Thunder Tiger EB4 S2 vs EB4 S3 running.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

That would be awesome please keeping the old skool rolling against modern tackle go for it awesome captain sound as a pound😁😎👍

[@x5-acousticguitarstuff.2]

I bought an EB4 S3 Buggy in PERFECT Condition the other day "Never Used" with Radio Gear for $40.00 Au. It looks amazing in brand new condition. The Original Owner did not know anythng about the Car or how to use it.

[@wernercraffert8746]

I have the same car and I love it I did a few upgrades to it to make it little bit faster but man I love it

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

PD9325 part number for big bore shocks captain🤩👍😎

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Sounds mega captain. So 2 speed transmission conversion using 3 s3 diffs in a s2 chassis omg captain😲😳

[@crazyeyes744]

Yes but dont use S3 drive shafts, they are smaller and weaker than the S2 so use the ones from the S2😉

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

I must have a couple of rare ones then captain has the forward cab body as well. Mmmm interesting will keep in touch captain thanks for all your help hope you can do some more to your s2 and vids also please stripping diffs maybe thanks captain👍☝😎

[@crazyeyes744]

No problem at all😉

[@brandenbreen2667]

I love the thunder tiger make I had s2.5 version but the only flaw was the pullstart that kept breaking which was very frustrating

[@crazyeyes744]

Yeah they are great cars, very durable and strong engines. Pull starts do tend to vary in how long they last but usually if you are having lots snap regular its due to the engine running much too rich and soaking the pull start string in fuel. You may have just been unlucky but usually thats the cause😉

[@brandenbreen2667]

@@crazyeyes744 yeah they are great cars but that’s the only make that gave me pullstart issues unfortunately I now own a traxxas and hobao and they are great brands as well

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Awesome 👌 if you had 2 could you put a more spicey motor in them like a picco or novarossi we out being silly would the transmission be okey or even say a rtr kit with a kyosko ke25 motor in the eb4 anno only asking please coz lovè my eb4s pleaseeeee only asking🙏❤👍😎

[@crazyeyes744]

You could fit pretty much any 1/8 nitro engine but you would need to bear in mind that in the EB4 S2 its a .21 and in the S3 is a .28 and trust me the standard Thundertiger .28 engine is plenty powerfull enough so if you were to start fitting anything much bigger than a .28 i think it would be too powerfull and uncontrolable but who knows for sure untill its tried. As for the drive train coping, yes i think it could cope especially the S2 as everything is metal gears and the driveshafts on the S2 are very thick and strong.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Some have the 21engine and some have the 28.with the shocks and forward cab body? Big bore shocks Last ones before the s3

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Awesome so in terms of parts thats needed to keep in the old box just in case ?what do you suggest please parts that i really have to be aware of having? Pull starfs. Need the captains opion please. btw you vids are awesome love these cars

[@crazyeyes744]

If you have one and want to keep it running for a long time then you should only need basic parts. Pull starts will never last for ever so allways keep spares of those. Any rubber gaskets, fuel pipes, glow plugs and shock oil. Most other parts are only needed if they break from damage or very hard use.😉. Thanks😁

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Will do thanks captain so you think this is a awesome combination for a modern eb4 s2? And have you any more ideas on improving yours anymore??

[@crazyeyes744]

Will keep you posted. Might do a vid soon on this subject😉

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Awesome Fella the problem i have is i love my eb4s should i say but i feel as tho they will struggle in the sense of competing at modern level that hurts me to say. And to spend the money on one to take it to the maximum level would cost a lot in excess of 500? unfortunately. but i like yourself am old skool .but cant part with them like yourself ?want to buy a modern 1/8th like kyosho but the prices are frightening and this would need more doing? but i want to compete at club level in the mix .please could you give us some help or advice captain coz i love my eb4s i cant part with them. Sorry for all the questions all the time🙏😪

[@crazyeyes744]

When you say you want to compete do you mean you are going to race them at clubs? Or do you just want somthing faster or better? There are plenty of Nitro buggys out there that are very good but i think you may struggle to find anything in 1/8 scale that is better than an EB4 but for the same kind of money. Most 1/8 buggies can be modified to how you want them.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Awesome captain loving it topman thanks☝❤😁😎👍

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

They did big bore on the 2.5 same colour as chassis they any good captain 👍

[@crazyeyes744]

So the shocks and springs on the S2-pro and the S2.5 are the same. The springs will be blue and the shocks will be a gold-ish type colour and made from alloy. They are great yes and strong. The only thing i would recomend and this is only if you are going to be using your EB4 purely on road is that you put a thicker shock oil in. That way the suspension will be stiffer for better on road handling😉

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Thats why your the chief of eb4s😁☝🤓 how come the 2.5 has big bore shocks as opposed to the ally ones you use question is which is better🙏👍😎

[@crazyeyes744]

My EB4 S2 is actually the S2.5 anyway so it has the better alloy shocks anyway. The suspension on the S3 is good aswell. The very early S2 EB4's were the weakest shocks. The best ones are on the S2.5 and S3

[@JohnCardwell-cb9jy]

Great video I've just got a thunder tiger eb4 s3 with no engine what do you think would be the best replacement nitro engine the force 28 or the lrp 28 or the Dynamite big red 28

[@crazyeyes744]

Force is going to be the most simular to standard Thundertiger so i would go for that but its up to personal choice. Depends if you want it to be standard spec etc.

[@brettguy8651]

There both nice thunder tiger eb buggies motors sound good 👍

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Good to know. Just confused with the 2.5 big bore shocks on mine are they good or bad? They are same colour as the chassis maybe coz going into the s3 model they tried these check em out captain 👍😎

[@crazyeyes744]

You got any pics? Maybe i can identify them?

[@keveshannaidoo5670]

Great video. Those cars run really well. What are the carb settings?

[@crazyeyes744]

Hi, thanks. Im trying to make videos a bit better quality, i will get better. If you need help setting up a carb check out my other video "how to tune a thunder tiger eb4 s2" should help you get a good base line on most nitro cars😉

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Its my prized possession as well captain. And mine is the s2.5. What would the twin gear set up be out of a s3? I want to build a s2.5 into something that can with stand modern rallycross 1/8th tracks plus be just as durable and nimple as a modern kyosho tki4 using the same 21motors. To basically have a very rare modern eb4 thats strong and it will happily mix with the modernised technology

[@crazyeyes744]

Hmmm ok interesting. What about using the S2.5 chassis and drive gear but with the .28 engine running with a two speed gearbox and the shocks from the S3. The rest would be up to you but thats a good start i think🤔.

[@brettguy8651]

That's a nice thunder tiger eb sounds good 👍

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

What is the difference between the s2. And the s2 pro. And the s2.5 pro. If you could shed some light??

[@crazyeyes744]

Well the S2 has been about for a long time. The 1st version still had a .21 engine but was a much older style and the chassis was not as well thought out but it was still a great car. The S2 pro had the newer updated version of the .21 with the red cylinder head and the blue shocks with alloy housing and an enclosed battery tray along with a few other bits. The S2.5 is the last of the run before the S3 came out and is the best one. It had lots of upgrades including twin brake discs and stronger components and a better radio gear. I have probably missed a few things but thats the main stuff.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Only suggestion to a pic is google eb4 s2.5 pro. Look on images there are some on there with same shocks same colour as chassis or near as dam it captain👍😎

[@crazyeyes744]

I had a look at the images on google. From what i can see. The last run of the S2 seems to have been fitted with the S3 shocks but still has the S2 chassis. Im not 100% sure if the engine is still .21 on that model as if they used the S3 shocks they might well of fitted the .28 engine as it is fitted in the S3. I only own an EB4 S2.5 and an EB4 S3 so i havent had one with parts from both.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

No worries captain need some more brett specials eb4 time please modernise these street beast please🙏🙏🙏🙏👍😎

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Mmmmm interesting captain what would the 2 speed transmission be out of the s3???

[@crazyeyes744]

The S3 is only a single speed still same as the S2 but there is a kit you can buy online to convirt either car to a two speed. I belive its fairy simple to do if you have good knowlege of working on nitro cars so you should be fine😉

[@lindam8927]

Hi there just seeing if ya can't. Lost my transmitter for buggy. Not sure what transmitter to bye an how to bond it back to buggy any help would be much appreciated.

[@crazyeyes744]

@@lindam8927 Dose your car have an old style antena that came out of the radio handset or is yours digital? Either way your easyest is to buy a new receiver for the car and a new handset to bond with it. Only real difference is if its old it will be crystals and if its new type it will be digital.😉

[@lindam8927]

Yes it's eb4 some as your one round 2004. So I'll bye new transmitter that comes with receiver should be fine I hope thanks again

[@crazyeyes744]

@@lindam8927 no worries mate. Good luck.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Am back. Rtr version. And the pro version whats the difference?

[@crazyeyes744]

I dont know that, i have only ever had the RTR EB4's so i ohnestly wouldnt know.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Do you own any modern 1/8th buggies captain??

[@crazyeyes744]

No i only have older nitro cars. I like the older stuff mostly. I did used to own an old Traxxas Nitro 4tec. That thing was megga fast!!

[@basspro88hawkins63]

Where can I get that filter and alloy wheels

[@crazyeyes744]

The filter is a breather filter for a real car engine but depending on size of your carb you will need the correct inlet pipe size but the filter you can get from most places like halfords or ebay. Ebay will be cheaper. Remember if you buy the silver mesh filter you will need to put the foam part of your standard filter inside it.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

So the 3 diffs in the s3 are helical diffs??

[@crazyeyes744]

The diffs are about the same as the S2 but the drive shafts are bigger and much stronger.

[@crazyeyes744]

I mean the drive shafts in the S2 are bigger and stronger😉

[@richardgonzalez7567]

A nice vid Mr cheers. You could really do with having a camera person to film you. I'll be doing some vids soon of my eb4s2. Check out nitro mike, he has some wicked vids on his channel. From Holland. 🙋🏽‍♂️

[@crazyeyes744]

Im going to start doing a few more videos and i want to be more professional so i will be investing in a stand and proper mic soon. Thanks.

[@richardgonzalez7567]

@@crazyeyes744 Look forward to seeing them Mr 😁👍🏽

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

So the s3 is the best model??

[@crazyeyes744]

Its mostly down to personal choice but i would say the S2.5 is the best model of EB4 but the S3 is very good too but there are areas on it that are not as good as the S2 mainly things like drive shaft size/strength. The perfect EB4 would be an S2.5 fitted with the .28 engine from the S3 in my opinion😉

[@rickgrafter]

these are the fastest ever stock nitro buggys

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Would you ever sell your eb4 s2 mate??

[@crazyeyes744]

Nah, i have had it from new and tuned it specially to how it is now. I like it a lot.😁😁

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

What you reckon you spent to get it to the level its at captain? If you dont mind me asking👍

[@crazyeyes744]

@@leonrawautomotivedetails5785 Well the wheels are genuine alloys and they were about £60, The american style cylinder head was about £50, its fully ball raced costing about £30, the exhaust is from CPV racing costing £40, the air filter was £15, various other mods probs another 30 or 40ish so not a shocking amount really.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Cool would and could it enter at club level with the modern tackle and how you feel were it would be in terms of durability etc?

[@crazyeyes744]

@@leonrawautomotivedetails5785 No idea, i never really thought about it. I know its every bit as good as any other modern nitro car. In terms of build quality and durability its top notch. I mean the engine is origional and still runs like new. Everything on it works perfect and has not let me down at all apart from items that wear out normally anyway like pull starts its very reliable.

[@MatthewPlaysFN]

To start my electric car i flick a switch

[@crazyeyes744]

I have electric aswell, yes much more simple but if you like engines and messing about with stuff then nitro is much more fun. Its all down to what your into. I like both but for me nitro is more exiting.😉

[@stanislawklasek7045]

pro 28. for my ears starving on low and to rich on high. I have those engines in mta4 and rta4. try better tune s3 and then compare plus add to s2 plastic wheels then you will fell spins.

[@leonrawautomotivedetails5785]

Yeh race them at a club

[@crazyeyes744]

Ah right. That makes sence now then. Well i used to race my EB4.S2.5 years and years ago at a local rc track but after that i turned it into my most prized rc car and now just use for fun and making the odd video for youtube. I think in a buggy class race you should still be able to keep up with modern stuff with only a few mods, mainly to the gearing like adding a twin gear to it so you get better acceleration and top end speed. Other than that the rest of the mods should be easy and fairy cheap to do. You would be better using a newer EB4 though, somthing like the S2.5 or the S3😉