CPL students in A320: flight control failure - Baltic Aviation Academy

www.balticaa.com Baltic Aviation Academy's CPL Modular students came up with a very unrealistic but fun video idea. Elevator and aileron control loss never happens, but we still decided to try what it would require for pilots to do in case this situation occurs in real life. Feel free to send us your video ideas, and remember, that this is not for training purposes! Enjoy!
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[@GGSTop]

Pranas would land it even without wings.

[@mandodnam]

Pranas would fly it with his own wings

[@Firecul]

Pretty well handled I thought. I would like to see more of the failures that haven't been covered yet in your videos.

[@npbrun4877]

Very difficult to fly this particular failure. Especially when the auto thrust is still engaged. Big thrust variations makes the pitch very lively. That is why he is having to work extra hard. Good job for two student pilots without that much experience.

[@nikkocnn]

Again a cool video. Great job

[@t.g.777]

Good Job , your videos are the best!

[@uday7311]

Awesome control

[@user-ot1kt1sl3g]

Nice job there, guyz! )

[@ivanzabara670]

Late response here) Guys, how you have armed MAX autobrake in flight? A320 FCOM: SYSTEM ARMING The system arms when the crew presses the LO, MED, or MAX pushbutton switch if: ‐ Green pressure is available. ‐ The anti-skid system has electric power. ‐ There is no failure in the braking system. ‐ At least one ADIRS is functioning. Note: 1. Auto brake may be armed with the parking brake on. 2. *MAX autobrake mode cannot be armed in flight.*

[@JYKDutchYT]

I really would like to see you guys performa side slip landing without engines +BAA Training

[@ivanzabara670]

What is malfunction was using for "Aileron failure" section? Did not see any ECAM messages, except of SPLR FAULT (# 3). I suppose, it should be ELAC 1+2 or L+R Sidestick Fault messages.

[@hauptchr]

Flying in mechanical backup mode (pitch control via THS) is much easier, if you fly also with manual thrust. With A/T on, if you over-react with the trim wheel, A/T will change the thrust a lot which results in addidional moments which you have to compensate with the THS. Let your pilot monitoring be your "A/T" , you say e.g. give me 52% N1, now give me 50% N1 ect. So you can simultaniousely change the trim. Or leave manual thrust at a fixed value. Of course, your speed will change, maybe +/- 10 kt IAS. Why not, no problem at all. But you need only minor changes for the THS to control your pitch.

[@halbi1234]

Great video. But I thought you never land with autobrake max. And can you guys do a landing with all flaps/slats failed? Would be amazing.

[@Wolf_IT]

It's a good idea in emergency situations just incase you start to run out of runway

[@rikis8266]

You are very wrong on this fact! You can land with autobrake max when ever needed! Especially in emergency...

[@halbi1234]

i stand corrected. thanks guys

[@cruxader27]

4:31 I wonder if the plane is still intact if that happens in real scenario.

[@Persephone_]

The landing gear would probably need a replacement. Oh, and all the spines of the passengers on board. xD

[@FrancescoVenturelli]

+cruxader27 those "simulators" are the closest level of simulation possible to real life. if they didn't crash on that simulator they probably wouldn't have crashed in real life.

[@louist103]

Gear might need replacement. Definitely going to need new tires. Hopefully not too much frame damage which could cause a complete hull loss.

[@jessielesbian6791]

That is actually softer than a ryanair landing.

[@housamalhoussawi7311]

Cool

[@walkerpendleton760]

do a one engine failure and hydrolics in quick order and see what the pilots can do

[@Hamudi2000]

Looked to me like EDDF where G/A altitude is actually 5000 ;)

[@panchoscse77]

why dont you try loosing all hydraulics?

[@EconomyFlyer]

ATPL or CPL Course?

[@PEPcessna]

+Flight Reports I think ATPL

[@Freakschwimmer]

I think, keeping trim an dnot having trim fail as well is kinda... mh.. cheating I guess. We all remeber UA232, don't we? ;)

[@tomstravels520]

Freakschwimmer that was loss of hydraulic fluid. If that happened in any big airliner there would be problems. Except A350/A380

[@Luck21st]

ok

[@iraniran8220]

oh my god did you use the thrust revers before landing?

[@iraniran8220]

i saw from your landing that how prof,,,are you?

[@markofexcellence5209]

You can use the reversers before landing anyway.

[@tomstravels520]

What were you watching? I didn’t see them use reverse before touchdown

[@Jetairplane]

if elevator control is lost (in this case trim is still functioning) i would extend flaps to generate lift to pitch the nose up if necessary and retract to pitch down mixing in power needed, and use rudder and engine thrust to steer aircraft.

[@mrcannotfindaname]

How do you control roll when aileron fails?

[@DaDonkeyLetsPlays]

mrcannotfindaname Rudders,can use thrust levers though

[@mrcannotfindaname]

DaDonkeyHD Is there a set o mechanical control on Airbus in case a total flight control failure? I only ask because I know Boeing 737 has.

[@DaDonkeyLetsPlays]

I dunno should be

+mrcannotfindaname The rudder pedals and the trim wheel are the only controls mechanically linked for obvious reasons, the rest is done by fly-by-wire.

+DaDonkeyHD no.

[@gnietodeleon]

What ABOUT ECAM ACTIONS? What about standard call outs...bad reference video... A real A320 pilot

[@organ66]

What a hard landing :-D

[@davidbrosus1150]

really this is 21 century . why any manufacture company cant build a plane with easy controls, without hundred of switches, i mean bit easy. like vehicles that anyone can drive. if that auto pilot can fly and land automaticly. why they cant build a one fully automatic. really cant we invade the sky like aliens ships without pushing one by one , bla bla bla , keep setting. so annoying. i mean so pissing off when i looking at these complicated things.

[@tomstravels520]

Because no matter how much automation you put into something there will always be something it won’t expect

[@kaydnburns5935]

That landing was terrible lol

[@bobalobalie]

Kaydn Burns Their flight controls failed completely. So, the landing was actually quite good considering they were manually flying by using trim wheel and rudder and had no controls with the sidestick. That would have been a completely survivable landing of all passengers and crew. This was damn impressive flying.

[@kaydnburns5935]

BewareTheIdes Oh damn, i didnt know that lol, i didnt even read the title, i drank a couple beers last night so i was just watching random airplane videos (im a pilot in training). But then yea, amazing landing

[@okq3041]

I don’t understand this video , the students they don’t have idea about Airbus procedure ! My,grandmother could do the same .