Counter Strike will never see Sweden at the top again.

[@robindahlman7693]

I've been here 20+ years and you're only talking about the last 10 years? Have you forgotten that the CPL ever existed before the majors? Sweden won most of them with Heaton as the star player.

[@Martin_likes_beer]

ye my thoughts exactly! SK with HeatoN and Potti.. I remember skipping class to sit in the schools computer room following matches live in some big tournaments they played in! 😁 awesome times

[@babyfaec]

Swedes pretty much dominated the Counter-Strike scene since 1.6 and up until Fnatics downfall in 2016 to FalleN and SK and later Astralis, which many consider the greatest team of all time.

[@BANDERAAAAAA]

agree , young players just don't have respect for old mans ))

[@kristofferhellstrom]

I was a project manager for CPL in Sweden in the early days :P

[@BullBarnet]

They owned the CS scene. I remember being a kid watching the tournaments on the tv. Good times.

[@Martin_likes_beer]

man I'm getting old.. I played CS pre 1.6... I remember the awesome frag-movies with HeatoN, SpawN etc.. and when SK had the all Swedish roster with HeatoN, Potti.. dont remember the rest.. the good old times 😄

[@Whiterioot]

Same here brother. Started with 1.4. Fisker was a part of that roster too so we got 3/5. Even got to meet Heaton a couple of times at IO in Stockholm! As you said, it sure was the good old times :D

[@CoolDrifty]

this is why i like the cs community, because at 23 i can still feel like a young player

[@sskuk1095]

The fact that KRIMZ is still around an playing top tier CS after a more than 10 year carreer is mind blowing to me!

[@ivolkan6861]

Swedish derby in 2014-2016 was the pinnacle of csgo

[@n3bu1a]

It was one of the great eras! Remember when everyone hated fnatic because they won everything.

[@S.V.M-MCMXCIX]

@@n3bu1ai loved fnatic, indeed pinnacle fnatic - nip

[@MrPek-fe9fp]

​@@n3bu1a I hated JW and flusha. Thats it. Olof always been my top3 favorite. He can still be a pro, im sure.

[@borjeman]

Sweden owned CS 1.0-1.6 There was a stat that showed the countries of the winning teams across all major tournaments. Out of all potential 485 medals at 1.6 majors, sweden won 157, out of which 52 where gold medals. Second place in medals is USA with 53 total.. Poland had 50 medals, but since they had the NEO, Taz, kuben, loord stack they won 30 golds. Sweden where close to 1.6 what South Korea was to brood war.

[@alexhjelm]

Sweden has maintained a leading position in cs esports since 2001. However, there's been a noticeable shift as the newer generation in Sweden has begun to engage with different games. This change is why fewer young people are playing Counter-Strike (CS) in the country now. We were even more dominating in CS 1.5 and CS 1.6 then CSGO/CS2.

[@Eidolon5150]

Not even sweden, almost every top 10 team is not from a single country. Back in 2013-2019 the best teams were from one country or region like CIS. International teams were the outliers, now it’s the international teams being normal and one country/region teams being the outlier.

[@adrianrichardson5257]

As launders would say. Racism has lost

[@HeltForfra]

The danes also fell off lmao, it must be a Kalmar Union thing :(

[@n3bu1a]

They still hold respected positions across a number of highly ranked teams though. Swedes are no where to be seen apart from Brollan.

[@HeltForfra]

@@n3bu1a true, but danish up n comers seem to get lost in the system too often (i.e astralis' attempts) so I hope something changes otherwise the future looks a bit bleak

[@usemorebrainplz-is7gy]

Except NiP and Fnatic there were no more established Swedish teams at the time - The young talents had no place to go except waiting for a spot in NiP or Fnatic (Thats why they had such a huge player rotation, Maikelele, pyth, draken, dennis, golden, lekr0, twist, ztr, LNZ, nawwk etc etc. And everyone joining the old squad that already had lost the drive. If there was more organisations the young talents could have joined a new team and actually be a 5 stack of young players (As it was in 1.6) but now they had to fight for the spot with 3/4 players that already were basically done with CS (NiP with f0rest, gt, friberg and Fnatic with JW, Flusha, Krimz, Pronax etc). Today its better with academy teams, but its still the same issue except international teams take the talent players from these academy teams which obvously breaks the whole team dynamic and you need to reset. And now you had for example Johny Speeds that actually were a good Swedish team but without sponsors they lost players who went to international rosters for payment. Not enough money in Swedish organisations to keep players long enough, its end of an era but same with all countries that have enough players speaking English

[@n3bu1a]

Great addition!

[@Jane-qh2yd]

Sweden is a fairly miniscule country with only 9 million people and a declining young population. I makes absolute sense as to why they would struggle to produce new talent while having to rely on older players. I honestly think that the fall off of Brazilian Counter Strike is far more puzzling, as I have no idea how a nation that had an entire era plus an endless roster of promising talent managed to become the most disappointing CS nation by a mile

[@Chavanun555]

Bro u forgot China and India? They suck ar cs. Mongolia is even smaller than china yet with only that 1 team they went pretty far😅😅😅

[@juanme555]

That's ridiculous, by your logic China India and Indonesia should have teams that had massive eras. Denmark has an even smaller population than Sweden and they owned csgo. you have no idea alright

[@Chavanun555]

@@juanme555 exactly lol china sucks at cs

[@superlaw66]

Population has nothing to do with it

[@Eidolon5150]

It’s more the interest in the game, there is almost no Asian talent in CS and North America is essentially dead because they can’t compete.

[@Jonsson474]

The simple reason is that Swedish kids don’t care much about CS anymore. Since there is little interest, the commercial teams have abandoned the Swedish market moving to where it’s more lucrative and the talented new Swedish players don’t get a shot in the best teams anymore. This in turn makes even less kids interested in competitive CS, turning the Swedish player regrowth into a downward spiral.

[@mappim]

People from sweden just dont care about cs anymore. Its almost never played at lans around the Stockholm area atleast. Its a dated game and most of us dont care about cs 2 tbh.

[@h4jk3rn]

I remember that back in 1.6 there used to be a team that almost acted like a youth/young talent team for those up and coming Swedish players that would eventually become big names and the reason why these guys could not join big orgs such as SK, NiP or Fnatic was simply because they already had stacked superteams, but that's where the org called Begrip Gaming sort of comes in, as a Swedish team that most young and talented Swedish players could go and play and develop their skills, some notable players that came from this path which then lead them to become superstars and legends in 1.6 or CS GO or even both were zet, Legenden, dsn, cArn, GoodFella, RobbaN, f0rest, Tentpole, face, Get_RiGhT, MODDII, FYRR74, pronax, Xizt, Delpan and Maikelele, there where some more very good players that have had a foot in Bergip Gaming before they got the chance to play for the real big Swedish teams. Begrip Gaming still excist today, but they're efforts and impact are not as great these days, not nearly at the same level as it was during 1.6, hopefully they might get a new chance now with their CS2 teams.

[@bearlogg7974]

Vi trillade av 🗣️🔥

[@hellbergsucks]

vi trillad :(

[@AstroSully]

2015 Fnatic was something to behold man

[@notKarb]

Great video, the production is miles above your sub count! Also shox is the goat :>

[@philipamreus8862]

This video would have made more sense 3-4 years ago. Swedish cs development looks pretty bright at the moment, with initiatives being taken by the old guard like potti, who recently formed the national league, with emphasis on corporate-bcked teams like traditional sport, has proven to be successfull in shaping new talent. Sweden will bounce back, just a question of when.

[@n3bu1a]

I hope they continue to come back too! But with NIP missing the major, I am not sure if 2025 is the year it will happen...

[@philipamreus8862]

@n3bu1a Nip will certainly not be the core of swedish success. It has the dumbest management of any team, even worse than EG.

[@Hjallapenos]

Both Nawwk (Apeks) and Isak (Gamer Legion) made it to the Copenhagen major. So it was 3 swedes, not 1. (Although Isak and Gamer Legion technically didn't make the quali, they were in the major because they were the closest to quali and 9pandas couldn't make it due to visa issues so they replaced them)

[@avveb9644]

Also two major culture changes happened. First people stopped wanting to cooperate as much and the secound is that when Sweden were at its peak it everyone had a home PC. Everyone in high school were gaming and lots of people were skipping school to game. The dedication were different and the scale of this movement shook the entire Swedish culture. Gamers were high skilled people who really tried to master the game. The first point is relevant since people dont want the struggle anymore, they dont want to figure out how a team can operate to win matches. Instead people just play a game in silence and after they go to bed. Back then people trained alot in 1v1 areas and were active in the community, nowadays people just queue a game and isnt a part of the community in the same way. Finally, Sweden never tried to look into the future and find a system to create and improve new players. These new guys went in to the game and even if they were skilled enough no one figured that we all would play better if we all just took an hour a week to actually collectivly train. If there were courses for free or training sessions for free backed by an non profit organization Sweden would still be dominant.

[@ciggyroach]

2:09 it feels so weird to see my fairly small home town get mentioned in a random KZbin video haha Edit: i excuse your pronunciation 🤣

[@mustafa_sakalli]

From 2014 to 2019 I was a crazy NiP fan. I had an emotional bond with that roster, when they won Dreamhack Malmo I almost cried from happiness 😂 I think what Sweds should do is going back to core. 5 swedish player rosters, not huge but functioning organizations (like former NiP and Godsent) and giving time to young sweds. I believe they have plenty of undiscovered young CS players out there

[@zoom5024]

I feel like the whole cs community has fallen off in Sweden, CS used to be number 1, 2 & 3. Dont feel like it's anywhere near as popular these days.

[@edbevege9681]

Great vid mate 🍻

[@BANDERAAAAAA]

6:24 there is no CIS region .

[@fnnpc746]

I live in Jönköping and it was announced that dreamhack will only take place in stockholm from now on, which is a big shame. It kinda fits the downfall of Sweden.

[@skyrix4458]

great video... deserves more views :D

[@n3bu1a]

Thanks mate! I appreciate it

[@BenDash-]

solid video, keep it up

[@ggMelvin]

get right has returned in d0nk

[@7limey]

What??

[@S.V.M-MCMXCIX]

No???

[@S.V.M-MCMXCIX]

Donk Will never be get right, just becuz he does some peeks? To do what get right did is near inpossible

[@Jane-qh2yd]

@@S.V.M-MCMXCIX Sorry, but Get_Right is nowhere near the best CSGO player of all time. Hell, he isn't even the best rifler. Sure, I don't think Donk has yet reached his level, but calling what he did "nearly impossible" when a ton of different players have fulfilled his role MUCH BETTER is crazy

[@S.V.M-MCMXCIX]

@@Jane-qh2yd you must look at the time he was the best and how long across different games, the tools you have today didnt exist

[@Oggies]

at 2:15 you say 3 teams were swedish in the first major but that is not true because pita is also swedish but has a bosninan flag.

[@n3bu1a]

3 more. In addition to the favourites NIP. For a total of 4 teams.

[@Oggies]

@@n3bu1a Oh sorry I did not realise that. Great video btw!

[@borjeman]

The answer is the death of LAN and competitiveness. People play on cell phones nowadays and they are too mind-controlled by addictive quick fixes to learn to get good at any games.

[@brovall5079]

why dont you mention metizport?

[@tspeck1]

cause they are ranked lower than johnny speeds

[@brovall5079]

@@tspeck1 they beat falcons not so long ago, their talent just got spread out to other teams now so they lost ranking points etc

[@sihiri_kabari]

We just got bored of cs. Now we’re playing this game called ”real life” and ”touching grass”

[@Zeppyzz]

Only 145 subs wtf xD Great video bro! you going places 🔥

[@n3bu1a]

@@Zeppyzz thanks bro. More coming!

[@morten3093]

Nilo from Metizport is pretty good

[@JimmyK2012]

It would be good to talk about the downfalls of Poland, France, Brazil in CS, and the risings of Mongolia, Portugal, Turkey, Israel (individually) in CS

[@Acolyte82]

turkey has never risen lol they have a few ok players that have never won anything

[@zackoric2423]

broh lan!

[@akooo-db8ev]

They never fell off

[@Oscar-mt3uf]

Awesome video!

[@chanchaniceman]

The lack of talent development, proper established organization,not letting upcoming 5 men rosters grow as they get picked apart by the bigger orgs and players making wrong moves or getting picked at the wrong time sets the scene back. In today’s era International teams or teams with a mixed nationalities are very much a thing. Also orgs not letting their OG stars leave or removed due to sentimental reasoning. Even Team Liquid who plays in the NA region has an international roster roster. The last 7-10 years there’s a dozen of players that all had talents but never had the right team,environment and such to grow or getting removed for reasons outside the game.

[@noelhalvordson6465]

Jon-Ko-Ping

[@sageen]

as a Swede Cs nerd all these guys are gods, but no one could do shit like HeatoN or Get_Right when they were in the zone

[@Agreveby]

Just out of curiosity: why are callin Sweden a region and not a country?

[@lollol-u7f]

comes down to swedes in general being slow at adapting to change.

[@Floppyh]

I wish sweden didn't make non-swedish teams like Godsent....

[@nomizanity]

METIZPORT!💚

[@tilus3407]

Good video, although I would have liked a mention of the fnatic-godsent drama. Also I’m pretty sure isak and nawwk played in the copenhagen major for GamerLegion and Apeks, unless you only count the second stage

[@rob41n]

Sweden farmed in 1.5 and 1.6.

[@bokonoo77]

Apparently the first team donk played in was named sverg Given that rurik founded Russia who knows

[@5e88e]

Tack

[@juanme555]

Lekr0 is crack level , as far as pure raw skill goes you download a Lekr0 demo even when his kd score is terrible you actually watch his pov on the game and he literally has better hand-eye coordination and aim than zywoo. Sweden produces talent but they have a severe lack of discipline and absolute 0 patriotism, in fact they think that's cringe. Counter-Strike dies a little if there is no swedish team competing in tier 1, but how are you gonna save the swedes? they dont wanna be saved, they wanna be americans.

[@Acolyte82]

i hard disagree that we have no patriotism, there is a stigma against it but being a patriot is still common.

[@zombie92110]

Today it is the CIS region.

[@BANDERAAAAAA]

Denmark replace Sweden like maybe someday Baltic States replace Ukraine

[@guessimissedthelz32]

Algeria :D, if we had great internet that is ):

[@vickers099]

Baltic cs on top rn

[@Deadmeatsz]

Too bad alot of cs "legends" also have aimlock vids floating around on the web. Pro scene is a joke from the start 😑

[@Acolyte82]

idiots with zero game knowledge will always accuse pros of cheating, you're talking crap.

[@Deadmeatsz]

@@Acolyte82 how much seed have you swallowed to not ask questions for decades? Apparently locking onto off positions and moving targets through walls is ok i your mind. Yet you wonder why the game is cheater infested. 🤓

[@TrasheyeGym]

We used to be good, When the game was good. 1.6. CS GO is mid

[@poiii8045]

rip sweden

[@Drakon332x]

6-1

[@freddew]

Could also be that... the game sucks :D alot of players quit when being "CSGO"d was a thing. Cs2 is worse as you need a NASA computer to have steady 300+fps

[@MrEnigmaCrime]

Hello do you have an email I can reach you by?

[@n3bu1a]

In my bio!

[@Oggies]

Great video!

[@n3bu1a]

Glad you enjoyed it