Coup or Revolution? Ukraine Seeks Arrest of Ousted President Following Deadly Street Protests (1/2)

www.democracynow.org - Ukraine is in a state of crisis two days after the country's democratically elected president was ousted following months of street protests that left at least 82 people dead. On Saturday, Ukraine's parliament voted to remove President Viktor Yanukovych, a move Yanukovych described as a coup. Earlier today, Ukraine's new leaders announced the ousted president was wanted for mass murder of peaceful protesters. Russia condemned the move to oust Yanukovych and recalled its ambassador to Ukraine. Meanwhile, Europe has embraced the new government. European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton is traveling to Ukraine today to discuss measures to shore up Ukraine's ailing economy. One of Yanukovych's main rivals, former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, was released from custody. We speak to Timothy Snyder, professor of history at Yale University. His latest article for the New York Review of Books is "Fascism, Russia, and Ukraine." We also speak to University of Rhode Island professor Nicolai Petro, who is in Odessa, Ukraine.
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[@maytacapac1942]

Those Ukrainians that supported the coup they might regret now. If they are still alive or in Ukraine at all. They are still learning their lesson not to be selfish.

[@ken-je9oi]

Nah, it's more regretting if they rule a single person that was corrupt and silence it's own people.

[@mettfrr7688]

Your laughing about ppl dying bc they wanted a different country? Sickening

[@maytacapac1942]

You are correct! I have edited and eliminated the offending icons

[@-joe90]

During all these years they were preparing and subsidizing paramilitary groups of the extreme right to generate this war in Ukraine... as well as in Nicaragua, Syria etc etc etc

[@d1ndark25]

Bingo!!!!

[@adamfriedman7807]

@@d1ndark25 except its was the extreme globalists....which now associate or are associated as the left....

[@ebonytv3414]

Just because they speak Russian doesn’t mean they like Russia as majority of Ukrainians speak Russian.

[@o.-.o-O_O-o.-.o729]

Right? Such a weird conflation to make. Especially given Tymoshenko is on recording talking about nuking these people. Just cause she speaks Russian doesn't mean anything.

[@amivar8677]

These protesters don't represent the whole Ukraine.Freedom fighter BS. Respect the majority vote

[@teddylee1218]

Was AZOV sniper was killing protesters and police ❓

[@tatianalyulkin410]

No, Azov didn't exist back then. But definitely someone connected to Nuland, Kolomojsky and other various human garbage.

[@teddylee1218]

@@tatianalyulkin410 I don't know what they called themselves before this but they was in a. D/W documentary . You could find it under white supremacy groups .

[@Dan123a]

Yes and Azov set up torture chambers in Mariupol and killed civilians

[@teddylee1218]

@@Dan123a like the Odessa Massacre in 2014 ?

[@colincornelius8916]

America see what you have done

[@tatianalyulkin410]

America is in denial and cannot be reached at this moment. Please leave a message.. .

[@mab1ism]

I apologize for the actions of my government too. I pray the US government faces retribution

[@ennuiennui7]

Good to see how it all began

[@ganiniii]

You're name is Timoshenko. It all started with a whore sharing your name.

[@SJO897]

Here to learn more about the current situation

[@7anonimo1]

Thank you Prof. Snyder your check is in the mail. Best regards, The CIA!!!

[@EYE2DO4U]

Yes, Propagandist at work, and following his BS 15,000 people of Russian ethnicity would die of a western Nazi proxy government, armed by the UN and now NATO in the manufactured proxy war.

[@mrtriffid]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@benzandpour]

And the other guy is paid by KGB?

[@jeffersonthomas1269]

@@benzandpour The other guy was honest. The dead are all a product of the USA killing to get control of resources.

[@krevetka9744]

How interesting that he says "less than 3% want to leave Ukraine". If you ask me if I want to leave my country all of a sudden of course I say no. But I'd have a different opinion on "would you like to reform your country into a federation?".

[@badhombre4942]

Congrats...you reap what you sow. How great is Ukraine now, with their 'Murican "democracy"?

[@ennuiennui7]

Snyder forgot to mention that Klichko was prepared in Germany by political activists for his role

[@davidaxelos4678]

Wasn't he a boxer?

[@ennuiennui7]

@@davidaxelos4678 as you can see, he was pushed to expand his talents in politics too. He was often invited to political training sessions too

[@r3fus32d13]

of course the trooth barely has any views or coverage. What a sad state we are in

[@cooldudecs]

This caused the invasion

[@Glenr130]

Indeed, the west caused it by interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine.

[@unclepaulhahrrgis8730]

Its a war of choice started by the russian federation. But the western leaning of the ukrainian people which deposed an eastern leaning president certainly motivated that. Nevertheless, an unecessary war like iraq and the prolonged occupation of afghanistan. At least a common enemy should help consolidate the ukrainian identity... humanitarian costs will keep rising though (on both sides). But in comparison, for putins russia there are only costs here...no winning or even a real definition of success visible (like iraq, afghanistan 1&2, vietnam, etc)

[@prestonsadler7636]

@@unclepaulhahrrgis8730 the US had a huge hand in this. Now Putin is removing the puppets.

[@unclepaulhahrrgis8730]

@@prestonsadler7636 putin had a huge hand in this (yanukovich) and now he is reinstating his puppet (or another). The often quoted leaked phone call of the us ambassador to ukraine proves nothing, but i doubt you read the transcript. Have it your way ... like the burger king says 😉. Btw: do they still have burger king in russia? 🤔 also: good job in picking that user name, it sounds really 'american-y', when it is fairly clear that you are a putin boot-licker

[@notarmchairhistorian7779]

@Uncle Paul Hahrrgis Right. So this wasn't the Ukrainians choice? Your logic is as confused as you are.

[@meineculting915]

Coup, 100%

[@harrybriscoe7948]

How many different kingdoms do you think controlled the region in the past 6,000 years ?

[@meineculting915]

@@harrybriscoe7948 literally dont care ukraine nazi shot at their own people to create falseflag, video evidence everywhere

[@khubza8999]

COLOR COUP-REGIME CHANGE

[@VatnikSlayer2799]

You obviously don't know the correct definition of the term coup de tat.

[@sandrocosta479]

Timothy Snyder is a liar

[@SteveB-nx2uo]

Coup.

[@itssanti]

Snyder seems to be a political operative at this point to me. The guy just wanted to keep on adding ethnicities and nationalities to the protests...I mean it couldn't be more evident he was making things up

[@Dwelleronthethreshold89]

He’s definitely on the soros pyroll.... his argument about diversity testifies against him!

[@itssanti]

@@Dwelleronthethreshold89 Well I don't know about that. I've watched several of his lectures, not just interviews. All of them have a common thread, they are all furiously rossophobic, it tells you something about the man and his agenda. Usually when true academics give lectures, their deliveries are full of nueances and contexts and even contradictory sources to present issues in their true complexity, but this guy is just a propagandist using his degrees to back his prejudices and biases...I am talking about historians here. I don't like the guy at all.

[@itssanti]

@@Dwelleronthethreshold89 I actually did some research and apparently he is part of various Soros funded organizations and think tanks.

[@9003andi]

By democracy mean, give all your resources and sovereignty of your country to USA....

[@nikolaievans2432]

Nope the people wanted to be alligned with western eruo

[@vthilton]

Sharing, Justice and Peace for all will help Save Our Planet

[@DEvilParsnip]

"Genuine civic frustration", enough said

[@sandrocosta479]

LOL if that was enough Biden would be long gone fuck off

[@healingsoundsandvibrations7967]

You are paying for it today…you people ousted an innocent man.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

Yanokovych was corrupt and abandoned his promises of European integration.

[@healingsoundsandvibrations7967]

@@sabinereynaudsf How good is Zelensky?he is the puppet of the west, and none of his friends came to assist him, all they are doing is sending him weapons and create more violence,will make Ukraine into a ruin, loss of so many lives, people are homeless , there will be famine and the list goes on….have you gained anything?

[@sabinereynaudsf]

@@healingsoundsandvibrations7967 And who is bringing this ruin to Ukraine, who is doing the bombing, who unleashing a hypersonic missile, who brought in 150,000 troop with their tanks into the country of Ukraine? Nothing is gained here. Putin needs to withdraw his troops and stop this madness. Who the Ukrainians elect as their president is up to them. Zelensky is standing up for his country and the people of his country. If he was a mere puppet he could have left the country when the war started. Yanokovych however fled that country at the first opportunity, the one that you called the "innocent man", although you have no idea how he governed and what a turn coat he was, what he did with the banks, and the political prosecutions he supported.

[@healingsoundsandvibrations7967]

@@sabinereynaudsf Is Zelensky still in Ukraine, only time will tell.What we see in the Media is not always the truth. I am not in favour of the war, it needs to stop ASAP.But the reason Putin is attacking is because it’s security was at risk. Zelensky should have made peace with Russia and sorted out the differences and concerns Russia had before the war…Negotiations would have been the way to go…But in return he allowed USA to exploit Ukraine and convert it into what it is today…they made Bio weapons close to the Russian Borders..Why? In the 70’s when Russia was friends with Cuba , USA had a problem with that because they felt at risk, and had a war with Cuba,then why shouldn’t Russia feel the same? USA has a habit of creating wars everywhere so that they can sell their weapons.

[@notarmchairhistorian7779]

He was ousted from power without even being proven guilty. Simply mass hysteria and propaganda. It may not have been military but it was still an overthrow of a regime, corrupt or otherwise, which was not justified by law.

[@tomspaghetti]

Yanukovych: "I will not leave Ukraine" - this one didn't age well

[@justinbozeman9279]

Neither did the coup

[@pasofino9583]

Zelenzky said same thing, let’s see how that goes

[@tomspaghetti]

@@pasofino9583 any update on this one?

[@pasofino9583]

@@tomspaghetti as of April 18 he’s in Ukraine

[@yulp1]

@@pasofino9583 as of August 27th still in Ukraine.

[@tcheyne1951]

Professor Snyder’s, assessment borders on the delusional

[@khubza8999]

Snyder is very partisan--how could snipers identify "an Armenian" or any other of the ethnicities mentioned? When people protest, do they act as "Muslims" or Ukrainians?

[@benzandpour]

Please explain

[@davewalmash6849]

Yes, please do

[@happyhobo2217]

There is no explanation when throwing assertions with no backing… Snyders assertions are largely correct

[@stefanlangenhoven78]

Wow looking back how wrong that professor was

[@schulerlukas2720]

Wow how propagandized are you

[@snarveien1853]

Professor Nicolai Petro is still right. It was a west instigated coup to oust the democratically elected President. The next right wing govt declared banned of Russian language. Then burning trade-union building in Odessa that killed Russian speaking Ukrainians. Thus, what is happening now. Zelensky is surrounded by extreme right, which were funded and supported by the west. An outsider Prof. Timothy Snyder was wrong.

[@davenunya2263]

"peaceful protesters" hahahaha. You are liars

[@user-in9iw5lb8b]

@Dave, they started peacefully and then Berkut began attacking protesters. It eventually turned into protesters with bricks vs Berkut with guns. Berkut started the violence. There is a good documentary about this called ‘Winter On Fire’

[@user-in9iw5lb8b]

Berkut and another group were using snipers to kill protesters. There is video of this

[@davenunya2263]

@Z: I'll check it out, thanks

[@prestonsadler7636]

@@user-in9iw5lb8b it’s not a good documentary though. It’s pure propaganda, they don’t even interview the government in place. That documentary was pure dishonesty designed to pull at your heart strings. Guess it worked eh.

[@user-in9iw5lb8b]

@Preston, have you seen it ? It’s mostly kids throwing rocks at heavily armed Berkut security orgs. There are snipers shooting kids. How can you deny the brutality of such a spectacle. Regardless of the documentary, many people in Ukraine want to be a part of the EU and do not want to be part of Russia. Why do you support a Putin puppet government ?

[@audiogrouch1]

when did Amy go full CIA?

[@BarnabyWild13]

Since she started getting blackmailed like everyone else.

[@reysagrado]

The massacre in Kiev was committed by oppositors of Yanukovich, as a Tribunal of Justice from Ukraine declared two months ago.

[@AlMirqab007]

VIVA UKRAINE FREE, LIBERTY FOR THE PEOPLE....

[@grapentine739]

yes stop the war and make Ukraine neutral like Switzerland and Austria

[@peterjensen3076]

Snyder is such a liar!

[@thecoin5394]

Was it a coup or not? Tue answer is simple .. ask them : when was Yanukovich impeached? 😂 and the silent voice from the western countries show you their true color.

[@mohinderkumar7298]

Watch it on 4 April 2022.

[@iragerzon5923]

you can clearly see how one-sided a speaker from Odessa presents the situation. This is how mistrust and unrest is still being nutured in the country... Now, reconcillation is the only way forward

[@podcat0185]

Same could be said for Snyder as well.

[@carlabroderick5508]

@@podcat0185 I found Snyder’s language and view to the future to be extremely inclusive.

[@podcat0185]

@@carlabroderick5508 yes, it's called intersectional imperialism.

[@lordhighexecutioner]

From Odessa, these are disposable "colorado beetles" who must make way for the glories of Bandera and of neoconservatism.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Inclusive? Since 2014 we haven't even been considered human!

[@ma-sa-2949]

終わりと始まりには色々と様々で、大きな意味を持つと思います！

[@anybody2514]

No EVIDENCE but ASSUMPTION about who was killing people at the maidan.

[@abazz12]

ukraine is game to you yanukovych? - seinfeld reference.

[@danieljones9931]

Is this a recent interview? This so-called prof. seem to be living in a parallel universe. Already,Kieve can not enter Eastern Ukraine.

[@donalain69]

7:54 let me guess: the man you hired to do those polls was a guy with a long beard, coat and a bottle of vodka in his hand. am i right? :)

[@goldreserve]

I don't know about this poll. There are a lot of polls published by the Kiev International Institute of Sociology. There is apparently a divide in Ukraine. In 2020 60% of South and East didn't want to join Nato. Similar percentage in the rest of the coutry wanted to join Nato. 17% of Ukrainians are ethnic Russian. 28% primarily speak Russian.

[@donalain69]

​@@goldreserve Ok. to be fair, that poll didnt take in account what would happen if some misterious snipers casue the legally elected governement to be overthrown and replaced with a US selected puppet regime (that claim is based on the leaked phone call of Victoria Nuland while the claim about unknown snipers is based on a BBC doeumentary about it). The people in eastern Ukraine probably never actually wanted to become independent, they just didnt accept to be ruled by a government that illegally replaced the one they voted for....(Donbas oficially boycotted the vote and had only a 15% voter turnout. Crimea didnt vote at all). So the poll might actually even been right, just the conclusion ukraine could never be split in east and west turned out to be dead wrong

[@RastaSaint7]

First they Poll the people then they Pole the People.

[@carlabroderick5508]

Snyder’s analysis rings true.

[@CryptoKevin]

Did you factor in the the CIA doing regime change in Ukraine? They have a history bringing Democracy to nations without their consent. There are also a large population of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, mostly in the East & Crimea who would rather have good relations with Russia. For us to come in & push a violent revolution is not Democratic.

[@marcelobarros5729]

@@CryptoKevin Is there a larger population in the whole country itself wanting more relations with Europe instead ?

[@alexwestconsulting]

ummmmm, he literally said that there was no chance that Ukraine would face a split. then came the split. then came the civil war, then came Russia.

[@alexwestconsulting]

@@CryptoKevin Millions of people have been denied federal vote for the last 2 elections. That's their version of 'democracy'. Guess which side of the country. This guy Snyder is just amazingly unaware of the ethnic divisions in Ukraine.

[@SanMikeva]

@@alexwestconsulting there is no recognized territorial and governmental split, and there won’t be until the end of the current conflict, which is an invasion from outside forces, Russia in this case, which is exactly what he said……

[@danburke6568]

The question is did a outside country pay for this change of power is key? If so then many life's are lost when that money could of been use to make a alliance which was building up after the cold war. Russia will always fear a land war. Read a book.

[@charlesmaine7387]

Its not a coup, the parliament voted to remove the president, coup is committed by military, but in ukraine civilians are the one who protests, the president should not insists to stay in the office, it is shameful for him to do that while the people dont want his leadership. Let the people decide, not the government. And the Russians should not interfere, this is a matter of national crisis, if Russia still insist, they will face the consequences.

[@Dan123a]

Why did US interfere? Why did John McCain go there? How come did US spend $5 billion on Ukrainian “democracy “?

[@yurchikbelov1]

Nikolai has no idea what he is talking about.. neither he understands what is revolution..

[@danieljones9931]

Revolution is ANYTHING the US supports.Right?

[@yurchikbelov1]

Revolution is a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system. When you have a "forcible overthrow" things don't work like in an everyday democratic society.. but the idea is that that "new system" is worth the cost

[@vashlash6870]

@@yurchikbelov1 yeah and now look what has happened. By Ukraine being overthrown we have a full scale war. Great.

[@Dwelleronthethreshold89]

You have terrible pattern recognition skills. This is literally the same script they’re using in the US with their implanted, Soros funded/ trained activists to overthrow whoever they don’t like that they can build back better. And it wasn’t the first.

[@notarmchairhistorian7779]

@Yurchik Belov believe me fella, in recent times, its not even worth puting those useless figureheads to replace supposed corrupt people.

[@doncasey9962]

amy ? where are you really? why aren't you behind the conspiratorial facts, and evidence of 911? now i watch you cover the Ukrainian event, and i feel you are out of touch, and your appearing less and less as the progressive journalist i want informing of what i need to know to live my life and fight an obvious and dangerous political environment.

[@antmagor]

Democracy now this report is an insult to journalism. You are supposed to have a bias to humane rights. I know you are independent I love that about you. But on this story you are Independently complacent in Russia's agenda. Imperialism is wrong no matter who does it! Amy I love you and enjoy your show. But on this subject you have failed , and because of that I know have no choice but to end my Democracy Now subscription.

[@vashlash6870]

Instigating foreign countries for American Imperialism = Human Rights. Re read the first two sentences of your comment. Are you TV Race?

[@pasofino9583]

@@vashlash6870 I think you miss read the comment friend.

[@notarmchairhistorian7779]

Sad. Did you like now the effects of foreign interference? Glad you're contributing to the problem.

[@grapentine739]

you should watch Noam Chomsky or George Galloway. As well as Patrick Lancaster who is on the ground in Eastern Russia showing you what the civilians who have had their homes and family members killed think of Zelensky and the stepan bandera idolizing leadership in the Ukrainian military and government

[@pat-2024]

Some guy here is suggesting to watch Ukraine on Fire from Oliver Stone to confirm that it was a “coup”! And i suggest: Watch it, all of you, a very good idea. And after that, watch “Winter on Fire”, almost with the same title, made long before this OS propaganda stripe, to reflect and to compare, why Russia and Stone wanted to record this new version, differently… In the first one you can see, how everything started, especially in 2013 on Maidan, and then, therefore, why OS got the order to do this own and different version? The similar title was to distract people not watching WoF, instead watching UoF, OS as a very good friend of Putin and quite famous. In his version he neither showed the beginning of the revolution, intentionally, because Russia wanted to name it like a COUP, even if it wasn’t. This came from Malofejew and his strategy papers. He knew that Yanukovich was unholdable and finishing to lead Ukraine. And he didn’t sign the association contract, because Russia told him this to do. He was in Kreml before. Just the fact, that this second version was made by OS, and got almost the same name, shows me, that Russia, with Malofejew and the russian ultranationalists, like Dugín, Girkin, Pushilin, Borodai, Gubarev, Saldostanov or Utkin, wanted this to be named a coup, and a junta, to get an excuse of there invasion on Crimea. This act needed a justification in front of his own people in Russia and in front of the world. Yanukovich btw, fled to Crimea and there he met some of these guys i mentioned. This plan of taking crimea was made long before, and the further steps to invade Donbass… So, everybody really should know, that Russia was staging it with exactly this strategy, obviously and 100% logic… Because if not, why they needed to lie again with the “little green men”…, inviting far right politicians around Europe to legalise an illegal made referenderum etc etc etc… Ukraine on Fire is therefore the best evidence that Russia was lying from the beginning till now, and all the world leaders know this…

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Coup.