CPU Upgrade Time? - Why Your CPU Matters MORE Than You Think! - Tech Deals

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[@Memeteam903]

I’m riding this 5800x3D out like I did with my i7 2600k!!

[@jamegumb7298]

2600 to 5600 here. Eyeing a 7900X though. But _if_ I get that, riding it out hard.

[@Memeteam903]

I went from a 2700x to a 3700x to a 5800x3d all on the same motherboard. The 3D chips are sooooooo good I think they will stay relevant for another 5 years easy. Only problem is they run HOTT. Get a good cooler

[@ZippyTPinhead]

A few years ago , I went from a I7 4970k to a Ryzen 3800x. I thought CPUs weren't a big contributor to performance as I used close to top tier GPU's. I was so wrong.

[@mudgie0205]

Same! It’s not 2012 anymore

[@vanveenmatt]

I went from a i7 2600k to a Ryzen 5900x a couple years ago and definitely a big difference.

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

i did go from a 7820X to a 10940X

[@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg]

I will not be upgrading anything sick of feeding these greedy corporations.

[@veilmontTV]

Leaves more stock for me

[@kwasjemycat9236]

Do you want it ?do you deserve it ? Then buy it they dont give a shit about you nobody does only you can buy that cpu for yourself nobody else so do you want it or not

[@JGComments]

LOL. What do you think these companies exist for? To serve the common good? 😂

[@a120068020]

Going from a 286 to a 386DX was like night and day. As was putting a 50MHz 68030 in my Amiga 1200 over the stock 14MHz 68EC020.

[@Luke.Skywodka]

👍 I did the same on my A1200, with extra 8MB "fast-ram" so i could play Frontier: Elite 2.

[@kzxkzxkzx]

Went from 486 to Pentium 4. 100% recommended!

[@TheAlex82]

i went from i5 10400 to i5. 13600k, and yes the wow factor is there big time😊

[@TechDeals]

Thanks for sharing... more people need to hear this. So many years of tiny upgrades, people don't understand recent changes!

[@TheAlex82]

@@TechDeals no they don't, and logic and reason doesn't work, you have to feel it, it's like all your computer problems have gone away, i don't know how to describe it

[@alexspeed8888]

I have a 10400F and I recently bought a used 3080 10G for 400€. Would you recommend an upgrade once I fix my money problems? I use my PC for game development on UE5 and 4K gaming, but I also have no problem doing compromises

[@TheAlex82]

@@alexspeed8888 i guess since you make money with your computer, to go for i9 13900k or ryzen , whatever is the top one, i think tho a i5 13500 or i5 14500 would be fine

[@mickieg1994]

​@alexspeed8888 like Alex said, if it's how you make your money and that's something you are passionate about, don't hold back or be discouraged from buying the upper tier chips, they will make a night and day difference in your use case.

[@saucemaster2]

AM4 is still alive and kicking with new upgrades on the way

[@JetLagRecords]

Tech Deals, Your videos are fantastic! I just had to subscribe!

[@TechDeals]

Awesome, thank you!

[@nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365]

Almost a year ago I went from a 10400->10900k. Same MOBO a Z590 just upgraded the cooler from Stock Intel to an NHD15s. So far it’s been solid for a 4 year old Processor.

[@progmistro]

The older CPUs are fine but getting a decent mobo that isn't double the CPU price is ridiculous

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

You aren’t wrong. I remember when I first got an am4 pc in 2017/18. At the time I got a b350 motherboard for about 70 dollars. Now to get a board at that price with a good feature set you are really shopping or maybe going open box. My current z690 board cost around 90 bucks but that was an open box probably returned.

[@TechDeals]

Intel boards stayed a bit cheaper, but those AM5 prices... yea, they did get expensive!

[@vinnunani3989]

Your right but Wt is the reason sir why am5 expensive ?

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

@@vinnunani3989you gotta figure entire new chipsets to build and ddr5 support as well. As production ramps up things become less expensive it seems. For me though the reason I went Intel last time was platform cost. As the overall cost of the cpu/board and ram was a little less than an am5 setup.

[@rene.s.s]

@@vinnunani3989AM5 has a lot of new tech (not really an excuse) and is over engineered (intentionally to recoup cost).

[@Ultrajamz]

I’m on a 7700x, I think in my case I am better off waiting for the last series to be made for AM5, whether thats 9000 or 10,000 series.

[@AJSquirrel53]

Still rocking the R5 2600! 👌

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

Time to sell and get a 5700x😊

[@tonymontalvo2004]

Nothing wrong with that. I always need to convince myself. I don't need the latest and greatest parts. Especially if whenever I currently have is getting a job done just fine

[@TechDeals]

@@Averagedude-mi3fl Amen to that... the gains are extreme for such a short time!

[@TechDeals]

@@tonymontalvo2004 80% more single core and 100% more multi core for less than $100 isn't worth it to you? Biggest no-brainer upgrade in a LONG time...

[@ARH0101]

You have my condolences

[@marquesconerly5043]

I know it been time for me 🤦🏽‍♂️ still have an i3 - 8100 with an rx 6600 and a 60 hz 1080p monitor im trying to wait for intels 15th gen

[@TechDeals]

Ouch, pain, ouch! :)

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

owww, poor mark, if u can run away from it, your not in for a treat, but could be nice to use as sort of a Bed PC for youtube and simple browsing it be quiet nice then :)

[@wakachang7543]

Still have a 7700k. Upgraded gaming rig a couple of times but this got shuffled into an unraid server. Don't run VM's and it doesn't break a sweat with the docker containers. I always say next time I'll sell parts early to pay for the upgrade, but never do. 😂 keep sliding down the stack.

[@Reminder74]

I have been using 8-core-CPUs for years, as "all" told me 4-6 cores are enough; now I changed to 12 cores last year (fresh AM5 Build with 7900X non 3d, ASRock X670 Steel Legend, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL30 and RTX 4090 for 2x UWQHD). What shall I say: no game, no application that wouldn`t run perfectly and smooth. As I am used to have it since years. Perhaps meanwhile there have been released a few CPUs that are more powerfull than my 7900X, but I´m pretty shure this Combo will last a while before the next upgrade will be neccessary. Many people out there don`t get the difference between "enough" and "fine". Ironically the same people don`t choose their car at same standards. And it`s completely senseless to discuss with them. You are called an idiot and much more when you advice to choose a 8-core-CPU as minimum, because at least 6-core is still enough. Same at all other hardware components. From RAM to GPU, always the same: the lower (cheaper) component is good enough, no reason to spend more money (or better: its unneccessary to senseless to spend more). That you will save money on long sight, when choosing the better components, this people never will understand. How many people for example have to buy a new PSU, because the existent hasn`t enough Power for the new GPU / Setup! 3-5 years old PSUs in perfect condition must be changed, only because back then, depending on 10-20$, they choosed the "enough one". Now they have to spend another 80-100$ for a new PSU. Crazy, stupid, ridiculous.

[@club4ghz]

Went from 8700K 5.1 x 4.6 + 4266 CL16 to 13600K 5.5 x 4.3 x 4.8 + 4000 CL15 with RTX 4080 and I guess I will be using it till the whole new build as there is no point upgrading GPU with that CPU or upgrading CPU for that GPU in my case.

[@TechDeals]

Nice upgrade!

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

I noticed a huge difference when i screwed with confidence. I went from around 30fps, to over 120fps when I screwed my RAM with confidence.

[@AngryChineseWoman]

lmao I'm glad some people perpetuate that meme

[@HeartOfAdel]

I'm on i9-9900KS 5.1/4.8 + 32gb 4266cl16 33ns with RTX 3080. Not upgrading this cpu till there's actually snappier chips from intel or amd. I think latency nowdays has been highly overlooked. And it still destroys games, even gets close to 70fps avg in Dragon's Dogma 2's main city. Whopping 30% faster than stock/xmp 9900Ks. It's more than enough to ride the 3080. Sometimes just be grateful for what you have.

[@chrissoucy1997]

GPUs are getting faster at a pace that CPUs can't quite keep up with. I have a 5800X 3D with an RTX 3090 and I am itching a CPU upgrade way more than a GPU upgrade right now. The 3090 still satisfies me more than enough, but there are a decent amount of games like Spider Man Remastered where I can't see the full potential of my 3090 with the ray tracing maxed out. I am waiting for Zen 5 X3D to upgrade the CPU.

[@AngryChineseWoman]

Still rocking a 3770k from 2013. I can play all those AAA games fine, paired with a 4090. /troll

[@club4ghz]

Ivy Bridge died with Assassin's Creed Origins

[@ALEX336X]

Went from an 8700 nonk, 16gb 2133mhz to a 14700k 32gb 6000mhz. Big difference in 1% lows and general boost in frames. Can also have much more open on my pc without it slowing down. I’ll have WoW open queuing for a raid and playing another game while I wait easily.

[@InfamousEllis]

As the tech guy at my church, I can honestly say that we would be ELATED to get donations of parts/partial systems. Probably not 12 yr old stuff, but the newer stuff would be GREATLY appreciated.

[@eilegz]

it depends on what you do, the i9 10850k according to tech yes city its more snappy and more responsive over current intel 14th gen, on its workflow he notice micro lags and stutters because of new architecture. I/O seems to favor old Intel because not having chiplets or p cores e cores

[@TechDeals]

I've seen that, but I disagree with that experience. We still have Rogue's i9-10850K in the office and it is not as responsive as our i9-13900K video editing PC.

[@HeartOfAdel]

​​​​@@TechDealsTune ram/ring for 35ns on 10850K, and 45-50ns on 13900K, + system tweaks. You will see what snappines they're really capable of. I heard some people say that fully tweaked 13900K e-cores off can feel snappier than 9900KS/10900K (I believe that), and that high core frequency helps with high polling rate mice. But it's overall here and there, some say it's better some say it's worse. I think it depends on the way it's used + how system/bios are tweaked. Not impressive for half a decade of progress.

[@RaymanSanctuary]

Am happy with my i7-13700k at 5.4GHz! Got a new Gigabyte motherboard that not only allows me to use my audio driver that gives me the Enhancement tab features I want but unlike the Z790 Aorus Master, the Elite X Wifi 7 board has both PCI-E slots below the x16 slot running at x4! The Z790 Aorus Master has the bottom PCI-E slot running at x4 but the middle slot running at x1, not to mention 4 Sata ports as opposed to the Elite X Wifi 7's 6 Sata ports.🤔😁

[@AngryChineseWoman]

i7 13900k ?

[@RaymanSanctuary]

Little brainfart there, the 13700k is what I meant.

[@edg3947]

Went from a 8700k to a 7800x3d with the same gpu ( 3080 ti ) and noticed a huge gaming boost! Like other ppl have said, no more stutters, major frame drops, and just overall a smoother experience gaming. So happy that I upgraded my cpu and didn’t spent a ton of $$ on a 4090

[@mathieubarabe4903]

I7-8700-----> 7800x3d and i was like wow...for 400$ including motherboard +32gb ram ddr5

[@TechDeals]

Nice deal! Was that MC?

[@mathieubarabe4903]

@@TechDeals Ha sry i forgot to mention we dont have micro center here..the guy who sold me the 7800x3D + Msi rog strix b650e-f + 32gb ddr5 5600mhz for 400$ canadian prefered to go with intel 13900k for university work...he had the 7800x3D for 2 months only and since it was new i grabbed it as fast as possible and im probably never gonna see this kind of a deal ever again in my life.

[@ARH0101]

Own a 12900ks and a770 machine. I’m good for a while.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Also have a 12900KF though, still raids nicely in game and discord. 14th or wait on my upgrades.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

went from a 7820X to a 10940x (free even cuz friend bought it also along new boardy and 256gb RAM, i already knew it was a wow upgrade lolz ^^ ppl that dotn getit just leave them alone for now tech 😘 ps the 7820 has a new life now as second pc next to my bed along the famous strix 1080ti oc so yeahh , thats how it should be optimally 😁

[@GoKu-yt7rb]

i had intel i7 9900kf now i have i7 10700kf, planning to upgrade to intel i7 13700kf, i put 2 more ram stick overclocked to 3200mhz, and did raid 0 with two samsung 990 pro 1 tb, i did 4kb stripe size, pc runs lightning fast, it´s not all about buying new something good optimisation is needed, :) .

[@rafaelacash7]

I'm going for my 1st PC build ever, been at laptop performance for ages, never owned a TRUE PC so the DBZ Power Level leap from a Intel Core i5 5200U to a 13600k/14600k or even an i7 13700/14700k paired with a 4070 TI Super should be interesting! This stupidly overpriced at $1599 at bestbuy in 2015 samsung ativ one 7 AIO served its purpose but I want more power! I could easily go all out with the latest 4090 with 14900ks but that's overkill imo and I wanna save plus paying basically $2k for a GPU is WILD! So this would be great for gaming, streaming, video editing and every day work/usage. I feel like an old grandpa being introduced to tech for the 1st time and I'm 21, doing as much research as I can, it feels overwhelming learning about all the PC parts and what they do, what the best price is for the parts and when the best time is to buy now or wait...

[@adamsaint2890]

The 9590, 980X/990X and 1090T/1100T are enthusiast chips. None are viable when viewed purely for their performance in modern computing tasks, especially not the Phenoms which won't even load a lot of modern software. I know you touched on this but maybe the 3% of people in the poll were looking at them as toys rather than serious gaming/productivity solutions.

[@TechDeals]

Indeed... they are absolutely fun to play with, it's why I have them all, but you're right, none are viable for daily use in 2024. I mean, you CAN, but you REALLY shouldn't. :)

[@jomendoz13]

I'm upgrading my 7920X as soon as ryzen 9000 series comes out. I do have a sandy bridge 2600k that will keep since I got the box signed by Gordon Moore.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

I have a 12600k and a 3070, was thinking to give it to my 5 year old in a year when hes six because he loves rocket league and can use it for education stuff and thatll give me an excuse to try out am5 zen5, and whatever the latest gen gpus will be out, i just like buying new stuff😂

[@JetLagRecords]

Tech Deals, I really liked this video! I subscribed too!

[@TheHangarHobbit]

This is why I'm glad I went AMD, I went from an ultra-budget R3 1200 right before the crypto craziness to an R5 3600 to a 5700x without anything more than a CPU swap and with AMD announcing in Taipei they are going to keep making new AM4 CPUs through 2025 by the time my AM4 with 64GB of RAM is too long in the tooth for gaming I will be able to jump to AM5 and probably get just as long a run.

[@kzxkzxkzx]

"... AMD announcing in Taipei they are going to keep making new AM4 CPUs through 2025..." You mean AM5, right?

[@mzs114]

I built and run Debian on two Ivy Bridges, I'm now inclined towards fanless mini PCs, just focus on work for me!

[@user-vsmsdos]

I went from a 990X to a 14900KS and plan to run that forever lol

[@letitiabeausoleil4025]

Looking for a 14th gen cpu for a linux based home theatre. Intel 300 here I come!

[@phathumulidzwi5631]

I'm thinking of holding on to my intel i7 10700k for now. Problem with the latest cpu is that they are power hungry and run very hot 🔥🥵 I only play story driven RPGs @ 1440p with V-sync on locked at 60fps , no MMOs. my gpu is RTX 4070 super and 32 gigs Ram.

[@CRF250R1521]

I have a 13700k on air cooler it doesn't run hot at all. Only when rendering 4k videos

[@phathumulidzwi5631]

@@CRF250R1521 thank you for the enlightment maybe i can upgrade to that but will have to do more reseach first.

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

Been a while... hope you guys are good 🤙

[@a120068020]

Tech/Rogue when looking on ebay, show all the options on the left and click on the "sold listings" radio button. Showing what people are listing product for can vary to what was actually sold. I always check sold listings before I set my BIN/starting price when moving stuff on eBay.

[@Hypershell]

"My Apple IIGS has a 2.8 Mhz CPU." "Yeah, 1 core." It's so beautiful to see a couple that keeps no secrets from each other.

[@theonerm2]

These days anyone can buy old parts off ebay and build a computer that can play games. I mean if you're poor and you want to get into PC gaming it's not that hard if you know what to look for. And that's not that hard either if you do your research.

[@Strongholdex]

I want to upgrade my i5 4590 and gtx 970.

[@ElladanKenet]

Great video!

[@TechDeals]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@christiaannienkemper2419]

I am literally upgrading my old pc from a i7 6700k to a Ryzen 7 7700x, I cannot wait

[@sashaantidot2444]

I have the same cpu and I don’t know which one should I grab or wait for better/best and be stable in 8 years again

[@mihair2854]

In 2021 I bought, for 1150 USD (adjusted to today's inflation), ASUS build with i5-10400F, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6. I'm getting into Data Science and now I bought a 2200 USD build: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5GHz, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, RX 7900 XT 20GB GDDR6. There's no freaking way I was going to pay almost double or more for a i9 14th gen and 4090 when the differences are minimal compared to the price.

[@GameHubLK]

I have a gaming pc, it's a 12400f with 6700xt on a gigabyte b660m gaming ddr4 motherboard, i'm thinking about a cpu upgrade.. in my country 12th gen i7 12700f is 92000lkr or 14400f is a little bit cheaper like 78000lkr.. my powersupply is corsair rm750, i'm playing at 1080p 144hz.. what will your advice.. will my b660 motherboard with 6.2.1 vrm can handle the 12th gen i7 or not..

[@dystopia-usa]

Always match CPU performance tier with GPU performance tier or one will bottleneck the other. Also, don't skimp on system RAM & be sure to have 16GB minimum (32GB optimal) in 2024.

[@DerfalS23]

I just upgraded from a 4770k to a 7800x3d now I can play high fps games in 1440p with my 1080. Gonna upgrade my GPU in the near future. But damn, CPU upgrade is really great.

[@rene.s.s]

Glad to see I’m not the only one crazy enough to rock 12TB of NVME. I got 4x 2TB gen4, one of which is limited by gen3 slot. And I have a 4TB SN850x in my gen5 slot until I get a gen5 4TB way down the line. I’ll move the WD and replace the 2s with 4s. Maybe I’ll even splurge on 8s by then.

[@Aaron-hd8ql]

It is all preference. I am still running my amd ryzen 3 3200g and fine with it. All I use it for is surfing the internet and watching KZbin videos. Do I need to upgrade probably. Will I no because it still works fine and with my isp being fast I see no real need to upgrade.

[@a120068020]

Some of those old chips will rise in value as they move into retro computing territory.

[@PRINTHINK]

Where should I go from R5 3600XT?

[@CRF250R1521]

13600k

[@matthewhanson498]

If I bought a 990x in 2011 I wouldn’t feel robbed in any way except that windows 10 doesn’t support it 😢

[@exxor9108]

I can most definitely notice a change with my CPU upgrade early last month. I finally upgraded my Ryzen 3 3300X, to a Ryzen 7 5700X. Difference is night and day to me.

[@jordzkie97]

What's the best cpu upgrade for my ryzen 3 3200G paired with an rx570 4GB @Tech Deals

[@myhybrid09]

Im holding out to see if any new Ryzens come about. If not I'll move from my 1800x to 78003xd :)

[@mickieg1994]

I dont think I'll ever understand the people who are happy to buy a 4090 but think an 8 core CPU is "enough". Like the 4090 was the premium option but so was the mid tier CPU.

[@Loky_8]

it is enough if they are just using it for gaming or browsing the web etc.

[@mickieg1994]

@@Loky_8 you make a conscious decision to pick the best GPU available, spend hundreds Extra on it incase a game might need it, even though most don't at the moment. But oh no, a game is never gonna use more than 8 cores right? So you don't need that. And it's never "just gaming" either , it's windows, the crap in the system tray, anything else you maybe multitasking, all while some of the games you are playing will want more than 8 cores, so why waste the money on something that's genuinely not good enough for all that, something you are guaranteed to need to upgrade sooner, all to save a minimal amount of money, it's a bad decision and a waste of money to knowingly hamstring your pc like that.

[@Loky_8]

@@mickieg1994 honestly I've never had issues with back grounds task running whilst playing games. I play many games that can utilise more then 8 cores just fine no stutters or frame drops all whilst having icue, logitech G hub, hwinfo, msi afterburner, RTSS, Steam, Vortex, Discord and a few tabs open in chrome. Honestly I don't see the issue, I previously had a 12 core CPU and never fully utilised it. 8 Cores is perfectly fine for my use case, i will upgrade again when zen 5 x3d chips release. I was toying with the idea of going with intel but its a dead end platform and id have to upgrade my psu and cooler etc which adds to the cost by quite a bit (UK Prices).

[@williamregal8503]

i have a 3900x with a 3070 only play wwe games @4k on steam until it can't play them smoothly ill keep my build

[@MarsMagnus]

Tech is looking very handsome with short hair. I think he can go even shorter, a proper buzz cut. He'd be a real hunk.

[@SDAnime]

I went from a 2700x to a 5800x3d a few years ago. Love the performance increase I got.

[@theonerm2]

I have a Ryzen 7 5700x and I felt very little difference from my Zen2 3700x. I've had Zen+, Zen2, and Zen3 CPU's so far on my AM4 platform. I was actually really excited for Zen2 but here lately I haven't been so excited for a new CPU.

[@qrsimon]

Hmm you have PCIe 4.0 for the nvme now. That can be an upgrade right?

[@alexsiniov]

going from 4790k to 3950x several years ago was very memorable experience

[@nostrum6410]

i see no reason to upgrade my 12700k any time soon. had a r1700 before that. and the difference is the intel is not a steaming pile of shit

[@sieuzice]

3700x here, but my 16gb ram is struggling :p

[@TechDeals]

Yuck, RAM is cheap, upgrade already! Also, 5700X... $50 give or take to make the switch if you're ok to sell the 3700X.

[@club4ghz]

It shouldn't be struggling in games, multimedia and browsing. I'm perfectly fine with 16gb even when gaming, playing videos and having multiple Edge tabs open on another monitor all at the same time. I disabled all unnecessary crap in Windows 11, my OS use only 3 Gigs after it boots. Using 7 year old 4400 CL19 Kit set to 4000 CL15 and subtimings all tuned with 13600K and RTX 4080.

[@TechDeals]

@@club4ghz If you haven't tried it both ways, you don't actually know it's fine. Way too many viewers have upgraded to 32GB and said, "holy crap, I thought it was fine... it was NOT!"

[@sieuzice]

@@TechDeals That's a very good tip with the 5700X. I'll probably update everything soon, mobo, processor and RAM in a few months to avoid any bottlenecks with 4080

[@BearfootBob]

Hey, did you all hear about the new CPU collaboration between AMD, and the estate of Jim Morrison? They're calling the new chip Mr. Mojo Ryzen.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

It does matter. Honestly have been pricing, contemplating upgrading again 14700K/14900KF. 12900KF 7900XTX raids well last I've tested. 12700K well between raid and discord 1440P, when I heal across the floor there is microstutter after. Even with FSR on, it's still highly a cpu bound situation. Shame because it's a great everyday machine, still casual games well also. Browsing the internet, it matters less though there is a difference in the snappiness of the OS/experience. With media viewing, cpus from the last few years will 4K stutter less.

[@TechDeals]

14700K is a drop in upgrade, sell the current chip, add performance and years to the PC. If I had a daily driver 12th gen, it would have been upgraded already.

[@1stormseekr336]

I 9 with 9900k paired with 3080 ti. Sure i would like to upgrade that cpu, but money in the bank is more important now. lol also there is just not enough games coming out that are forcing me to upgrade my stuff.

[@TechDeals]

Fair, keep rocking it then!

[@gnome-ski]

the phenom ii's were pretty cool, i still have my phenom ii 560 BE dual core, if you had the core unlocker on the motherboard you could unlock it to a quad core if the other cores were good. i unlocked mine but was only able to make it a triple core because the 4th core was unstable.

[@TechDeals]

Ha! The days when overclocking wasn't just clock speed, but BONUS CORES! :) Had the Phenom II come a year sooner, it would have been a smash hit.

[@xSeanok]

AM4 SUPREMACY!!!

[@marcuslind3108]

Im looking to upgrade my ryzen 7 5800x, skipped zen 4 and looking what zen 5 has to offer.

[@TechDeals]

Indeed, Zen 3 to Zen 4 was a "meh" upgrade... Zen 5 looks interesting, we'll know more soon!

[@Fredrik7le]

Cute Couple ❤

[@geovannyarredondo3546]

I would love some help on suggestions for upgrades for my pc. I know it’s old but I have a Ryzen 3 1300x, 8gig ram, b350 motherboard, and an Rx 570 8gig. The pc is mostly for productivity but would like to do light gaming. Any suggestions are welcomed and appreciated!

[@TechDeals]

5700X and add 16GB of RAM for 24GB total Keep the GPU unless you can afford a RX 6600 for under $200

[@geovannyarredondo3546]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@iAmDiBBz]

still planning on going from a 8600k to a 7800x3d. but still waiting for a price drop so its at least bellow £300

[@TechDeals]

Zen 5 is coming in a few months, you're not going to get that until after it's a gen old.

[@iAmDiBBz]

@@TechDeals yea im still waiting to see zen5 and the lineup and whatit has to offer. if zen5 is significantly better but not that much of a cost sink il just change my plans and save for that instead. hopefully taking advantage of higher DDR5 speed.

[@Zeddicus65]

Wait for next zen

[@TheMarineDoctor]

Lump it all together and sell it.

[@lukewalker1051]

As a senior who worked in tech who built two machines 3-4 years ago, one with Ryzen 3 2200G and no GPU and one with Ryzen 5 1600AF with GTX1050 and I don't game, I find little difference between the two machines and no reason to update. Both will sustain Windows 11 which I haven't upgraded to and will at the cut off period next year. Will say that both these builds...I own two PC's for redundancy and in the event one fails and both have been flawless....they were a big step up from my previous AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz computer build which was a big step up from Dell Dimension 8200 of 20 years ago with 40G HDD from the factory...lol. To me, in the future, AI will introduce the biggest reason to upgrade and I don't see any reason to upgrade presently Gaming of course dramatically changes the need to upgrade which many of your younger subscribers do of course.

[@TechDeals]

Of course you don't find a difference, they are the same cores. Both of those are Zen 1. Ryzen 7 5700X dropped into both machines would almost double performance and be an impressive improvement. If you think gaming is the only reason to upgrade, you simply don't understand the difference between them. The boost to Windows responsiveness in general is immense.

[@lukewalker1051]

@@TechDeals Good info about the Ryzen 7. There are many analogies in nature. You seem to put a premium on 'speed' as some kid of end all, be all. More speed mattered 5-10 years ago more than it matters today. The conceot is diminishing return. Speed? Let's talk cars. I am a retired automotive engineer who used computers every day in my job from data processing to computer modeling including all designs were created on 3D CAD using Catia to UG. 10 years ago you could walk into a car dealership and buy a car with 400 hp and maybe 500 hp at peak. Today you can walk into a car dealership and purchase an automobile with 1025hp. Is the 1025 hp automobile which is faster than a 500 hp car perceived as better or more fun? No. Diminishing return. More isn't necessary better if the benefit is imperceptible. The reason your wife updated from Intel to Ryzen is because of what 'you' do for a living. She didn't even need the processing capability of her previous gen Intel. What you are engaging in based upon your response is...and I expected more from you, is shameless promotion of your channel. A reason to exist and stay relevant. Reality is, nobody needs the latest computer tech based upon present processing demand. Will there be a watershed breakthough in the future when AI starts to manifest and permeate society? Yes. AI will require in fact the reinvention of computer processing with much more power and processing capability, AI will be the next industrial revolution and reinvent our society as we know it. That time isn't now, just like the cell phone didn't exist in the 1960's.

[@Krenisphia]

@@TechDeals How dare you promote your channel, Tech! Speaking of "needs", nobody needs a car either. Technology is made to be used, and should there be improvements that help me in any way whatsoever you can be sure I will take it.

[@deviantbuilds]

​@lukewalker1051 so what you are telling me is your one sided opinion is the only truth? If you are happy with slow hardware that's fine if you don't use any more than it's capabilities that's fine as well but not everyone is like that. Some people do use their stuff for work and can't be waiting around for their rig to finish its task, time is money.

[@noahallen5046]

​@@lukewalker1051if you genuinely don't feel a difference between first gen Ryzen and Ryzen 5000 (or even 3000) for what you do, that's fine. But there absolutely is a difference for what I do.

[@MikeNovelli]

Bathtub curve

[@dirtymisfit5852]

Making a new build for my nephew soon, anyone have advice if I should go for a r5 7600 vs 5600?

[@Flyon86]

I guess it comes down to budget, if you'd rather put more money into the cpu with am5 or have more for a gpu. Even going with am4 there's still an upgrade path over the 5600 though since amd has newer cpus like 5700x3d.

[@CRF250R1521]

13600k trust me. Intel more stable.

[@Flyon86]

@@CRF250R1521 isn't that $100 more than the ryzen 5600 right now? I don't think that's the price range they're looking for.

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

@@Flyon86 omg dude the 5600 is a slow 6 core okay i mean not slow but compared to the 13600k 14 core midrange best cmon, thats even worth more then 100$ bro dude the 13600 slashes the 5600/X and G in half ^^

[@Flyon86]

@@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz 5600x is only one gen behind, if you play in 1440p or 4k then even a 4080 won't see a huge improvement going from a 5600 to 7600 for most games.

[@simonebaraldi9440]

wow, the FX vendors were hard coping about their value

[@Ogk10]

3770K gang

[@TechDeals]

Everyone needs a retro PC! :)

[@curtis.albrecht.79]

I recently built an i7-4790K system w/32GB of 2400Mhz RAM, and a Samsung 970 EVO NVME, just for grins & giggles. Overclocked to 4.7Ghz paired with a 1080Ti, it's suprisingly good... for a 4th Gen system.

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

@@curtis.albrecht.79 sadly a 7820X/ a 3800X with a 1080ti performs massively better, cuz the 1080ti can push games that a 4790k wouldnt but other then that its quiert dope system cuz it uses loved parts :D

[@curtis.albrecht.79]

@@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz Well... Yea... 7th Gen (8C/16T) chips running on DDR4 from 2017 and 2019 respectively, are obviously better than a 4th Gen (4C/8T) chip running on DDR3 from 2014. In my case, I paid $60 for a **BRAND NEW** (still sealed in the antistatic bag) Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK motherboard. I was selling 16GB (2x8GB) 1866Mhz DDR3 RAM. The guy who was buying it mentioned that he had it. I couldn't resist. I "HAD" to have it!!! If it wasn't literally brand new, I may have offered him $45 for it. But, an i7-4790K w/32GB (4x8GB) Corsair 2,400Mhz DDR3 RAM, and a 50GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME makes for a kick ass little system. The MB is BLACK, with GOLD accents. And, the Corsair RAM is BLACK, with GOLD accents. At the moment, I'm trying to save up for 6-120mm ARGB fans, so that I can lock them in on the color YELLOW. I've got other MUCH faster computers. But, this one is very quickly becoming my favorite.

[@parkerhero8279]

I have a i7 6700k Skylake. Is it time for me ?

[@Ladioz]

I had an i7 8700k last year... and it was very time for me. So I can't imagine how much time it is for you to upgrade. But it depends what you do? If it's just youtube, some casual games (valorant, league, fortnite) and you cant afford it.... i would say don't bother. However if you will ever try to play modern new games like the cpu will hold you back

[@Fluffyguy958]

If it works for what you do I guess it's fine but realistically it was time for an upgrade years ago

[@TechDeals]

To quote another reply here..;. "it was time for an upgrade years ago"

[@club4ghz]

You don't have to upgrade if you use potato GPU

[@dianaalyssa8726]

It would be noticeable. The smoothness of the OS and less in-game stutter/media stutter if you watch higher resolutions. If it's doing what you want you don't have to. 12th-14th/AM5 would be a huge difference I imagine. Both 12700KF & 12900KF were a nice improvement on my 6th & 9th gens (granted I had i5s, 4 cores and 6 cores 9600k). Having more cores and snappier IPC really is like driving a better car daily. Though if it's just casual web surfing both are fine. It would feel noticeable when you hit the desktop and everything is just snappier though.