5 Reasons Rogue One Ruined Star Wars - Reckless Disagreement (Tarkin, Princess Leia)

[@williamkarbala5718]

The Chinese civil war started in 1927 but the communist rebels didn't centralize command until 1936. Just because the rebels weren't unified doesn't mean they weren't doing anything.

[@StarWarsomania]

Still, 25 years is a long time to go without unifying against a force capable of taking you all out. And I assume the reason the Chinese Rebels didn't organize was due to them being disorganized individuals and small groups scattered across a giant empire that had existed irregularly for 2000 years, not governments and militias that had recently been forced into subservience to an empire that were already in communication with each other.

[@xanderabbey8529]

@@StarWarsomania I know this is a serious necropost on my part, but much of what was said about the Chinese rebels can be said about The Rebel Alliance. It's actually worse for the Rebel Alliance: imagine trying to coordinate some resistance against a galaxy-spanning empire, with other splintered, disagreeing, conflicted, and distrusting rebel fighters who are also scattered around the galaxy and are likely hiding as best as they can. The coordination problems only increase in places like the Star Wars universe, or any large scale (usually galactic- or univese-scale) sci-fi/science fantasy story.

[@DaisukeFlamedramon]

@@xanderabbey8529 Another necropost, but I would add that communication lines may have been blocked/censored by the Empire. Not to mention I'm sure the Empire also monitored communication lines. Making them a high risk to use. It may have been years for some to establish a connection with other rebel forces under such circumstances. There is a reason during war times that groups have often created secret codes to communicate. If someone suddenly takes over, that code of communication isn't there, it has to be created, they couldn't rely on any existing code, as there would be no way to tell if the Empire knew of it.

[@xanderabbey8529]

@@DaisukeFlamedramon Good point there.

[@barkasz6066]

@@StarWarsomania The Empire was established in Revenge of the Sith. The time jump between RotS and ANH is 19 years, not 25. The Imperial Senate was only abolished in ANH, so one might imagine that the first few years of the Empire looked even less like a total dictatorship. Plus all the animated shows tell us that there were already several rebel cells that worked completely independently of each other and worked as small scale operations limited to just one planet or small sector of the galaxy and not interested in restoring the Republic as a whole. Even after the various rebel cells organized into a loose Rebel Alliance about 6-7 years before ANH, many of the political leaders still believed that armed conflict can be avoided ro kept to a very small scale. And after they realized that internal reform cannot change anything in the Empire, they spent the next few years building up their arsenal so that they won't get obliterated instantly.

[@KansasCitian]

Second point: that's literally how history works.... leaders get all the credit!

[@TimTE01]

Reality totally needs to be in this Film with Space Wizards, Laser Swords and Planet-sized Planet Destroyers.

[@DarthObscurity]

Alec, it's called "suspension of disbelief". Our technology always changes around us, but humans ALWAYS remain the fucking same. Get it? We'd still be power hungry fear mongers even if we have planet destroying fucking turds and galaxy creating farts, you dillhole.

[@reesiuspeesiuspuffs3006]

Alec Pridgen They made a movie trilogy about the politics of a staged civil war as well as the banks screwing everyone over. Realism can go anywhere.

[@andrewbuckner6319]

I don't remember Han and Luke being leaders when they destroyed the first Death Star but it looks like they got a lot of credit at the end of that movie.

[@lilmissknowitall5775]

just like Balto

[@abairdk]

Let us keep in mind that Princess Leia's greatest feat was to shelter the secret of the Yavin IV base under the cruelest, and most ruthless torture the Empire had. And she never cracked.

[@jotheunissen9274]

Which is another plot hole Leia was captured and interrogated by DARTH VADER Someone that ridiculous strong in the Force could've definitely found out every single piece of information in Leia's brain

[@stephenmolyneux7865]

Nope Rogue One is the only film that’s lived up to my expectations of Star Wars as an adult having loved it so much since as a child

[@tsdt4ever]

Except for the video game style "switches" at the end.

[@peewypeabody4284]

Absolutely! The prequels had absolute garbage dialogs and gave us Jar Jar and Midichlorians, and the sequels completely dismantled the original trilogy and were some of the poorest writing ever. Rogue One is the _only_ film I can consider canon and part of my beloved Star Wars

[@ixinor]

@@peewypeabody4284 oke cool but youre obviously dumb

[@mywayorthehigh]

Rogue just made the original trilogy worse to many characters

[@sap20lj]

Peewy Peabody umm wrong Prequel is actually good especially Return of the Sith. The Sequel from Force Awakens - - Rise of skywalker actually ruined everything the whole saga because of Disney.

[@jamesknight3022]

Vader didn't blow up the ship because he also wanted to torture the location of the rebel base out of her. I know this cause I watched the movie.

[@obi-twokenobi4861]

If he wanted to torture the rebels, why did he kill all of them? Doesn't all of them know the location of the base since the entire fleet came from Yavin?

[@davidherasme5780]

@@obi-twokenobi4861 because they were standing in his way of getting the Death Star plans and shooting at him 💀 the torturing was Plan B

[@Damar158]

@@obi-twokenobi4861 Because she's clearly in charge and would know more than the rest.

[@Deuteromis]

​@@obi-twokenobi4861 Vader as a Sith Lord needs his murdering fix.

[@obi-twokenobi4861]

@@Deuteromis I like the idea of him just going "ok let me go for a little killstreak and then I will capture their leader or something... wait is that Leia?"

[@Philipa0]

The 7:34 statement, the "why send her in the first place if they are not going to believe her." - wasn't the official reason for sending her just getting to Saw Gerrera?

[@spikeychris]

His entire plot synopsis was wrong not sure if it was for "comedic" effect or to try and justify his 10 minute whinge but the movie was dull and taking stuff vastly out of context to try and prove a point for "comedy" is stupid.

[@you-5-iver804]

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[@ezekieleason4997]

Tarkin made a large contribution to many parts of the death star. Krennic was the director of the scientists that built the super laser but Tarkin had been in charge of the project for years already. Plus Krennic's "achievement" was really the achievement of the scientists which he executed earlier in the movie so Krennic is not much better than Tarkin.

[@TheJiminatorHS]

Ezekiel Eason seriously, tarkin was in ep iii for a reason

[@mattgonzales3994]

You're taking this at the wrong angle. It's not that Tarkin didn't contribute, it's that Krennic gets ZERO credit. The fucking super laser is what MAKES the death star! And he gets only demotions and death threats for his trouble? Culminating in a final sacrfice for the Empire? The hell guys, that dude should be a hero in the eyes of the Emperor.

[@TheJiminatorHS]

Again, canon shows the laser was being designed by the goddamn geonosians in Ep II. krennic just lead the SCIENTISTS to do the final work. Also, Krennic never gets the chance to talk to the emperor because Tarkin is a vicious politically ruthless manipulator who is friends with both Vader and the Emperor. Tarkin is a cruel and coldhearted bastard and that's what makes him so great a villain. He pushes everyone away and will kill billions if he perceives the slightest threat to either his power or galactic stability, which he considers one in the same.

[@The_Noblest_Roman]

I'll follow that up by saying it's also hard because Disney is already fumbling with their new expanded content. For example, in Tarkin, the eponymous character is overseeing the construction of the Death Star. He's been involved since the beginning. But in Rogue One, they do try their hardest to make it look like he's some political climber than stole Krennic's shit at the last second. If you've read the book and seen the movie, then you can come to the same conclusion that Older General Skywalker did - and I should add, that I did too - but it's never stated as such by the materials themselves, leaving it open to interpretation. I'm not dissing a piece of media for leaving something for the consumer to work out on their own, but generally I'd prefer it if such things were a bit more subtle than something that could potentially reframe one of the series' great villains as lesser than they really were.

[@quicksilver9345]

TheNoblestRoman holy shit dude. Ok I agree lol.

[@pallyboy6005]

"Oh, they were obtained by Princess Leia, were they?" -*directly* after showing a clip where a man says that the plans were *provided* by Princess Leia, not *obtained* by them. Sooo...oops?

[@shaunrosenberg4568]

Rouge One was a great movie because it really showed just how helpless people were under the empire. That's something the originals were missing.

[@morsteen]

Yes. Which is why I edited back in the Biggs and luke scene at the beginning, because it gives quite a bit of context to the situation there. I think it fits a lot better now that we have rogue one.

[@Tracey_]

Yeah, the rebel alliance had plot armor in the originals.

[@Help_m3]

I don't understand why people hated rogue one

[@nayanD69]

@@Help_m3 I think the only reason they hate it is because they know what will happen and it didn't had any of those shing lightsaber duel these guys look for. Rogue one, except for few aspects is quite a fantastic movie, the dying of k really hurt, I was praying for the any one of the rogue one team to survive even though I knew they won't. It does have few mistakes- chirrup and baze appeared out of nowhere, had no personal connections to the plot(although were quite likeable), the start was a bit slow, and the end music should been more ominous and threatening when vader and his fleet arrive. And I fact of expanding on saw gurrera and bodhi and cassain some more time could've been given to the space battle with vader and the alliance fleet

[@SDfan2002]

Only if you DIDN’T WATCH THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

[@catmeow4859]

“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.”

[@solhatten9869]

Best comment i have seen today

[@catmeow4859]

@@robertfrosty514 I don’t consider *that trilogy* cannon because it was a dumpster fire like you say

[@ainternet239]

Ah yes, the "hilarious" pretending to drink out of empty cup routine

[@jamesknight3022]

How dare Leia take credit. All she had to do was think quick to get the plans in safe hands, withstand intense torture, stay quiet and scrafice her entire planet, keep calm and collected, face imprisonment, brave a daring escape which requires her to take up arms and even more quick thinking. Spoiled little princess if I've ever seen one.

[@fightkostka]

this video is interesting. You know they were basically agents in rogue one and leia was something like leader, but lets me ask this how many agents or soldiers do you know by name from WW 2 without google, and you still know a guy who talked to the phone and sits in bunker (Winston Churchil)

[@aaronwinegar9724]

Some of own Band of Brothers, so 8-ish soldiers from there. Plus both my grandfathers. Plus two famous spies. Plus a famous codebreaker. Plus a couple of snipers from the USSR. So, 15. Maybe more on a good day. If you count generals as soldiers, raise that to two dozen.

[@christopherwills6976]

Ian Fleming, Alan Turing, Geoffrey Hayward, tom Ellis area few i know of off the the top of my head, there was also that actor was one of the most decorated US solders in history. my father could probably rattle out a doezen my grandfather could probably know hundreds

[@michaelschwiebert3636]

Christopher wills but you don't know their names, which is kinda the point being made.

[@fightkostka]

And thats the point. I am talking about all the people on earth you could name them but you are interest in them not everyone is like you. So in the end is that if you dont look in that stuff you will know only the leaders.

[@Videosaurus_Wrex]

fightkostka to be fair, Churchill was on the front lines in ww1

[@rocafella142]

I usually enjoy videos like this.. but I had an argument basically yo everything this guy said... his points are weak.. Vader didn't see Leia with the plans. He saw a corvette fly into hyperspace with the plans. There more than 1 corvette in star wars. Her passing off that it wasn't her corvette in the battle makes sense. And he said PROVIDED by Leia. Which she did, she gave it to him. And Rouge One did get credit and recognition for what they did. It was Rogue Squadron who attacked the Death Star. Where do you think they got the name Rogue from? To honor Rouge One.

[@azfarazahari96]

rocafella142 whoahh.. rogue squadron.. rogue one.. somehow I never realized it until I read your comment.. you're awesome

[@philipniosi9367]

Perfect Reply.

[@PauluzP]

Actually they also say rogue 2

[@Jamyes9909]

PauluzP Right!

[@tyrannis14]

Red Squadron. Rogue Squadron wasn't until ESB.

[@darkyunk]

This is the best star wars movie on of the Disney era IMO

[@ivospasov3433]

Yes

[@metalwizard1969]

Really not saying much.

[@alecjones2052]

Best Star Wars movie.

[@shaderax_storm6165]

Woah woah woah it's not Caravan of courage! It's definitely not the worst Star wars film, I mean I saw the clone wars animated movie with "Stinky" in it. Hmmmmm I honestly think Solo might be the best of this batch... If you fall asleep at certain points

[@satuhogosha]

The moment you realizing after watching the last jedi that Rogue One was a masterpiece.

[@avon4216]

hahaha

[@user-qi6tp1te1y]

It's true I would rather watch green lantern then the last Jedi

[@someanimal3506]

I would rather watch the prequels than the original trilogy.

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

Some Animal tbf the dialogue in the prequels are so bad it’s funny

[@someanimal3506]

Unicorn Barfing rainbows In Attack of the Clones, yeah, in Phantom Menace it was just cringey sometimes.

[@Epok97]

Leader taking credit for others achievements? Unheard of!

[@alfischer3851]

Of course Leia gets all the credit, that's how war works. Read "Who built Thebes of the Seven Gates" by Berthold Brecht. "Ceasar beat the Gauls.Didn't he even have a cook with him?

[@emanuelb.2559]

indeed, do you remember the last battle in the Revolutionary War, the Siege of Yorktown, a guy named Bob was pretty badass

[@pjamese3]

Also, it was "provided by" not "obtained by." Lei didn't do squat to obtain the weapons, but she did provide the plans to the rebellion leadership. Also, Tarkin took the Death Star from a political climber who was only good at getting the Death Star built. Watch Motti's HR complaint about Vader choking him in Star Wars. It's hilarious.

[@MaximRecoil]

>Watch Motti's HR complaint about Vader choking him in Star Wars. It's hilarious. Where can I watch that?

[@KentaWBN]

no day passed without remembering Bob. ...

[@JonesRC83]

Admiral Motti's Incident Report Against Darth Vader.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXzJi6xnnqyCrbM

[@supermanprime6758]

You miss the bigger point about Leia lying like a six year old. Tarkin: "She lied to me! She lied to me!" Vader: "I told you..."

[@davidalexander3320]

Now do 5 reasons why Cracked no longer produces videos. Oh wait.

[@milankostic2571]

We just watched one of those reasons 😂

[@josey_8204]

Lol

[@nickapeldoorn9466]

They need to get off the crack

[@davidalexander3320]

Yeah they got bought and started making shitty videos again apparently. Jokes on me I guess.

[@SpoonsHD]

Leia's men opened fire on Imperial Troops. Even if Rogue One never existed, her excuse that she's on a "diplomatic mission" goes out the fucking window once she opened fire on government officials. The point is Vader already knows she's lying.

[@assafgoldlust140]

maybe but its still far dumber when we know vader see her ship flying away from the battlefeld and after he saw the soldiers carrying the data into the ship

[@Hemerash]

Well she knows he knows...So that doesn't make her stupid but fearless and very... hopefull :-D

[@ARKAEOPTREX]

point is, one doesn't know exactly, and it does not matter, the scene is relevant in context of a opening scene and setting things up for the viewer. many things don't work, p.e. some senat still existing, the death star is comical, the force etc. etc. they didn't bother with greater explanations, because it was in favor of a working fantasy/adventure-movie not nessessary. adding more backstory and history to some popcorn-flick, which just make things more unbelievable, because you're pushed to think twice about things, is just downright stupid.

[@Rnune-zx7si]

she knows that he knows that she knws and he knows

[@alexturlais8558]

Cian O'Doherty If the British police stormed the American Embassy or stopped the French Ambassadors cars and opened fire, then the soldiers would defend themselves. It's not entirely outlandish.

[@SpanishInquisition8]

Can we all just agree here that the greatest part of this movie was the Darth Vader hall scene? That gave me chills

[@blackadder5517]

Which kind of puts the rest of the film into perspective...

[@BrickBuster2552]

No. It completely ruins Darth Vader as a character.

[@BrickBuster2552]

That was Anakin Skywalker. 20 years earlier.

[@Not_a_Lizard_]

"It ruins Darth Vader's as a character" Sorry, but I don't think you know jack shit about Darth Vader. His character was mostly developed in the comics, which I'm sure you haven't read, and that scene portrays Vader perfectly.

[@matsysmellsbetterthanyou]

@SKTW 890 the real question is why can't you spell P-S-Y-C-H-O? first of all, this is the internet and there are resources for this kind of thing. but more importantly, sound out what you wrote. phonetically, you wrote "an evil fizz-co". unless that's what you meant, which in that case... sure, Darth Vader is an evil fizz-co.

[@louisAudet]

I actually think Rogue one is the best “new” Star Wars.

[@hangoutwithdeggers]

Me too 👍🏼

[@bundeswehr7676]

..me too

[@goldengoat1737]

Toatally agree!

[@scabeiathaxnovastorm2559]

I think the Rouge one is the best star wars. Empire strikes back is close second.

[@sleekriki9504]

That's only because of the last scenes. It's an utter BS movie

[@brickguy0486]

Who else liked Rogue one?

[@lasttimecommenting]

No one. No one else liked it. Just you.

[@theoriginalman9426]

@@lasttimecommenting No one, no one else hated it, just you

[@terminationshock1356]

I liked the second part but the first 40 minutes or so are just an uninteresting introduction of bland and/or unlikable characters. Aso the guy in the armor with the respirator was totally useless.

[@Bramme1991]

I liked it alot actually, More than i did the force awakens. it's a good movie,

[@trollingisasport]

Liked as much or better than the sequels. Got the tone right just could have had a slightly better script

[@ironbear5073]

i hated this video but i couldn't stop watching

[@TRexTeaParty]

same

[@michaelzlatin9221]

Just like eating Tomacho.

[@coolfred9083]

Yeah I kept watching just to see what dumb thing he would say next

[@dice_plz8055]

So you said that Leia's credibility was undermined because she didn't actually physically do the fighting to get the plans. But the dude says provided by not something like captured by Princess Leia. Did she not provide the rebels on Yavin 4 with the plans? Did she not give the plans to the rebels? Also, in the opening crawl, it says that Leia is the custodian of the plans, aka she is overseeing them. Not once in the entire movie does it ever say or imply that Leia was the one who captured the plans. You are just scraping the bottom of the barrel with that argument. Also, about the Empire being good and the rebels being bad, that is war. People's morals stretch during times of war. Ever heard of the phrase 'the ends justify the means'? Basically, the rebels did all the terrible stuff in order to win the war. Sometimes you have to play dirty in order to win. The nuclear bombs that were dropped on a Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The US could've invaded Japan, but countless people would've died. Here, justification of dropping the bombs was that it was necessary to end the war. Need another example? During the American Civil War, Union general William T. Sherman used the concept of total war to devastate the south. Would the Union have won the war without Sherman burning Atlanta to the ground and destroying houses and such while cutting through the South? Maybe, but the justification was that it was necessary to win the war. See a common theme? Also, I don't know about you, but my definition of good doesn't include blowing up an entire planet, a city full of innocent people, and your own military compound, as well as killing a group of scientists, and slicing down rebels with just a lightsaber. Oh did I forget committing jedicide, as well as purposefully creating a civil war? Oh, what about choking your own officers and choking the captain of a ship with your hands? I think it is pretty clear who the good guys and the bad guys are. Next, Admiral Motti. I don't think Vader walks around and just force chokes people for no reason. I also don't think Vader brags about force choking people and shit. So do you think the admirals have seen what Vader is capable of. Most likely not. Now, for Tarkin taking the credit, that is what happens in the world. People take credit for other people's work all the time. How many names of soldiers who fought in WW1 and WW2 do you know? Maybe a handful, if that. Now, how many of the generals and leaders do you know? A lot more than soldiers. Who is the key to success for the generals? Soldiers. Do they get credit for victories? Sure, but not nearly as much as generals. Probably just like in Star Wars, casualties are just numbers. If a general dies in battle, it is a huge thing. But when a normal soldier dies, who really cares? It definitely matters, but still not as much as generals. The leaders are always the ones who get the credit, instead of those who actually did the work. You really scrapped the bottom of the barrel on this one, and I mean really scrapped it. Like you saw a few tiny scraps of criticism and decided that they were good enough to put in a video. If you are going to try and criticize movies, at least make the reasons sensible. All of these could be easily disproved with just some common sense of real life and Star Wars in general. Maybe you should actually watch the movie and then think about the reasons rather than using whatever ridiculous shit popped into your mind as a video.

[@aesircorporation1924]

Dammit, Nick! I could use some linebreaks here.

[@dice_plz8055]

AesirCorporation sorry I was pretty focused

[@JarlGrimmToys]

That’s what I was about to say. In a New Hope the line is “provided by Princess Leia”. Then he says “oh they were obtained by Princess Leia”. No he clearly said provided by.

[@denisemcnamara5266]

Everyone knows it was Manny Bothans who died to bring the plans to the rebellion. Mon Mothma said so herself.

[@dice_plz8055]

Billy C137 yes but that was only for the Second Death Star not the first

[@Voidhunter799]

These were some of the weakest points I have ever heard.

[@blackadder5517]

Huh, that's interesting. Because Rogue One just happens to be the weakest Star Wars movie I have ever seen.

[@TylerDehan]

Blackadder5 huh that's interesting because I'm weak.

[@mcmyn86]

How appropriate! You fight like a cow!

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

Blackadder5 One of the Best I’ve seen. Funny how different we are.

[@cristalroxas475]

mcmyn86 You fight like a farmer PD:I see youre men of culture

[@yamamitsu995]

I Love Rogue One, this video doesn't even really explains why Rogue One ruins Star Wars in fact, it helped save Star Wars from TFA really

[@NotAnYoutubeChannel]

Yeppp

[@Christopher-km8jk]

Gaaaaayyyyy

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I never saw the Death Star's exhaust port as a "plot hole" because the dang thing was protected as heck…otherwise the Trench Run Assault wouldn't have used its cinematography and editing to convey tension.

[@matthewalexander9277]

Not only that, but it was, you know, an exhaust port...It pushes things away by its very nature; it shouldn't suck them in.

[@infiniteflame2374]

The thing that bothered me was I always assumed the flaw was the exhaust port. Yet now thanks to Rogue One it is a deliberate reactor sabotage that is the flaw? So now Fanboys are saying good that solved that plot hole I always wondered why the Death Star exploded so easily. I never wondered that at all. I just assumed if you fire high energy weapons directly into a reactor it would, you know, explode.

[@PervySage13]

Luckily this same weakness was designed(by another spy?) in Starkiller base.

[@FaticusDolphinius]

mka2qg2s didn't they have a ship fly in and fire at the reactor directly? Seems pretty obvious that starkiller base would explode from that

[@jamoecw]

@robert ball - if you fire HE munitions at an unprotected nuclear reactor the HE explodes, destroying the reactor, but the reactor doesn't explode or go critical. most reactors are quite stable and need something more than a nudge to get them to explode. in fact nuclear reactors going critical don't explode in the way we usually think of (a nuclear explosion), the reactor gets so hot it creates plasma around it and the systems can't contain their coolant due to expansion. this spreads nuclear material into the atmosphere and gets the nuclear waste coolant to go into the atmosphere as well. it is pretty bad news, but not a nuclear explosion, and blowing it up won't get it to become a nuclear explosion either. basically he made the nuclear reactor into a nuclear bomb, that simply had to have certain parts fail for it to go boom, which can be achieved by having it get hit with some HE. though by Hollywood logic cars explode easily and things that produce lots of energy go boom when destroyed, so you aren't exactly wrong in your assumptions.

[@JohnnyBoyd107]

"Why didn't Vader just blow up her ship?" ....along with a whole bunch of known Rebels who probably know where their base is? Hmm, I wonder.

[@crowtservo]

Qui-gon Johnny Exactly. And I can imagine that before they captured Leia’s ship they merely suspected she was part of the rebellion. Capturing her with the plans would be the proof that they needed because remember that at that point one of the officers told Vader “Holding her is dangerous, if word of this gets out it could generate support for the rebellion in the senate.” OTOH, sending a phony distress signal and finding that “all aboard were killed” would make it look like Vader and the Imperial Navy were the good guys on a rescue mission. Obviously later on after everyone believed she died either on her ship or on Alderaan, it made it a lot easier for Tarkin to order her execution. But yeah, besides Leia, you got a whole ship of crew members who you can question and torture for information on the rebellion.

[@isaacbryce2748]

Doesn't seem much like a counterpoint. You want info about the base? Track and capture one of the other dozens of ships that escaped the battle, blow up the one with the plans that, if destroyed, exponentially increases your chance at victory.

[@WOranos]

Vader wasn't interested in information on the Rebellion. His one purpose was to recover the plans. Nothing else mattered. He couldn't destroy the ship because it would make it impossible to verify that the plans actually were there and the threat had been dealt with.

[@ivystorm8483]

Qui-gon Johnny ...and Vader could use the mind probe on the rebels, since Leia was capable of resisting it (a trick her adopted father taught her) so that they didn't have to track Han 's ship therefor the means of torchering the rebels would have been SOOOOOOOO much easier. Some may argue that the stormtroopers had to kill all the rebels in order to take control of the ship, but as was shown in the means of capturing princess Leia Organa, the could of set their guns to stun and carry the fainted crew to holding cells until they were able to function again to be intrigued and I bet a star they would have found the base quicker, Alderaan still intact since they had no means of doing so since they didn't need leia to tell them where the base was because one of the rebels cracked. Another thing is way didn't the empire just use the means of hyperspace travel to get the the rebel base faster? I guess for the plot and climax which makes since in the story world, not in the real world. BTW the rebels involved in rogue one were recognized. Few my hands hurt! XD

[@lasociedadloka]

It was obviously an inside job. Vader let them escape on purpose.

[@SuperiorSquid]

The comments actually entertained me more than the video, i didn't even watched it

[@jameschristensen1658]

This video literally has no valid points

[@expohshappyhour1460]

Pretty much

[@HEagle72]

It's almost as if Cracked and all these other assholes obtaining clicks by claiming "Star Wars is ruined" are really just leeches, seeing as they're dependent on them for content.

[@trollingisasport]

Or people that deserve to be granted continued existence

[@HallyVee]

What do you mean? All the objections to the plot points were perfectly valid. The fact that they don't affect whether we enjoyed the movie isn't relevant, because for some it did. Obviously not people with taste...

[@brentenhargrove4320]

Yea agreed

[@Prince_Luci]

I sincerely hope this is satire

[@whiteknight5100]

5 reasons KZbinrs ruin Star Wars

[@Zanollo5]

White Knight 5 or 5 reasons people ruin KZbin

[@Zanollo5]

Adrijana Radosevic #2 is so wrong....

[@brentcatherman8762]

# 5 Yes anonymity makes you brave # 4 They have a camera and an account. Not exactly luxury items. # 3 People have a device to watch this on and enough time to spare. Again not exactly luxury items # 2 That's debatable. # 1 Admittedly this video compelled me to think of every refutation I could, however, my opinion remains unchanged and I regret wasting my time on this drivel.

[@cosmicdarkmatter1128]

Or in this case...they drink they're own pee....

[@brentcatherman8762]

Most of what is presented here isn't factual it's opinion based whining from some jackass who couldn't think up anything better.

[@d_r317]

Call me crazy but having complex characters with actual feelings instead of bland Stereotypes makes the story more interesting.

[@joseaguilar3323]

darwin roessler All the characters in Rogue One were all bland stereotypes that we've seen a million times before.

[@JamesTWood]

Let's see: an orphan child who turns to a life of crime but has a heart of gold, a grizzled veteran who can't do the evil thing because he really has a heart of gold, robot Wash, some cannon fodder, against some bad guys who were so bad that they were really bad. Wow, the characters! I just can't get over how original they all were and how much I've never seen anything like that before. Also, I don't watch TV or movies and I don't know what 'feelings' are.

[@redcardinalist]

Just like Star Wars 1, 2 and 3 (not to mention 7) and, oh every other film (practically without exception out there). Presumably you hate the entire Star Wars franchise (because after all it consists entirely of these types of character). What exactly were you expecting from a Star Wars film?

[@jokullah]

Making characters that have't been made before is basically impossible

[@EzioTheProphet]

redcardinalist I expected force awakens not to be shit, was disappointed

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

"I'm not trying to cut down Leia".... Proceeds to cut down Leia. Rogue One is literally the best of the Disney SW films.

[@justinmadrid8712]

"the best of the Disney SW films" means nothing lmao.

[@raylast3873]

A bar so low that even the billionaire submarine can clear it.

[@tobroken1965]

This guy may not be funny, and he is not, but, he did something few actors in movies or video have done....... keep his finger off the trigger while handling a fire arm, muzzle control was lacking however I expect that was for the benefit of the viewer. Just an observation.

[@quewhyes7605]

I didn't think that they made the bad guys look good and the good guys look bad, I think they just made it more realistic because in the other Star Wars movies - yes they're supposed to be 'wars' - they had sides that were OBVIOUSLY BAD and OBVIOUSLY GOOD however if we look at REAL wars there are usually two sides doing what they need to do to win the war, which is what Rogue One is more like and is the reason Rogue One is more realistic. I noticed you mentioned the that they made the bad guys look good but you also mentioned that they made the Empire look like assholes and that you didn't like that... ? Ya see, what the filmmakers did was make the rebels and the empire more realistic by taking the obvious GOOD and EVIL away whilst simultaneously giving the audience a reason to hate the Empire thus still creating a morally GOOD and EVIL side like in real life. So MY conclusion is that Gareth Edwards was trying to make a REALISTIC Star Wars movie rather than making the child like good and evil stories we see in the rest of the family friendly Star Wars movies like The Force Awakens, so with that said, he made Rogue One different from usual Star Wars, but did not ruin Star Wars. - The StarWarsGuru

[@slenderspy6540]

PinningTens finally someone who understands

[@georgedang449]

Basically, Rogue One looks real and gritty, thus making previous Star Wars "adventures" look like they came out of comic books.

[@zipgow]

Making a prequel to a family fantasy film that is gritty and realistic is usually a dumb idea. As it was here.

[@quewhyes7605]

Brian C I think making another family film with the exact same plot as A New Hope was dumber. (The Force Awakens)

[@quewhyes7605]

Brian C oh and by the way I completely agree with you, the family friendly prequels made by George Lucas were much better 😉

[@jasonh7128]

If they didn't believe the Empire was building a death star, why did they want to surrender?

[@AgentExeider]

Did you watch the scene? The different rebel cells didn't all think the same way, as they just said, they had only NOW gathered their forces, thus implying that they had been operating as several groups, so one set of groups didn't believe Jyn while others did, hence the disagreement. Rebellions/Resistances do not operate as single unified structures like was portrayed in the original films, they generally operate as cell groups. This big meeting/gathering seemed to be a transition between going from a cell system to a more centralized alternative government structure, so they were disagreeing as separate groups and perhaps working to destroy the death star was more of a unifying event then we realized.

[@tafadzwamavunga7799]

Rogue one is my favorite Star Wars movie. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@milankostic2571]

Same here, Rogue One is amazing

[@michaelgray1803]

Youngsters the empire strikes back

[@acledfloyd]

Movie: "... provided by Princess Leia" Cracked: "Oh they were obtained by Princess Leia were they?" Um, no, that's not what he said.

[@acledfloyd]

Also remember when she provided them by delivering them to the base with Luke and Han?

[@moralityisnotsubjective5]

Seriously, pay attention. How did they get that idea from what he said?

[@andrewbuckner6319]

Can you actually listen to the video? That's not what he was saying at all, he's saying they took the time to thank princess Leia but just completely ignored everything the Rogue One characters went through. Also Mon Mothma mentions the death of many Bothans who died getting the plans for Death Star 2. So... your point is moot.

[@DampeS8N]

She provided them by recollecting R2D2 after reverse rescuing Luke and Han at the Death Star is what she fucking did.

[@eddiegloria9671]

It's about who is getting credit, and not the literal terminology.

[@eventide_64]

See when you say Princess Leia "Obtained" the plans, you're wrong. The clip you showed said they were "Provided" by her, not at all obtained. Hell, the title crawl of the original Star Wars says that a group of Rebel Spies got them, not Princess Leia. Another thing, Grand Moff Tarkin isn't stealing credit from Director Krennic. The clip of Tarkin you showed said HE was the one to come up with the battle station, once again your poor editing decisions disprove you. The Rebellion isn't incompetent, the fact that they split between not believing Jyn and surrendering is realistic, because let's face it, if someone heard about a battle station the size of a moon, they wouldn't believe it until they've seen it. The Rebellion as a whole didn't attack Scarif. A commander who decided to take some ships with him did. It's as if you didn't even watch this movie, and only got a summary from a friend or something.

[@xXSoulessniperXx]

ashtindo64 You deserve so many likes.

[@leeroyjenkins3522]

ashtindo64 agreed

[@connormitchell6446]

ashtindo64 ur so right and think about his point about leia lying like an idiot. If you were caught by the most famous JEDI KILLER IN THE GALAXY carrying critical information about his masters most powerfull weapon, what would any of us say? It wasnt me! Or you have got me confused with someone else. And now that I think about it, she was stalling because she gave R2 time to get to the escape pod instead of Vader tearing up the ship himself with all of his forces and the two imperials that noticed only saw an escape pod with no life forms so they correctly assumed it was a malfunction because of the damage on the ship or something.

[@jekubfimbulwing5370]

Watch Attack of the clones, you'll see the death star plans being handed to count dooku by the genosian ruler. So that's one thing they got wrong. The rebellion IS incompetent. Jyn is taken to meet with the rebel leadership, why? She's a person they're bringing in for one mission, she shouldn't be anywhere near the leadership or the main rebel base. Then to allow her to carry a blaster? If they got a mole/imperial plant by mistake, all it would take is one shot in chauffeurs back and a quick word with an imperial officer and Yavin IV would be a cratered wasteland! As for the attack on the research facillity, Krennek did more damage when he killed the scientists, The rebels couldn't even hit a shuttle parked on a landing pad that's directly in the way of their shots! that's strike 2 As for not believing Jyn, Jedda isn't that far away, with the speed ships fly through hyperspace you could get a reconnaissance flight to Jedda and back in time for the big meeting with the rebel leaders easy, the death star might not still be there but, a crater you could park a moon in is pretty good corroborating evidence that something big with a cannon powerful enough to splinter a planet was in the neighborhood recently. strike 3, the movie sucks! Bonus round. As for only a portion of the fleet being at Scarif? It took a rebellion within the rebellion to get the third act of the movie going, other wise, the rebellion would have ended right then and there. Luke and Obi Wan are still on Tatooine, Han gets killed by Jabba for not paying his debts. Alderaan is OK but Chandrila, being the home planet of Mon Mothma gets turned into an asteroid field by the death star in response to her bitching at the emperor in the senate BOOM, HEAD SHOT!

[@connormitchell6446]

Jekub Fimbulwing How does Count Douku getting the plans make Rogue One wrong?

[@emcats84]

This guy is not funny.

[@AmazingJayB51]

Yeah, he's quite annoying. I hate bullying but I wish someone will him! 😂

[@fancystormtrooper2459]

emcats84 they never are

[@ethanwatson6131]

What happened to Daniel and Soren and Swaim?

[@reybaca4081]

Eh, he's trying

[@kongwookieedon3303]

Nah man, I gotta disagree... Rogue one was awesome, it captured ' that ' feeling. It's important a Star Wars flick feels like Star Wars more than any other franchise. I'm from the 80s, and Rogue one took me back for a few hours. So shut up.

[@doctordoom85]

1) Um, you do realize that ship models are not limited to one per, right? Like how there's a ton of Star Destroyers out there? So unless they had reason to believe their specific ID was found out during a hectic battle (doubtful, you're usually focused on shooting ships down rather than going, "hey, let's figure out exactly what ID that ship is! I mean, we're trying to wipe out all these enemy ships but who knows, it could be useful shortly later!") Leia's lie could have worked. Yeah, it's Vader, he'd probably search the ship even if evidence suggested he was off-track, but what's Leia supposed to do? Simply pull a Bender and go, "welp, we're boned!" and admit everything? That's stupid. 2) "provided by" They never said she obtained them first. Also, he's talking to a bunch of pilots, most of whom they know will likely die, and are racing against the clock. Heaven forbid he not stop and talk about the life stories of the Rouge One cast. 3) Really? I think Tarkin being a slimy piece of shit who took advantage of other officers fits well, it adds to Leia's line about his foul stench if he has even a poor rep among some of his colleagues. Also, let's not act like this guy had a perfect track record, he was actually shocked that Leia lied about the base's location and stupidly ignored a safety concern that cost him everything. 4) I'm pretty sure every fan assumed Vader was Force-ing it up plenty between Episodes 3 and 4 so no, I think we all assumed Motti was a massive idiot already before Rouge One technically confirmed it. 5) I don't even know what you're arguing here. What, politicians and bureaucrats can be incompetent, wow, who knew? And you know, maybe, JUST MAYBE, Jyn and co. not getting all the credit is kind of the point. Sometimes people can make the ultimate sacrifice and not get much credit while others who contributed less or the same get way more credit. That's life. Sorry if that disappoints you but I don't think Star Wars is ruined because the movie chose to get real on how some soldiers don't get remembered properly.

[@SilortheBlade]

So Vader just was patrolling the galaxy looking for this model of ship in the hopes it was the one he saw? Come on man, don't be stupid. Leia knew she was had, but obviously was still playing it to try and bluff her way through since the Senate did still exist at the time. She hoped her diplomatic status would get her through. Yes this video is dumb, but go about explaining that in a better way.

[@stroppy3245]

doctordoom85 You're comment satisfies like every argument I had. Nice one

[@doctordoom85]

The Empire is kind of big, doesn't seem unreasonable they would have a Star Destroyer head toward any planet they could get to and capture any of this model to search it. Vader got lucky and his ship went to Tatooine. Big coincidence but that's fiction for you.

[@adamwespiser9209]

Yea, I agree. It makes sense in a bureaucracy to transfer a weapon project from someone within R&D to someone in operations, like Tarkin. Building and running a combat vessel are two very different things. There is also huge propaganda value to crediting surviving members of a critical mission with its success, not to mention in line with grooming Leia for command. Anyway, This video is super nitpicky, your response was at least as in depth.

[@eagle219406]

Well, in a decanonized story, Vader found them because a protocol droid (not threepio) betrayed their location.

[@jorybrosted7298]

your criticisms would be funnier and more clever if they actually made good points. most of them fall short of accurate

[@CrabTastingMan]

The points about "fighting Vader 5 minutes ago and then feigning innocence" and "sending Jyn & co. on a mission and then choosing not to believe her reports." were good points. I thought the same thing while watching the movie.

[@bufnipa]

Of couse not, how many of those corellian corvette can exist in the galaxy?? not used by the rebbelion? Leia's ship could be a totaly diferent ship, and having diplomatic imunity it is very easy to make that claim. Vader had no way to prove that Leia was with the rebelion or that she had the plans, all he had was a hunch.

[@vonsaponatheim3736]

And the mission Jyn & co. were given was to find Saw Guerrera and then to eliminate Galen Erso. Not to find out about a deathstar and how to destroy it.

[@MISFITNESS-x]

bufnipa yeah...And the soldiers on Leias ship just happen to be wearing the same uniforms that the soldiers that Darth Vader had just cut down were wearing. Also how does it make any sense that Darth Vader would see Leias ship jump into hyperspace, NOT lock onto her ships signal, but STILL decide to go to Tatooine where Leias ship is? He didn't know where her ship went, but still decided to go to Tatooine and see her ship? Makes literally zero sense.

[@FaticusDolphinius]

Jason Broughton I find it funny how when he explained the plot to rouge one he gets it completely wrong. Like jyn wasn't supposed to do anything about the Death Star she was captured to be questioned about the whereabouts of her father, the reason they don't believe her is because she wasn't asked to find anything about the Death Star itself plus she had no evidence and was suggesting a suicide mission.

[@marianadesilva9174]

Rogue 1 was the only Star Wars movie I’ve enjoyed since they started making them again

[@FleurvanhH.9954]

I actualy liked the space battle above Scarif.

[@KNG-fm1kj]

Best space battle in the whole Star Wars cinematic universe imo

[@bushisahomo]

@@KNG-fm1kj idk, RoTJ might hsve been better imo. I know RO was more flashy as far as like , ramming a star destroyer into a giant space shield generator, but the practical effects in Jedi just seemed more realistic imo. Now the part where Vaders ship and the death star show up? that's hands down better

[@lazyparadox4541]

Wait if your in a bunker, and your trapped and have no cell reception, then how are you getting this video to us? Or are we just not suppose to examine the details too closely and have fun with the concept, you know like, Star Wars

[@TimTE01]

The same way you saw 'Cloverfield.' Someone leaked the Footage.

[@igorkarsanov2374]

No because this video was trying to get a point across, and is also a comedy, unlike star wars. Edit: And it was made in a month max, paid for by ad rev, and written by one guy. Also unlike star wars.

[@irosencrantz882]

Alec Pridgen, leaked... in a Mason jar.😝🤤🤢

[@Atlas-FM8]

You think this is a real video? He's just doing this to keeps his mind occupied as he waits for death. The show's not real nor is the audience. We're all just part of his schizophrenic imagination.

[@celticwolff5429]

Two answers: 1. Cracked has a hard wired feed comin out of the bunker so Josh can send out information and only receive what they want him to see. 2. These segments were found with his corpse after Cracked remembered where the bunker was and they don't want to waste any content.

[@joe-cincorporated4484]

the reason the spy got no credit is bc it was a secret almost no one knew about and if they did know that they died in the movie

[@batmanlaughed800]

That and everyone who knew about Jyn and her group were gone by the time Leia got to Yavin with the plans. And Leia and her crew never met any of Jyn's people. They arrived "after" they were already on the planet and cut off from communication.

[@michwashington]

Batman Laughed which is stupid!

[@Chicago-yx2tu]

No the reason for that is that jyn wasn't invented back in 1977

[@batmanlaughed800]

@Mich: why? You say it's stupid, but why is it stupid that Leia would not have had contact with the crew that stole the plans? Do you think Military leaders ever meet the people who do the spying for their country? NOPE! And the reason the main leadership of the rebellion had dispersed was because they had elected not to stay and fight. Makes perfect sense why they were gone, and why Leia and her ships crew wouldn't have met Jyn and her band of misfits.

[@tylerlean8393]

Joe-C Incorporated plus he didn't say Leia obtained the plans he said she provided them

[@filipdjokovic3675]

All of your arguments sound like this: "how did no one in 1977 know that someone in 2016 will direct and produce Rogue one so they could be on the correct terms with the lore".

[@bhootson6516]

Ruined? I would say "Cracked" has smoked too much crack. Rogue One is one of the best in the franchise.

[@justinmadrid8712]

I love how the Death Star was so colossal, so cool, so iconic, they even made an entire movie about the struggle just to acquire the plans to the battle station. Then in 'Rise of Skywalker', it turns out they can just build Death Stars like hotcakes, creating over ONE-THOUSAND Death Stars, all able to be compacted into a tiny gun that can attach to a Star Destroyer...

[@copetweets1678]

Loved rogue one, thought it tied in perfectly to a new hope

[@VirtualVirtuoso101]

Cassian was a member of the CIS... starting when he was 6

[@AmateurSpaceman]

And here I thought Rogue One fixed a gaping plot hole in the original Star Wars.

[@trollingisasport]

While the last Jedi tore open a gaping butthole in the franchise

[@TheJRDProductions]

​@@trollingisasport I don't even consider the Disney trilogy canon. I really gave them a shot too, but my heart just can't accept them as part of the story.

[@kyloren4643]

It isn't a plothole

[@ILikeVids-lf1vs]

@@TheJRDProductions me too it’s just annoying now cuz I love mandalorian but it’s starting to go into first order stuff which is starting to relate to the new trilogy which I hate cuz I’ve always thought of it as really bad fan fiction all by itself

[@arunchapell-daudhar7507]

@@ILikeVids-lf1vs what first order stuff? It’s still the empire.

[@martincurtiss2459]

Rogue One was just a extended story that was part of A New Hope I’m surprised someone hasn’t cut the two movies together into a cohesive story It was far better than the last two movies.

[@1987retroman]

Watching this dude attempt to be a comedian is always entertaining.

[@yamamitsu995]

I agree

[@imperialweaponstechnician8026]

Damn

[@jameschristensen1658]

so he achieved his goal

[@kenpoarniceguy1]

I dunno, sounds like he's trying too hard

[@USSResolute]

It is normal for a bureaucracy to screw over its most valuable players and then unjustly ascribe credit to those who deserve it least. We've probably all had a supervisor who earned a bonus on OUR work. I had one who refused to promote me because he wanted his bonus to keep coming.

[@Hal-uq5qv]

The ventilation shaft. Galen designed this as a weakness that can be exploited by enemies of the Empire and that it's implied in Rogue One that the Grand Moff as well as Palpatine did not know or were not aware it. If that's the case, then why were defensive turrets in the trench in A New Hope? It makes the whole point for Rogue One illogical.

[@burns3692]

I liked Rouge One, but you pointed out some major flaws there that can’t be ignored.

[@AnnoyingMoose]

You watched a movie about make-up??

[@jamesknight3022]

No he didn't.

[@jamesknight3022]

Vader didn't blow up the ship because he needed the location of the rebel base. Leia got credit cause she litterly provided the plans. She also saved the plans with quick thinking, she faced torture, basically sacrificed her planet by not providing the location of the base and escaped prison. She earned the credit. This quy just doesn't know how to watch movies.

[@RoddThunderheart]

Exactly.

[@RoddThunderheart]

@@jamesknight3022 Oh Jesus... You borrowing Patrick's line "You're watching movies wrong..." ***Exasperated sigh***

[@PozerAdultRacingTeam]

WTF?I loved Rogue One.Even if you nit pick it.

[@Damar158]

I love the part where Tarkin can wipe out an entire planet, but him taking credit for Krennic's work is clearly going too far!

[@raylast3873]

Correct. The fact that Tarkin had a minimal role in the project that made him seem like a supervillain makes him seem like a lot less of a supervillain. Wiping out planets looks badass and evil. Taking credit from your more competent subordinates also looks evil, but not very badass. Not really surprising, is it.

[@thefilmwhisperer1105]

Vader couldn’t just “blow up the ship” (Leia’s ship) because apparently the Senate was still something to worry about, as established in Episode IV when Vader argues with an officer about it. Leia was a prominent official and kidnapping her, let alone KILLING her, would have generated MORE sympathy for the rebellion in the Senate. Plus, there may not have been official confirmation that she was on that ship. As for all other arguments, Rogue One was brilliantly written in a way that makes sense with what was established in the movies, because otherwise, yes, it would be a valid question about why we haven’t heard of these people before. And this movie actually makes the empire look less dumb because now we know that the Death Star didn’t have that fatal flaw because of dumb engineering. And the rebellion changed its mind on surrendering when it saw that the “Rogue One” crew could make great strides on their own, allowing them to swoop on in! Now, if we can just have a movie that explains why the 2nd Death Star allowed an entire SHIP to fly through it, haha. So...no. TLJ ruined Star Wars. Not Rogue One. Rogue One is actually the best of the Disney Star Wars movies so far.

[@gen4john660]

How can rogue one ruin a franchise that you clearly don't like? cracked shits on Star Wars on a regular. I know that's what cracked does but they are particularly harsh on Star Wars to the point I question whether they like it or if they say they do to be PC

[@xdbxcooperx]

ive enjoyed quite a few cracked videos about star wars. the boba fett one in particular. but this one sucked pretty bad. I don't mind making fun of star wars at all and I love star wars. but be funny. this wasn't funny. I don't even get the complaints at all. I said it in a previous comment but ill say it again, drinking piss?? uh ok?

[@shaunrosenberg4568]

They are just trying to complain. But he makes no good points at all here. I mean did he really expect that Vader wasn't force chocking people before A New Hope or that people weren't going to give credit to the princes? They mentioned that many people died to get the plans in the very first movie.

[@jimrankin6634]

They like SW, they hate themselves.

[@billymanziel5666]

That's because Star Wars sucks. The most overrated thing to ever be created.

[@gfarrell80]

I think his mimicking of the A New Hope death star meeting room scene shows this guy has pretty good reverence of the original trilogy.

[@STEP6192]

This movie is perfect. Let's talk about the Disney Sequels! XD

[@muxamoose1012]

Stephen King the sequels have flaws but are better than rouge one

[@STEP6192]

@@muxamoose1012 Everything has always some sort of flaws. The Disney sequels have failed to recapture the magic of the original 6 movies, way too occupied to follow their political agenga. Rogue one instead succedeed in his work, with with good, genuine characters and a plot that fits in the main story without PISSING on it. Sequels do the opposite

[@lordspongebobofhousesquare1616]

@@muxamoose1012 in the last Jedi the rebel admiral crashed her ship to an ENTIRE fleet and destroyed them all. That scene looks cool but it means that space battles are futile. Why didn't people from the republic or empire tried to make hyperspace auto crashing ships this whole time?

[@lordium1848]

Lord Spongebob of House Squarepants True, why not explode the Death Star with a few ships at the hyper speed.

[@kyloren4643]

@@muxamoose1012 yeah

[@ramtac33033]

Strange, everything thing you just said was completely wrong

[@AllyStrikesBack]

Leia: what are you talking about? im on a diplomatic mission" Vader: I just saw your ship leaving Scarif like 20 minutes ago!

[@cwduncan63]

I wanted to shove a Lightsaber in my ear after watching this video.

[@rosslewallen6167]

I pretty much cannot believe that I spent 39 seconds of my life watching you..

[@ladiesman1ate7]

Rogue 1 was the best stars since empire strikes back. Period.

[@fundhund62]

Nope 😂 The only film worse than Rogue One was The Force Awakens..

[@lowkeykarnak]

That's not really saying much. When someone says Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath was the greatest Black Sabbath album since their debut album, you know it must be really great, because so were the three albums in between them. The best Star Wars movie since Empire on the other hand is still a piece of shit, albeit not as big a piece of shit as everything that came in between. For what it's worth though, I think Return was the greatest since Empire, and the last Star Wars movie that actually was worth watching at all. It wasn't even inferior enough to Empire that I ever consciously thought to consider that a Star wars movie could suck until the prequels came along. Also, with Rogue One by the time I started caring just enough about it to make an effort to remember the names of the characters, they all were dead anyway, and wouldn't be returning for any sequels anyway. The moral is that if you're going to make a movie, try to make it interesting from as close to the beginning as possible, rather than during the last half hour or so.

[@ladiesman1ate7]

Lowkey Lyesmith I stopped reading your comment after the word sabbath

[@lowkeykarnak]

@@ladiesman1ate7 ok, cool.

[@tsdt4ever]

@@fundhund62 you obviously haven't seen the Rise of Skywalker

[@willhaddock1347]

Long before this movie it was revealed how incompetent the Rebel alliance and the Empire both were. They hid Anakin SKYWALKER's son with his only living relatives and didn't even bother to change his last name, and despite this, the Empire never located him.

[@alissonlares2926]

You say that because you didnt see the future, the next star was episode will be the worst movie ever made.

[@fishfingers4548]

Whilst I nearly wet myself with laughter when I saw Mon Mothma backing away from the fight; I didn't feel that Rogue 1 was the steaming pile of mess that some of the other SW films have been.

[@MoFiTheMagnificent]

*vader chokes stormtrooper* Stormtrooper: choke me harder daddy Vader: what? Stormtrooper: what?

[@dillwad88]

Turtle neck i think i saw that movie it was on redtube wasnt it, i really think it shouldve got mainstream release though the characters all were fully fleshed out

[@zachall101]

dillwad88 ha ha ha ha

[@mariomatar2543]

What about the fact that the geonocians are the ones that created the death star plans in the prequel trilogy?

[@KrazyKryptonian]

No, The Force Awakens ruined Star Wars. Rogue One is exactly pretty good while TFA, to quote Buford Tannen, is “duded-up, egg-suckin’, gutter trash.”

[@c.j.martin717]

Son of a Sith Force Awakens blended new characters and nostalgia to create a Star Wars movie that all generations of Stat Wars fans can enjoy. Not sure how that would ruin the franchise.

[@roger7500]

Stupid comment

[@sap20lj]

C.J. Martin it ruined and killed Luke Skywalkers character. Fyi Luke is the choosen one not REY!

[@conatgion]

I would really like if this show showed us that nitpicking is all for fun and not serious by next week's show being "5 reasons why Rogue One makes Star Wars way better"

[@LUCKO2022]

It doesn't make it better. Disney Star Wars films are non canon to me and they can fuck off.

[@conatgion]

You seem to take this really seriously.

[@LUCKO2022]

Yes I do. Disney is just milking the series for as much money as they can get. All they are doing is living off the nostalgia from the original trilogy. Star Wars was DONE in 2005 when the last Episode was released. The true ending is Episode 6. That is where Lucas intended it to be done, and it should have stayed that way. I was AGAINST more Star Wars films when they announced it back in Oct 2012, and I STILL AM AGAINST IT.

[@kevo1978]

Pixar The Great Well thankfully no one gives a fuck what you think!!!!

[@LUCKO2022]

kevo1978 Good because I don't give a fuck about what so called Star Wars fans think either. Not a single one of them know the series at all. They just like pew,pew,pew, oh lightsabres, oh Han Solo and Chewie. They know jack shit about anything because they are too dumb to connect to the deeper level of the films.

[@liaml.e.5964]

I'll take Rogue One over tge new trilogy any day.

[@nazmaster1]

This movie felt so nostalgic and its best movie disney has produced after mando the rest are mediocre or terrible

[@tidepods5506]

"Makes Star Wars a comedy" Also the Sequel Trilogy: *Rey kills one of the strongest Sith of all time by putting up two lightsabers to defend his force lightning*

[@Bramme1991]

HAH, Rogue one did NOT ruin Star WARs...

[@razmw]

and your reasons are ?

[@ericbosse]

They should make s follow up reasons why Cracked shouldnt be making Star Wars videos

[@Taiko206]

As far as i'm concerned Star Wars consists for me of episodes 1 to 6 and the Clone Wars, those movies Disney made afterwards should never have existed, and to me they will never exist. Just like tthe Abrams movies of Star Trek aren't Star Trek for me, same with Star Trek Discovery. they're abominations.

[@RedFeralWolf]

They said provided. And those other people don't matter. Spy's and secret agents don't matter to history. Plus Lea wasn't all that interesting to begin with. There's no Jedi in the universe atm and there's only 2 Sith so how many people have seen them in action.

[@hakimibnobaydah]

You don't know that. Many jedi escaped Order 66

[@aramb.5628]

100 Jedi after Order 66. 3 at 0 ABY

[@hakimibnobaydah]

And also, the people who actually matter, DON'T matter? how stupid are you? he didn't say rogue one was bad, he was pointing out the flaws in it

[@johnmichaels5582]

"To make more room for Marvel moves and turn us all into communists" lmao

[@bennettcowan1508]

So are these guys running out of content or are they just picking random things apart

[@youknowwhatever8649]

both

[@wanpakudanpu]

Star Wars = clicks. Any of the content is besides the point. This is why KZbin started looking at retention time. I'm sure 90% watch about the first 30 seconds and stop.

[@AmaranthOriginal]

"Picking random things apart?" You mean the thing that has fueled Cracked for the last...I dunno, how long has Cracked been doing web series, because at least that long. Did you think you'd clicked on a different channel or something? I'm trying to think of another reason you might be under the impression that the people who have run After Hours for the last seven years might have just started picking random things apart.

[@victorcates9330]

it's the internet. Star wars continues to be a safe fallback. The clicks you get pissing off or gently stroking fanboys prevents ever running out of content. And the internet is for dumb picking apart. that and pornography.

[@DavidJohnson-mo7fq]

bennett cowan both

[@3thosmusic22]

Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars with The Last Jedi

[@3thosmusic22]

DraculaCronqvist to be honest I enjoyed The Force Awakens more than The Last Jedi

[@theoriginalman9426]

@DraculaCronqvist Why? GIVE ME A DANG EXPLANATION INSTEAD OF JUST READING MY COMMENT AND SAY NOTHING!!!

[@virgogaming6488]

TLJ is the only interesting Disney Star Wars film that doesn't nostalgia pander like their others do.

[@MajickCobra]

Wow! All this from a guy who drinks his own pee? I'm out.

[@JimmyPunkWrestling]

Florri Faustino moonshine, not pee!

[@anthonyhill9445]

Well the shit he spews out smells like it.

[@madpoetsociety2917]

What, just because he doesn't like a movie you like? That sounds full of shit to me.

[@MajickCobra]

Liz Selvia Did I say I was pissed off because he didn’t like it? He is entitled to his opinion and I respect that. I’m not a fan of the delivery because it is a bunch of meaningless drivel.He is welcome to his opinion of the movie and I am entitled to my opinion of the video content.

[@MajickCobra]

I initially said it is difficult to take his review seriously when he opens with drinking a jar marked "Pee". But since this appears to be very upsetting for you, have a nice day.

[@cerezadarkmoon969]

I disagree with literally everything in this video.....

[@razmw]

lol you totaly destroy is argument.

[@TRPH3]

He said Leia "provided" the Death Star plans, not obtain. She did provide them.

[@danielhughes7219]

I really like this movie. Only one major flaw which has never in any coverage of this movie been mentioned or reference to the BOTHANS, in new hope mon mothma clearly said many bothans died getting these plans

[@jaymeehudson404]

Love your 'office' (old tech stuff), but don't agree... Rogue One, IMO, is the best Star Wars film since the OT - period.

[@frenchbread4476]

Vader knew they had the plans in the originals. They were literally gunning down the ship lmao. And making the good guys questionably bad or good is better for the franchise. It introduces depth which even without rouge one was already being pushed through cannon and legends

[@notme-sm6zb]

The Empire is evil. Their weapon was called the "DEATH STAR"

[@weaponxjediofthelinkueicla6445]

Rogue one is actually the only recent sw movie I like . First one that shows originality

[@warrioroflight6872]

Unpopular opinion: I agree with most of what this guy says and I think he is fairly funny and that it is wrong to bully him. Popular opinion: Rogue One is a good movie, but it doesn't make a lot of logical sense because many entertaining movies don't. Even more popular opinion: The sequel trilogy sucks.

[@stojr]

Sorry weak sauce. Not really feeling any of these criticisms

[@larimer46]

I don’t want to be, “that guy” but I am pretty sure rogue one doesn’t end where episode 4 starts. It could’ve taken days for the empire to find Leia’s ship since you can’t follow a ship through hyperspace. The next best thing would be a tracker and even it could’ve taken a few hours to days to catch up with the tantive 4. Obviously this is all proposed speculation but it does add up to the movies’ logic and the science in Star Wars. As for why Vader didn’t blow up the ship, it could be because he knew Leia was on board and took it as an opportunity to try to find out where the rebel base was as we see later in episode 4. He obviously doesn’t care about the ship or anyone else on it so he blew it up afterwards, hopefully destroying the plans if they were still there.

[@garrettlarson2914]

Leia is his daughter .. she does have the force .. you really don’t think the chosen one was strong enough to sense that ? He never wanted to kill his children he never could. That was part of the conflict within him. Always took it easy on Luke in their duels as well.

[@jeffgoblue]

According to newly released canon (the short story told from the POV of Captain Antilles that opens the collection “From A Certain Point of View”), ANH starts approximately one hour after the end of Rogue One.

[@jmac2050]

IT'S been 30 years and you still struggle to nick pick

[@jonathanhodges3673]

Ha! It couldn't have ruined Star Wars any worse than Episode 8 and 9. Those movies about made me puke.