video and hope we get more like it
@TheSurrealist.2 жыл бұрын
The only advantage L has up on Batman is that if L gets a hold of Joker he would have no qualms about killing him. If he deduced that Joker is too big a threat to keep alive, which I’m sure L would figure out, he’d have him killed immediately.
@AdvancedGamer- Жыл бұрын
He would still want to know his identity His pride is too much
@iamLI3 Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedGamer- but why is there pride in revealing a madman's former identity?....
@AdvancedGamer- Жыл бұрын
@@iamLI3 Kira js proof
@iamLI3 Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedGamer- but L doesn't think kira is a madman
@randallsavage26582 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if the Death Note still worked if the pages were laminated. Light could have used an erasable sharpie and have an unlimited use Death Note 📝
@clyax1132 жыл бұрын
This fight is more of a "why bother" scenario. Either give L the ability to go back in time to when Joker was less mysterious and catch him in the act of a crime, or face the force of inevitable entropy. The last video was much more of a strategy video while this is more of a thought experiment of combining two very different characters.
@tfordham13 Жыл бұрын
And?
@dantu53777 ай бұрын
Joker doesn’t care about getting caught. His plot armor allows him to escape prison
@CAT-ve1tm2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Kira vs Joker video in the future.
@goroakechi85772 жыл бұрын
The crazy part to take into account is that Joker is an insanely smart character.
@Leviathan10002 жыл бұрын
Batman taking Care of Kira and Ask L to take Care of Joker. I love it!
@muhammadeyssa236482 жыл бұрын
Batman works alone
@jordanfriederichs86982 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadeyssa23648 Robin, Nightwing, Red Hood, Batgirl, Alfred, the list goes on
@muhammadeyssa236482 жыл бұрын
@@jordanfriederichs8698 Don’t know why you added Batgirl. Batman doesn’t work with women 🍽☕️
@jordanfriederichs86982 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadeyssa23648 Lol he has many times before wym
@Marc-rw3dd2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadeyssa23648 maybe in your headcanon he doesn't. Hate to break it to you but batman isn't an incel like you.
@a_angry_bunny2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to supernatural themes, something which fits the Death Note Universe, I think that the Batman that Laughs vs L would also be a valid matchup.
@Lunk872 жыл бұрын
Skipped to the end just to hear you say idk. I'm dead 💀
@justjonin77002 жыл бұрын
another awesome video good job seth and crisis
@beirirangu2 жыл бұрын
I love the "theory" that The Joker is aware of the 4th wall... in that he's pretty much the ONLY being in the DC universe that's aware of it... for example: the lasurus pit always turns the user insane, as if all of their mental processes have left them... but when Joker uses it... he becomes a normal person... So his motivation can't be anything logical or sensible to anyone in that universe, because his entire purpose is to make a thrilling storyline and entice the audience... us... insanity incarnate... if he wasn't correct
@diefty942 жыл бұрын
Easily. Batman has caught him 100 times.The hard part is not catching him, it's keeping him in the revolving door that is Arkham.
@Mr_Edward_Nigma2 жыл бұрын
well it is explained that joker doesn't fully try and him sometimes WANTING batman to catch him, plus considering that godlike entities can't even find out who the joker truly is its going to be one hell of a challenge. plus joker himself admits not even he knows his past and if he is going to have multiple he might as well choose what backstory he believes.
@diefty942 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Edward_Nigma that keeps changing depending on the writter, for example in 3 Jokers It is explained that Batman always knew the who the Joker was. In most versions he is just a regular insane criminal, nothing special compared to Light Yagami who had top level intelligence and supernatural help from his Note, Misa and the Shinigami. The Joker is not a challengr to Batman as a detective, he never was, he is a challenge to his morals. It's not about wether Batman Will catch Joker, it's what Will he do after he gets him, kill him and break his n1 rule or follow the law. That was what Killing Joke was all about. Joker knew that he would get caught easily so his plan was to prove thqt good men like Batman and Gordon could turn bad like him.
@CausticSalsa2 жыл бұрын
This is great! It's easy to forget how ridiculously intelligent the Joker is.
@Z_Belphemon2 жыл бұрын
He could catch the joker, but I think he may have caught you first. Which is unlucky, I mean despite all the allegations I will still have you in a place in my memories great content, great narrating.
@user-dm4xe4xf2n2 жыл бұрын
This Seth comeback going crazy
@ethanhutley1204 Жыл бұрын
Joker is alot smarter then people think
@Chessbox092 жыл бұрын
The Jokers' strength is his unpredictability. Which is interesting since L seems to revel in asymmetrical warfare. The main issue is that the L has morals and the Joker doesn't, which will make life difficult for L.
@GenesisSMH2 жыл бұрын
L's Morals are very questionable. these cases are higher on his value system than basic morals.
@AndrewCARNBORN2 жыл бұрын
I feel like maybe L vs Riddler would be better suited
@arielcolonart2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, i love your superhero videos! I hope you make more.
@kingpinavatar2 жыл бұрын
I love crisis. I had no clue he was your editor
@Jun-do6kn2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that it all depends on when "L" is interested in the Joker's case. Although I think Joker could find "L"'s location, since he knows about the league of assassins and the court of owls, ancient secret societies that even batman has had trouble proving their existence or he might find it because he is traveling and haunting random cities, since he doesn't have a batman that has him in one place. Speaking of the court of owls, do you think "L" could find each of its members?
@Jun-do6kn2 жыл бұрын
(Sorry, if any part is badly written, English is not my first language)
@ninjagirl2262 жыл бұрын
The better question is could L keep Joker in jail…
@Lucifer-v5v2 жыл бұрын
What if Kira called Saul Goodman?
@ivanthehighman1772 жыл бұрын
Its over then.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec2 жыл бұрын
Gg to the joker.
@rusty79842 жыл бұрын
He would reduce his death sentence to 3 months of community service
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec2 жыл бұрын
@@rusty7984 Or using death note under supervision.
@KB-zq9ny2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I bet you could write great mystery series. I would have never thought of some of that!
@heinousangel2 жыл бұрын
Was literally binging ur death note videos and u upload this shit today god am I so happy
@AzraelThanatos2 жыл бұрын
As one other major thing with regard to this is that a lot of it also seems to point towards Joker still being as Gotham focused as he is...with L replacing the Batman, that, probably, also unchains Joker there and while Joker has struck elsewhere, if he's viewing L as a rival, things are going to get extremely nasty for the entire world. Kira is a killer, but I'm pretty sure the "Clown Prince of Crime" could cause a whole lot more death and destruction on horrific scales, and with the world as his stage, well, there isn't a reason to leave more intact enough for later "fun" in messing with his opponent. A lot like how a lot of his capers outside of the city end up being nastier. He's also done things like stolen nuclear weapons a few times, and mass gas attacks and more...and he has zero compunction about using them. And if there are other villains in the world, he's also frighteningly capable of getting them together and getting them to do things which L, well, isn't as capable of. Something like gassing the UN to distract from a raid in Interpol HQ for finding L's identity if he wanted it... Of course, there's the entire mess that with everything about Joker, it's been rather consistent that, with Batman, he does not want to know his identity, knowing that would ruin the game...and on top of that, with Joker you also have the thing that 99% of the time, he's portrayed as having almost nothing to do with his prior identity as it no longer matters for him. And that's if you don't end up with a Return of the Joker scenario where things get even worse...or the virus Joker version. A big chunk of the thing between Kira and L is that Kira had his own principles that didn't devolve into mass slaughter
@EDhogg252 жыл бұрын
Could SeththeGroomer catch more L's - Real Life (Yes)
@pegeta2 жыл бұрын
Joker is easy to catch, he literally wants it.
@bondedcastaway30852 жыл бұрын
Its not about catching Joker, its about keeping him locked up
@xarenanotmyrealname413410 ай бұрын
Hmm... I don't really think L would at first think Red hood is interesting enough to investigate.