CRAZIEST TRAIN IN HUNGARY / MAV BZMOT REVIEW / HUNGARIAN TRAIN TRIP REPORT

[@bencegyors]

Great video! Some fun facts: There are a little less than 200 of these railcars in Hungary. They also have additional coaches that can be attached. For example, some services run in a railcar+coach+coach+coach+railcar composition. These railcars are the base of rural railways in Hungary (of which there are a lot). The purchase of 31 Desrio DMUs, as well as the arrival of 41 416 series units have helped reduce the number of Bzmot railcars, but most rural railway lines would simply cease to exist without them. A replacement to come in this decade has been promised. So, they are uncomfortable, loud and bumpy.. But they mean the only connection to the outer world for thousands of Hungarians. A small refurbishment project has been started, through which some units got air conditioners, and some other upgrades. Thanks for the great content, keep it up!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It was a very interesting experience! 😁

[@jeromebano1125]

@@NonstopEurotrip there are similar railcars like these operating in Czech Republic & Slovakia.

[@omsibence]

@@jeromebano1125 Because these are built in Czechoslovakia.

[@jeromebano1125]

@@omsibence I know they are often used on short runs over the border into Germany Domazlice Furth im Wald were they made by Skoda?

[@omsibence]

@@jeromebano1125 No, they aren't built in Skoda. They were built in Vagonka Studénka. This is located in Czech Republic now. Some of them had Skoda engines, but they weren't the best, so it was changed to MAN engines.

[@igorsiuda8108]

The CD Class 810s (that's another name of them) are very famous also in former Czechoslovakia! These railbuses are also able to run in my country, Poland (that's why these trains are waiting at Szklarska Poręba Górna station for (mostly) a run to Liberec (but there's also a shortened route to Harrachov, too)).

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Cracking little trains 🚃🙂

[@igorsiuda8108]

@@NonstopEurotrip Sure!🚃

[@bettytiszai8056]

aahhhh, those old memories coming back to me, i was living in Hungary and with my grandfather we always rode thease trains :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They're still going strong! ☺️

[@pinba4136]

Hungarian boi here: The Bzmot is being replaced with desiros and class 416s And you should try the Stadler FLIRT or KISS trains. They are comfy, fast and good. I really recommend them.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

MÁV FLIRT video this Friday 🙂

[@zoltanboros8963]

Well, I think Bzmots will live with us for a while.

[@benedekdemeny8308]

Thanks for view hungary, my country!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I love it!

[@genericname8284]

Hi! Hungarian native railfan here. We gave a lot of nicknames to these railcars: -"Bézé", after their original classification code of "BZmot" (now Class 117) -"Tégla" (meaning brick), after their original all-red paint scheme and their shape -"Kispiros" (meaning "little red (one)"), after their size and paint color -"Bűzmot" (meaning "smelly motor car"), after them being notoriously unclean -"Vonatpótló vonat" (meaning "train replacement train"), after them somewhat resembling buses used to substitute trains -"Studenka", after their manufacturer -"Bozót Expressz" (meaning "shrubbery express") after their extensive use on neglected branch lines, which are often overgrown with shrubs The aforementioned "Piroska" (having basically the same meaning as "Kispiros") is used for these railcars as well, however, that nickname mostly applied to the "MDmot" class of trainsets. There's also a refurbished variant of these vehicles, which is the MÁV Class 127, formerly BZmot 4×× series, those are (officially) called "InterPici", a pun on the pronunciation of InterCity. If you've made it here, thanks for reading through this paragraph-long comment. Hope you have a great day!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks for sharing 😊

[@BillinHungary]

Hungarians have an affectionate nickname for these - Piroska, which is the name for Little Red Riding Hood.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😍😍😍

[@genericname8284]

Hi! Hungarian native railfan here. We gave a lot of nicknames to these railcars: -"Bézé", after their original classification code of "BZmot" (now Class 117) -"Tégla" (meaning brick), after their original all-red paint scheme and their shape -"Kispiros" (meaning "little red (one)"), after their size and paint color -"Bűzmot" (meaning "smelly motor car"), after them being notoriously unclean -"Vonatpótló vonat" (meaning "train replacement train"), after them somewhat resembling buses used to substitute trains -"Studenka", after their manufacturer -"Bozót Expressz" (meaning "shrubbery express") after their extensive use on neglected branch lines, which are often overgrown with shrubs The aforementioned "Piroska" (having basically the same meaning as "Kispiros") is used for these railcars as well, however, that nickname mostly applied to the "MDmot" class of trainsets. There's also a refurbished variant of these vehicles, which is the MÁV Class 127, formerly BZmot 4×× series, those are (officially) called "InterPici", a pun on the pronunciation of InterCity. If you've made it here, thanks for reading through this paragraph-long comment. Hope you have a great day!

[@balazsbardos8303]

I live in hungary and the trains are realy old but the seats are very comfortly, better than the new train seats (for example on the stadler flirt trains).

[@NonstopEurotrip]

And great fun to ride 😊🇭🇺

[@therealpeter2267]

I agree, the seats in the uzsgyi too can't even compare to these bz seats

[@yagi3925]

As some people have already commented, this diesel set is a common view in rural areas of Hungary. I recently took one from Pécs across the border to Pélmonostor (Beli Manastir) in Croatia. There was a metal plaque in the doorway that indicated it had been built in the late 1970s in then Czechoslovakia. It's a model of local train that was in use in pretty much every communist country in Europe during Soviet times.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I'm glad I got to experience them!

[@SuperalbsTravels]

That's my only ride on one too, up on the Beli Manastir to Pécs line. Was a weird day that, police told me off for taking photos, and then told me the front unit had aircon (which it did, very effective).

[@therealpeter2267]

​@@SuperalbsTravels ah it was a train conductor then, not police right? some could be grumpy, but if you don't take pictures of them or passengers they won't bother

[@SuperalbsTravels]

@@therealpeter2267 It was the police.

[@jmsmilfajt]

Nice! Only few of them remained in service in Czechia as they were rebuilt into various different classes of trainsets like the Regionova or the "ant". The rest is equipped with "normal" seats, slidable windows, new engines and sometimes even Wifi and LCD panels. Check out the ride of ČD 811, that's the newest type with air conditioning. 😂 Also, it is said that these trains "saved" the local rural lines from their end so they are not going to be replaced in the next +- 20 years at least.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

That sounds interetsing... But there is some appeal with the original interiors!

[@jmsmilfajt]

@@NonstopEurotrip Yes, there sure is! But only if it's not your daily commuter service to work.

[@velda205]

@@NonstopEurotrip I think, in Czechia , they are in a lot better condition, bcs most of them are reconstructed somehow. They will be with us max to 2030 - that's plan of ČD , they are looking around for some new , to replace it now. I recommend you to try them as well as Regionova

[@velda205]

@@NonstopEurotrip As well I will recommend to you one czech site - vagonweb.cz Large fotogallery of rail cars, coaches .. all around Europe

[@skolaprimitivne428]

The same in Slovakia, here we have unit 812 ZSSK and unit 813-913 ZSSK, also known as "baguette" and it’s newer variation "ant".

[@AnnabelSmyth]

The inside of the train reminds me of the old VEPs (slam-door trains) in the 1980s that you are probably far too young to remember! I once travelled from Prague to Budapest by train, which was comfortable and enjoyable - we also went on the Children's Railway in Budapest which - wasn't! Do go on it if you get a chance, though - it is an experience not to be missed, even if not very comfortable.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I'll be going back when we can travel easier again... thanks for the info!

[@silenthunteruk]

Reminds me of the Class 205 I went on at the Spa Valley Railway...

[@IThinkICare]

I did Prague - Budapest in the 80s. The only place that I could breathe (non smoking car) was a car with no heat. In the winter. It was a very long trip.

[@JeremiCzarnecki]

Suddenly I love my country - and the rail operators - just a little bit more!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes yes! 😊

[@Flykeston]

oh the bzmot, people who live in rural areas know it well

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Very unique!

[@azuraviation2599]

If you travel on a daily or weekly basis with these trains you learn to compromise with what you have at the moment, I use them on a daily basis and they are perfect for me. Many passengers do not understand that a train does not exist for hotel and comfort, but to take you to your destination

[@NonstopEurotrip]

For some people it's about the journey and not the destination. I like these trains tho, don't get me wrong 😊🙏🏻

[@azuraviation2599]

@@NonstopEurotrip Ye you did a very good job about review our trains like a casual people with a normal eye, our trains old and sometimes dirty true :D But there are some golden nuggets like the 418 class pulled retro train what u called "soviet :D" and why is the door open? Old things doing old things. someone does not closed the door :D

[@azuraviation2599]

More about the bzmot: old times they looked all red and in the inside there is no headrest. they added it when they retrofited them with the max speed from 70 km/h increased to 80 km/h

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you ☺️🙏🏻

[@nbh3656]

I used to get this every year as a kid, after the Inter City from Budapest to Miskolc. Sometimes we even had to get 3 trains to get to Putnok!

[@levs5319]

imo the bzmot is basically a bus with steel wheels

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes 😅

[@Fran-xu9ic]

The Eastern European Schienenbus I guess

[@NerdX151]

As a Scandinavian I quickly fell in love with the Hungarian railways due to their M61 NOHAB diesel locomotives, which have a cult following among railway fans in my country. I also love how MAV have bought some of the old eastern german "Halberstadt" coaches. It is a great country to visit if you want to experience some old-school rail travel.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yep, it's certainly a special place to travel by train and experience some nostalgic experiences!

[@blista2]

NOHAB has a cult here too.

[@IThinkICare]

Funny, as a Hungarian I fell in love with the Scandinavians as I was traveling for a month on their trains in 80s. It was clean and civilised. Could not stay there. Danes through me out :(

[@robertcapek2425]

I remember these trains. Very socialistic things. Still, they've got you from A to B and it didn't rain inside so I guess it was OK...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

That's the main thing, get you there and not get wet lol!

[@drdewott9154]

I guess that already makes it better than the Copenhagen S trains built by Alstom and Siemens. I've experienced rain going through the roof on those trains a fair number of times now.

[@gaborkovari5093]

For decades these little Bzmots were rolling manywhere, even Budapest metropolitan areas. They're still in use at many rural regions in the country but slowly being pushed out by Desiro or other cars.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They're still great fun 😊

[@gaborkovari5093]

@@NonstopEurotrip Definitely. I like to relive this retro experience if i can. One of the most beautiful routes where they're running through is the Vác-Balassagyarmat line. Danube bend, fairytale-like valleys, forests in the Börzsöny mountains section and hills with castle ruins on them. Worth a try if you didn't yet.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

@@gaborkovari5093 Excellent, thanks for the information!

[@NinjaBlue9151]

I was sitting in these days on a BZ Train i loved it to see ouside and was good so i say its amazing

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It really is!

[@AlexScafes]

As far as you go more east, this type of trains and condition are a common. For you this train and condition is something unusual and surprising, for us unfortunatelly is something we got used. For riding them once, it can be an adventure like a travel in time, but commuting daily with this is not so good, but sometimes there is a lack of option to do. Good video.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks. Don't get me wrong I do love the history and charm of this train! 👍🏻

[@therealpeter2267]

I loved to commute with these to high school, best mode of transport between Kunszentmárton and Szentes. I don't like buses, and uzsgyi carts which are also common on these tracks are inferior

[@vekkerandras]

Try the Hatvan-Somoskőújfalu, Győr-Veszprém and Eger-Szilvásvárad lines! :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks for the recommendation 😃🇭🇺

[@rsdworker]

we have nearly simllar train in UK - - called worm - the single carriage train - buty replaced with more modern trains (2 carriages ore more)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Never heard of a worm train 😂

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

The Class 153? Never heard anyone call them "worm". Usually they're nicknamed Lunchbox, Scud or Dogbox.

[@jimmenycricket4598]

Reminds me a bit of the single coach DMU's France had up until the early/mid 90's, especially the toilets...... Only been to Hungary (Budapest to be precise) once and that was on a day trip from Gatwick airport with Dan Air in the early 80's (this was long before the advent of low cost airlines)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Way before my time 😅

[@jimmenycricket4598]

@@NonstopEurotrip 😉

[@marcinklimas2670]

Try the class 810 in Czech, Slovakia, or Poland. It is the same.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I will be sure to!

[@dandagames6030]

Similiar not exactly the same, for example there are only two axles in the whole train and its constrcted by another company

[@JeremiCzarnecki]

I don't think any of those run in Poland - do they? Are they CD / ZSSK services crossing the border or were we graced by a smattering of those socialist equivalents to Pacers? On a lighter note - until 2010, the MAV services ran by the Bzmot's were named InterPici. How apt!

[@marcinklimas2670]

@@JeremiCzarnecki Lebawka- Kralovec, and Pleszew- Pleszew Miasto.

[@genericname8284]

​@@JeremiCzarneckiThe InterPici nickname applies to the Class 127 railcars, which are refurbished BZmots (Class 117s). InterPici was also the name of an official service, which connected branch line traffic to InterCity trains, hence the "Inter-" part.

[@omsibence]

There are a lot of BZMOT's in our contry, Hungary. There is in almost every "side route".

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes I know 😃

[@IThinkICare]

Kecskemet - Baja can't count as a side route :) almost 3h.

[@thealitaliaa7714]

This trainset kinda remids me of the Italian ALn 668.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes! I know what you mean 👍🏻

[@cijaksavola1096]

Šukafón 😁 a.k.a Kostitras- Boneshaker, ( nicknames of this train)...was built in ex-Czechoslovakia and operated by Czech , Slovak(ZSSK,CD-class 810) and as I found it out now, by Hungarian Railways too

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Lovely classic trains 🥰

[@kovacsabelkristof3566]

Hey very nice video. There 's no doubt that Hungary's rail network, and especially rolling stock are quite old, but we're catching up to the west. Very slowly..

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you! I love Hungary 😀

[@jmsmilfajt]

Yes you surely do! The Hungarian network is in a similar shape to the Slovak one. Here in Czechia I think it's a few years ahead as the core network is already almost entirely 140-160 km/h now being modernized for up to 200 km/h in the future but I think the biggest difference made the competition - the national carrier had to buy ex-ÖBB carriages and had to compete with Regiojet and Leo that were offering much more for the price of the ticket. Before that it wasn't unusual to see ČD intercity with 40 years old carriages with leatherette coupés and without air conditioning. After competitors came, ČD came with the Railjets, great Bmz coaches and bought some new locos. The Regiojet train now goes all the way to Budapest so maybe it will help to improve the intercity rolling stock of MAV. :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I was so impressed with Leo and Regio 🤩🤩🤩

[@o-lajos1798]

​@@jmsmilfajt Apparently MÁV trains on the line Hegyeshalom-Budapest(where RJ trains also travel) are the best compared to other lines. I think there is around 600km of railway in Hungary where trains could reach 160km/h but it's only permitted on the Hegyeshalom-Budapest line. Intercity trains consists of the best coaches from MÁV's lineup and a Siemens ES64U2 or a Bombardier Traxx loco. Stopping trains here are low-floor multiple units. The trains on other lines are similar from your previous video from Hungary, and sometimes so-called fast train carriages outnumber the IC coaches in an IC train(but new IC coaches are slowly but being built so we might see an improvement). Raaberbahn/GYSEV is the other railway company on this line(IC trains from Sopron/Szombathely to Budapest) is somewhat of a competitior to MÁV, although it's owned by the Hungarian and Austrian states. Raaberbanh and MÁV conductors switch at Győr station(where the Raaberbahn line ends and MÁV line starts). Their rolling stock is similar to ČD and RegioJet with Vectron locos and ex-ÖBB Bmz coaches(some compartments were classified as first class, their design was changed but the size remains the same, so it's a bit of fakery 😠, however first class isn't too popular in Hungary). By the way, the Raaberbahn survived two world wars, Trianon(well, it's not wise from me to bring this topic on) and the iron curtain while operating in both countries. Raaberbahn used to have Bzmots in the 80s and 90s. When they took over the operation of some non-electrified lines in 2011 they bought second-hand ÖBB 5047 and 5147 DMUs from Austria. They are definetely better than these little red bricks. 😂

[@jmsmilfajt]

@@o-lajos1798 Thank you for your in-depth reply! I am much more enlightened now. So there needs to be more competition on other lines as well and Raaberbahn is not exactly that kind of a competitor that would drastically push MAV to improve their services nation-wide. Regarding the rail network being prepared for 160 km/h, these are just words when the maximum speed is still 120 km/h... Is it due to signalling or the lack of ETCS? And Bzmots... I'm just reading a new Czech article about the same DMUs being once again, modernized, due to lack of interest from manufacturers to make a similar new units - railbus for 70 pax (bigger DMUs are too inefficient). Bigger units were replaced easily by older Alstom Lints and Stadler GTWs and the diesel R-Ex routes by refurbished DB 628 (similar to the ÖBB 5147 - much better that what was here before 😂 ).

[@HelloOnepiece]

As a history geek I relly like them, however using them whenever we decided to have a holiday in the rural parts of the country was major pain in the ass

[@Okinawa951]

You should come to Italy. I'm a train conductor in Tuscany and my town Siena has a lot of 1979-1980 diesel trains running everyday from Siena to Florence. 😊

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I've been to Italy lots 😀 and I really enjoy it! 🇮🇹

[@zavaraninoveuhorky]

looks identical to those czechoslovak one wagon motor units

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It is...

[@mountaineersimon9843]

Bro did you know im hungarian! For example here is my favorite words: Vonat,MÁV-START and Utazás :)

[@czonczike630]

I would be interested by what do you think of GYSEV's Jenbacher train. It replaced these on line 18.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Next time 🙂

[@therealpeter2267]

I don't get why you said it's uncomfortable, these are one of my favourite trains to ride on, plenty of room and comfortable seats

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Not been on many trains obviously 😬

[@MoritzVelten]

Nice video. Can you also do a Triü Reporrt on class 416 and 127 (InterPici)? Would be great.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I've got a few more videos in Hungary already filmed 😎

[@zoltanboros8963]

Oh, you made a circular journey. :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yep 😁

[@Fran-xu9ic]

I think this lovely train goes back to 1968

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Built early 80s

[@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt]

5:35 No, I've never been on a Hungarian train. I think the Hungarian railways are a bit old and antiquated 6:34 Video's final score: 10 5 for not to fail this video 5 for the whole trip report (It's long enough)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks as ever!

[@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt]

@@NonstopEurotrip Well, I'll only say that last 5 points of 10 to score the video are based on the video's duration. Until 10 minutes, you'll gain 5 points. If you pass that 10 minutes' limit you'll lose 1 point for every more 5 minutes of video. For example, if the video is between 10 and 15 minutes long, the video's final score is 9. And I'm thinking about putting decimals. For example, if the video is between 10 minutes and 10 and a half minutes long, you'll gain 9.9 points. You know, when you don't have ideas about how to score KZbin videos. Finally, I hope you returned back to your home in France, because your whole country is in lockdown. Greetings from Southern Spain (Andalusia)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

@@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt you're not going to like next week's video then 😅

[@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt]

@@NonstopEurotrip Don't worry. You'll earn 5 points for not to fail next week's video plus the points for the video's duration, but I'll enjoy it like a video that lasts less than 10 minutes, even if it's a video that lasts more than 10 minutes

[@bhavanabhamare7112]

Very nice 👌👌

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks!.

[@csavokkis5405]

Beautifull train Im hungary

[@NonstopEurotrip]

👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@tram-train]

To be honest the trains are great, the company is good but the delays are unbareble, sometimes a train dealys 200 minutes and these stuf happen daily...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I've seen this too 🤣

[@chorokee]

That train feels like 1990s Korail's RDC (refurbished diesel car) train. The sound of engine is pretty familiar, and the experience is pretty bad)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Haha it wasn't my best experience 🤣

[@DanielsUKT]

Nice video on the Hungarian pacer trains

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Way better than pacers 😂

[@DanielsUKT]

@@NonstopEurotrip OK

[@nosi9167]

Do Mexico pls

[@IThinkICare]

There are worse train, you should have gone the other direction to Baja. So loud, so hot (was summer) , so slow. Wow! there was paper in the toilet ?! wow !

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Ikr amazing 😂

[@sxflyer5410]

ČD in the Czech Republic has quite similar ones, even in use on the Prague commuter train system (particularly on line S65). I actually really like them, because those little trains prevent that more underused routes are being put out of service.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly, cheap to run and with small capacity 👌🏻😁

[@danubianempire5189]

Because they were produced in Czechoslovakia. Bzmot class is just ČSD Class M 152.0 (today ČD Class 810 and ŽSR Class 810) produced for Hungarian State Railways by Vagónka Studénka (former Staudinger Waggonfabrik, nowdays known as Škoda Vagonka).

[@maxster_8989]

The toilet is bad but there are worse out there. 🚽🚾👎

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Lol I bet 🤣

[@marvsslu]

Disgusting and horrible trains

[@azuraviation2599]

Why tho?

[@genericname8284]

​@@azuraviation2599 Noisy, dirty, very hot in the summer (most of them don't have AC), they bump around a lot, and let's not talk about the toilets. But they (most often) work, get the job done, and most branch lines would cease to exist without them.