PC Upgrade NOW or WAIT? - Tech Deals

[@princesspineapple9239]

Black Friday without tech deals, sucks. We need you back

[@adde969]

yea

[@ChildofLight777]

Problem is there's hardly been anymore deals for half a decade. The whole world is nickel and diming each other to literally death.

[@daniil3815]

where is he? something happened? its been a while

[@VagranT999]

​@@daniil3815 they don't do videos anymore, and maybe they won't return.. Tech most probably got a job, he has a family to feed and support. They didn't make good profits from the channel and I think they made a bad investment in crypto. I hope I'm wrong but they won't return soon for sure :/

[@moonboimods]

I hope you guys are ok! I really wish you could make a video telling us where you went and what happened. I genuinely am worried about you guys and hope you are all well. I watched you guys since like 2016 and i really appreciate all the hard work and time you put into your videos. I learned so much from you and really miss watching you guys live. Please let us know, also over on reddit alot of people are worried about you guys too on the pcmr subreddit. thanks for the many years of unique and informative content.

[@jrogerss8616]

We really miss you and hope you are well.

[@jamesmendoza4789]

Same here really enjoyed them and learned a lot. The personalities and the life advice

[@QuBitGaming]

@@moonboimods I wonder what’s going on. All their tweets are deleted too.

[@AceVenturaXii]

Im sure they're fine. Just because they dont make videos for KZbin doesnt mean something is wrong. Maybe something is finally right for them and it doesnt involve making videos. I thought they blocked me on Twitter since I wasnt seeing their Tweets any longer, I asked him about it and he responded saying Nope they were just stepping back from Twitter. Im sure they're ok, though I would like to know what changed for them to quit KZbin and Twitter.

[@stevetech1949]

Regardless, a short video would set us at ease

[@mtcoiner7994]

Where did you go Tech Team?!? We miss you!

[@andrewquinn5946]

Hope all is ok guys

[@rurouniad]

Have we heard anything?

[@janajackie]

Missing you guys from india. Come back soon.

[@2buckgeo843]

@@rurouniad did he get a job ?

[@rurouniad]

@@2buckgeo843 no idea none

[@ppevader-u2t]

He messed up his channel by doing nothing but these. When he started he was so much better His dumb wife hurt him. Also Hardware Unbox ruined him when he called out his BS on twitter. I figure he got caught screwing that hot young thing he hired and got divorced

[@ferrumregit4252]

Just felt led to stop by and say I really miss this channel. I check regularly for the channel to resurface.

[@wertigon]

Hey Tech Deals! Looks like you guys are taking a well deserved break from KZbin, hopefully not permanent. It's ok, life happens sometimes, we all need to sit down and smell the roses. I would like an update to the channel, but stay healthy, stay safe, and keep the fun going! Maybe this is just a big summer break. :) Song of the day: My Monkey from Jonathan Coulton

[@tupchurch]

They are dead, no other reason to stop responding

[@Phantom8Bit]

I thought the algorithm was just hiding your videos till I looked up your channel. :(

[@aaz1992]

Really miss you guys. Please come back. I need Papa Deals in my life!

[@zingwilder9989]

Something tells me that this gentleman just got tired of the KZbin grind. He's brilliant and can work as an IT professional, anywhere. He (and his wife) were always a pleasure to watch. I wish them the absolute best always!

[@jonahcalahasen2249]

@@ChosenOneDan how did he kill it? What did his community want, and what did he do instead?

[@SyncF]

@@jonahcalahasen2249 The other person removed their comment, but truth be told, TechDeals did EVERYTHING to avoid killing the channel, in fact he tried very hard, I suspect he left because it was too much money invested VS returns, which would make sense looking at views alone, sadly KZbin is too competitive nowadays. The new ppl coming with tech channels are on a different level of production value, which, for him probably wasn't worth it. Whatever the other guy said, he's not only wrong, but downright ill willed lol. TD did absolutely everything in his power to keep the channel alive, I wish it had worked. New content type, new thumbnails, they tried repositioning, they tried podcasts, but sadly when you shift so much most audience just leaves. But I wish we'd have known why at least... Liked his videos and thought the family type deal was wholesome.

[@ppevader-u2t]

He killed it when he started doing these little vids with his wife and that was all the channel was for a very long time.

[@rdoc]

Tech and family, Let us know how you are? We are all a bit worried. Been a long time.

[@explore4938]

I'm sad all of his live streams were taken down. I was gonna go back and watch a few since I missed him live streaming and found out they are no longer available. I hope everything is ok with tech and his family. They will be in my prayers.

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

Getting back into IT stuff having to renew certifications and wanted to check on your channel only to find out that you have left for greener pastures. Hope all is well and I would love a one off unscripted here’s how we’re doing video. Weird to take down the live streams, which I’m sure others would want to go back and rewatch too with some great concepts that could be generalized to newer hardware. Thank you for what you have contributed to the Tech community, good luck and stay safe.

[@snypa-ck7hn]

HEY, what the heck. i was just thinking back and remembered watching you every year for black friday. 7 months? i know that people stopped spending money and the market slowed down but mate we missed you this year.

[@danmorrow9029]

Please let us know what happened to you. We miss you. The community is worried.

[@f3rns]

Let’s see what happens first, me updating my Phenom II pc or techs resurrection.

[@Edge7679]

I know it's been said but I hope all is well. Never seen you guys go this long without a video. I believe I have been following you all since 2020. I hope it's just some well deserved rest or something. Best wishes!

[@CyberClu]

As everyone else has said, hope everything is alright with you and the family. Been watching your humorous and well informed videos since 2015, and even going back further when researching old used PC parts I've bought to see your take on them. Best wishes and Two Gold Stars!

[@tonycheung1559]

hope everything is fine

[@ChillasFelipe]

Hey tech deals. I remember watching you at 15 and helped me get my first pc, hope youre doing good cheers!

[@RohitJuyal-kj2lp]

Hope you are fine. I understand you were honest which makes things hard to survive in this industry. But thanks for your channel learnt a lot from you.

[@kramnull8962]

The big question will be, will zen5 actually be performing correctly before black friday.

[@litebkt]

I've been in the business since there was a PC business (even before that). I would have driven myself nuts had I worried about when stuff released. My standard has always been to upgrade when I need to. There is always a better deal coming down the road.

[@LiveFreeOrRIP]

I MISS YOU GUYS!! You just helped me in a past video and I was wondering why i havent seen you guys in a while. I 100% UNDERSTAND KZbin folks need a break sometimes a LONG break but I hope everything is ok and you guys update us

[@knowyourjoe8826]

Just wanted to say that I sincerely hope everything is going ok with y'all. Picked up Win 10 with your link. Thanks for all the info and best wishes for y'all.

[@MrMarbles]

where's bro? did he build his bunker and dissapeared?

[@jacobnix6691]

Tech, I hope you and the fam are doing good! Thank you for everything you have taught me, I have learned so much from you. I miss my FAVORITE creator (badly)! I hope you all come back soon!

[@caelanb1711]

Anyone know where they're at? I only recently realized I hadn't seen a video pop up in my sub feed from them in months.

[@Jinny-Wa]

I didn't get any video recommendations from this channel in like a half a decade. Seems that many did not and KZbin algo doesn't like them. Hence such low views compared to the amount of subs he has

[@bauer9101]

Tech is actually a Sith Lord. He is just biding his time before he makes a return.

[@Djeafskie]

Where is Tech Deals? He was the reason I built my first gaming PC back in 2020. I’m here checking because I’m planning to upgrade my PC now, but there haven’t been any uploads in the past seven months. What happened to Tech Deals?

[@chatchainaplaserd8351]

Guess you are too much of a fool to bother to read all the comments and do a simple gooogle search. There is a huge thread on RED IT about the 1000 videos taken down and all the legal battles as to why this happened. The show is over fools of the world well as i just said this is a positve thing i barely even check tech reviews now as 5%-10% increases in real performance year after year you will not even notice the difference.

[@davillain9974]

Good does nothing to give an actual answer and you didn't need to be a jerk just because someone is asking what happened to Tech Deals. It's people like you as to why the Internet is shit! But nevertheless, thank you for the insight. (I give credit when it is due)

[@Act1veSp1n]

Hopefully you guys are alright. Miss yall.

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

sometimes it can be hard to decide, but in the meantime, you can always upgrade your thermal paste and get immediate performance while you think about it. I recommend at least 24GB's of thermal paste. I did and I got at least another 15HP and 22lbs TQ.

[@pascaldifolco4611]

You mean you should eat thermal paste at breakfast ? Brush your teeth with it ?? ^^

[@Kitten_Party]

Where can I download thermal paste?

[@Adri9570]

does AMD thermal paste glow less due to the lower RT performance?

[@daniil3815]

This channel operates at a weird schedule. 1. taking month off 2. creating tons of clips from month old stream 3. do several streams in a row Cycle repeats. That’s the only tech channel that does this 😂.

[@kramnull8962]

Keeping everyone busy in the family.

[@daniels2761]

Tech cares about providing good info and doesn't fill videos with fat like a lot of channels. Just my opinion.

[@charliewilson85]

That was 7 months ago. Something major happened.

[@daniil3815]

@@charliewilson85 yeah, what happened? Tech disappeared.

[@joshmarvz]

you really helped me build my pc last 2016.. now im back watching for my next build but it seems your channel is inactive.. hope you upload new videos soon..

[@norie3096]

Upgrade or wait. I have been asking myself the question since 1999 ;-). Kidding. But true that in the past, I used to think like that.

[@sezwo5774]

Wait a few years! If you are around 55 years old chances become real and dramatically rise with time that your new computer might be your last one. If you keep your machine 8-10 years chances are actuarially 10-15 percent and rise a percentage or so per year that it will be your last. If you are an avid gamer but your favourite game is for example Chess a new machine might not be that urgent.

[@norie3096]

@@sezwo5774 it all depends of the games you are playing. If it's 2024 triple A game, you need a recent build. If it's to play StarCraft 2, it's ok even with a 10 years old config

[@sezwo5774]

@@norie3096 True, but I've yet to see anyone past 50 interested in playing triple A 2024 games. Tech Deals likes to argue financial sense over TIME in investing in a more expensive machine but ignores the fact that for people past 50 or so and who like most of similar age tend to keep their machines longer financial calculations must also take into account the chances, statistical probability, that one is investing in his/her last machine. Pouring too much money may make less sense. Delaying purchase may also be a more optimistic and hopeful course of action! Read: "My likely last computer will not be a 14Gen but an Arrow Lake or even something better." I hope you understand this logic. If you are past age 50 chances are 10-15 percent your new computer will be your last.

[@Haywood-Jablomie]

I wish they would post a video and tell us if the channel is dead

[@nicksterba]

Later this year will be so interesting honestly. RTX 5000 series, Battlemage, Ryzen 9000 series....I don't need a new CPU atm but a new GPU would be nice. Really crossing my fingers that Intel comes out with a kickass flagship for ARC. I would love for Nvidia to give us more performance, more VRAM and better prices, but I think we all know that just isn't happening.

[@e.rodriguez3136]

Tim Tams are for sale at Sam's Club in Florida!!! Miss you guys!!!

[@riba2233]

yo, what happened to your channeI?

[@CRF250R1521]

miss this channel man, please come back!

[@agustinusalvinwicaksono]

do someone knows what happen to the person on this KZbin channel? its been 5 months inactive.

[@Jasepo]

What happened with them? I Just remembered him and it's weird he just stopped 7mo ago

[@MattKurkowski]

Primeday and no livestream. What's going on?

[@lukebornemann9556]

Black Friday stream ?

[@studydude]

I bit the bullet, upgraded from a 3770k, 1080 GTX system I built in 2012. I got the exact same 12700kf you recommended, paired with a Gigabyte Z790 D AC motherboard, the motherboard was 185.99 but is a newer motherboard from 2024, also got picked up an RTX 3080 Founders Edition from a Friend along with an 850 watt power supply. After selling my old hardware and redeeming credit card points from Amazon, I am sitting just under 700 into the full rebuild. Picked up a few other extras in that price as well.

[@palamidagheo4520]

wonder what happened, he went 70-80k views to 5-7 k and now stopped streaming. probably not worth it anymore

[@oriontechtips1980]

Hello Tech Deals, I just noticed you removed all of the member exclusive videos and haven’t posted for four months. This channel remains one of my favorites. If not my favourite computer KZbin channel I really hope you guys are doing OK.

[@ชาติชายนาประเสริฐ]

go cry yourself to sleep its over clueless wonder time you moved on with your life as so has the channel host

[@angelcosme3002]

Hope you and your family are okay. Our prayers are with you.

[@Sleepingvampires]

I am one of those people with a thirteen year old sandy bridge computer, as my everyday computer. I did build a gaming computer and shared it with my partner eight years ago. I just built a new computer on the AM5 socket, because it had became too painful to use my everyday computer and my partner had taken over the gaming computer, because his computer was just as old. For playing old games they were really good enough, which is what we mostly play, but the bloat of time made everyday tasks harder. I just couldn't bring myself to build with Intel at this time knowing they are going to a new socket, so I picked a lower end AMD chip and will upgrade it when they move on to a new socket. The every day pain became too great for me to wait longer. I am looking forward to playing high end games again.

[@joyfulcalleb4186]

Hoping you guys are ok, Wishing you all the best.

[@spaznetwork6982]

I thought i was missing videos on KZbin apparently not. Hope you guys are well!

[@moon55555]

Hope everything is ok. miss you guys!

[@kristof6372]

Lol I got from 3770k to 12600K (early 2023). That doesn't mean I didn't have the money. The technical advancement was just very sub-optimal, so I just didn't want to spent the money. Why should I have upgraded. There was really no reason as the machine at that time already had 8 GB.

[@MarcusRHarden]

After upping my laptop to 32 GB RAM and the desktop to 64GB RAM & let my system breathe; literally couldn't be happier. Haven't seen a BSOD or had a game crash since; no not an FPS game changer but stability and uptime, my machines only need to reboot for the routine updates. THANKS, TECH !!!

[@jordzkie97]

The only thing that I need an upgrade is my CPU which is the ryzen 3 3200G paired with an rx 570 4GB, Is it worth it to upgrade now or wait a little longer for a worth it new Ryzen along the way

[@dianaalyssa8726]

5700X or wait, it's a weird predicament with new chips still being released.

[@charackthe]

It is not simply a matter of upgrade or wait either. Even if you decide to upgrade it is "should I buy the newest gen or the latest one which is cheaper and like 1-2% worse in performance."

[@macster1878]

Looking forward to the big comeback guys....

[@XFXGX]

@@ChosenOneDan what was the discord drama?

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

Between discord drama at all, removing the members only videos and live streams, combined with locking down the Twitter are not signs of anything good. I do pray everything works out eventually.

[@TechSid-hn6eg]

where did Tech Deals go? whats going on ?

[@rahulk2145]

Hope you guys are okay. Have missed your video’s

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

i dont know either really missed them, good gawd ive made a few best offs off thm with sadly a few clips in there that there full vids now deleted, otherwise theres no new TechDeal stuff out there :/

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

The fact that the Twitter was also locked down is also not a good sign. I pray everything works out all right.

[@Jackjack1978.]

Dang, I miss these guys. Please don't be gone :(

[@SDAnime]

I'm sticking with my 5800x3d.

[@jayabsher4498]

Likewise here may just upgrade the gpu

[@TechSid-hn6eg]

makes sense, i guess your next upgrade must be in new socket

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

After upgrading GPU AM4 is showing no signs of needing an upgrade.

[@ghostshadow9046]

not sure about upgrading now or waiting, look at prices of things, bought new car tires April 2, 2 weeks later prices had increased $16 each. couple months ago bought NVMe for $86 now it is $129

[@chuethao385]

Upgrading from i5 8400 budget 1500 should I wait for arrow lake or get am5?

[@MrAnimescrazy]

I would get am5.

[@andrysuryadi]

Instead of intel, just move to amd platform, more flexible upgrade compability for next gen forward imho You can save your budget for your mobo instead of full of set Or maybe wait until whole system of ram slot position change, so you can save your mobo budget

[@floycewhite6991]

It's a gamble buying top-of-the-line tech. It worked out for buyers of 9900K. Not so much for 14900K.

[@jrose-xp6tf]

My 10900K 11900K and 12900K would beg to differ.

[@xpodx]

Miss you guys.. i was wondering why i haven't seen any new videos of you guys on my feed. Hope all is well. Post a video soon

[@Ultrajamz]

As a 7700x owner I am waiting for the last AM5 chips (10000’s?) before upgrading. I guess unless the 9000’s knock my socks off.

[@Tantemify]

i am guessing he got tired and needed a break, probably the channel is not earning enough too

[@barados2006]

I still have one of these on my second computer which my wife uses, but she doesn't do anything else than look at facebook, edge and emails. So what is the point of upgrading at this moment.

[@Bensogamingmods]

bro,7 months since last upload black friday without tech deals , sucks .hope all is well with you

[@JosiahTT]

where did yall go??

[@christ3187]

Today I thought man it's been a while since I've seen a Tech Deals video. Hope all is well!

[@lawtownonline]

Where did these guys go? Is there going to be anything out for Black Friday 2024?

[@explore4938]

I thought surely he'd come out of hiding for black friday lol

[@chatchainaplaserd8351]

@@explore4938 Well you thought wrong and should be held accountable for you thoughts.

[@explore4938]

@@chatchainaplaserd8351 lol what came out of your asshole this morning? And english please

[@xSeanok]

I came from Core2duo, then i7 3770k, then R7 5700x itx build last Nov 2022. I decided to upgraded to 5800x3D this March 2024 and rebuilt my 5700x to serve as my 2nd rig. I still went for AM4 platform because going to AM5 will cost me more here in my country. Next platform upgrade will be on 2030, for me.

[@isaacmiller8833]

I just got a used 3080 for $350 upgrading the 1080ti hopefully last me the next few years. I don't really play all the latest games.

[@johntamch]

Followed u guys from 2017. Hope u guys are okay.

[@thecman26]

Fwiw, I just got an i9 12900k, mobo, and 32gb of ram for $299 @ microcenter. They're just flying off the shelves!

[@jeremyz6911]

399 here was thinking the same. How'd you get 100 off?

[@Krenisphia]

That's a nice combo. I wish they expanded outside the USA, that would be a dream.

[@shabpnd481]

What happen to this guy no new video since 3 month ago are they doing another thing?

[@subhajitchatterjee9688]

Is this channel dead??? Zen 5 has released and Intel just announced its Core Ultra 200 Series desktop and they havent made any videos.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

I have 12600k/rx6800/3070 and was thinking about what an upgrade path could be but I can still play at 1440p high settings 60+fps in pretty much any game even without upscaling, so upgrading is actually pointless

[@0utsiderkrypt0w54]

Such an important time with Intel 13900k and 14900k problems and AMD releasing their Zen 5 9000x CPU series. I fear something bad has happened not sure if Tech would just leave without saying anything.

[@CyberClu]

I'm hoping it's just that all his 13th and 14th Gen CPU's crashed his entire video editing setups. Time to RMA!

[@deedeemerry1295]

@@CyberClu 14th gen is not affected...

[@CyberClu]

@@deedeemerry1295How have you been watching all the tech news from KZbin and the internet in general, and come to the conclusion that 14th gen isn't affected?

[@CyberClu]

@@deedeemerry1295 How have you been watching all the tech news from KZbin and the Internet in general, and come to the conclusion that 14th Gen isn't affected?

[@CRF250R1521]

@@CyberClu intel 13th and 14gen problems are overblown, especially here on youtube. content creators need to make videos on something so they keep overblowing every little thing, it gets clicks.

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

I'm using a 9900k @ 5hz with 4070. ti super. Does basic video editing and 1440p gaming on ultra.

[@TechShanty]

Hope you guys are doing well during your break!! We miss you tech and rogue!

[@MyRkAcc]

Upgraded my R5 2600 to a 5600 and put in 3200 mhz 32gb ram as well this week. Im pretty happy with that and my 6600xt oc'd and undervolted a bit.

[@omarali6651]

Upgraded from an i7 8700k to a ryzen 7700x. Wow upgrade if I use it like a console but using it like a pc it's better but more cores would be noticeably better

[@viranimediakenya3272]

Hope all is well, team. Miss you, my peeps.

[@5MAtRixX5]

Recently build new PC. Very happy for the next 3-4 years CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D GPU: ASUS RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL 12 GB RAM: G. Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB, 2x16GB 6000Mhz, CL30 - DDR5 M2 Nvme #1: Samsung 1 TB 990 Pro M2 Nvme #2: Kingston 1 TB, NV2 MOBO: Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX PSU: Corsair 80 PLUS Gold, RM850X CPU C: Artic Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB (Black) OS: Win 11 Pro CASE: Be Quiet! Midi Tower Pure Base Black 500DX

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

whyyy? and NOOO youre not gonna be happy for that long, wrong GPU for the 7800x3d you you bought a more expensy 7800X non3d cuz with that card you will never see the 3d kicking in and 4 years on a 4070ti? realy? maybe in 720p ^^ rest of the systems dope other then the B board, YUCK! unbalanced af but all things asside i hope you have a blasty :)

[@5MAtRixX5]

@@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz I'm very happy

[@neti_neti_]

3:31 Can the upcoming Intel 15900k processor potentially replicate the success and impact of the Sandy Bridge microarchitecture, or would it be more prudent to opt for the AMD Zen5 R9 processor based on the 3nm process technology?

[@dantheman7357]

Hi Tech and Rogue, watching this video again made me remember how much I miss you two [and family]. I just pray that all is well and that you are just busy doing things other than making Computer videos for us. Please either come back soon or else slip us a "heads-up" about how you are. .

[@Arejen03]

i swapped 5 2600 to 5 5600x and 1060 to 3060 12GB, i dont think its worth to wait for these parts to get cheaper

[@pow1983]

X299 was my last favourite intel platform. That was a beast! I demoted my X299 system into my storage server. I couldn't part with it

[@TimPageC]

I think what you mean is don’t pay full price for the old stuff when new stuff is coming soon- wait for the “old” stuff to go on sale. If the new one is 20% better then the old one is only a good deal if it costs more than 20% less.

[@reeeee3398]

i got 32gb ddr5 at 4800 back in the day for 200€‎ and i feel sad that its so cheap now

[@809nel]

im still on 8700k/RTX3070, Warzone cheats killed the vibes to even care to upgrade anymore. I think many will update when things start to fail lol.

[@simonebaraldi9440]

Will you unlock your twitter in the future? I usually look at your posts but i cant anymore

[@johnt5258]

I went from an Intel i7 7700k to an i7 12700k when Alderlake came out and I most certainly noticed a MASSIVE difference in performance , I sold my I7 7700k computer and used the money towards buying a new computer as soon as Alderlake came out , not once did I regret that upgrade it was HUGE !!!! to say the least :)

[@robicelus]

a HUGE waste of money.

[@mr.rainbowlovescoffee]

I have the AMD Ryzen CPU 7800x3d 32g ram RTX 4070ti super so I will not upgrade this year. I'll probably wait three more years until I upgrade.

[@DeSuaveOG]

I have a similar build but with a 4080 siper. Definitely will not upgrade til 10800x3d and 6080 super lol

[@Oliver-sn4be]

​@@DeSuaveOG11000 the 10000 is not for pc

[@DarkCosmos-si3ko]

PS5 pro gonna be like a 5090

[@TheRealtalk617]

I hope you guys are doing well. Its Black Friday and you guys came to mind.

[@daniels2761]

I have a 1700X and this video has been a great watch, thank you for putting it together. Microcenter still has some combo deals that have me thinking about it (ex, 7700X).

[@Himmelswolf1]

We miss you ,I hope you're ok ,... the new products are disappointing so then they don't deserve a review .

[@maxkrug2000]

I bought 3900x back then on launch and waiting for 9800X3D to replace it, along with a 5080. Till then I can play on GeforceNOW if I must.

[@get2choppa]

Kinda hope the 9950x has a 3d version where one of the chiplets has more than 8 cores

[@daves8718]

you will probably see both with 3d cache will be more expensive though for sure . if they don't it will be the usual 8 with 8 without but inbuilt scheduler

[@Bachian278]

Most likely not. However zen 6 will be the big one. There are multiple leaks hinting at 16 core ccx. I am assuming ryzen 5 will be 8-10 cores, ryzen 7 will be the full 16 cores and r9 24 cores and r950x 32 cores between 2 connected ccx. So I'm not that hyped for zen 5 due to how amazing zen 6 will be, I think people who upgraded to zen 5 will feel serious buyers remorse when 6 drops. 16 core ccd r7 10800x3d is gonna be crazy, serious endgame material, hope intel can stay competitive vs that.