Craps Players - Stop it!

Craps Players - Stop it In this video we discuss a play that craps players do, but should stop. When playing the dark side in craps sometimes call "no action" or remove there bets once a point is established they do not like. While the casino allows the removal of a don't bet, you should never do this. I explain why this is a bad idea, and I give an alternate solution that is much better.
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[@josephchunjr.7885]

I think I’m gonna get yelled at playing like this 😂

[@shawnwasacase9298]

When ever placing bets on dont pass or dont come, always make them multiplies of six (6, 12, 18, etc. ...). Then placing the appropriate place bets will create a win-push situation on the 6 or 8, and win-win situations on the 5-9 and the 4-10.

[@ColorUp]

Thank you

[@lagunafly1555]

just don't lose more $ on the 6 & 8 quickies than your total don't bets. I see people do this often and I want to choke them out. i.e. press, press... then waaa waaa waaaaaa.

[@3fifteen11]

Sorry - craps beginner - is the appropriate bet to make equivalent place bets? Meaning if I bet $18 on the dont pass and the point goes to 5, put $18 on the place 5 bet?

[@jimklemens5018]

@@3fifteen11 You could make a $15 Place bet on the 5. If the 5 rolls, you would win $21.

[@ChunandRice]

I had been removing Don't Pass occasionally but now that you mention it this makes so much sense to just bet on the number to hedge it. Wild how these little things eek by when you're starting out

[@ColorUp]

So many aspects to this game, thats why I love it!

[@runtoeat]

Well explained. If I have a15, 20, or 25 DP or DC and a 6 or 8 comes, I will place one unit lower, 6,12,or 24 and put a dollar on the Hard Way. You still have the advantage and the chance to use it for a small win or loss.

[@lvki3]

Thanks for sharing. I think this perfect for playing conservatively. You stay in the game long enough to catch a hot roll, n as u stated u can at least break even n not leave the tables broke. 👌🏽👍🏽

[@StuartP]

7/11 on a DP/DC will eventually break you.

[@ColorUp]

I wouldn't advise this as a strategy, just a warning....don't remove your don't numbers

[@scottyjay692]

you lose money faster this way tho. better to let the don't bet stay in action and not place anything

[@fredg9647]

Very informative and well put together video sir... I would just like to add that as a long time casino employee I know that a lot of casinos nowadays won’t allow this action due to the lack of % of favor for the house... I’ve worked at some that would either make you take/lay odds on your don’t/pass line bets or would automatically take down the opposing bet of the one you preferred... also this type of play would easily upset your dealers unless you were making corresponding bets for them while you played this way... just wanted to add my 2¢... again great and informative video and I look forward to watching some of your others... 👍👋

[@vincet8431]

why would it upset the dealers?

[@88unstopable]

​@pannoni4875 But it's not the dealers money. I can't comprehend why any dealer would be upset with someone hedging their bets.

[@nonstopclassics4982]

Cool strategy. Basically you’re breaking out even until a long shooter comes out to increase profit on numbers. At least that’s what I got from it. Thanks. I don’t play much craps anymore but I remember same shooters in action for like 30 minutes. Those are the sessions I think this will come in handy.

[@woodrowjr.7166]

The trick is knowing when that is going to happen BEFORE it happens. Who has the ability?

[@woodrowjr.7166]

So, by making a place bet on the point, you've effectively removed the only reason to play the don't pass line, which is to gain the advantage if you survive the part of the game when the casino has the advantage. Brilliant.

[@dannypresson4815]

I like this. Low risk, slow wins but still engaging. Beats drumming your fingers by just playing the pass or don't pass. Just throw in a field bet Stern style for kicks. Or not. You can enjoy the game w less chance of it getting away from you.

[@Alan-yd5pc]

Watch the table for a don't bettor that takes down his 6/8 and offer to buy them from him. That's a way to avoid the come out roll and have the odds(as slight as they may be) in your favor.

[@BubbleCrapsChallenge]

Great minimal risk strategy! Just my style lol!!!

[@tyronepowers76]

Would this get you rated better at the casino playing this way? You are turning more money thru the table with those place bets therefore increasing your ADT with those higher house edge place bets (especially that 5 and 9). Curious if any of my friends on here with a better understanding of comps and ratings could comment. Color up, another Great video and good low roller, scared player strat.

[@mvondrak]

Tyrone Powers it would not get a better rate. This strategy does keep you on the table longer so that will improve your rate. Seeing as these bets are off setting it basically negates them. It would be like betting $1000 banker and $1000 player in Bacc. Dealer tips, being a cool dude will help improve your rate as well. Jsyk

[@ColorUp]

Any smart manager would only rate you for the don't pass/come action as the hedge stuff is offsetting, but who knows, table game ratings are terribly inconsistent on how they rate for comps.

[@Sweetchilliheat18]

I agree with the inconsistency part, I believe they only go by your pass line bet that they see when you activate your card and it runs off of a rolls per minute average pre set by the algorithm. I think if you put it in and make your first few pass line bets of $100 the system will calculate your entre time there at $100/ whatever time interval

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

@@Sweetchilliheat18 - They spot people who try that - black chips to start - pit turns back, reds come out - . These people weren't born yesterday.

[@breakingcraps]

Here's a tip. Some of you might be thinking well I just want to switch sides and go with the shooter so why keep my DC bet. Even if you wanted to switch sides and bet the Six and Eight and go with the shooter for whatever reason... it is still better to keep the DC bet. All you do is just double the bet of what you would have placed it for had you took the DC bet down. For example, say you had a DC bet of $5 on the Eight and you are SURE the shooter is going to hit it and you want to place bet it. Instead of placing it for $6 and bringing the DC bet down, place it for $12 and keep your DC bet up. Looks weird right? Well do the math. Instead of risking $6 to win $7 you are risking $7 to win $9. Slightly better. And you can always reduce the Place bet or whatever you want to do if the DC bet loses. It gets even better at the higher bets. Say you have a $30 DC bet on the Six and you want to Place Bet if for $30 and bring the DC down. Again, just double what you would have bet and make a Place Bet of $60 and keep the DC up. Now you are risking the same $30 you would have risked but now you win $40 instead of $35. Again just do the quick math. So, it is ALWAYS better to keep the DC up even if you want to switch sides.

[@ahbalone]

So in the end you risked the 30 on the DONT comeout only to lose 30. As you know, that is the most likely outcome. If you want follow your gut, then do it! Take the 30 off the DONT and place 60 and to win 70. Hard to actually win in craps if you don't attack when you have the advantage position you earned via risk.

[@breakingcraps]

@@ahbalone That's still flawed thinking. If you have a $30 Don't already and want to switch sides it still makes no sense to remove the Don't bet. If you want to place $60 to win $70 do this instead... Keep the $30 Dont and place $90. Still only risking $60 but if you hit the place bet you win $105 minus the $30 Don't for a total win of $75 not $70 and risking the same $60. So again... Never remove the Don't it's just giving the casino free money.

[@ahbalone]

@@breakingcrapsAgain, you bet 30 DONT and got nervous with 6 or 8 so you hedge against a DONT bet you now have an earned advantage on. The most like result of your 90 place bet? You lost $60 this time. I'm saying "shit or get off the pot" - don't dilute your position. Hedging against your own advantage on a hunch is never a good winning play. But if you think you know what's coming, do a 100% switch to the DO side and you might get lucky and win. The smarter play is to add full ODDS on the DONT bet and play the low house adv. One foot in two boats will eventually sink you.

[@highwayghost900]

Haha "ass line" 😂

[@StuartP]

This video was the best I've seen as far as general playing strategy. The rolls were perfect and the tutorial was very helpful.

[@ColorUp]

Thanks for watching and your comment

[@StuartP]

@@ColorUp I've been a lurker but I just subbed. The explanation of No Action and when to leave your places On/Off, inside/outside win positions, etc. really sunk in watching this video.

[@ColorUp]

Glad you subbed, thanks.

[@rogervo1965]

great vid man. i'm a novice and still learning the game (was playing a lot b4 this damn covid19). I'm a dark side player and always took down the 6 & 8 DC. Will definitely employ this strategy nex time out.

[@thedude5599]

if you are not shooting wait for the point to be 5 6 or 8. Then place 30 on each of those numbers and 15 dollars on the field. Every roll is a winner except a seven. try and take three or 4 rolls then take your bets down and go the the dont come. Once your bets are down and you are on the dont come you are favored. Always LAY THE ODDS at max. Playing both sides on the same roll is quite effective.

[@noahpalmieri941]

You may not lose much money when constantly just hedging but you lose something far more valuable - your time! May as well take a risk to win some money otherwise this is just a big waste of time. Hard to argue that it's entertainment value either because you're always worrying about the worst possible outcome and hedging- not to mention everyone will look at you sideways

[@JasonEmerson711]

A few 7s and 11s in the come out can decimate your roll if you choose to go this route. Get through that first roll 9 out of 10 times and u basically guaranteed a win.

[@ColorUp]

This is not a suggest way to play, but a warning for those that pull there don't bets down AFTER a point is set. Stop doing that people :)

[@JasonEmerson711]

My bad, Color Up. You are 1000 percent correct, by the way. I dealt craps for about 2 years and I must say 95% of DC players do not travel to the 6 and 8.

[@ColorUp]

Jason Emerson really? That many wouldn’t travel to 6/8? Wow They got some bad teaching. If you are afraid of number, just hedge it, but my goodness, you already beat the casino at that point.

[@Slick5923]

If you already have the advantage after the come out roll when betting the "don't pass", why would you then bet "against" it and limit your now winning advantage? At that point, why not just let it ride "with an advantage"?

[@ColorUp]

Thats the point of video, you shouldn't! But people do it all the time and take their bets down. The video says don't take down, at least place bet so in no lose situation. I recommend just let it ride.

[@drewdown826]

@@ColorUp i move my dont pass to pass line if the point becomes 6 or 8. I loike playing those numbers with odds

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

@@drewdown826 - What color is the Limo they send to pick you up?

[@drewdown826]

@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 green?

[@holzerg01]

That's why I play my Don't Come for 25. The 4/10 plays for $20, pays $36...gain of $5 or $16. The 5/9 plays for $20, pays $28...gain of $5 or $3. The 6/8 plays for $24, pays $28...gain of $1 or $3. You need a bigger bank roll, but it is easier to overcome the loss of yo or red on the come-out roll.

[@torlumnitor8230]

Why not play at $30on the 4/10 buy for $25($26 if pre-buy) on a 7 you win $4-5, on the point you win $19. With the 5/9 $25 pays $35 so you win $5 either way and on the 6/8 $30 pays 35 so its a push on 7 or $5 on the point.

[@mhicks31]

I've pulled down don't bets before when a shooter is getting hot. This is a WAY better system. thanks.

[@misterchubbikins]

Dude, you just turned craps into a better break even game than pai gow

[@chadaitken5476]

Good video. This is a good strategy for most players who don’t have enough at the table to take the swings. The catch 22 with the hedge game is that beginners usually don’t do it bc they are just learning the long way first.

[@ColorUp]

Not sure I would call this a strategy

[@jenniemoi1020]

Thank you for your tutorial! Your explanations are concise! Much appreciated!!!

[@ColorUp]

Thanks!

[@YosoyChan]

Hi Color Up, Thanks for the videos. I love your explaining and the camera view. Can you make a video on this strategy only so we get a better understanding and also if you can make some videos on Vince’s hedging strategy please...

[@ColorUp]

I will continue to make as many vids as i can, thanks for watching

[@ossamaaasar8567]

I always play the roullet but after these nice videos I'm gonna try this nice game

[@StephenHudakJr]

Awesome video, had not thought of this before. Always something new to learn about craps.

[@chrisp5002]

Wow never thought of it like that!!! I see some don't players wave off the dealer if the point of 6 or 8 is established and then rebet the don't pass. Going through the 'hard part' again. Great video!! Also a good way to show action while heding your bets.

[@ColorUp]

Yep, bad idea to wave it off on any number

[@profnabeshin]

I find that the biggest case of players giving up house edge is making come bets with no odds. When the casino ups the table minimum to $15, I often see players make come bets with no odds or only 1x odds rather than making place bets. This means a lower payout for the same amount of money risked. If you don't have the bankroll to take full odds... place bets are always better than come bets.

[@ColorUp]

4-5x odds is required to get paid more than equivalent amount made in place bet

[@powell4661]

I bet heavier odds on the 6 and 8 than the other points

[@Dmartinez9959]

Like it's been said before... "any strategy works, but only under certain circumstances". Hard to play this way when there are back-to-back-to-back 7's or 7/11 then the point is made.

[@carpetcowboy58]

If my Don't Pass gets knocked down back-to-back, I stop betting on that hand and wait for the next shooter. I don't want to get run over by a monster. "Now, where's that waitress?"

[@ColorUp]

This is not a strategy, just a warning for those that call off their don'ts when they travel to numbers they don't like

[@Dcarlin2012]

I play this way a lot! Especially if I’m at a new table. It’s a great way to ease into a game.

[@christakamatsu9304]

Thank you! Never thought of this.

[@sadlk2009]

I understand the point you make with a $25 Don’t Pass bet, but a $5 or $10 bet you may as well pull the bet down if the outcome is a guaranteed break even.

[@ColorUp]

I’m that case I would just leave up, player has the advantage, no reason to hedge, and certainly no reason to pull down.

[@jerryp6672]

Awesome video. After putting a bet on the DC. Now I understand why the dealer would ask me if I wanted to pull my bet back after the dice was thrown especially if it was a 6 or 8.

[@ColorUp]

Dealers ask because its very common for players to do that, but its a bad idea

[@jimbob2810]

Here's another bad bet I see at the craps table. People with a Pass line bet who make a Place bet on their point. You get better odds by betting behind the Pass Line than you do when you make a Place bet. It is irrational for a Pass Line bettor to make a Place bet on the point.

[@creolecajun9988]

Color up try this.... 1) Buy in for $300 2) Bet $50 No Pass 3) Once point is establish place a $10 bet on every point except for established point. 3) Place $12 on points 6 or 8 4) Example if point is 6 you will place $10 on 4,5,9,&10 & $12 on 8 5) Take hits on your points then take all points down leave don't pass up. Never press up points 6) Very important to dodge hot 7 shooters on come out if you lose twice by a shooter you wait for next shooter example...shooter rolls 7 on. Come out you bet $25 don't come again..Shooter hits his point ..then you will stay off this hot shooter..

[@ColorUp]

you can submit strategies with my "dice advice" form on my website colorup.club

[@darrenhanes606]

I used to do both don't pass and pass when I was throwing. If my 3 v set hit 6 or 8 I would them move the don't pass to pass odds. Worked great at horseshoe in bossier. I've left horseshoe with 11k off 600 buy in.

[@BDiLL22]

More Darkside Strategies pls!

[@ColorUp]

Will do :)

[@TomKaren94]

If you regularly hedge your don't the pit boss will let you know youre wasting their time.

[@ColorUp]

It’s not advised or suggested, just better option than removing a dont bet that has moved to a point.

[@jimklemens5018]

If you are the shooter, you can remove your Don't Pass bet. You just have to make a Put bet after the come out roll.

[@MichaelJamesActually]

Why break even when you can put don't pass odds down once poitis established? Plus, if don't pass is not contractual, then you should be able to remove it and keep playing don't pass odds.

[@breakingcraps]

You can't remove your flat bet and still get the don't pass odds... if that is what you meant.

[@ColorUp]

The point of video was some people do not like certain don't numbers (6/8 usually) and remove them. They certainly wouldn't add odds to them. This is not a suggestion to play this way, its just a warning "do not remove your don't bet after established or call no action" Also you cannot play the don't pass odds without the underlaying flat bet.

[@jeffcullercomedy3109]

Notice that the 12 only pays double on the Field? This is becoming more commonplace here in Vegas--sweeping through faster than 6:5 BJ

[@ColorUp]

yeah, rare to find triple anymore

[@birddog301em]

I was in Vegas this last week. I saw a guy that played strictly the dark side. But, when the point was a 6 or 8 he would wave off the dealer and not allow his don’t to be moved to either of those numbers. I didn’t know that was possible but I saw it happen quite a few times. He only allowed the dealer to move his don’t to 4,5,9 or 10.

[@ColorUp]

Yep, not smart

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

You should have asked to buy the bet from him, then, if you're nervous about it, place it for a near amount and make enough to buy a couple winning PowerBall tickets.

[@SimakSantana]

good strats i feel like darth vader

[@maxxbett7313]

You can pick up your don't pass while shooting the dice just pass to the next shooter and you can also move it to the pass line and then take odds.

[@michdax7627]

if the person can't take the heat, they shouldn't be at the table. the cover bet limits the possible profit and increases loss

[@ColorUp]

Maybe, but people have different goals. Nothing wrong with spinning wheels to enjoy time at table.

[@leeturner4513]

This is basically the strategy I asked about the other day. Thanks for the video!!!

[@ColorUp]

ok, cool

[@DJBIGSEXY234]

Just a house keeping detail. You mentioned that if you're the shooter with a Don't Pass bet that you can't take your Don't Pass Bet down because you won't have any action in the game. On it's face, that statement is true. However, casinos will allow you to take your Don't Pass down and place the point for the table minimum or the amount equal to your Don't Pass bet and allow you to continue shooting. Reason being the casino is now at the advantage and if we happen to lose, we're losing for place bet odds, not, true odds.

[@ColorUp]

Correct, you could take down if you replace with other table action.

[@TripDadLife]

I feel like this is like betting on reds and blacks in roulette.

[@Saxysaboy77]

Question: Are you sure the casinos would let me make a Place Bet on a Point?

[@ColorUp]

Yes, if there is an exception let me know. Bubble machines, is a different story, and most I’ve seen will not allow placing against a don’t point.

[@kurtpiper9007]

Just be sure to know your table rules. Some tables will not let you make place bets to hedge the Don't Pass, unless there is more than the minimum table bet as the spread.

[@ColorUp]

Interesting? I have never heard of that. At what casino have you ran into that issue?

[@breakingcraps]

I personally have never seen this either. But I am sure there is that one casino that will have a weird rule.

[@kurtpiper9007]

Color Up...most of the casinos in Wendover, NV. I have tried this in the past and was informed of the table rule. I have tried on multiple attempts, thinking perhaps it was a dealer issue, but they have been fairly consistent.

[@ColorUp]

Wendover, hmmm ok, thanks. That’s a pretty dirty rule for them to have. They had their shot to win on come out roll.

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

This isn't exactly what you're talking about, but years ago, the Turning Stone lost me as a customer after sending me Match Play coupons in the mail and then not allowing me to bet both sides (Pass and Don't Pass) at the same time with them. I tore them up, tossed my ratings card in the trash and walked out and have never returned. That was about 10 years ago.

[@thedude5599]

here is my system a modified iron cross. I only play when the point is 5 6 or 8 and I do not make a pass bet. I place 30 on the 5 6 and 8 and 15 on the field. I try to squeeze three or four rolls then take my bets down hopefully dodging a seven. Then I play the dont come.Once im on the dont come im a favorite over the house.

[@rpapibear13]

funny i learned how to play craps only using the come bar. always learning new way to play this game. thanks

[@CSarraga]

seems like the would be a decent bubble craps strategy if u wanna grind it out

[@sacmasteryadmin7449]

You can overcome that powerful 7 on the come out roll by playing and equal amount on the Pass line AND the Don't pass line.

[@ColorUp]

Doey dont, allowed most places, just have to beware the 12

[@golfshirtshooter633]

How many times can someone in a casino say “I have the advantage over the house”. Craps players who pull down a “Don’t” that is on 6 or 8 are pure amateurs and posers. Leave the bet up. YOU have the advantage and you already went through the “Scary roll” (ie Come Out) to get there.

[@jakeberg6758]

“GREAT video, thanks!!!! Awesome low risk strategy, and way to build comps.

[@chrisblakeley825]

not really, your average bet will be one cheque. If you're playing $10 bets as in the video your average bet in the rating system will be $10 even with $60 on the layout. once you have the hedges in you aren't "at risk" no loss no average bet.

[@mikemaddux8292]

This a great video and strategy if your goal is to play for a very long time but still lose all of your money eventually...smh

[@ColorUp]

this is not a strategy… just a warning, do not remove dont bets

[@conradsvoboda8507]

after surviving the first roll in don't pass...say $10....then especially if the point becomes 4 or 10 why couldn't you lay max odds on the don't pass for a pretty safe bet? also if playing don't pass on the come out roll, cover any 7 with $1 to give you some protection

[@ColorUp]

Certainly laying odds against number is s great bet as the player is now advantage to win. This video is for players who are afraid to leave their advantages bet working.

[@cyrusduduaco728]

Hedging the don’ts. Awesome

[@BSinNH]

You will get the evil eye from everyone on the table if you play like this.

[@MrBmxbrawler]

Or beat up

[@tadnole79]

What does it matter! When I'm at the casino, i play my money and you play your money!

[@cassidy99ful]

BS. Why. I'm hoping for the point to come. I don't want to just break even. I want the shooter to make his point so I can actually make some money too.

[@Saxysaboy77]

When I play the Dark Side I always stay quiet and make no reactions when I win. Most of the time he people are okay with me. Some even thank me for not gloating like others.

[@ryanbahnsen6429]

@@Saxysaboy77 I shoot from don't, but I still would like to hit a few numbers to keep table morale up before I 7 out 😆

[@jamesecarson5631]

I mistakenly thought this was about making a mistake. It is rather about a player making a move that is not advantageous for him/her. If someone wants to play poorly to their own disadvantage that is fine with me. That way the casino makes more money and is able to afford better comps to craps players. Stupid is as stupid does.

[@MightySquirrel724]

I am loving all of your videos. I really want to try out craps now. Thank you!

[@ColorUp]

It’s a fun game

[@pangaea6united]

this is good strategy because when your waiting for the dice as a shooter

[@kiethmergard]

There is a way to hedge your come out if you are a don't pass player. On the come out only, you could place an equivalent bet on the any seven or eleven right? Is there something I am missing?

[@farenheight999]

Kieth Mergard if another number then 7-11 come out, you lose you're bet. So it's not an edge .... instead you could add 1 dollar on the 11 roll and get 15$ if it's roll and lose 1$ if not ...

[@haynerbass]

I HATE it when they say there are 6 ways to make a 7! There just aren't. Okay, MAYBE if there was any difference between a 1/6 and a 6/1. When it comes to craps the ONLY thing that matters is the total. NOT the position of the dice.

[@ColorUp]

There are 6 ways...it’s easier to understand if one die is blue and the other red - 1red/6blue and 6red/1blue are different dice combinations. The game and math are based off this fact. There are only 11 different outcomes or totals, but 36 different combinations to achieve those 11 totals.

[@sarahbrewer5610]

hi i want to ask a question. have you seen a casino stick man call no roll when the dice accidentally hits a players hands but calls nothing if the dice hits a dealers hands that intentionally puts there hands in the way?

[@ColorUp]

I have seen it called both ways, i wouldn't read too much into it. Dealers want you to win (tips) they aren't trying to call you a seven out, it just seems that way when it goes that way.

[@maxxbett4757]

Dealer is considered part of the table!

[@pgingere]

Check out John Patrick's books, and videos if you can find them. He advocated a method very similar to this as one way of playing.

[@ColorUp]

I have a couple of his books, good info

[@fasbe9]

You do not have to let the don’t come bet travel if you do not want it to. Example: points 6 and 8.

[@ColorUp]

You do not, but that is the same problem, you are asking to go thru the very risky don't come again, its better to let it travel and just place hedge if you don't like the number

[@sarry419]

Last time i attempted to do a place bet on my dark points; the dealer had to get an OK by the pitboss (no boxman was sitting) to allow my place bet on my dark points.

[@ColorUp]

Haha, every dealer is new to the game at some point, gotta cut them slack sometimes :)

[@h2t26]

I've tried this and long run bad idea. U started out correctly that the first come out roll is the toughest part of the donts. So why have a push to break even when u have an advantage? U don't to have advantage and when u get it u hedge bet?

[@ColorUp]

This is not a strategy. I’m telling people do not pull down their dont bets when they have advantage.

[@o.d.gambino3633]

I see you take the time to reply, thank you! I would say for this video you should have shown the results for someone who did not hedge at all.

[@ColorUp]

I do my best to reply, thanks for your thoughts

[@Trendingupwards]

When I watched this at 1.25 speed, I think he sounds just like Tony Romo. The #1 thing I learned from this video is there is a lot I need to learn about craps.

[@ColorUp]

I also have a lot to learn. lot of complexity hidden in a simple game you just bet on numbers you think will roll

[@edarmstrong5955]

I guess this was a strategy of sorts but I assumed Color Up was just demonstrating a way to deal with the fear of facing a 6 or 8 against your Don't Pass bet. I run into this situation playing several different strategies.

[@ColorUp]

You are correct, not a strategy. If it was it is a poor one risking too much to win back too little.

[@frankmurray222]

The "Jack" in Cleveland Ohio actually wouldn't let me do this. They said I had to have risk in the game at all times even tho I was at a disadvantage at the come out roll. I argued but ultimately lost that argument. Probably had something to do with the "JACK" being the only casino in Cleveland and then not having any competition in town so they make their own rules. I was pretty annoyed about it to say the least. Another craps dealer told me I could call the gaming officers and complain but it wasn't that serious to me. I wonder if I did if it would make a difference. They probably would just bar me completely

[@ColorUp]

That’s unfortunate. I don’t think the gaming commission would do anything. While a stupid house rule, they can make that rule. Craps rules are not universal and can vary

[@frankmurray222]

@@ColorUp yeah they let me do it but only if I had another bet out there so I place bet the 8. And the dealer was extra rude about it. I think if we got another casino in town then things would change but as it stands we're stuck with these over Lord's 😂

[@blazensrh]

Laugh when I see people call no action on the dark side! No reason to after you made it past the "sheriff" (7) or his "deputy" (11)

[@blazensrh]

@555 do you just flat bet the dont or lay odds depending on the point?

[@rogerl8488]

@555 how much will u win on this bet?

[@rogerl8488]

@555 I am with you at the end of the day the casino will win more than you at the end of the night because the 7 is throwed by 2 or 3 point number is made. Usually it thrown on the first point...

[@lagunafly1555]

@555 keep it simple. I have an advanced play thereafter, but yeah! for the basic KISS I profit more with Darth than Luke...

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

@555 - lol - you edited it and STILL managed to fuck it up. Wrong on all three counts. A new record.

[@nthnppps]

8 ways to pass line win , And 24 ways to set the point ..

[@ColorUp]

and 4 ways to lose

[@Hexsyn]

Aren't you still statistically better off in the long run just not making the place bet though because it has better house odds than just staying with the don't pass? Might be more "swingy" but still better over time, right?

[@ColorUp]

Correct. Just sticking with don’t bet is best option. This video is for people that really want to remove the dont. Don’t do it folks! Just place it instead.

[@victorduncan3254]

I take the opposite view. When I bet don't come, I always hop the seven AND bet the horn. I also will REMOVE my don't come bet if it lands on a 4 or 10. The 1 for 2 odds payment are just not adequately reimbursing for my risk. In most cases, I will hit two horn numbers back to back before I hit two don't come numbers in a row. The key is betting heavy UP FRONT and not getting greedy. I am usually off the table in five rolls.

[@ColorUp]

So You remove a don’t on the 4/10 when you are a 2:1 favorite to win that bet And you’ve successfully got past the come out roll when you were a 2:1 underdog? Fascinating.

[@victorduncan3254]

@@ColorUp getting paid on the don't come with odds are much more preferable on a six or eight or both than a four or ten. We are GAMBLING. I want to be rewarded for taking a risk. You can lay the odds on both the 4 and 10 and still getting just 1 for 1. How many times have you layed odds on both and got burned over and over. I woud much rather load up on a pass line 4 or 10

[@ColorUp]

Well odds pay at true fair odds of hitting the 7 vs whatever number, but you are more likely to win when 4/10 vs 6/8, But however you like to play is fine.

[@ADPfan07]

Another great video. I like the hedge on the 6, 8. I would just assume play the 4, 5, 9 and 10 out however as you are at least a 3-2 favorite so I'll take my chances with that!!

[@ColorUp]

Really should play the 6/8 too with your advantage, but if ya don't like, at least hedge it

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

Any time you survive the Comeout roll on a Don't bet, ride it out to the end. No hedge - no Hardways, no nothing. You can lay as much odds as your heart will allow - but, and I stress this: You made the Don't bet initially. That was your 'gut' or your mojo or your whatever. If you start tampering with that and hedging it or anything to alter it 'for safety', you are only opening yourself up to not being able to see anything through to the end, and you may miss out on some great opportunities as a result. The saying is: scared money don't make money. The solution to having a bunch of Don't bets picked off by a hot shooter is to stop making them! Or switch sides. If you switch and the dice switch at the same time, it's one of two things - 1) not your night; 2) game is rigged.

[@Alan-yd5pc]

How about STOP buying in when the puck is "ON". That irks the shit out of me. Wait for the puck to go "OFF", then throw your money on the table.

[@JamesWilson1a]

Do you have a video on how to deal craps? Mainly I don’t understand the correct odd bets and payouts. Thanks for the great videos.

[@ColorUp]

Not specific on how to deal but this might help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYHNZ4GhadaLoKM

[@toddphares4916]

What would you say if I had a strategy that doesnt loose???

[@toddphares4916]

6 in 6 out strategy

[@ColorUp]

I’d say send it to me, I can show you way that it will lose.

[@toddphares4916]

@@ColorUp how to send it to you?

[@ColorUp]

Dice advice form in my website - colorup.club

[@jeffsmith5034]

Great video!! One thing wanted to verify...once the point is established and I then come up to the craps table as a new player I can immediately place a bet on the Pass Line but I CAN NOT place a bet on the Don't Pass Line. I've been told that a Don't Pass bet must be made before the point is made but a Pass Line bet can be made before and after the point is made. I'm think I'm correct but can someone verify if I am correct?

[@ColorUp]

You have that correct and here is why. For the come out roll, the pass line has 8 ways to win and 4 ways to lose. After the come out roll the pass line is more likely to lose than to win. The casino will gladly allow you to bet the pass at this point, as you have no advantage and more likely to lose. You should never do this by the way. For the don't pass...The come out roll is the disadvantage, with 3 ways to win and 8 ways to lose, but after point is set, the don't pass is more likely to win vs every point number, and therefore why the casino will not allow a don't pass bet at this moment of the game.

[@jeffsmith5034]

@@ColorUp Thanks for verifying appreciate it!!

[@lazykranch3205]

Seems like you would always place the 5 and 9 if they are your don'ts. You don't lose and you have potential to win a few bucks.

[@ColorUp]

You can do that with all the numbers, but you get paid more if you don’t hedge with the place bets

[@ericnavarre4255]

I’ve won a lot of money on Don’t Pass at the casino after watching the dice go around the table in about 10min. Almost everyone was 2-3 rolls and out

[@ColorUp]

Happens that way sometimes

[@ossamaaasar8567]

Can you please make more videos about these way of playing؟

[@jamessimmers2706]

This is pretty much a 3 pt. Blender Strategy ! I actually like this ! 🎲🎲⚜️

[@ColorUp]

This video is not a way to play, just reminder, never pull down a don’t bet!

[@edmundomartell]

I have an electronic craps game I play. Would doing this strategy with higher amounts help get points with minimal risk?

[@ColorUp]

This is not a strategy. I’m really suggesting you not do this. many elec craps don’t give points and the few that due are at a very reduced rate compared to something like a slot

[@edmundomartell]

@@ColorUp oh okay. The one out here is digital but we actually throw dice. There's a dealer that in puts the card numbers from the dice (California).

[@ColorUp]

Ah, roll to win machine. Releasing video about that today, minus the cards

[@muohiodpowell1974]

Can you place odds on the don’t pass bar bet?

[@ColorUp]

Yes, it’s called laying odds. It works exactly opposite of the way the pass line works

[@mvondrak]

Being in that little DC box is one of the most dangerous spots on the table. I always ask people why they don’t want to travel, I always get “well six and eight are easy to hit!”..... you know what’s easier to hit than a six or eight??? It rhymes with shmeven

[@ColorUp]

exactly!

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

Some people enjoy living dangerously. Just look at all the wingsuit videos.

[@tylerabbott5187]

Does it even make sense to do odds? Why not just put money on the point you’d put on the odds?

[@palerider660]

I would always bet the don’t on five and 9. The are in your favor. Anyone that scared shouldn’t be at the table. I’m sure you would never play that way in real life. I would cover the six and eight but not the 5 4 9 and 10.

[@ColorUp]

Personally I would not hedge any of the numbers, The 7 is more likely to roll, no matter which number.

[@daderado]

I have tried this, but with a $6 Don't. Place the number for same units. $6 Don't, 4 or 10 for $5 win +1 for a 7 or +3 for the 4 or 10 … $6 Don't, 5 or 9 point for $5. (1 dollar profit - 6 for the don't, or 7 for the 5 or 9) … $6 Don't, 6 or 8 point for $6 - (+1 if 6 or 8 hits, Break even if Big Red).

[@dontswin]

You will be there forever to make 40 bucks then as so often happens a steak of 7's n 11's will take whole bunch of that profit you worked so long and hard for! Been there done that...

[@wschoch17]

Terrible advice to round down the offsetting place bets on 6/8 to $5. Why give the casino extra mathematical edge for the psychological benefit of a “break-even”?

[@caitlinalexis6783]

Here's a better strategy. If you want to protect your dark side bet on a 6 or 8, place a minimal bet on the hard 6 or 8. If you were at a $5 table, a $1 bet would net you $5 if the shooter rolls a hard 6 or 8. It also increases your odds because now you only lose to 4 rolls instead of 5. The same can be said if you place a larger don't pass bet and the point is 4 or 10. Let's say you have a $25 bet on the don't pass and the point is a 4. If you go up to 3x odds, you're now risking $100. If you put a $15 hard 4, you are limiting your loss to just 2 rolls. If the shooter rolls a hard 4, you net $5.

[@caitlinalexis6783]

Also at a $10 table, on the come out roll, I would normally do $10 on the don't pass, hop the 7's with $1 each and bet a $1 12 and a $1 yo. Now Im protected on the come out roll and I can win a decent amount if the shooter rolls a 12.

[@ColorUp]

thanks!

[@gilgallant5334]

Just a question. Why not bet 25 on the dont pass, if a 4 is rolled, place the 4 for 25? You end up doubling your win with no risk.... well after the come out roll.

[@brizzlex1919]

That's not doubling your win you will lose when a 4 rolls on the don't. You break even.

[@YaoMingsFriend]

I was thinking you were going to tell me to stop covering the P and making the Ass Line, which I would have said "no, no thank you.".

[@davidgant6720]

I don’t like break even strategies. What’s the point of even playing?

[@ColorUp]

This is not a strategy. Just a warning about removing don’t bets once established. Never do that, if you must because don’t like the number, just place bet to hedge instead.

[@3fifteen11]

It seems to me a place bet of $25 on the established point is the best hedge for a $25 dont pass bet - I either break even or make a few bucks depending on if I get past the come out role - right?

[@ColorUp]

Yep, but you’ve already went thru risky part of come out roll. Once dont point is established you are now the favorite. I’d rather win $25, then a couple dollars when hedged.