Should you upgrade to 4400MHz memory? - Patriot Viper Steel Series Review

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@mkesl
@mkesl 5 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the XMP actually worked.
@fredmcgovern302
@fredmcgovern302 3 жыл бұрын
It worked fine on my Apex
@Nordern
@Nordern 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you get performance differences on Ryzen processors due to the infinity fabric, compared to 2400mhz at same CL?
@C4CH3S
@C4CH3S 5 жыл бұрын
It's basically imposible to get over 3600mhz on ryzen. Infinity fabric kinda tops out at 3200. Ryzen 3000 will probably be able to hit 4000mhz though.
@Nordern
@Nordern 5 жыл бұрын
@@C4CH3S I have a 3200mhz kit, running on 3400 stable, over that not so much Ryzen 2700x Is there any hard cutout we know off on ryzen ?
@C4CH3S
@C4CH3S 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nordern if you check some benchs you will se that after 3200 the scaling falls off a cliff. speed gets better over 3200, but way slower than for example 2666 to 3000. The difference between 3200 and 3600 is minimal compared to that difference As far as how fast can you run current bdie on ryzen, I would say 3600cl16 on a decent kit with active cooling. The memory controller is just plain bad, so I would say 3600 is a cutout for stable ram speeds.
@C4CH3S
@C4CH3S 5 жыл бұрын
@RavenPrecept infinity fabric only scales son much. An this memory kit would not go over 3600mhz stable on ryzen because of how the memory controller is made.
@C4CH3S
@C4CH3S 5 жыл бұрын
@RavenPrecept it probably does the same as any other high end bdie. This kit is not a crazy new memory technology, this kit is just good old very binned bdie. Maybe 3600 cl14 daily for this kit (if you are lucky) and maybe over 3800 if you are benching. (with active cooling)
@LiftedSeven
@LiftedSeven 5 жыл бұрын
In 2014 people told me I am crazy for the fact that I claimed higher frequency RAM improves FPS. I was guided by my own tests, when I overclocked 1333mhz to 1866mhz and got around 15-20 FPS boost in 1080p Battlefield Hardline. 5 years later everyone is casually talking about it like it's a fact. Though I was laughed at on the forums, or at the very least looked at with skepticism, for saying it boosts FPS. Surprise-surprise
@PrintAimGame
@PrintAimGame 5 жыл бұрын
Tests 5 years ago showed a minimal effect on DDR3. It's only been since the advent of DDR4 that it's really made a difference. I'm not sure what changed in that timeframe tbh, but it wasn't some conspiracy against you. Hardware changed.
@jaybee0507
@jaybee0507 5 жыл бұрын
Back then it was basically the same thing with I5 vs i7. People were basically calling you out stupid for getting an i7. Plus, today those i7s especially with fast memory are still rocking hard, while old i5s are starting to show their age.
@Pillokun
@Pillokun 5 жыл бұрын
Back then we did not had that powerful gpus as we have now, even when you oc the cpu the videocard is bottle necked by the cpu especially at 1080p and even in some cases in some games at 1440p. Upping the the frequency of the ram will give the system higher bandwidth and latencies will get a bit lower as well. For example when you are in a game and you look up in the sky then the fps number will get super high as the scene is not that gpu intensive but when you look down you once again are first and foremost gpu bound and having faster ram will not help as much in that case, but overall avg fps will be higher then before. Back in 2014 we had like 980 or 980ti as the fastest gpu out there, and pretty much every game was gpu "bottlenecked" but now with pascal and turin high end gpus fast ram is very important part.
@jaybee0507
@jaybee0507 5 жыл бұрын
Pillokun, i beg to disagree a little bit. We have a had plenty cpu bottlenecked games then and far before that. Even though gpu might have been the bottleneck more times than cpu, there have always been medium or low settings in games to ease that gpu load for high frame rate/refresh rate gaming. And i am talking way before nvidia 9-series. Gtx980ti was a hell of a card to push cpus to their knees. It’s just that 120+ hz monitors were kinda more rare for example in the era of nvidia 6 and 7 series, but people have still played high frame rate games like counter strike even far before those. Actually the first game that made appreciate high frame rate was Doom (1993). Those pentium processors blew your mind paired with your favorite crt monitor.
@noth606
@noth606 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, this has been the case continually ever since the '90's, demonstrated in repeated tests that have been replicated independently countless times. But people are dumb and always assume that if they themselves can't make something work it means that it can't be done. Unfortunately stupid people are simply too stupid to realize that there actually are people who are smarter and more competent than they are and thus can do stuff they can't.
@lm_dccxl4078
@lm_dccxl4078 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows you cant see more that 3200mhz24fps on ram, pointless video.
@RCrider185
@RCrider185 5 жыл бұрын
So true everyone was born with this knowledge, we are genetically predisposed of know everything from birth which is why your comment is...pointless :p
@noth606
@noth606 5 жыл бұрын
The Dore Bah, yet it has been done even on DDR3 you muppet.
@llothar68
@llothar68 5 жыл бұрын
Thats why you put RGB on the ram to see faster.
@swiitchy4882
@swiitchy4882 4 жыл бұрын
My man playing on laptop
@skycorrigan6511
@skycorrigan6511 5 жыл бұрын
Damn dude. Your subs went through the roof. I remember when it was less than 10k
@ericdeltoro8484
@ericdeltoro8484 5 жыл бұрын
The Hitman is a professional assassin and DEMANDS the most advanced memory kits on the market!
@kirkkarnage6344
@kirkkarnage6344 5 жыл бұрын
You should have done 1080p. There is alot of people that would buy high speed ram for high refresh rate 1080p gaming. 144hz 240hz
@Alex-oj8po
@Alex-oj8po 5 жыл бұрын
You should do some low latency testing with this kit, getting it running at c14 3733Mhz would probably have incredible results. I just recently got a 4000Mhz Hyper X kit and I'm seeing nice results at c14 3200Mhz on a Ryzen 1700, going to see if I can tweak it further to go beyond 3400.
@joemama-js6hv
@joemama-js6hv 5 жыл бұрын
getting real close to that 100k I see. well done chief! finally some recognition for this beer loving geek friend of ours.
@annakudriavtsev2510
@annakudriavtsev2510 5 жыл бұрын
Technically the memory is only running at 2200 MHz. DDR means Double Data Rate, 4400 "MHz" is actually 4400 MT/s
@siemajestembozik
@siemajestembozik 2 жыл бұрын
Umm every ram works like this
@sciencegirl100
@sciencegirl100 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, as usual! Memory overclocking is always a little stargne to me.
@chrisb9726
@chrisb9726 5 жыл бұрын
Thing is, any gains in speed from the RAM are going to be somewhat dependent on a couple subtimings in particular--that is if you have a high memory speed and a super high latency in any subtiming, you'll find you don't really gain all that much performance.
@AcidRP
@AcidRP 5 жыл бұрын
There is a tiny Italian man drowning in the background
@joannaatkins822
@joannaatkins822 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Brief, informative, and to the point. I'm currently running a Ryzen 5 1600x on an all core 4ghz @ 1.35v, 16gb of Corsair Dominator RAM running 3200mhz CL16,18,18,32 @ 1.36v, and a GTX 1060 6gb from MSI. Considering the time I have put into these overclocks I'm confident the CPU can go faster, but the RAM has been picky. I don't think my rig could handle more RAM speed.
@Linets.
@Linets. 5 жыл бұрын
Tried overclock my ram above 2666 with 1600 3.4ghz but dont work... I would wanna overclock all but I dont understand all.. Now trying overclock 1060 6gb I got core in 180 and mem on 1000 not 100% stable yet but aroind 160 and 900 is maybe the spot.
@TheRogueBro
@TheRogueBro 5 жыл бұрын
@1:28 had some video stutter there? I blame windows updates probably maxing your PC while encoding lol. Awesome video as always.
@pipoper101
@pipoper101 5 жыл бұрын
This guy prolly drank a few beers before editing/rendering, lol.
@silasmayes7954
@silasmayes7954 5 жыл бұрын
Was kinda hoping this would get on a ryzen system. Might have compatability issues running up to that speed.
@mrdot1126
@mrdot1126 5 жыл бұрын
i would test this ram with a 2700x overclocked... cuz AMD is more memory clock sensitive
@thomast6907
@thomast6907 5 жыл бұрын
MR Dot1 Worthless trying, the IMC in the 2700X and other Ryzen chips can’t handle such highly clocked RAM
@Nighterlev
@Nighterlev 5 жыл бұрын
False. Ryzen benefits just as much as Intel does from highly over-clocked RAM. Ryzen is no different here. You wouldn't see much of a difference in the results at all with a 6c/12t Ryzen CPU vs the 6c/12t 8700k.
@Nighterlev
@Nighterlev 5 жыл бұрын
@RavenPrecept False. Ryzen benefits just as much as Intel does from highly over-clocked RAM. Ryzen is no different here. You wouldn't see much of a difference in the results at all with a 6c/12t Ryzen CPU vs the 6c/12t 8700k.
@Cafe_TTV
@Cafe_TTV 5 жыл бұрын
Did you bump up your system agent and IO voltage? It's nigh impossible to hit these speeds if you're at like 1.1V.
@Spacecomber
@Spacecomber 5 жыл бұрын
I like checking out what you have going on here. Thinking about a comparison of memory speeds on performance, I might have tried to break it down into some theoretical/synthetic benchmarks (memory benchmarks and CPU benchmarks) to see what the potential for improvement might be and then looked at user scenarios like games and maybe something else, like video encoding, to see some "real world" results. Would have been more work, though, and maybe not much to show for it, given the results that you did get.
@TheCptnOfFail
@TheCptnOfFail 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well this will work with the new stuff from AMD later on. Great B-roll by the way, it looks great in 360p
@TexasTimelapse
@TexasTimelapse 5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting on this too.
@RojasTKD7
@RojasTKD7 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know Patriot "fast"RAM kits not being able to run at advertised speeds seems to be a common theme from my limited experience.
@Diapolo10
@Diapolo10 5 жыл бұрын
Currently sporting an i9-9900k @ 4.9 GHz (clocks were mostly stable at 5 GHz, but not enough to my liking at 1.4V, so I shifted it down a bit) with 32 GB of 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM. Honestly, while 3200 MHz is by no means bad, I think I'd benefit from faster memory because I do things that utilise it a lot.
@H31MU7
@H31MU7 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work, dude, especially on the hitman results. I'm glad I went with some relatively inexpensive (for the time) 3600MT/s memory.
@floki6481
@floki6481 4 жыл бұрын
So I recently grabbed a 2 kits of Patriot Viper Steel 4400Mhz 2x8. One stick has a different XMP profile and says its part number in CPU-Z is 4000 C19 instead of 4400 C19. Also without removing the heatspreader I can see that the memory stick that has a different XMP also physically looks different under the heatspreader compared to the other 3 sticks of RAM. So did I get a memory kit with a 4000 C19 memory module in a 4400Mhz kit?
@Carnyzzle
@Carnyzzle 5 жыл бұрын
I'm running a Ryzen 5 2600 with Corsair vengeance 16GB running at DDR4 3066. It's rated at 3200 but 3066 is close enough for me.
@sjarken3979
@sjarken3979 5 жыл бұрын
I had same problem, then i did raise the voltage slightly, something like 0.002 volt and then i had 3200mhz without problems. Before that it wouldnt run 3200mhz without crashing, and with the voltage on auto. Worth a shot, as you will get some performance increase. Just dont adjust the voltage too high.
@ShallowPlane
@ShallowPlane 5 жыл бұрын
I have Corsair vengeance 16gb 3000mhz overclocked to 3200mhz at 1.36 and works a treat on bf5 high settings 1080p 60fps
@Texas769
@Texas769 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could also start reviewing drinks and beers lol... love your channel and content. I hope you keep growing
@guyfawkes8873
@guyfawkes8873 5 жыл бұрын
From what I understand it's actually not the memory controller on Ryzen that can't handle it, it's the Infinity Fabric. That's the reason they're decoupling mem clock and infinity fabric clock on Ryzen 2.
@hateusxora
@hateusxora 5 жыл бұрын
*_time to go download it!!!_*
@MatWilson2612
@MatWilson2612 5 жыл бұрын
I have a very similar system to this and I am interested to see what the difference is in gaming, especially CSGO as I play that a lot. How did you do your testing for it? I'm really keen to replicate what you did and compare. I have a 8700k delidded at 5.2GHz on an Aorus Gaming 7 Z370, with 16GB of GSkill Trident Z RGB 3000Mhz CL16 @ 3900mhz CL16 and a founders 1080 at 2126mhz on the core and I cannot remember the memory for the life of me.
@General_Griffin
@General_Griffin 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible for you to test this RAM kit on something like an R5 2600?
@sjarken3979
@sjarken3979 5 жыл бұрын
That could be interesting, as the latency on this ram is quite high while the frequency is also high. It might improve performance vs. low latency 3200Mhz ram, or not. Would like to see a test of that.
@freepok
@freepok 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, I have a weird kit, hyper X fury 2400Mhz cl 15 are OCed to 2933Mhz cl 13. Can't get 3000Mhz, crash everytime, no matter the voltage. timings are 13-16-16-28-278 final if I remember correctly
@josedelguisgado9094
@josedelguisgado9094 5 жыл бұрын
which model of atx box using in this video?
@1ManWrenching
@1ManWrenching 5 жыл бұрын
I’m at 3000 C15. I would never give up latency for speed. I’d like to see what you can get this ram up to at C15.
@LevashovLIVE
@LevashovLIVE 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same memory kit Patriot Memory PVS416G440C9K. Managed to overclock it to 4400 Mhz at timings when 17-17-17-36 of 1.47 v. (ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI APEX Z390). In Russia it costs 170$. G.skill will cost 2 times more expensive.
@DrearierSpider1
@DrearierSpider1 5 жыл бұрын
These tests really should've been run at 1080p IMO. I agree with what you said about high end use cases, but you should still test using scenarios that will create a CPU bottleneck, as that will show memory speed differences. There's a reason reviewers test Pentiums with high end GPUs even though it's totally unrealistic.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 5 жыл бұрын
My FX is still way faster than my Titan Xp... There is no point testing high res for CPU sided things, nothing is fast enough for it, LOL! I'm shocked he didn't test 720p instead to be honest. My laptop with GTX 1070 (mobile, so slightly more CUDA cores than desktop, I have it overclocked to 2 Ghz) and 8750H is "enough" for 1080p (120 Hz panel), but honestly, it could use a better GPU for even 1080p... My main system is over 2x the fps of my Titan Xp, but unfortunately my FX board can't hold 4x GPU to test to see if it can handle it. PS: at 4k resolution, FX-8350 at stock speeds is probably fast enough for duel Titan Xp, though probably just short of duel Titan RTX, however, FX overclocked by 20% is super easy on an AIO (I have mine at 5.5 Ghz on phase cooling just for LOLs, interestingly, power consumption is about half of expected with the 80c lower core temps... So that's cool from a scientific test showing efficiency vs thermals. Max temp is below 0c on the core vs near thermal limits, almost makes up for the huge compressor, so that's crazy). So my setup probably could handle duel Titan RTX, and even a 120mm AIO is probably borderline close to enough for almost no performance loss even with the best duel cards Nvidia has to offer (even if it is $6,000 in graphics, you really don't need more than FX...)
@club4ghz
@club4ghz 5 жыл бұрын
Aida 64 cache and memory benchmark results ?
@kaiserped
@kaiserped 5 жыл бұрын
I overclocked my keyboard by using membrane things.
@jesses.1513
@jesses.1513 5 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it to upgrade to 3200mhz ddr4? I'm running 32 gb of 3000mhz, and I'm curious if it's worth the upgrade. Cpu is R7 2700x and I know they like high memory clocks.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 5 жыл бұрын
No, 200MHz isn't going to make a drastic difference. And chances are you can OC your 3000MHz kit to 3200 without touching voltages or timings.
@jesses.1513
@jesses.1513 5 жыл бұрын
@@CraftComputing Okay! Appreciate the advice.
@Emma-kz3zr
@Emma-kz3zr 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see the results regarding VR performance.
@freddybigs10
@freddybigs10 5 жыл бұрын
Ram speeds do make a difference. Current gen and even last gen graphics cards have DDR5/6 or HBM memory which are far faster than the DDR3/4 ram. Even if our cards do not have a cpu or memory capacity bottleneck they do have a ram speed bottleneck.
@jcrewkidd
@jcrewkidd 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the latency on the 4400 ram, CL14 / 15 /16? What were your timings with the previous ram versus this ram? Details left out that are more important than just the 3200Mhz vs. 4400mhz. Lower Mhz ram can run faster with the timings are better. There are cases where you can get 3200 Mhz Ram with better timings such as C14 than if you had say 3600 mhz ram with c16 timings. Your timings matter more than anything else, at least that is my experience.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 5 жыл бұрын
I mentioned timings repeatedly in the video.
@Hazlotuyoutube
@Hazlotuyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from spain. I have a question 8700 ( no k) 2060 and 16 gb 2666. Monitor aloenware 1080 260hz. Recomend upgrade to 4000???
@thekrautist
@thekrautist 5 жыл бұрын
Och, dangit Jeff. I JUST finished Hitman (2016) last night. Could you not have revealed this revelation a few days earlier? Could've used a bizarre but repeatable and statistically significant performance increase. Also you can literally scare the last target of the game to death just by being Agent 47 and that is hilarious. Not at all STEALTHY, but so worth the game over.
@Lewtorz
@Lewtorz 5 жыл бұрын
Ever tried tuning the CL timings to 14 instead of 16 on the 3200 kit? Since you pushed the 4400 kit as tight as it could get it seems only fair to do this on the 3200 aswell. @craftcomputing
@GTArajgaming
@GTArajgaming 5 жыл бұрын
I'm running some Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB rated for 3000mhz BUT I can't use 3000MHZ on my B450-f Gaming....even though I've seen reviews with that board using RAM at 3000mhz I'm a "newb" when it comes to overclocking so I really don't know what settings to change
@LegendMuscle
@LegendMuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to ask. What Mobo now a days will handle 4400mhz
@ItsZim0
@ItsZim0 5 жыл бұрын
Z370 or Z390. Asus n AsRock are pretty good.
@kmemz
@kmemz 5 жыл бұрын
When discussing the Hitman 2016 results, you forgot to mention the abysmal 0.1% lows. Those lows indicate that stutter is significantly worse on 4000 MHz CL20 than on 3200 CL15. I'd rather play on the 3200 kit; a more consistent playing experience is ideal.
@macangelo25
@macangelo25 5 жыл бұрын
I have a noob question.. I encounter a lot of processor that says ddr4 2400 mhz is that the maximum speed of the ram that you can pair with the processor even though the motherboard is capable of 3200mhz.. And also it has 2 channels does that means you can only used two slots of ram of motherboard??
@Woot-Zee
@Woot-Zee 4 жыл бұрын
CS GO has recording demos...You can record and replay the recorded gameplay on various PC rigs. :)
@PcTechnRepair
@PcTechnRepair 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet video, it looks like graphics card is scared of memory it's leaning away a tad bit
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't have the correct riser. Fractal sells a riser card that screws into the bottom of the case, and I just didn't buy it yet :-D
@PcTechnRepair
@PcTechnRepair 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, awesome knowledge n I'm looking forward to next video
@sasatodorovic9056
@sasatodorovic9056 5 жыл бұрын
8700k 4800mhz and ram 3200 mhz Trident Z - G.Skill Works great and i'm done in next 5 years. Jump from fx 8320 4,7ghz Ram 2133mhz :)
@goranmajnaric556
@goranmajnaric556 3 жыл бұрын
Upgrading my ram from 2133 to 4266mhz, will i get decent upgrade since i have 8700 non K version?
@ThermaL-ty7bw
@ThermaL-ty7bw 5 жыл бұрын
read somewhere that above 2400mhz it doesn't even matter for gaming , it doesn't do anything more when going higher then that , meaning getting higher LOW fps range so i tested it myself , got 2400 mhz and overclocked it to 3000 , my lowest fps went up by 10-20 fps , which is a nice boost , when you think you can OC your cpu and gpu aswel and get about the same from both it's all free extra performance that you ''didn't'' need to pay for , which you obviously DID though ... all in the price , don't worry about that .... the day people get stuff for free is the day hell freezes over , and i don't believe in hell , so that's gonna be along time so yeah , just keep on replacing the speeds , cause it DOES help with LOW fps the weird thing is , that the games feel different , it feels like the ram work load is more spread out to give you a better experience ... maybe it's the timings i set or something , just feels different , i can always tell the smallest changes , even 1 cookie that gets detected as mallware , i can feel it in a game ! or if i didn't clean out the ram before playing any game
@tonyl3333
@tonyl3333 5 жыл бұрын
I think the 4000Mhz ram was done when you had 40 craft beers, seems right double vision. I see double frames too when having that many beers 👀
@OlettaLiano
@OlettaLiano 5 жыл бұрын
I have 16GB of DDR4 G.Skill Trident Z RGB CL16 3200MHz overclocked to CL 17 3466MHz on a B450 MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC. I can push it up to 3600 MHz @ 1.5 Volts, which is finn for a quick benchmark, but I think it's too hot for daily use. 4400MHz would be mental, but there's no way this Ryzen system could do it. When the new Ryzen parts hit the market this summer I think I'll upgrade to a X570 motherboard, or whatever they decide to call it.
@terje2005
@terje2005 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe motherboards have gotten better of the years, but my experience is that a lot of CPUs/Motherboards have stability issues with high speed RAM.
@ZuluJomama
@ZuluJomama 5 жыл бұрын
I have pretty much that same setup, but I'm still on 1080p, 240hz though. I must be the weird one than. Would have liked to have seen the difference in 1080p.
@StephenYT.
@StephenYT. 5 жыл бұрын
maximize ram speed is always the better choice, I'm happy with my old i7 2700k on z68 extreme4 and the supported max speed of 2133 for rams, in the years I have upgraded from 1333 4x4gb to 2133 2x8gb
@jouniosmala9921
@jouniosmala9921 5 жыл бұрын
Hitman results can be interpreted quite reasonably. Firstly the title is clearly memory bandwidth limited by DMA transfers to GPU and CPU algorithms . Secondly the title probably does lot of AI and physics etc... calculations independent of graphics. Lets say that AI and physics would use about 2Ghz worth of memory bandwidth when there is enough available. At that point the amount available for graphics would be 1.2Ghz and 2Ghz. I have had 4FPS on another game on my first gen i7 simply because the non graphics portion of the game took all the CPU power I had, and there wasn't anything left for the graphics.
@gearz2570
@gearz2570 5 жыл бұрын
this would be good news for amd vega apus
@lm_dccxl4078
@lm_dccxl4078 5 жыл бұрын
that will be awesome, apus tend to use half the memory bandwith
@MercedesMan
@MercedesMan 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think my 4000mhz ram i ordered will work on my cheap asrock fatl1ty b450 mobo??? thanks for any reply's
@reptilez13
@reptilez13 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious how much difference it makes on ryzen considering how much they like high speed memory. People get like 7fps more in a lot of games going from 3ghz to 3.2 ghz memory.
@ericdeltoro8484
@ericdeltoro8484 5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a 3600Mhz kit to pair with my 2700X, maaaaaybe something a little faster since its somewhat safe to assume that the memory controller on zen 2 chips will be a bit better. Dramatically better, probably not, but better enough to take advantage of faster memory.
@danaries
@danaries 4 жыл бұрын
That ram is more than likely meant for ITX boreds (they have an advantage because the distance is smaller).
@danaries
@danaries 4 жыл бұрын
boards..
@anyau
@anyau 4 жыл бұрын
i just got some of this, hoping it pairs well with zen 3
@jackie7788
@jackie7788 5 жыл бұрын
1 - 2 % performance increase for 400% cost increase? sounds fair.
@llothar68
@llothar68 5 жыл бұрын
Worth the upgrade? Surely if you are on 800MHz DDR2
@giovannip.1433
@giovannip.1433 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid- will stick to my Gskill Flare X cl14 RAM.. Prices have come down- but barely for the high end stuff in New Zealand...
@jowarnis
@jowarnis 5 жыл бұрын
For 9900k should i go with 4400mhz cl 19 or 3600mhz cl15, help me to decide.
@nixwissen6564
@nixwissen6564 4 жыл бұрын
since i have this Kit i have no more heavy Dropdowns in Kingdome Come in the City where is heavy CPU (and it seems RAM intense) too. I upgraded vom 3000 CL16 and there were many stutters.
@michaelcorleone2794
@michaelcorleone2794 5 жыл бұрын
190 dollars you kidding ? Or am i blind ? I just checked your link
@michaelcorleone2794
@michaelcorleone2794 5 жыл бұрын
4113 mhz and 4000 ones
@RojasTKD7
@RojasTKD7 5 жыл бұрын
Patriot doesn't inspire confidence in me. I recently bought their Viper 3733 kit, but it would not run at anything over 3400 at stock voltage. With increased village it would run at 3600, but want very stable and I had many issues. Other had similar issues with that kit. I'm scared to try their stuff.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 5 жыл бұрын
Ram overclock rarely run at stock voltage.
@RojasTKD7
@RojasTKD7 5 жыл бұрын
@Craft Computing 3700 was the stock XMP and it would not even boot at all. 3400 was the best it would do at stock voltage, even then I got memory errors. 3600 would boot with extra voltage, but again memory errors. I'm running a premium Z390 board in a premium system. It seems Patriot had issues running at advertised speed on their "fast" DDR4 kits in general. It's a common theme. I'm sticking with G.Skill, I think.
@nicolasdenis6233
@nicolasdenis6233 5 жыл бұрын
That GPU sag is killing me lol
@BlikkenslagerOlsen
@BlikkenslagerOlsen 5 жыл бұрын
Nice beer!
@homegrowntwinkie
@homegrowntwinkie 5 жыл бұрын
The real question is.....What Game Pairs with what Beers? Lol. Also, How do you feel about the Ram Speed with 2nd Generation Ryzen Chips?
@startedtech
@startedtech 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how fast it could run on an X470/2600X?
@pixxel3929
@pixxel3929 5 жыл бұрын
Patriot 16GB 4133MHz Viper Steel CL19 (2x8GB) Mega pamiątki super wydajne u mnie śmigają na 3600MHz 14-15-15-35 tRFC na 420 przy napięciu 1.45 volta na płycie asus z170 deluxe Śmiga stabilnie na 3733 14-15-15-35 tRFC na 550 napięcie 1.50 volta
@Pillokun
@Pillokun 5 жыл бұрын
Even though we see a bit of a gain, you should be using 1080p for this test as gtx1080 is not that of a monster of a gpu anymore. if you used a 2080ti or even an 2080/1080ti then I would almost use 1044p for a ram test like that. And the other thing, why did you not use a proper mini-itx mobo with proper expenisve ram. I have built a couple of intel mini itx sys for CS:GO players with ram raging from 4400-4600 and even one 4800 kit and they all did their rated xmp profiles. You need proper hardware but those frequencies are not that hard to get once you threw cash at the problem.
@amnottabs
@amnottabs 5 жыл бұрын
can't see the affiliate links for that second beverage
@loadingpleasewait2225
@loadingpleasewait2225 5 жыл бұрын
I'm running my 4000mhz t force nighthawk ddr4 ram at 1.35 and timing 17-18-18-38.
@420f37
@420f37 5 жыл бұрын
Advanced memory ft. drinking during the day?
@mr.wonderful1455
@mr.wonderful1455 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is that GPU slightly tilted?
@a.rsinghkaushik8731
@a.rsinghkaushik8731 5 жыл бұрын
Now that I see it , I can't unseen it . Damn , it's actually tilted XD
@user-dm7bw9os7w
@user-dm7bw9os7w 5 жыл бұрын
@@a.rsinghkaushik8731 it looks like the waterblock is causing the gpu to sag
@Dr.Faustus94
@Dr.Faustus94 2 жыл бұрын
Now its $149 cad just got it myself
@TheRealZark_
@TheRealZark_ 4 жыл бұрын
Will it work good with a Ryzen 5 2600
@PaulSebastianM
@PaulSebastianM 5 жыл бұрын
Any good overclocker would know that CAS latency and clock rate are interlinked. Their result is memory access latency which is a better linear measure of DDR performance. 4400MHz at CAS19 = 8.6ns. 4000MHz at CAS20 = 10ns. 3200MHz at CL14 = 8.75ns. So yeah, get 3200Mhz. Don't get suckered.
@gertjanvandermeij4265
@gertjanvandermeij4265 5 жыл бұрын
YOU should use this on a AMD RYZEN CPU ! i would love to see the difference ( on a Ryzen system ) between 3000Mhz and 4400Mhz !
@r3pents7
@r3pents7 5 жыл бұрын
i have 2 gskill 4400mhz kits running 4000mhz cl16 in quad channel on my x299 system. high frequency memory is always recommended for 240fps +, in new esports titles. usually at 1080p or below. Like me for apex i run at 720p which is a killer to run 240hz with no pre-rendered frames but the memory speed really helps. in the pro overwatch scene most of the players are now getting there rigs kitted with 4000mhz+ they also run there games all low 1080p.. this is the only place i see 4000mhz+ memory useful atm. also for benching ofc
@tubularmonkeymaniac
@tubularmonkeymaniac 5 жыл бұрын
How do you see enemies at distance? Guessing you play close range only?
@r3pents7
@r3pents7 5 жыл бұрын
@@tubularmonkeymaniac this can be a semi issue. usually you can see a pixel blob. some of players use 768p 16:10. but tbh when guns like Wingman and Peacekeapers exist you just tp/zip in and go for closer range. always use the ping system. always spam skull town... best fights. amazing in 240hz goodness
@TunaDad
@TunaDad 3 жыл бұрын
going to see how this runs on an I3-10100 with B560 chipset. 4-5 extra frames baby!
@thegirthquake8574
@thegirthquake8574 5 жыл бұрын
When you upgrade from a 1070ti to a 1080, you're really just doing a side grade.
@attackLive
@attackLive 5 жыл бұрын
I run 3200mhz 14141434 on 2x16gb together with 2700x @4.2ghz(waiting for zen 2) and 1080ti and hoping high end navi will replace it.
@BuildaMan
@BuildaMan 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, but the graphs were a little hard to read
@comradeyuri2972
@comradeyuri2972 5 жыл бұрын
This would make a difference in AMD possibly?
@r3drumg33k3
@r3drumg33k3 4 жыл бұрын
I run a b die Team Group 4000mhz kit @ 4133 cl 15 ultra tight subs on a z390 Dark/9900kf with a 5ghz IMC for 1440p 144hz gamming.....The thing is with ram kits like this is that anything over 4ghz is an utter crap shoot, your IMC might not be able to do it....you motherboard might not be able to handle it.....im guessing that is why he isn't running XMP on that ram and instead running 4ghz. Most ram like that is only certified to run on like 1-3 motherboards and a "binned" cpu aka a good to great IMC . Most times save your money and buy a 3600-4000 kit with good timings and overclock it.
@svviftey
@svviftey 5 жыл бұрын
Hah. This is really cool. Im actually running the viper patriot rgb kit 2x8gb 3200mhz cas 16 with a ryzen 7 1800x and 1080ti. Still on a asrock bm350 pro4 mb because waiting paitently for ryzen 3xxx and x570 boards. But i said fuggit who cares if we dont have lloc or nice vrms lets overclock a 8c/16t cpu on a 80 dollar mb anyways lmfao. . Got 3.9 stable at 1.30v before vdroop on the stock amd wraith spire cooler left over from my original 1500x. The 1080ti is a evga sc2 that refuses to hold 2000+ mhz core clock and settles in at 1974mhz instead with the typical 1080ti plus 500mhz mem clock oc. I did for shits n giggles try faster than 3200 on the ram and my viper rgb kit did let me just touch frequency and nothing else. 3333mhz no problem. 3466mhz seemed okay but after 3 hours in AC oddesy i crashed so i put it back to the xmp 3200mhz profile. I need to do more reading up on ram Oc'ing before i feel confident leaving it oc'd.
@ragalthor
@ragalthor 5 жыл бұрын
I am using a Ryzen 7 1700 with 16gb (2*8) at 2400 MHz and RX 480and it has a terrible performance with Minecraft. Can someone help me to improve?
@NathanBinks
@NathanBinks 5 жыл бұрын
Something with Java or the game itself, I don't get good fps with a 2700, GTX 1070 Ti and 2933 16GB RAM.
@filipbackable
@filipbackable 5 жыл бұрын
Shit ram
@meteormedia7021
@meteormedia7021 5 жыл бұрын
I hoped you might be testing with Ryzen...
@KS-gf3tv
@KS-gf3tv 5 жыл бұрын
This should be tested on Ryzen, since it benefits WAY more than Intel from higher memory speeds.
@flycosis
@flycosis 2 жыл бұрын
no one with a good pc plays at ultra...I go out of my way to disable as much as possible
@sjoerd104
@sjoerd104 5 жыл бұрын
Someone noticed that frame drop in the video?
@acetown2263
@acetown2263 5 жыл бұрын
My motherboard can't even utilize my 3000mhz ram fully xD
@DenzNoble
@DenzNoble 5 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting if you test it on Ryzen later :)
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