CRAZY SHARP edges with New TSProf Pioneer: Introduction

[@robertbutler8004]

With the longer knife that was touching the table when turning anyone with half a brain would have set up the knife sharpener overhanging the edge of the table.

[@CedricAda]

the knife hanging over the edge or the table with kids and pets running around was a little too precarious, but great job on embodying the ‘grouchy keyboard warrior’ npc archetype. Shame it took you two comments to get the poison out. Anyone with half a brain would watch till the end and do just one negative comment for greater impact.

[@barkingspider2007]

@@CedricAda It takes a thick skin to make a KZbin video. Having made a handful of sharpening videos gives me a greater appreciation of the work you have done for many years. Thank you very much! If you were in the US you are just the sort of mate I'd like to share a pint with. 😎👍🍺 Thanks again.

[@cornpop9262]

On the website this saysbit can only sharpen a 5mm thick knife. I have some bowies that are 6nm. Do you think i could just get some longer screws for the clamps and it will work? Please help if you can. Thanks bud ​@@CedricAda

[@archivist17]

Oh no! Do we need to redo the entire sharpener tier ratings?

[@giba1963]

😆🙌

[@Brotheroftheleaf]

Yeah I'm getting one. I'm also going to play Fire Emblem Three houses again. Nice touch with the music.

[@gregmccormack5709]

I feel like making a wooden stand with a pull out drawer for this guy would be the ultimate. You could store the accessories and raise it up allowing for long knife flipping. Great review.

[@heavyweightsound]

Great idea! Maybe put in a thick plate of Steel to weight the whole thing down

[@Bushcraftandknives]

I have the TSPROF Blitz Pro, and I'm very satisfied with it. However it is rather expensive, so it's nice to se a more affordable TSPROF.👍 Thank you for sharing.

[@frenstcht]

I just figured out why the angle cube is so important. It's why you don't have to obsess over the exact placement of the knife in the clamps, since the cube makes sure the angle is the same as previous sharpenings. This took me years to finally cotton to. Not sure if I should be embarrassed or proud.

[@billvan5219]

The nice thing about that system is you can sharpen while watching football and still succeed 🙃

[@sebastianreddan1647]

Around 11.30 you can see the kitchen knife tip flex due to sharpening pressure, this can be mitigated a bit by opening your clamps wider.

[@CedricAda]

indeed I should definitely have widened it for that knife and would suggest that as best practice for sure

[@robertbutler8004]

@@CedricAda and you needed to be reminded of that.

[@cornpop9262]

You sound miserable ​@@robertbutler8004

[@krazmokramer]

Very nice initial review, Pete! These two TS Prof sharpeners really get my attention. However, the portability and outstanding tech support of my KME keep me loyal to them. KME portability design and carrying case make it easy for me to take my sharpener to a friends home to sharpen their knives, rather than them schlepping their knives to my home. But this Pioneer sure looks like a nice sharpener. THANKS PETE!!!!!

[@mikeobrien4081]

Clamping some kind of rigid pedestal between the table top and TSProf base would give you enough clearance to flip kitchen-sized knives. I nominate Bricky.

[@Halil.İbrahim_Koçoğlu]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and thoughts regarding the new tsprof pioneer, knife, sharpener. You literally saved me from spending an extra $2,600 (Australian ). Now thanks to your video I feel confident in purchasing the pioneer or the cadet version whereas the pioneer is worth ~$340 Though the full system with extras actually cost $3000! Thank you so very much and wish you a G’day. I’ll definitely be watching and subscribing to your KZbin channel. Ciao! All the best.

[@kfauagkdyu3720]

Здравствуйте сейчас для Pioner сделали новую подставку с лапками 🔥 Мне уже пришла👍

[@chriswolf7169]

I just bought one today to replace my KME. It was time to move on from the good ol days😅 do you like the TSPROF over the KME as far as build quality? Or is it just a preference to go for one company over another? Thanks for the content, never miss a video😎👊

[@powdermonkey5183]

Yes I want to know as well. I have the KME and like it but wonder he same thing.

[@Muscovy7]

TSProf is definitely better build quality for sure. KME is no slouch though, the TSProf is of course pricier which is why this pioneer is so intriguing.

[@davestelling]

I graduated from my KME to this KO-3. The KME is a great set-up, too - I just wanted something more. No regrets at all with the TSPROF! Incredible tool...

[@strangelyfamiliar1729]

Have you received it yet and what are your thoughts?

[@mattdagger1480]

thanks for the review! still loving my KME right now but if im ever in the market this could be a great option! prefer usa made but i would def consider this

[@TheGuidedSharpeningGuide]

Great video! Those are just TSPROF diamond plates. The Venev ones are resin bonded and double sided.

[@Chevyv8man1]

I have a suggestion for you. Drill a couple of holes in the base of the sharpener and screw it down to a board. Now you won't have to clamp it down. If you make the board the right length, it will be over the table so you won't have to worry about it hanging over the edge like you were talking about in this video. Just a suggestion but it worked for my sharpener quite well. I really enjoy your videos and look forward to when you releasing one. Thanks - Later

[@genesishep]

Not necessary as there are already holes in the base to do just that. If you watch the video you'll catch that there are two pre-drilled holes ready to mount the base to whatever you choose. I would probably mount it to a thicker piece of heavy lumber. Something that will anchor it as well as raise it high enough to prevent large knives from hitting any surface below. Or of course you could just mount it so it hangs off a table edge.

[@unknownriderinbound]

Silly me, I didn't see this as a scary thing, but fortunately Mother Yootoob suppressed the new video notification to let me know this is another thing to be feared. Praise be the Benevolent Overlords!

[@jasonmuir704]

Would love to get the hapstone rs, but this looks better for the longer kitchen knives due to the base not getting in the way when switching sides. $140 more, but I’m guessing the pioneer is made from the remains of the iron curtain that protected the USSR ?? It sure does look solid.

[@heavyweightsound]

Great video! Was going to get the Work Sharp professional Precision adjust until I saw this at about the same price. My question is would it be able to sharpen a skinny blade like the CEO or the civivi clavi? Thx!

[@knoxknifemods]

Great video, eventually want to save up for a system like this. Sidenote, would love to see some kayaking adventure videos man! (Or bring back Dickhead Survival 😮)

[@kerryrwac]

looks like the base has two holes in it so you could attach it to a work bench or a slate tile.

[@trshuster]

Thanks Pete!

[@Sanchito209]

First time seeing this one. Looks really solid.

[@kfauagkdyu3720]

У меня 3 станка Tsprof 👍

[@GrowLLLTigeRRR]

Thank you for the nice video. Did your Pioneer model come complete with the angle cube?

[@funkytizzletelevizzl]

What is the best solution for full flat grinds (considering centrical alignment) and also sharpening the Leatherman blade? Is this tsprof the right tool for these 2 applications?

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

Looks like a decent machine

[@_brianm]

TL;DR It is of value.

[@tacklecentralfishing1051]

Meat for kitty Another day perhaps

[@RedRider73]

Great review. Buy what you want I don’t give a shit about invasions….why is everyone surprised they been at odds over there since before most of us have been born. I just bought one and I love it. A great knife sharpener very pleased.

[@jdemeter4357]

Only thing that you would need is a deeper clamp and set the sharpener system in the corner of the table. Still having it hang off the edge of the table. Love my Blitz 360 that Jarad recommended 😊

[@jdemeter4357]

The jaws on your's are bigger in all directions ( thicker blades can be sharpened )😮😊

[@archivist17]

Interesting first impressions

[@mikefox7947]

I love how you say aluminum lol great vid as always

[@jeromywiles2186]

Man that looks nice!

[@stevenlachance8576]

Got a KME and some Venev 6” stones. Been thinking of moving to ts prof any thoughts? What model should I be looking at. Price is not the only issue, would like to get a definitive system and be done with it. Also want a single clamp option to come with system-that is work out of the box.

[@burtjoubert]

If you want a one and done top of the range system, the TSProf K03 is your best bet.

[@davestelling]

I agree that the KO-3 by TSPROF is pretty much the ultimate. Pricey, but - we get what we pay for...

[@destro6971]

Hi Pete!! Fun Fact: I played your Cursed Advocate video for my wife (went in cold, she was not prepared, full video experience) and she just told me that when I die it will be 30 minutes earlier than destiny had planned because she is owed that time now.

[@CedricAda]

hahaha probably the best review that production have ever received

[@destro6971]

@@CedricAda art should hurt 😂

[@nandayane]

When it comes to Meat for Kitty I find that I need to mince it up really really fine for my Kittys to eat it.

[@soullessone_edc6226]

I've wanted a wicked edge for years but now it's a toss up with it and the tsprof blitz 360

[@Dreamrages]

Thinking of getting my first TSprof set, what do you recommend Kadet pro or Pioneer?

[@Colt3854]

When is the review of this tool, waiting patiently.

[@leotam3372]

Have you tried to dress/refresh your old venev stones yet? They have a decent amount of abrasive in them and should last a while

[@mychannelnotyours123]

The stone holder should index on the stone's front sharpening surface instead of clamping onto the back. Then when you end up with a dozen different thicknesses of stones you won't be trying to match the angles.

[@awwwshucks443]

I'd love to see a fillet or flexible boning knife sharpened with this as a test. Those knives are the absolute biggest pains to sharpen.

[@hammerhandedhelm]

I still go with my lansky 💪 don't really need anything else 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ArmageddonAfterparty]

Your translating app has a camera option. It will look at text and translate it real time.

[@jamesgosling4303]

Are these actually ‘Venev’ brand stones included? I’m no expert but I didn’t think the TS prof stones were ‘Venev’ stones…I thought Venev stones were made in/ from Ukraine(?) (I could be wrong…!)

[@DinoNucci]

Hoss, the audio echo these days could get worked on. 🤗🤗

[@martinraw3449]

the 20 degree angle on the angel marker is this 20 degree each side or 10 degree each side

[@ohioknifelover]

Hey Pete! It's been a while since I got to watch your videos again! I really do like this system so far! I have the KME and I hand sharpen with DMT Diafolds when I need to touch knives up. This looks like a nice system that you don't need to take apart, those screws looked like a nightmare 😅 Is the sharpener made of metal on the base or a stronger plastic?

[@CedricAda]

still metal just less of it!

[@ohioknifelover]

@@CedricAda That's good! Since it wasn't too heavy compared to the other I got curious

[@jesseadams45]

​@CedricAda there are a couple AL Mar Eagles on Recon1. I know you love those things:)

[@funkytizzletelevizzl]

Hey, what do you think about the BLITZ one from the tsprof people…? I have it in use but never saw you mention this model 😅

[@apmcintyre]

Pete, leaving aside the political arguments, the Pioneer or the Hapstone RS?

[@TNUni167]

Is it possible to use something like King Sharpening Stones or diamond plates instead of the Ts Prof Factory stones?

[@johnbowen5336]

Irwin carpentry/woodworking clamps will make it a lot easier to attach that thing to a table.

[@bamabladez]

Just got mine in today and very disappointed I spent $300 and it will not hold my spyderco para 3, Protech Sbr, Cjrb pyrite and many more 3 3half inch blades. Some are due to the thumb studs. I sharpend the SBR with just one clamp and now I have a double edge near the choil. Does this mean I have to spend more money just to sharpen an everyday size pocket knife? Didn't know theses were geared towards larger knives.

[@CedricAda]

i can shapen small knives no worries, I just use one jaw and take the other off?

[@bamabladez]

@@CedricAda Thanks!. Yes I did this and had an issue at the choil area because the stone was perpendicular it left an ugly bevel and edge angle. It wasn't hitting the apex at the end of the edge. After some reading I just needed to spend more time at that spot to even out.

[@k-rad7]

Hey Pete. Do you have a preference between your Kadet and Pioneer? Trying to decide on a setup and whether the Kadet is worth the couple hundred extra (in Aus). For use mostly on kitchen and pocket knives so size not an issue, more interested in your thoughts on usability/build. Cheers mate

[@CedricAda]

probably spend the extra for the kadet

[@namelesske]

You must drill screws in to the bench for the smaller one.

[@EdgeStoneKnives]

Those are not the Venev stones. Venev stones are resin bonded, cost more than that sharpener and last a lifetime. All those you have are the super cheap TSProf electroplated diamond stones the don't last very long.

[@davestelling]

I have the KO-3 w/ the included abrasive stones, I understand they wear quickly, too. A set of the Venev would my next purchase - have heard all kinds of good things about them...

[@EdgeStoneKnives]

@@davestelling I loved my Venev Orion but what I love even more are the Hapstone Premium CBN. Absolutely incredible in every way possible. Can't be beat.

[@kkim5000]

FIRE EMBLEM MUSIC. there was a video i remember where you were using xenoblade music. knives and video game OSTs? I HAVE FOUND MY CHANNEL.

[@KenEddy-j2e]

why is my stone hitting the front edge of the clamp. I sharpen to 18 degrees. There appears to be very little clearance. I do zero off the top of the base, them set angle with level in the round rod.

[@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302]

So Uncle Randy and Bricky walk into a bar together....

[@FrancoisCloutierChose]

What happened with the scandi knife seen @8:45 minutes? Can you sharpen scandis on this device?

[@CedricAda]

You can, but the radius of this is guaranteed to be different to the radius of the tool and user in the factory so it will be very hard to line it all up perfectly. You will definitely hit the very edge all the way around but the higher parts (ie that nice crisp uniform big bevel) will likely be thrown off a little.

[@kevola5739]

Having to clamp the base down seems to put you in awkward or dangerous positions when sharpening as well as being inconvenient at times. If you have to carry a clamp with you then is it really any lighter or convenient than the heavier and taller base.The angle cube looks a little to fidgety for me as well. Made in Russia? Deal breaker for me.

[@kevola5739]

@@unnamed47 - Fair enough point, I did not know there were mounting holes. though this sort of takes away from the portability feature.

[@kevola5739]

@@unnamed47 - When your right, your right!

[@starkparker16]

If you don't open cardboard tabs with a knife like C&A then you don't even knife.

[@JoviAl-wi8sc]

I wonder if someone makes a longer holder for the KME so you could use the larger Venev stones on it 🤔 That would be both portable and convenient.

[@jclebedev]

gritomatic used to have one, I don't know if they still do.

[@powdermonkey5183]

i have the KME and love it. I like how it can swivel. if they had longer stones it would be perfect.

[@JoviAl-wi8sc]

Thanks, I’ll look into that 👍🏻

[@JoviAl-wi8sc]

Turns out even with a 6 inch stone the max amount of range of motion you have on a KME is around 4 inches 🤦🏼‍♂️ back to the drawing board.

[@Zero_8347]

Does that take the same stones as the edge pro?

[@ericfg806]

How low of an angle can this go? I'd like to use this for coarse thinning.

[@CedricAda]

would depend on the tallness of the blade but goes down to about 12 per side on this kitchen knife before it could start to sharpen the jaws too

[@ericfg806]

@@CedricAda Thanks!!!

[@strannostrannovasrr]

How are you able to pay them?

[@beaver6d9]

Beefy on a budget

[@nnoddy8161]

6mth update?

[@onodera3964]

Fun fact #2: Venev rhymes with Villeneuve.

[@jayr526]

Well! That certainly clears things up.

[@onodera3964]

Fun fact: you can buy it for $130 in Russia.

[@just9911]

If they were made somewhere other than Russia, I’d consider buying one. Slava Ukraini

[@twatmunro]

I'm pretty sure the guy who makes them isn't responsible for invading Russia personally.

[@just9911]

@@twatmunro so what? I don’t want to send any money into the economy of that nation. That’s the whole point of a boycott.

[@22fps]

I won't buy it because its from russia

[@just9911]

⁠​⁠@@twatmunroseriously- try to run the logic out. The purpose of boycotting all goods from a given nation is to affect the economic situation of that nation to the point where the negative consequences of continuing in their course of action outweighs the benefits. If you give all private entities a pass because “they aren’t personally responsible”, nothing changes.

[@CKshouta]

BASED. hapstone is basically the Ukranian counterpart so I'd say buy from them instead

[@eachday9538]

Cool things Russians do when they are at home in Russia

[@busbus76]

Good

[@picklewiickle.1583]

-the problem is the flexing , the hole mechanism sticks out way to far from its pivot point. poor design

[@BigBellyEd]

Slicy

[@john0270]

And still no one uses the actual knife to set the angle.....

[@andreasjonsson8075]

Buy KosiM sharpener. Just as good, a little less money and support Ukraine!!!! Slava Ukraine, long live the free world

[@Minusroot8]

12:51 TSPROF Seppuku!!!

[@jmanbrosef689]

I don't think thoose are venev stones

[@22fps]

won't buy anything from russia

[@tacticalcenter8658]

I won't buy anything from Ukraine. Stop listening to propaganda.

[@Wiktan]

appreciate your position!

[@Halil.İbrahim_Koçoğlu]

Not even an AK-47 ? 😅

[@CaptRohmer]

Nope. Not supporting a terrorist state.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

The USA is a terrorist state that is the one causing it them to be at war by proxy. Stop watching propaganda.

[@23Scadu]

I've tried that in the past, but too many things are from the USA.

[@Uncle_Red]

Ummm... You don't know much about China, do you...?

[@eduardsharabar5053]

Supporting terrorism? You crazy?!

[@Wiktan]

buying russian products == direct support terrorism, war in Ukraine, genocide of ukrainian people

[@bas17h4]

I know a much better sharpener for the price on Amazon, but I'm not gonna say the name or the price will skyrocket ;)

[@robertbutler8004]

I would guess if TSProf was watching this video they would be embarrassed on how their sharpener was used.

[@CedricAda]

and yet they keep sending them to me! They should send one to robertbutler8004, the true master of the blade

[@toejamr1]

14:59 wut? All you need to do to make the cadet a murder weapon is leave a knife strapped in its jaws. Amateur 🙄

[@Feierabend666]

I personally would not buy a TSProf sharpener, because of Russia invasion of Ukraine. There are other brand of sharpeners that can be bought without supporting the Russian war effort, and are also very good when evaluated on technical merit, like Hapstone or Kazak.

[@pandamacska]

If I followed this way of thinking, I would never buy any product made in the USA again, because your leaders are guaranteed a**holes. :)

[@БојанПавловић-е3й]

Do you recommend me to dump my wife (shes from Italy) because Italy is one of the countries who bombed Serbia?

[@Trolldaddy5]

Every country in the world has and still are doing what Russia is doing. Especially USA. Ukraine used to belong to Russia. If anything, don't buy it bc you would be supporting communism, but bc of Ukraine is just stupid. And your 300 dollars isn't gonna make a difference anyhow.

[@Feierabend666]

@@БојанПавловић-е3й The analogy does not hold. But even then, you would be free to indirectly help a country while it is invading a peaceful neighbor. I prefer not to.

[@БојанПавловић-е3й]

@@Feierabend666 Im gonna buy quality product no matter from where is coming from because there is no such a thing as collective crime

[@picklewiickle.1583]

mine cost 40 and works better