Crack REMOVES Denuvo. Do Assassin's Creed Origins and Batman Arkham knight perform better?

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Overlord Gaming

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@OverlordGaming
@OverlordGaming 5 жыл бұрын
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@ynk69
@ynk69 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to test UWP impact on performance, and talk about the new cracked games using UWP, like Forza Horizon 4.
@hypermatrix8999
@hypermatrix8999 5 жыл бұрын
The test at the end of clearly biased. If you look at the afterburner stats in the UWP vs. Denuvo test, you'll see something the reviewer intentionally left out from mentioning. UWP used roughly 20% less GPU power compared to Denuvo. A rep from Microsoft stated on Twitter last year that they were fully committed to helping fight global warming, as it is an existential threat to the future of our planet and the survival of the human species. Why does this reviewer hate our planet? Anyone can increase power usage to increase performance. But it takes a company truly dedicated to environmental stewardship to lower power usage by lowering performance. The human eye can't see beyond 30fps anyway. Please report video for banning. /s
@cataria3903
@cataria3903 5 жыл бұрын
can u please do a test of at least ac origins with disabling half the cores of 3700x, preferably also disabling smt and lock clockspeed to 4 ghz or sth. this would simulate a decent quadcore and would likely show a difference if the game is cpu bottlenecked like ac origins would be with 4 cores without smt. testing with a simulated quadcore would be HUGELY interesting for the other games too, and i would see this way more important than retesting previous benchmarks with the new hardware. it would also be interesting to lower memory bandwidth/speed alongside to see if denuvo requires quite some higher bandwidth and how it effects the game. either way please do testing with simulated decent or super value hardware. 3700x chips are rare for people to have and people with those are the least effected by the dark evil DRM denuvo :)
@simonhellberg2507
@simonhellberg2507 5 жыл бұрын
You should retest the game at very low graphical settings with reduced resolution. It is very likely that you are GPU bound, thus masking the CPU performance cost of denouvo.
@cataria3903
@cataria3903 5 жыл бұрын
@simon hellberg a better way to test is to massively lower cpu performance, like restricting the cpu 4 cores with SMT disabled and locking it to 3.5 ghz. maybe also lowering memory speed along side it. if denuvo's cpu eating performance is fixed cutting cpu performance to 3/8 or less will be more likely to show the denuvo tax, because the percentage, that denuvo uses of the full cpu is MUCH higher and the game itself will be cpu bottle necked at that point with the 1080ti, that was used in the benchmarks.
@senjusan6359
@senjusan6359 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, in the past Pirates were stealing goods and their quality could be shit due to mishandling. Nowadays pirates improve stolen goods and you can expect better quality than from producer.
@MaseraSteve2
@MaseraSteve2 5 жыл бұрын
That's actually not far off considering old pirated games usually already come with mods too and without giving player massive headache
@IchOdaNich
@IchOdaNich 5 жыл бұрын
"stolen"
@janedoe4929
@janedoe4929 5 жыл бұрын
@@IchOdaNich He's talking about actual pirates on boats having shoddy stolen goods compared to modern pirates having better, copied versions.
@christopherdsuza7531
@christopherdsuza7531 5 жыл бұрын
@SpyengoEen Yes, also it's taking up hard drive space on my dime. These mfers expect us to front the cost for what is arguable a worse experience, puhleeze.
@stephenmeinhold5452
@stephenmeinhold5452 5 жыл бұрын
sadly this is very true it shouldn't be but it is.
@guldukat1354
@guldukat1354 5 жыл бұрын
i mean witcher 3 launched with no drm's and was the most sold game on steam that year
@rage9715
@rage9715 5 жыл бұрын
being a good game helps a little you know
@Dribbleondo
@Dribbleondo 5 жыл бұрын
Because it was a good game? This has nothing to do with DRM.
@rage9715
@rage9715 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dribbleondo Name a better game with DRM I'll wait.....
@Dribbleondo
@Dribbleondo 5 жыл бұрын
​@@rage9715 Hitman 2. That uses Steam DRM, and for a time, used Denuvo too. That's a fantastic game.
@mariansony91
@mariansony91 5 жыл бұрын
lmao hitman 2....good joke...
@terbentur2943
@terbentur2943 5 жыл бұрын
It's really disgusting how crap like this is kept in products even after the cracking...
@rage9715
@rage9715 5 жыл бұрын
Lazy devs
@unocualqu1era
@unocualqu1era 5 жыл бұрын
Even worse, it's kept on games that are no longer supported instead of launching a last patch that removes DRM
@rage9715
@rage9715 5 жыл бұрын
@@unocualqu1era paying for a game that can no longer be supported is why this shit keeps happening. All my n64/snes games work
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 5 жыл бұрын
If it makes the company a single extra dollar, of course they keep it. Money is literally the ONLY thing that matters to a company.
@unocualqu1era
@unocualqu1era 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a company also make money by being nice to their customers, thus improving loyalty and mouth to mouth? It seems like that is an alien concept for them Except for GoG and CD Projekt
@jangelelcangry
@jangelelcangry 5 жыл бұрын
Unprotected .EXE? more like disinfected .EXE.
@Na0uta
@Na0uta 5 жыл бұрын
shame larger gaming journalist won't get around to covering this kind of thing.
@rage9715
@rage9715 5 жыл бұрын
why would they - they will never receive review copies.
@sihledotcom
@sihledotcom 5 жыл бұрын
A video like this could actually lose a lot of devs some sales... and considering IGN, Gamespot etc are on their payroll, they will have none of it!
@J0derVIVIVI
@J0derVIVIVI 5 жыл бұрын
Access, Shill, Insane media WILL never touch stuff like this. The one time i may be wrong is to paint this as "Bad" somehow.
@ShovelShovel
@ShovelShovel 5 жыл бұрын
They're too busy writing about games being sexist or not being inclusive enough
@HalfLifeHalfDead
@HalfLifeHalfDead 5 жыл бұрын
@Verwoester Kotaku has also done some of the best investigative video game journalism the video game industry has ever seen, mostly coming from the legendary Jason Schreier. What you said is wrong, disingenuous and incredibly shitty and dismissive of the hard work they have done over the years. They cracked the story on Anthem's troubled development. They cracked the story first on the laoyffs in Activision Blizzard or ArenaNet. They were the first to cover the toxic work environment in companies like Treyarch or Rockstar. Because of stuff like this they have been blacklisted by multiple publishers and do not receive review copies from them, and haven't for years. Not journalism my ass.
@mariolis
@mariolis 5 жыл бұрын
Why do companies keep denuvo in their games even AFTER their games have been cracked ? It makes no sense to keep it
@vincentas1
@vincentas1 5 жыл бұрын
mariolis1000 stops more crack releases
@rage9715
@rage9715 5 жыл бұрын
Why do companies use a program that impacts legitimate ends users - we will never know.
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 5 жыл бұрын
It still protects updated versions (some patches may be significant enough to justify a purchase for some) and DLC that is released later. There are some reasons i guess... and i hate it. What i do not understand is when they release a game without Denuvo on another storefront (Mad Max on Origin, Arkham Knight on EGS) and do not patch it out of the Steam version, why the fuck are these customers not treated the same?
@OverlordGaming
@OverlordGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Boy do I have the video for you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2jCiIeppqZ8fMk
@APACA
@APACA 5 жыл бұрын
@@rage9715 Because it doesnt
@Pr0fila
@Pr0fila 5 жыл бұрын
Huge Respect for CODEX, that work, while not particularly difficult to program must have been analy precise
@unocualqu1era
@unocualqu1era 5 жыл бұрын
Love that they changed the version in the menu to "1.52 Hacked" instead of 1.51. It could easily be considered an unofficial performance patch
@suyashbhagwat5615
@suyashbhagwat5615 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing these guys are doing this instead of Official producers of the game. What a strange world we live in.
@レインレイン
@レインレイン 5 жыл бұрын
@@suyashbhagwat5615 most of them doing it for hobbies
@suyashbhagwat5615
@suyashbhagwat5615 5 жыл бұрын
@@レインレイン I still appreciate it though.
@MoridaFanadier
@MoridaFanadier 5 жыл бұрын
@@レインレイン ye, official producers has hobby that includes ripping their player off.
@sashen6678
@sashen6678 5 жыл бұрын
WTF?! Ubisoft is still insisting that 30 FPS is acceptable on pc?
@JustOneGuy
@JustOneGuy 5 жыл бұрын
that's considered too high, you need that low 24 for the cinematic experience
@0A01amir
@0A01amir 5 жыл бұрын
No, they are insisting 30fps with shit frame times and loads of stutters is acceptable on pc.
@huldu
@huldu 5 жыл бұрын
They're just lazy and looking at the "average" consumer. For them every extra hour spent on adding a feature is time that could be spent creating new micro-transactions.
@DarkPhychic
@DarkPhychic 5 жыл бұрын
144 fps should be the new standard and 240fps for high End PC's,those PC gamer's who still consider 60fps deserve to be shot
@emperorfaiz
@emperorfaiz 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarkPhychic Edgy.
@Carlton_Banks
@Carlton_Banks 5 жыл бұрын
Most cracking groups just bypass (or release breached versions) of the protected versions, meanwhile, this is the 1st attempt of actually REMOVING the protections, so major kudos to CODEX.
@stoicvampirepig6063
@stoicvampirepig6063 5 жыл бұрын
Just repeating stuff you heard in videos on the the comment section of said video is fine...
@minuteworld7027
@minuteworld7027 5 жыл бұрын
how did they do it though?
@noobslayer9291
@noobslayer9291 5 жыл бұрын
@@minuteworld7027 manually just needs time a lottt of it, trial and error and heADACHE
@nemanjavozarevic1588
@nemanjavozarevic1588 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate do they have a website?Can you send me the link?Ty in advance.
@squeakersthegryphon5338
@squeakersthegryphon5338 5 жыл бұрын
Denuvo can't be bypassed other way. It must be removed or faked.
@prem3548
@prem3548 5 жыл бұрын
This is just depression to watch. A pirated version is better than the paid version.
@christopherdsuza7531
@christopherdsuza7531 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is depressing that these companies don't share the same level of consideration and dedication to improving their games like some of these hackers. You can really see the level of detail with regards to going the extra mile to please the people who share their passion for gaming. A true modern day Robin hood if you will.
@HomerSparkle
@HomerSparkle 5 жыл бұрын
Same was true with SecuROM, or pretty much any DRM.
@thechugg4372
@thechugg4372 5 жыл бұрын
I remember playing the cracks of Assassin's Creed 2 : so smooth. Then bought the game to support the series, performance was horrible in the paid game.
@Thalanox
@Thalanox 5 жыл бұрын
Pirated being better than the paid version happened a long time ago. This is just the latest example. I'd be hoping that the publishers would learn that making better products would be better for them than spending money actively making them worse, but I've learned too much to have that hope. For the time being, I guess the best thing to do would be to double-check which games use which kinds of DRM, and try to support the games and publishers you trust. This could help you discover more kinds of games that you'd enjoy than you would otherwise come across.
@SleepyDroid
@SleepyDroid 4 жыл бұрын
yeah thinking about not getting assassin's creed valhalla because they probably going to put in denuvo and see how bad assassin's creed origins is with in it. FPS is all over the place.
@sir.barnaby6328
@sir.barnaby6328 5 жыл бұрын
Id rather take lower framerates than deal with stutters, too bad this excessive drm has become the norm.
@Koozwad
@Koozwad 5 жыл бұрын
The norm? Nah, Denuvo is pretty rare, even in 'AAA' games. Depends on the publishers.
@sir.barnaby6328
@sir.barnaby6328 5 жыл бұрын
@@Koozwad can you bring examples on this?
@Koozwad
@Koozwad 5 жыл бұрын
@@sir.barnaby6328 You can see for yourself. Go to Steam, and for example with Rise of the Tomb Raider you can see on the shop page itself on the right it will say 'Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamper '. You should also follow this curator: store.steampowered.com/curator/26095454-Denuvo-Games/ Very useful. I don't know what you expected. I am not going to list all games that exist and then all of them that use Denuvo. Here's a random list I found: www.game-debate.com/games/gamesWithDenuvo Now compare that to the hundreds of thousands if not millions of games that exist. Do the maths.
@cornhole8839
@cornhole8839 5 жыл бұрын
@Channel07 idk, it took em a bit to crack borderlands 3. Though I doubt it mattered much in the long run
@PentaHousen
@PentaHousen 5 жыл бұрын
@@cornhole8839 did you really think people who pirate games would buy it otherwise?
@eGPNetwork
@eGPNetwork 5 жыл бұрын
SO THAT'S WHY UBISOFT GAMES USES 100% OF MY CPU!! Other games don't use all of my CPU resources :T
@tlotpwist3417
@tlotpwist3417 5 жыл бұрын
What are the average cpu use of your other games? And the overall average cpu use in total with all the background tasks when playing these games as the only opened software? Would be hilarious to see someone sue Ubisoft for shortening cpu's average lifespan
@Main_Protagonist
@Main_Protagonist 5 жыл бұрын
@@tlotpwist3417 GTA 5 uses like 30% of my CPU whil Assassin's Creed is around 80%.
@ryancrafar3733
@ryancrafar3733 5 жыл бұрын
True. Black flag run not really smooth on my pc n i wonder why? Of cos, my pc wasnt really the strongest rig ever but surely i can smoothly run a game like black flag. Push me to put in medium specs. But then, i put gta v on highest preset n boy it run very smooth. What the hell?
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 4 жыл бұрын
I just don’t buy Denuvo protected games. The steam server side license registry system is the best anti piracy measures.
@0ctothorp
@0ctothorp 5 жыл бұрын
that's frustrating, this is literally the ONLY channel on youtube period that I have notifications turned on for and one didn't show up for this video.
@tanishqsbasak475
@tanishqsbasak475 5 жыл бұрын
Denuvo: no body can crack us Codex: hold our keyboard
@favhwdg
@favhwdg 5 жыл бұрын
Insane how studios waste money on that...
@Koozwad
@Koozwad 5 жыл бұрын
It's about collecting information. Information = $$$
@kalessin4942
@kalessin4942 5 жыл бұрын
IIRC, Overlord Gaming did a video on it, but one of the arguments is that even if the DRM is cracked soon after the game comes out, the publishers still want to use it so that they can protect the early game sales. How effective that really is, I don't know, but it's certainly true that the vast majority of people who buy games don't even consider the DRM, so the presence of DRM sadly probably isn't costing many sales much as it's anti-consumer and makes the game objectively worse. So, from a purely business perspective, if the DRM does actually protect initial sales, then it does make sense why the business folks would insist on using it. Personally, I seriously question that it really protects enough sales to be worth what they pay for it, and as a consumer, I hate it, because it makes the game worse, but the business folks probably won't change their tune unless it can be shown that the combination of the price of the DRM and the lost sales from the DRM is a larger amount of money than the sales they gain from there being no cracked version of the game early on. If gamers in general refused to buy games with DRM, then that would probably do it, but in general, gamers would rather put up with DRM than not get a game, and as long as no cracked version exists, they have to pay if they want it. So, most folks just pay, and as such, it's a lot harder to show game publishers that DRM is a bad idea. Ultimately, they don't care about how it affects the game, just how it affects sales.
@Zanderb20
@Zanderb20 5 жыл бұрын
It's not really the studio that demands DRM. It is the publisher and its investors, who are (mostly) all old men in their 70s,80s who have absolutely no clue about anything related to technology. These people think it's still the 1970s orsomething and are completely out of touch with reality that people who pirate are not people who want to steal their product, but people who just can not afford it. (thus no sale is lost at all because they wouldn't have bought it in the first place)
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 5 жыл бұрын
Kalessin The early game sales are literally the highest numbers for any big AAA release. It’s about millions of copies, which is about 50 to 100 million in pure profit sales. If not more, some games sell up to 10 million or more at launch, like Fallout 4 or RDR2, ranking in 500 to 750 million in profit sales.
@kampfer91
@kampfer91 5 жыл бұрын
And for what ? Early game sale ? And what if the game crack a few days later ? They still gonna lose sale in the long run . All money for that day 1 sale and not long term sale....
@moradtamer
@moradtamer 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this on my PC during the premiere then 15 minutes after the premiere ended i get the notification on my phone Feels bad man F in chat for Overlord, he doesn't deserve this
@loweni7460
@loweni7460 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to overlord ?
@familiarr_Strangerr
@familiarr_Strangerr 5 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@moradtamer
@moradtamer 5 жыл бұрын
@@familiarr_Strangerr YT doesn't send the notifications to us, his subs so he doesn't get good views while having a high sub count Watch the last minute or two of his past couple dozen videos
@brokengames9020
@brokengames9020 5 жыл бұрын
5:40 proof of DRM scam business in plain sight.
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 5 жыл бұрын
they had me at "steady 30FPS" ... had me rolling my eyes that is.
@suyashbhagwat5615
@suyashbhagwat5615 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroB4NG I know right lol, like we are happy at a measly 30.
@chaosmagican
@chaosmagican 5 жыл бұрын
Not Denuvo related but I tried to play an older game on Origin yesterday. Can't communicate with license server, won't start, EA support says: no longer supported. Then remove the god damn DRM, you are really telling me I HAVE TO download a crack to play a game I paid for? Devs should be forced to remove DRM before dropping support. You know preserving art and stuff.
@vobruh
@vobruh 5 жыл бұрын
Not even just the aspect of preserving art, it's just fucking tragic as end-users/consumers we're getting fucked. We seriously own nothing in this world anymore, we're given the "opportunity" to pay for limited access products, and our access can be terminated at the drop of a dime if the company wishes so.
@yosoynacho
@yosoynacho 5 жыл бұрын
What game ?
@chaosmagican
@chaosmagican 5 жыл бұрын
@@yosoynacho NFS Undercover (attempted to play all the ones I have after needing a break playing all AC games xD)
@adlibbed2138
@adlibbed2138 5 жыл бұрын
@@chaosmagican might as well look around for cracked version if possible, and as a friendly reminder you should get the no traction mod so the physics won't felt as janky as the vanilla's also this video the listed the essential mods to install kzbin.info/www/bejne/o32uZ3xva7x2jZY
@christopherdsuza7531
@christopherdsuza7531 5 жыл бұрын
They don't care about the art just your money though, so they won't.
@rosshalz
@rosshalz 5 жыл бұрын
Your usage of the correct prepositions with the percentage values is on point and very gratifying! ("....Percent of ...", "percent more/less than..")
@derangel9143
@derangel9143 5 жыл бұрын
I really like these tests, though I do have one suggestion/critque: I think for AC: Origin you should have showed CPU usage. With the claim being that Denuvo + VMP had a drastic increase in CPU usage it would have made sense to show what, if any, effect it was having on your CPU.
@AnalogFoundry
@AnalogFoundry 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikeycrackson still, would have liked to see the CPU usage in gameplay.
@ABCboy5
@ABCboy5 5 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel the other day randomly, so far it's awesome...
@thelurkingpanda3605
@thelurkingpanda3605 5 жыл бұрын
hidden gem for sure
@Hpalhazred
@Hpalhazred 5 жыл бұрын
We should sue the companies using denuvo for overheating our CPUs.
@christopherdsuza7531
@christopherdsuza7531 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed xD. Also makes me have to spend more on drive space on my dime for a lesser experience.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 5 жыл бұрын
“Just buy sub-zero cooling”, Ubisoft and Denuvo...
@Tacoableful
@Tacoableful 5 жыл бұрын
Ah pirates, well known for their performance patches.
@webinatic216
@webinatic216 5 жыл бұрын
I don't mind low frame rates.... the stuttering is what gets me.
@numchuck3
@numchuck3 5 жыл бұрын
consistency is key
@brokengames9020
@brokengames9020 5 жыл бұрын
13:40 Also Microsoft version consumes more power and produce less frames. Scam & spy business perfection.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 5 жыл бұрын
Yikes. If it spyware it might explain the framerates.
@rps215
@rps215 5 жыл бұрын
In UWP's case it is decryption processing I guess
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 5 жыл бұрын
@@rps215 oh yeah. All the files in the games there are encrypted, even the important files that aren't in the steam version.
@GodOfWarBG
@GodOfWarBG 4 жыл бұрын
@Broken Games A lot of PC game pass owners also report a shit ton of problems with the games from Microsoft, there is clearly something fucked up with their client.
@BLOODYHACKER
@BLOODYHACKER 3 жыл бұрын
that no denuvo is smooth as butter
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator 5 жыл бұрын
I remember when developers only keeping denuvo on temporarily was the norm. I also remember when modding was made super easy in games like the half-life series.
@レインレイン
@レインレイン 5 жыл бұрын
Modding witcher 3 is literally copying and pasting
@ihavenoson3384
@ihavenoson3384 5 жыл бұрын
@@レインレイン Maybe on PC. Have fun with the rare console-release-specific mods. For most console peasants, it is the vanilla experience or nothing. How the f**k are you supposed to drag-and-drop on Microsoft's XBOX 1 etc. when the company considers supporting basic keyboard and mouse haram? :) Have fun modding with just the gamepad controls. :D
@GodOfWarBG
@GodOfWarBG 4 жыл бұрын
@@ihavenoson3384 Hopefully the next Xbox fixes those problems as it literally looks like a small PC now.
@Nightceasar
@Nightceasar 5 жыл бұрын
I am subscribing because we need people who bring us this sort of news and insight.
@Berxy
@Berxy 5 жыл бұрын
7:23 have a seat, let's talk about desktop management.
@Kanashi_9
@Kanashi_9 5 жыл бұрын
i internally screamed when i saw his desktop, deer lain clean your desktop.
@ihavenoson3384
@ihavenoson3384 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Gotta leave some room for the porn clips. :D
@bx9559
@bx9559 5 жыл бұрын
I refuse to pay for any game loaded with denuevo.
@xaroxero
@xaroxero 5 жыл бұрын
Denuvo is straight up CANCER. I stopped playing AC:Origin after getting tired of the hitching, deciding to revisit it whenever I get a new PC. I knew the DRM was bad, but damn.
@snchez2106
@snchez2106 5 жыл бұрын
Now you can play it and have a super smooth experience. its worh a shot, amazing game that literally received a cancer treatment and it was successful. Now is literally running as it should have run, is like a blessing for gamers and karma for Ubisoft and the cunts who created this piece of shit called Denuvo.
@laffenthecat
@laffenthecat 5 жыл бұрын
man i love you for making this video.
@Na0uta
@Na0uta 5 жыл бұрын
man what a joke of an ingame stress test, the DRM version CLEARLY runs worse. but the score is super close together.
@Diegoshadow85
@Diegoshadow85 5 жыл бұрын
right? like wtf are these 50 hiccups during test, nothing? Fkn gaslighters makes us think we go crazy and not game has shitty drm and optimization!
@-zero-
@-zero- 5 жыл бұрын
>pay 10-20$ >install their crappy launcher(steam,origin,uplay etc) which uses resources >game doesnt even run at max potential
@dreamhaze9123
@dreamhaze9123 5 жыл бұрын
Especially the latest Steam update of both the launcher and the site. The laptop I use for internet browsing straight up struggles to switch between tabs in the launcher and gets 100% CPU load on a fucking WEB PAGE of a news article on Steam. I honestly have never seen a web site lag on any laptops I've had. There are entire video games made past 2000 that require less computing power than the new Steam launcher. Ended up uninstalling that trash from all my machines.
@ihavenoson3384
@ihavenoson3384 5 жыл бұрын
@@dreamhaze9123 Agreed. The new Steam client is blatant bloatware. I just want to play the fucking games. Fuck the shoehorned VR functionality and the slower-than-Chrome Steam browser. I have a f-ing Intel Kabby Lake Quadcore, yet I am getting 1994 486/66 Mhz Windows 3.11 flashbacks with how everything, even the static content, with the clients takes like a minute to load. It's basically the performance of a potato from a wrapper software on a vastly over-specced system. I specifically avoided the mobile development assignments to not have to deal with this constantly-lagging shit and now it is being shoved down my throat from the consumer-side. F**K!
@frankwren8215
@frankwren8215 5 жыл бұрын
When testing stuff like this it would be helpful to record results from a lower-end PC as well. Plenty of people who were totally unable to play the game can play it with Denuvo removed; my 2600k clocked at 5.5 cannot handle the game over 40fps with Denuvo and VMprotect, but easily passes 60 average with these removed. 1070ti for reference.
@grtom88
@grtom88 5 жыл бұрын
How the hell did you get it to 5.5? that's incredible!
@fiber_king2334
@fiber_king2334 5 жыл бұрын
@@grtom88 typo most likely dude.(I bet he meand 4.5GHz)
@grtom88
@grtom88 5 жыл бұрын
@@fiber_king2334 most likely
@GrandHighGamer
@GrandHighGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah not showing CPU usage on a game CPU bound makes little sense. Unless they're running a 2080 we've no idea if they were GPU bound on the benchmark. The 3700x is also an awful CPU to usage for that test no matter what. "Let's see if this helps CPU usage on a relatively powerful and modern CPU". There was never going to be an issue either way.
@daedaluxe
@daedaluxe 5 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering why games started stuttering when there's really no reason for them to, holy shit those are some nasty stutters on the drm version.
@krugec23
@krugec23 5 жыл бұрын
dont forget telemetry,they gotta know exactly what button you press to sell the data to google
@Scalee
@Scalee 5 жыл бұрын
If denuvo is called everytime the player moves, shouldn't the benchmark be avoided? Since it has no player input.
@thelurkingpanda3605
@thelurkingpanda3605 5 жыл бұрын
good question
@jeetbajal8449
@jeetbajal8449 5 жыл бұрын
I guess its tied to the movement of the camera too?
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 5 жыл бұрын
and how do you think player movement works codewise? It's essentially a cue to move the camera together with an entity rather then it measuring when a key is pressed, it likely checks whether the entity moves (and therefore the camera with it). In a benchmark this entity is likely being moved for you without requiring your interaction (since object rendering is tied to where your entity is at a point in time, or at least should be for systems with a limited amount of RAM).
@admirnaruto
@admirnaruto 5 жыл бұрын
The built-in benchmarking tools, usually just move the player camera trough the scenes on a predefined path, so it's the same as if a player was moving it, just automated.
@otame4771
@otame4771 5 жыл бұрын
I want this shown to every company that uses Denuvo for their games....
@TheIsleNarrator
@TheIsleNarrator 5 жыл бұрын
Don't be naive, they already know what's up. Don't you think programmers and developers have noticed this??
@ihavenoson3384
@ihavenoson3384 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheIsleNarrator Yeah. They do not want that shit either. It's usually the publisher who gets the "good idea." You can guess how little those suits care about the user experience. E.g. SquareEnix executives bitching at the Eidos Montreal developers working on Deus Ex Human Revolution and it turned out those professional managers do not even like, let alone play, video games.
@ajamir9959
@ajamir9959 5 жыл бұрын
A person who plays cracked game will never pay for a game no matter how long he have to wait for crack.
@TheFeri
@TheFeri 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wait for the crack because since there is no demos nowdays I want to check out if I actually like the game or not. Usually I buy them if I like them.
@ajamir9959
@ajamir9959 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFeri i myself played cracked games only from EA and UBI other than these 2 i mostly pay for all games.
@TheFeri
@TheFeri 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajamir9959 Not like those copmanies made anything that interest me in a while the last ubi game that interest me is AC origins and Titanfall 2 from EA And as I said I pay for games after I tried them and that under 2 hours refound on steam is not enough
@sihledotcom
@sihledotcom 5 жыл бұрын
I missed these!
@soniablanche5672
@soniablanche5672 5 жыл бұрын
What do Denuvo shills have to say about this? The irony is that Denuvo will convince people to pirate it even more than before
@Kaxlon
@Kaxlon 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! There is way less stuttering in the cracked version. Set playback speed to 0.25x, and start watching from 3:52. Keep your eyes on the wall closest to you, in the field. The right hand playback is smooth and stutter free. The playback on the left shows jumps, stutter, and timing difference. If I already bought the game, I would personally apply the crack.
@Nikelangelo
@Nikelangelo 5 жыл бұрын
THank you for pointing out the loading times differences, that's something I have not thought about nor heard b4.
@bool2max
@bool2max 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing work from CODEX, even though I have no idea about their efforts when it comes to the technical side. I sort of wish they'd done it on BL3 instead as that game stutters hard as hell.
@NEVERKNOWSBE5T
@NEVERKNOWSBE5T 5 жыл бұрын
Informative as always thanks for these I love these denuvo videos
@rztrzt
@rztrzt 5 жыл бұрын
I played the codex version, was much smoother than my paid for version.
@direnpena
@direnpena 5 жыл бұрын
Great content! Very satisfying to watch these kinds of videos.
@mcdima4989
@mcdima4989 5 жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem with Far Cry 5, on my low end i5 2500K i could get 90-100fps(60-80% cpu usage) on the cracked exe but with the steam version i could only get 30-40fps(constant 100% cpu usage).
@ManiacKnight
@ManiacKnight 5 жыл бұрын
Denuvo cracks don't remove or disable denuvo but rather bypass them or make them think you own the game. This was the only exceptional case
@ManiacKnight
@ManiacKnight 5 жыл бұрын
@outdoorzee ubisoft always uses denuvo sadly, they just won't learn
@mcdima4989
@mcdima4989 5 жыл бұрын
@@ManiacKnightthere isn't a clear connection between perf. Issues and denuvo in fc5 but the cracked version isn't that different from retail? Only change is denuvo bypass
@ManiacKnight
@ManiacKnight 5 жыл бұрын
@@mcdima4989 the cracked version still has denuvo running and doing its work, just like the legit version.
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 5 жыл бұрын
2500k "low end" my ass lol. That old girl can still kick some ass, you really want "low end"? try my 1st gen core i3 lol.
@CybershamanX
@CybershamanX 5 жыл бұрын
(7:25) Now, I thought that _my_ desktop was cluttered! I don't feel so bad anymore. ;) Thanks for the video, Overlord Gaming! More people need to see this. Will be sharing for sure! ;)
@rezganger
@rezganger 5 жыл бұрын
When devs,and especially publishers,act the way they have increasingly done,i have no problems with piracy.Thanks for sharing,man.Im very pleased that at least one YTer covers this to some extent.Its an extremely interesting subject on its own.Especially how the scene groups work! (and im happy ur not as angry as usual)But what is ur testing methodology?How many runs u use?Why include extreme outliers?
@AintPopular
@AintPopular 5 жыл бұрын
Love these kind of videos keep em coming
@qaisyarnazwan9550
@qaisyarnazwan9550 5 жыл бұрын
Ubisoft's games deserve to be cracked and pirated
@qaisyarnazwan9550
@qaisyarnazwan9550 5 жыл бұрын
@Andrej what did you mean by virus?
@qaisyarnazwan9550
@qaisyarnazwan9550 5 жыл бұрын
@Andrej thats not a definition for virus, man
@qaisyarnazwan9550
@qaisyarnazwan9550 5 жыл бұрын
@Andrej ok,ok you win...
@Yuhara_rev
@Yuhara_rev 5 жыл бұрын
Found this on my recommendations. This is such a very well done video, subbed.
@namelessbag
@namelessbag 5 жыл бұрын
Feels good to see that piratechads keep getting the best version of games
@tubatuba3911
@tubatuba3911 5 жыл бұрын
Now is the moment of truth - either Ubisoft respects legitimate users or not. They should immediately remove Denuvo from the game. If they don't, it is known that they have fair users for nothing. WE ARE WAITING! THIS WILL BE REMEMBERED VERY LONG ...
@TotoroChinchilla
@TotoroChinchilla 5 жыл бұрын
imagine being the developer whose sole life's work is to make somebody else's product worse, and then people bypass it anyway
@RMJ1984
@RMJ1984 5 жыл бұрын
This is rapidly becoming one of my favorite channels. So nice to see channels that can help call companies out of their bullshit.
@baronsengir187
@baronsengir187 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work.
@brandongray1059
@brandongray1059 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this. I may or may not need to follow up and grab this latest crack. :D
@taggarbarol300
@taggarbarol300 3 жыл бұрын
corporate bootlickers will still continue to defend drms on the internet no matter what
@christopherchilton1955
@christopherchilton1955 5 жыл бұрын
This makes sense. ACO used sooo much more CPU than The Witcher 3 did, even though it made no sense given what was on screen.
@ZinhoMegaman
@ZinhoMegaman 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget what happened to Tron Evolution.
@Chili_Bass
@Chili_Bass 5 жыл бұрын
Always wondered why the game stuttered... Great video! Subscribed and notifications ON!
@SubhojitDey
@SubhojitDey 5 жыл бұрын
wonder if rdr2 has denuvo maybe that's why it's soo performance heavy
@bennieblanks5129
@bennieblanks5129 5 жыл бұрын
I found your channel several months ago and really enjoyed the content, but then KZbin completely stopped showing me your uploads and I forgot all about you. Just saw you in my recommended list and I hit the bell to make sure KZbin doesn't hide you again.
@Youssless
@Youssless 5 жыл бұрын
amazing consumer pro work as usual, let's help these guys beat the algorithm, seriously comment, like, and subscribe you guys its free, doesn't take anytime and truly makes a difference for these awesome channels getting squashed by KZbin algorithm.
@jazbuntu8170
@jazbuntu8170 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid !! Its nice that someone has covered this topic !!
@FinnBender
@FinnBender 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree with your talking points, I really think you should not compare minimum framerates. It does not relate to how fluid a game runs, because there is no way of telling how often the framerate dips. I suggest you use the lower 1st-percentile instead, as unstable framerates will result in lower values while stable framerates will not - even if there was one giant lagspike at some point. The software you are using to display the framerate ingame even has an option to calculate the 1st- and 0.1th-percentile. Otherwise, great video as always.
@drusik
@drusik 5 жыл бұрын
I do get an FPS gain with Denuvo removal in Origins. Most intense area was Great Library of Alexandria where I'd drop from 60 to 45 - 47 FPS. Thanks to Codex with this incredible development, it now drops from 60 to 54-55 FPS. Other area's seem to stutter less (not a V-Sync issue, but from loading and performance reasons). 2020 will be a beautiful era hopefully where some games were dropped because of performance issues because of Denuvo and other DRM's. 980 GTX OC I5-6600k OC 16GB 3600.
@notaloafofbread773
@notaloafofbread773 5 жыл бұрын
the problem with your tests is that your not using a game that's limiting your cpu to begin with. I would love to see how a first gen i5 would far with and without Denovo.
@Nikkivaldheks
@Nikkivaldheks 5 жыл бұрын
It's only one variable? its a perfect test.
@notaloafofbread773
@notaloafofbread773 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nikkivaldheks coming for some one that could not play dmc2 with denovo. yes it matters greatly. it wasn't till i bought it on gog that i changed from barley getting 26 fps to a constant 60 on my phenom 2. the difference on older cps is much easier to see and a lot more impactful them losing 10 fps on a 12 core cpu then a 4 core one where denovo can run on a unused thread where on a 4 core one it has to use the ones the game is useing hurting performance a lot more.
@Nikkivaldheks
@Nikkivaldheks 5 жыл бұрын
@@notaloafofbread773 Well thats your problem not the tests fault.
@notaloafofbread773
@notaloafofbread773 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nikkivaldheks the fact you just skimmed over the fact that denovo would not use the same threads as the game if you have more the 6 is telling. go shill for something else. sorry I'm not in a country with a great used market that's clearly my fault. sorry that a ryzen 3 has a greater impact vs a fucking 12 threaded cpu I'm sorry your to fucking ignorant to care. good day sir
@Nikkivaldheks
@Nikkivaldheks 5 жыл бұрын
@@notaloafofbread773 If you want to see denuvo tests someone else has probably done it somewhere else. :) not trying to be mean spirited I just dont see your huge complaint and the relation to this video.
@AsJPlovE
@AsJPlovE 5 жыл бұрын
Yes KZbin. I'm a pirate, and I find this content relevant.
@lordofshadow7041
@lordofshadow7041 4 жыл бұрын
I have bought the game but I have switch for a cracked version for this reason :(
@mentalplayground
@mentalplayground 5 жыл бұрын
In-depth tech analysis, Great material. Thank You
@MrSamadolfo
@MrSamadolfo 5 жыл бұрын
🙂 what about Rise of the Tomb Raider? and Odyssey? is there a patch
@Deamia
@Deamia 5 жыл бұрын
Odyssey was "cracked" (bypass, not removal of Denuvo) from a pretty early version of the game and is missing a lot of the DLC/updates that came out afterwards. There have been no other updates to the game (from a pirates perspective), and the assumption is that once the game is done with all of it's updates and dlc's, a cracked version (hopefully like this one, where its a complete removal) will be released, and we will be able to test performance differences then as well.
@MrSamadolfo
@MrSamadolfo 5 жыл бұрын
@@Deamia 🙂 ok neat, thanks for the update
@jgsource552
@jgsource552 5 жыл бұрын
MrSammy yea i wonder that for odyssey to. And i wonder why no person was able to crack odysseys new dlcs though. It’s been so long and still nothing
@MrSamadolfo
@MrSamadolfo 5 жыл бұрын
@@jgsource552 🙂 yup nuthing
@GrandHighGamer
@GrandHighGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Rise is buttery smooth outside of towns for me on an outdated quad core, any performance issues aren't down to Denuvo. Nixxes is also a really competant porting studio and is unlikely to fuck up the DRM implementation.
@barlobe
@barlobe 5 жыл бұрын
This is great, but we really need to see Origin benchmark with a 4 core CPU to really see if it will have an impact on FPS
@xAce8
@xAce8 5 жыл бұрын
"took 394.15% of the unprotected.." can't you just say close to 4 times longer? i enjoyed the video though, thumbs up.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, the desktop at 7:28, “not enough desktop icons!”
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 4 жыл бұрын
I realised this too late, AC origin was cooking my CPU and I didn't noticed it until a week later, getting bluescreens here and there. Thanks Ubisoft, I'll never buy any game from you guys ever again
@jaysoosbeans
@jaysoosbeans 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the group did something similar to Borderlands 3. While the crack still has issues it shows how talented Codex is considered the layers upon layers of DRM the game contains.
@FusionGamerElite
@FusionGamerElite 5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Mania STILL has DRM, I still refuse to play it
@bladeclanhalo3
@bladeclanhalo3 5 жыл бұрын
one of the issues with the benchmark tool is that denuvo and vm protect were constantly pinging during actions like running or fighting. since there is no player input its not trying to get these calls
@Whizzer
@Whizzer 5 жыл бұрын
Consider using no more significant figures in your calculated results than the measured numbers themselves have. Any more digits than that are not accurate. Also, you may want to mention your storage for the games, since loading times seem to be most affected.
@user-hj3vq2bc2g
@user-hj3vq2bc2g 5 жыл бұрын
man....I wish I could join these heroes with their work....
@K_RNDM
@K_RNDM 5 жыл бұрын
Make one on rockstar drm
@thecanucklehead3034
@thecanucklehead3034 5 жыл бұрын
Ive had to abandon origins in the past because no matter my settings, the microstutter madw it unplayable. Might have to give this a try
@fuckyougoogle5751
@fuckyougoogle5751 5 жыл бұрын
i bought the game and could get less than 20 fps i got the original torrent with the half crack and was lucky to get 30-40 fps full denuvo removal gives me full 60 fps at 1080P on medium/high fuuck denuvo
@fuckyougoogle5751
@fuckyougoogle5751 5 жыл бұрын
and your desktop is worse than mine just hide the damn icons already
@siloPIRATE
@siloPIRATE 5 жыл бұрын
My performance on Origins is poor. Now I find out it’s likely the DRM. And I’m a legitimate customer. Maybe I should implement a Denuvo/DRM ban and not buy any games with that in
@fuckyougoogle5751
@fuckyougoogle5751 5 жыл бұрын
@@siloPIRATE vote with your wallet not your words :/ sucks TBH
@Zerpfizz
@Zerpfizz 4 жыл бұрын
where did you find the version without denuvo?
@fuckyougoogle5751
@fuckyougoogle5751 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zerpfizz google it :P
@noa_zeus
@noa_zeus 5 жыл бұрын
In Arkham Knight it does. It can be seen while driving the Batmobile or just gliding from Miagani Island to Bleake Island.
@beodun
@beodun 5 жыл бұрын
Fight the good fight
@Kptn_kabaakal
@Kptn_kabaakal 5 жыл бұрын
i also got 200-300 point improvement in aco benchmark after this crack. it may not sound like much, but it actually makes the game playable by getting rid of constant stutters in lower end cpus like my i3 6100.
@___KaH0tika___
@___KaH0tika___ 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny nowadays you're actually better served playing pirated games than buying them :P But to be honest Ubisoft has become greedy mainstream waist of time anyway.
@hkoizumi3134
@hkoizumi3134 5 жыл бұрын
I've recently upgraded my PC to Ryzen 3600x with my 1080Ti. I ran a benchmark with this game and it still does show hiccup like in the video. At first I've thought it was because I've installed it on my 4TB HDD that ran at 5200RPM. So I moved it to my NVMe drive and the result were still the same. I am now curious to see if there are similar performance boost to be had in Assassin's creed Odyssey.
@gr8b8m85
@gr8b8m85 5 жыл бұрын
Any game that uses DRM deserves to be cracked and pirated.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 5 жыл бұрын
I think you mean intrusive DRM (just like by locking your doors you shouldn’t get broken into), but if they steal performance you should get it back (like if you stole your neighbors mail, they should break in to reclaim it).
@radumirceabunica7492
@radumirceabunica7492 5 жыл бұрын
@7:23 that must be the best messy desktop i have ever seen
@MrMoepz
@MrMoepz 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I love you Guys, but that clusterfuck of a desktop gives me actual, physical cancer. oO
@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's also a way to force upgrades. It would never run like it does on the consoles (even 30fps locked), if the console version required the same CPU load. I own Origins, and this makes me want to download the cracked version. There's no excuse for always connected SP games. The days of "owning" your games is coming to an end. Unplug your internet, and see how many of the modern games you can play. Even offline mode requires a connection first to enter offline mode. Unless you do things outside of normal functionality.
@crozraven
@crozraven 5 жыл бұрын
your games are a piece of crap when no more support from the publishers while denuvo still implemented. it's no different than renting a game instead. Even then, it is the worst version of a game in terms of overall performance compare to console version.
@diligencehumility6971
@diligencehumility6971 3 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't worry about "pirates". How many times have you (when you were a child) downloaded a game, because you (as a child) had no money? And now as a grown up, how many times do you now buy games? Exactly. Normal people buy games they like. They know in order for the studio to make a sequel, they need sales. So you buy the games you want a sequel to. 99% of all pirated games was only played in 10 minutes. Only kids a literally broke people download pirated games. And when broke people get money, they go back and buy the games they pirated. This is how gamers are
@sabin1981
@sabin1981 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. Seriously. Get Stardock's "Fences" for that desktop already :P
@sabin1981
@sabin1981 5 жыл бұрын
@Bikiran Bordoloi Yup, Fences is fantastic and an absolute MUST for people that have busy/cluttered desktops :)
@KenneXS
@KenneXS 5 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
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