Creality CR-Scan Lizard Review - does it reach 0.05mm?

I review the brand new CR-Scan Lizard 3D Scanner from Creality...
I scan various parts and then scientifically compare the outputs....
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[@emillukic2695]

Man I found this video and channel today. Finding out that you are using your skills and knowledge in the exact same way I am trying to do is just sooo inspiring! I have probably watched at 10 of your videos today and sadly I have probably come up with atleast 10 more projects that I want to do.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers buddy! I am glad I am not the only crazy person trying to do this! Welcome to the party 👍

[@Moto_Medics]

Same here it’s awesome how similar our goals appear to be.

[@ruftime]

Thank you! Very impressive results. Work like this really makes me appreciate my new SpaceMouse.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

The KickStarter is now LIVE! If you want to pledge to it then please consider using this link to help support the channel! 👍 creality-cr-scan-lizard.kckb.st/f6f711d9

[@S09Engineering]

Crap! I just pledged, but I didn't know about your link. Sorry.

[@IdealGrain]

I’ll be watching this in full later today. Just popping in to say that I love the premise of your channel. I’m a maker, former makerspace director and founder, and an absolute car nerd, so this is all right up my alley.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hello! Glad you like it! I made it because it’s a channel I’d like to watch and it’s what I do.. I am just glad there are so many people out there interested in the same thing! 👍

[@jdmimportlogistics]

Brilliant mate! - great lighting, smooth non- obnoxious cadence in presentation and your computer screen is clear so we can follow the commands on our T.V. at home- New subscriber!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

If you are interesting in buying a Cr-Scan Lizard, then please consider helping out the channel and using the affiliate links on the description page… thanks!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Kick Starter early bird price released - $210 for the first 300pieces!!!! 🤑💵💵🤑 Check out the KickStarter here bit.ly/3GnmJ1l And if you want to buy consider supporting the channel and checking back here for an affiliate link soon!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Looks like it’ll be at 9am EST (2pm GMT I think!). I haven’t had my link yet, should be getting it as soon as it goes live… (but don’t wait for my link if it means missing out on the 65% off!)

[@kyleeaton1709]

I just backed this on KS and made sure to use your link, bro! Thanks for the review!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud! Hope you have fun with it! Thanks for supporting the channel 👍

[@kylelammie4621]

Thank you thank you thank you! This is the exact video I wished someone would do for the Revopoint scanner.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Funny that… I happen to know someone with a Pop and is on the Pop2 KS…. 🤔

[@luisces]

I received mine yesterday, this is already a much better tutorial than the official CR one. Thanks!

[@mariosnikolaou5212]

Really informative video. I hope it helps you with the itb's as the itb's made me come to your channel.

[@qpidrc9454]

Thank you very much for this in-depth review!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Thanks very much for watching! 👍

[@vrfxrealtime]

Thanks for sharing this! I learned a lot of things how to handle it myself here :)

[@gixrman]

Thanks for doing this video. I’ve been wanting a scanner and can’t justify a Creaform or Einscan prices at a hobbyist level for accurate scanning. This looks to get you close enough to adjust in fusion for an accurate representation.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

The whole thing is a learning curve and the modelling with mesh is a whole other one, but once learned this will definitely be useful!

[@grumblewoof4721]

Looks interesting and i already own two Creality 3D printers and not disappointed in their build quality and performance so I would expect similar for this device. Creality have released two different scanners to date but I have not been wowed by the performance and price of these. I own a Revopop Pop and expecting my Pop II (0.1mm resolution) at end of the month so I would be interested to see a side by side comparison of this new Creality Lizard with the Pop II.

[@raymondhordies4807]

Thank you very much for this clear video!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

My pleasure!

[@dionvanstrydonck8552]

Man, seeing one of those LEMO-connectors (the one on the data cable) in the wild on an actual product after having soldered a bunch in the past feels so weird. Like, I know they're actually used a lot because they're super high quality, but it just feels so weird! Anyway, this scanner looks really really cool!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Thanks for letting me know the name of the connector… it does have a quality “click” on it!

[@PeterTremonti]

I love the videos. Keep it up!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers Peter!

[@KansaiRiderJapan]

Love your content my guy 👌

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud! Plenty more coming 👍

[@streetcarmedia]

Finally someone that uses 3d printer for car parts subscribed

[@Leafyfpv]

Thanks for sharing this!

[@mrclarkey]

I used 'Openscan' with a Bluetooth camera shutter paired with a Pixel 4 XL camera phone to scan a tow eye cover for a old Citroen. For a DIY photogrammetry setup it worked very well indeed.

[@2thlesswithta2s2]

Hi there. Great review on the CR Scan Lizard scanner. I’m watching the low-cost scanner tech, but I’m not ready to pull the trigger yet. Yes the precision is there, but the scanned surfaces are still pretty wonky. Anyway, I have some Fusion 360 mesh pointers for you. I’m not an expert, but I’ve been getting a lot of experience over the last 6 months or so. First, instead of using the INSERT tool on the right side of the SOLID toolbar, switch to the MESH tool tab & use the INSERT MESH tool on the far left of the toolbar. You will gain a lot more control of the mesh parameters, including units used to import. Then you can change those parameters later by clicking the operation in the timeline. Second, you can create a sketch element where the mesh body intersects a plane, much like you would with PROJECT INTERSECT on a solid body. To do this, place a construction plane where you want the intersection sketch to be. Then while still in the MESH tool tab, select the CREATE MESH SECTION SKETCH tool (3rd from left). Then you can do measurements directly on the intersection sketch, or you can add sketch elements to mate with the mesh-body. Third, you can go back to the SOLID toolbar & create solid bodies from the intersection sketch you just created. I you’re adding volume features to the model, it may be enough to leave them as solid bodies. But if you want to do subtractive or cut operations, you will need to convert them to mesh bodies first. To do that, back in the MESH toolbar, select the TESSELLATE tool (second from left). Be careful to select the REFINEMENT level that gives you enough detail without overwhelming your processor. Fourth, MESH COMBINE works much the same as SOLID COMBINE, with ability to Join, Intersect, Cut, or Merge mesh bodies. MESH PLANE CUT is almost like SOLID SPLIT BODY, except that it only works on a plane. Happy meshing!

[@LXGspec]

Great showcase, I'm wondering what's the biggest size object it can scan if pushing it? I'd be very interested in scanning entire fenders to modify them in 3D, do you reckon it can handle it?

[@TheIamgibbo]

I could certainly make use of one of those. Would be interesting to do things like scanning a bumper to be able to custom design and print vents or grilles

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Most mechanical pieces there is likely an easier way, but for trim pieces it’s likely essential…. Gonna keep playing and let you guys know! 👍

[@TheIamgibbo]

@@MakingforMotorsport sweet. Doing those complex curves is certainly not easy. Would take a lot of test prints to get right without the scanner. But it's good to see new 3d scanners at what will hopefully be a lower price point. Still outside my budget, but they're getting closer!

[@Perceivedshift]

I think it would be easier and cheaper to cover the bumper with tape/plastic, mark it up to add texture, then use a camera to capture at all angles. Import images into meshroom...and now you have a 3D model you can clean up and use.

[@TheIamgibbo]

@@Perceivedshift I guess that makes it a bit cheaper to do. Haven't tried photogrammetry but it might be worth giving it a go

[@BMWE30RESTORATION]

very interesting content, thanks

[@Bravolvi]

Very good video and results

[@tribaldesigns]

Another great video as always. I should be recieving my Revopoint POP 2 shortly which is a similar beastie. I'm excited to see what can be done with these.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Let me know how the Pop2 goes, I haven’t played with one yet…. Hopefully the KS starts delivering soon.. 👍

[@thomashenderson3901]

@Gary Chenery I am looking forward to a back to back test of these two. Nearly went for the POP2 kick starter and sorry I didn't, but maybe the creality is the way to go?

[@tribaldesigns]

@@thomashenderson3901 I think the POP 2 might have it on portability, I've no experience with scanners so just going on the specs. At these prices it's going to be win win no matter what product.

[@thomashenderson3901]

@@tribaldesigns You could well be right.

[@donutreligion2979]

And I'll see my lizard come from California to Florida in a few days. It has been an exciting journey.

[@NightwingReturns]

Did it make it yet?

[@dannyaustin84]

That looks like a right faff! Thanks for the video.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

😂 isn’t everything? To be fair, I does get fairly slick after a while but I’ve not even touched the 3D modelling with it yet… and I reckon that’ll take even longer! 😂

[@sphericalsphere]

This is awesome. Just supported the campaign. No way in hell I ain't gonna get 300€ of value out of this. Hell of a deal. Gonna make myself some custom aero parts and stuff that fits on my motorcyle

[@nazirzh]

can you do more test with bigger objects like the object in the end? Especially when you align multiple scans together over big distances the accuracy will drop significantly and that’s where most cheaper scanners come to their limits!

[@gamerpaddy]

just align and mesh them in cloudcompare

[@jannes351]

That handheld scan actually looks very competent! I'd imagine a statue or big outdoors object could look quite decent :)

[@ryansmithza]

Thats very cool! For scanning objects that aren't on the turn table maybe a rail that holds the scanner steady while it moves from side to side could help. I'm just guessing and wondering 🤷‍♂️

[@Twentse3DExperience]

Super nice good explanation

[@gafrers]

Very interesting for sure

[@joelstolarski2244]

Excited about it. KS pledged. Scan to F360, going to be fun.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

It’s a great tool to have! If you used my link to pledge, thanks for the support! 👍

[@JulianMakes]

Have you tried a 3d mouse? It was a game changer for me. I got the little 3dconexion mini. It’s amazing. Also how does this scanner compare to a revopoint pop 2? Thanks!

Wow wow wow! Leave it up to Creality to mainstream what was once exclusive and expensive, bringing down to a consumer level! 👍👏👏👏👏 Truly magnificent and I absolutely plan to buy! I have a LOT of projects that can benefit from an accurate point cloud especially since I'm buying a house that needs some invested elbow grease. But most importantly, I'd be getting for my cars, a 1974 Datsun 260 with a lot of parts that can't be found anymore or are so astronomically high in price it's bullox. Also have a 2015 Mustang that I'd like to try making various aero bits for to help improve my track times (these cars make a lot of swirling eddies in rear and underneath)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I am impressed with it, and I think a lot of people who are disappointed on here are likely expecting more from consumer scanners. As for a whole room I dont think this is the toy, the iPhone LIDAR seems good for that, but aero pieces to pick up panels… yeah, I reckon it’s gonna help you out! 👍

@@MakingforMotorsport not whole room stuff but just small irreplaceable bits. Like my door handles; they're original to the house and I quit like them but they're worn out and their inner workings have geometry that will be hard for me to replicate freehanded. So I can scan them, print them then cast them in aluminum or iron so I can preserve the look and authenticity as much as possible

[@_coffeeandcigars]

Would love to see how an enginebay comes out! I used Photogrammetry so far for my diy scans but never a real scanner :)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I will try it out… just need a better laptop! 😂

[@djordjeblaga7815]

For Photogrammetry I always just take a video at 30fps and split it into single frames afterwards. Makes for quick and intuitive scanning with pretty good results ;)

[@MrThechrisstuff]

This isn't bad at all for home gamer setup. I run a few metrology grade 3D scanners at work, obviously, they smoke this system but the price has me curious.

[@daanyl]

@@djordjeblaga7815 i will try that ! Thanks

[@fsouzajr]

@@MakingforMotorsport forget laptos, as they are too thermally and power restricted. much better to do this on a proper desktop.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Great video! Really impressive scanner!!! I am shocked by the accuracy! If you need any help learning the mesh tools in Fusion 360 I would be happy to lend a hand. With the flange on your idle air valve you can create a mesh section sketch, and then edit that sketch and then use "Fit curves to mesh section". Fusion will allow you to place circles, lines and splines based on the mesh section sketch. It does a pretty good job of averaging the mesh section to place a circle. I did a BMW motor mount off a pretty bad scan and it was really close!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud, I am gonna need to work on that part of my Fusion game, I started with 2D CAD so parametric 3D comes easy… Just checked your channel and looks very useful! The kinematic stuff is very nice! Sub’d 👍

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

@@MakingforMotorsport Thank You!!

[@airsoftargonaut3738]

What would be good to line it up when taking 2 scans is if you could put 2 dots on the model then use them to line the model or let the program align it?

[@dge4560]

Great vids. Would like to see how good it will be on skin. A facial scan maybe.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Any recommendations for turning the scan into a usable solid model that can be edited in autodesk or solidworks? Mesh files are terrible to work with.

[@batman_uwu]

In my workplace, i use Geomagic Design X. It is pretty good for reverse engineering and all the history tree can be carried to solidworks. It handles mesh well. But it is not an automatic process. You kinda have to make it from scratch but the software is helping with a lot tools. Its pretty expensive tho.

[@sugarbooty]

I think the best way would be to make a scan, put it into CAD, and make a model following the scan. Time intensive but much less so than having to do it without the mesh

[@ianhaylock7409]

Would be nice to see you have a go at photogrammetry to see what sort of results you get with a large object. I reckon it would be better than with this scanner.

[@pogle63]

With the rise of 3d printing and the great results you can get from a pimped up Ender 3d which I use, I think to be able to use a decent affordable 3d scanner to create files to print is brilliant. So far 3d scanners have been not very good and very expensive, since this is a CREALITY product and I really love my printer I am going to give this a punt on kickstarter - I vowed never again to back a tech product on Kick Starter as I have been ripped off too many times but this being Creality I am going to give them benefit of the doubt to deliver - Great video many thanks - I have backed it.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I am consistently impressed with the results from this, quicker and more accurate than by hand and although I have got by without one, but now I have I am constantly thinking or things to do with it. I am confident you’ll enjoy it, and if you used my link, thanks very much!

[@joelsanitago4126]

I acquired a CR Lizard scanner. But the scanned parts are not within the precision range of .002 ". which indicates the product .... They have variation of dimensions to .025"  Thank you for any information that might guide me to find a solution

[@JJFX-]

Great video! Love to see people still rocking the Intel X58 platform. FYI if you are're still running stock, you should really look into overclocking that old 6 core Xeon. It's fairly straightforward to push all 12 threads to at least ~4.0 GHz or so without much risk and it'll feel like a new computer. I have a W3670 and a couple of other Xeons from that era that have been OC'd for years and they're still going strong. Those old Intel platforms are great.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Nice!!! This has come at just the right time mate, just swapped up the laptop (for obvious reasons) and being able to level up the desktop is perfect! Now to just work out how the hell to do it! 😂😂

[@JJFX-]

@@MakingforMotorsport Well if you can tell me your mothboard model I can let you know if it's worth trying and point you in the right direction. As long as you don't have some OEM workstation board, the BIOS options in these old platforms are fairly straightforward and there's a wealth of info out there for them.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@@JJFX- haha! That’s exactly with I have I think! I’ll have a look tonight 😂🤦‍♂️

[@mekilljoydammit]

Having messed with older homegamer setups, and then work's Zeiss scanner, the finding match points and then the software figuring it out is huge to me. Would love perspective on how it does with bigger areas - I'd love to be able to do engine bays, car exteriors, etc.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Engine bay is on the list… and my mini’s bay is a complicated one.

[@mekilljoydammit]

@@MakingforMotorsport Good proof of concept then. I'm on the fence on trying to get in on the early order next week.

[@jt16omes]

This seems very good, depending on the price I might pick one up.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

As time goes on I reckon it’s the kind thing everyone will have as they get cheaper… the Kickstarter price is revealed on the 10th

[@efrenjimenezcruz]

Thanks for the vid! Iv recently got into 3D scanning. I wanna get into wide body parts but so far have had to use my 360 Kinect which has worked but hopefully I can get that $210 price! Do you know what day it goes out?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

TODAY!!! Thursday 10th 9am EST! Go go go! 👍

[@demofilm]

i wonder.. when you show the model moving in the creality software, the model disapeared every time you tow it around. is this always? or is this due to lack of pc power? i can imagine this could be usefull to create parts for my RC cars.

[@GeoDelGonzo]

2 thou tolerance, that's good! This seems pretty regal.

[@ze_german2921]

Are Laser Scanners getting Better and Cheaper? Could a small scanner like this scan an Engine Compartment?

[@Deathcraftr]

How large of an object can you scan at a time with this without having to stitch sections together? Thinking of scanning the chassis of a truck specifically. Thanks in advance!

[@REDLINEBECKONZ]

Good stuff budd.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers! Back to the brum brum stuff now!

[@wastedblues2]

Nice! Years ago there was a race car builder on a forum who scanned a proven suspension setup and recreated it for his own car, needless to say he won a race competition outright.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

“Reverse engineering” is absolutely the best way of saying copying ever invented! 😂

[@OkammakO]

And that person's name was Racing Point ;)

[@DiThi]

"Slam mode" means how it merges multiple frames into one single cloud. Texture is probably more accurate if there's enough non-reflective detail.

[@jt16omes]

Could you try the manifold scan again with the dry shampoo and upload both scans for comparison, ideally the unprocessed point clouds. I am considering getting one of these to help me with my cad projects, since I don’t have a budget for one of the big boy scanners and they usually don’t support mac os.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hi there, if you send an email to the address on my channel page I can try to send you a point cloud for you to sample…

[@ajhartmanaero]

I want a scanner so bad. Thanks for the insight into this setup. Edit: How much better is this than the current one available, the CR Scan-01?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hay man, at the moment I have no idea how this compares but it seems good. I hope to get hands on with other scanners soon, but legend has it the CR01 is the best for panels (therefore aero stuff) but this might do that too…. A few weeks and hopefully I will have more answers for you 👍

[@ajhartmanaero]

@@MakingforMotorsport yeah I’m curious what you find out. This video sent me down a rabbit hole of inexpensive scanner videos last night as well as I finally figured out how to work with and modify stl files in OnShape. I kinda like the Pop2 at the moment as it seems more portable so I could just scan a section of someone’s car right at the track.

[@mikemikeyee]

So good

[@falexyy]

Hola has echo pruebas con objetos de mayor tamaño? , estoy realizando el escaneo de un premolde de 200 mm de longitud y el escaneo en la longitud es mas corto 4 mm, que puede ser?

[@kobothehobo1]

As someone with an extremely uncommon car (R30 Skyline wagon), especially here in the States, I jumped on this the second I saw the kickstarter. So many parts don't exist anymore, and there's next to zero aftermarket support, so having this around, and a 3D printer, is going to save me a heck of a lot of headaches. I've also been trying to design a bolt-on IRS replacement for the solid axle and this is going to be a gamechanger for that as well.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Love the old R30! Working on a video now how to go from scanned stl to a full parameterised model… You may find it useful 👍😂👌

[@mrnlce7939]

Any idea on how much it's going to cost? Have you tried photogrammetry? Very interesting product and review. Great video. Keep up the good work.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hi there, the first 300 units on the Kick Starter are $210, a 50% discount apparently… this goes live today at 9am EST. If you are thinking about buying please consider to check back here and use my affiliate link to help support the channel.

[@hi-side29]

Are they available now and if so where so I got to get one.

[@zbigniewwielgus1249]

How about scanning small black parts from cars? Did you try that? Is that good, or bad for this?

[@matbroomfield]

I'd like to have seen a 3d print to see if that noisy surface comes out at print scale

[@ducomaritiem7160]

A bit of babypowder on the model gives nice scan results...

[@KobraVR]

14:00 "The feet look..a little messy.."

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I am the master of understatement 😂👍

[@802Garage]

This is super cool! I have next to no use for this right this second, but I'd still love to have one. I do actually have one major project this would help a lot with. Plus lots of smaller items it could help with in the future. If the price is say $500-$1000 I could definitely see picking one up in the next few years, once I actually get a 3D printer and have some more funds. Really good overview. I mean no offense, but even your desktop is far from cutting edge, so most computers should be able to handle this. You really should upgrade when you can. It will make your modeling experience much more pleasant!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

How dare you tell me that my £150 from eBay, 10year old computer with its £40 Facebook marketplace graphic card isn’t up to date!!! It’s got an SSD!!! 😂😂😂

[@802Garage]

@@MakingforMotorsport Hahaha I bet that SSD made it feel like a whole new PC! That said, yeah, still may be time for an update when funds permit. You can keep your current GPU. ;)

[@damustermann]

1K puts you in the reach of an Einscan SE, and that is a lot more capable than this Creality Kinect knock-off. I guess the CR-Scan Lizard should be in the price-range of $199 - $399

[@802Garage]

@@damustermann That's fair. I would def do a ton of research before purchasing any system anyways. Thanks for the info.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I mean, let’s not pretend that the Einscan SE is a perfect solution, and even the scans I have seen with that aren’t perfect even in the perfect low light, correctly sized object, it’d be useless for 90% of what a car guy may use a scanner for (mainly handheld). Now this may not be perfect but it comes enough bases to be useful… I think unless you are dropping some serious cash for a full on pro level tool, the usage case will be narrow or the performance will be less than metrology….

[@ElGoogKO]

Hello, I have a curiosity, if you haven't tried before. If you have access to professional 3d scanners could you please use to compare the results of this creality to one of those?! Lets say pick a car part, like an engine cover of sorts, or the steering wheel (the modern cars have intricate design steering wheel centre area, so i think it would be great. And just show us a comparison of the object they output. I am really curious how the fine details and ridges and creases look in the final object Thank you

[@MakingforMotorsport]

All KS pledgers :- I am sorry but I have no more hard information than you received in the email from KS. The FB group seems to have the most up to info, I can’t post a link here but you know how to find it 👍

[@tommyhudson9858]

Once again backers get scammed by kick starter.

[@DMalenfant1]

I don't have a FB. Maybe Elon can buy them up too.

[@sixteenornumber]

I know it's not your fault, but it would be a nice gesture to post a short video addressing the issue.

[@pitanpainter2140]

Received my KS pledge earlier this week, so they should be coming through. Software documentation is very basic: this video is the first I've seen, and shows better how to use the S/W than Creality's leaflet.

[@jonwebb9261]

This is really impressive! I’ve used £100k laser scanners with £25k a year software and this is not even 10x worse let a loan 100x! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I think the tech is just gonna run and run…. It’s usable now and can do a lot. I can’t wait to get stuck into projects!

[@alvaroaugustomeridio]

When people start throwing these numbers around that means the reviewed product is still Extremely far away from the reach of your average Joe

[@alvaroaugustomeridio]

@Joe if it's the same quality, or near enough it a very good price

[@DingDongDrift]

just ordered mine on kickstarter, i have the revopoint pop scanner as well but it doesn't do flat panels very well. could you do a video of this scanner on something like a hood or a door?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

It’s on the list bud 👍

[@akumakazenoryu]

if you share the scan of the intake manifold i would love you to moon and back

[@knoopx]

i dont get 3d scanners. the output without a proper reversing tool ($$$) is mostly useless regardless how much they cost. am i missing something? If you are going to CAD from scratch over the scanned object is a 3d scanner worth it considering they are quite expensive?

[@Stephane1995]

"proper" scanners are used for metrology

[@donovannewton9507]

Just curious if you ever tried an iPhone 12 Pro Max at all?

[@AndySomogyi]

How does the CR01 compare to the lizard for large scans like engine bays and whole cars?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Whole cars you want a CR01 and it’d work well for an engine bay too but you could piece a bay together with the Lizard…

[@johanholm1745]

Good video I was about person 150 to order on the kickstar 😆 While waiting to get my own camera home, I would love if you did a test on a front fender or a bumper as these are the kind of objects I would scan Thanks for an interesting channel Best Regards Johan Holm Sweden

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Wow, you were in quick! I am debating doing more vids at the moment as I have other projects to get on with but I might do a quick one scanning multiple things…

[@johanholm1745]

@@MakingforMotorsport Would be interesting to see how it handles larger objects with complex shapes I have only found movies where they scan smaller objects your are among the largest objects I have found

[@kostiantynabramov]

Have you already checked handheld mode on mechanical parts or any interior or exteriors of a car?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Next video is being edited right now… I scan a BMW differential👍

[@nickb2179]

for hand held mode, have a look at a tracking rig - like cameras have, take a lot of wobble out of the job! sure you could knock something up like a oooh skateboard

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hmm…. I have just bought a gimble…. 🤔

[@super_slo]

Proper printing made a camera rig that uses gcode and klipper to programmatically control it. Extremely nifty.

[@802Garage]

@@MakingforMotorsport Gimble plus one of those spring loaded lamp fixtures and you're basically Hollywood!

[@zeroswings2]

I got a revopoint pop 2... but I wonder if the creality isn't somehow better/faster...

[@MakingforMotorsport]

There’s not much between them, some differences but nothing huge….

[@MPbdy]

Very curious if this thing can manage engine bay scans. I have a few projects I really want to do like some brackets attaching to complex multi angle mounting surfaces, intake tube design, and maybe even scan an envelope for custom exhaust headers or intake manifold. Keep out zones and mounting surfaces for modeling would be huge!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

It something I am curious about too,and you need about about 200mm in front of the scanner to nicely register a surface. By those numbers you could scan certain areas or features but you would struggle to get a really good scan just through lack of access…

[@MPbdy]

@@MakingforMotorsport ahhh man that’s rough with the clearance needed that makes it hard for engine bays. Do you know of anything a step up in this space? $1000-2000 range, or is the next jump really to a ~$10k scanner?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@@MPbdy they all need a “range” as they are all “optical” in some sense, even high end machines have a minimum and maximum range, and you also need to get different angles the on the subject (like straight on, above angle and below). It’d be very easy with the CR-Scan lizard to scan an engine bay and you’d get great results, as long as the engine wasn’t in it! To work in a confined space you need something which works more like a probe….

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@@MPbdy einscan do some units around the $1k plus range but because they are low end “pro” kit, they are actually far more limited in functionality that the Lizard is from what I have seen… still very good, but “if it won’t fit on the turntable in a dark room” it ain’t scanning…

[@MPbdy]

@@MakingforMotorsport welp you got me with that idea lol I just ordered the kit. My engine is broke so it’s coming out soon. 700+ hp ls7 going in

[@Doogleraia]

I would think the hardest thing to scan to REALLY test it, would be headlight reflectors from older style headlights. So it has to face off against not only a reflective surface, but also how well it takes the critical shapes and geometry needed for that beam-pattern to match up.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

With A LOT of dulling spray, that could work well…

[@Doogleraia]

@@MakingforMotorsport That would be extremely interesting to see if it's possible. Would be huge for restoring older cars with parts that are no longer available!

[@livfenris9051]

i cant seem to undo. i try Ctrl V and it says undo, but the section is still deleted

[@JupiterLXIX]

0:48 but 180mm is HUGE right? I mean realistically the thing should be fine if it was 115mm right? Like I feel like 115 is acceptable

[@kostiantynabramov]

Should I buy this for myself? Is it fit for professional automotive scanning or just at toy for kids?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Depends what you want to do… it’s definitely a practical piece of kit and gives usable results so far. I haven’t tried the POP yet, but I doubt for mechanical pieces there will be a big difference… If you want a big step forward you’ll need to spend big money and get the pro level reserve engineering software…

[@gleshlich]

What do you think of this vs the RevoPoint Pop 2? Eyeing up one of these for doing very similar work to what you do

[@MakingforMotorsport]

The Pop2 looks good, and there has been a recent software update to the Pop which improved it a lot, the Pop2 should be even better…. Which is better? No idea at the moment. I know someone on the KS for the Pop2 so hopefully I can get them side by side

[@gleshlich]

@@MakingforMotorsport Very interested to see the results! How did you even get your hands on a Creality Lizard anyway?

[@billysgeo]

Hmmmm… how about duplicating complex keys?

[@Smokkedandslammed]

I'm trying to think of a solution for my AEM water/meth kit for my 2014 Tremor. It's a regular cab so I really only have behind the passenger seat (they advise against exposing the pump to the elements) so I want to design and print a box for the tank, filter and pump to all fit in. I have an ender 5 xl so I think I could fit the whole ass box, but I think I'll have to print it in a couple pieces. Never designed anything on Fusion though, kind of intimidating!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

An Ender 5 XL and your not getting on Fusion?? Honestly, take the plunge mate, it’s not hard, I have some modelling videos which are step by step and Lars Christensen channel has some great starter stuff… Honestly, download it, set aside a couple of hours and you’ll be wondering what the problem was 👍👍👍💪💪👍

[@Smokkedandslammed]

@@MakingforMotorsport Lol I have the problem of "too many irons in the fire". She's upgraded with the cap tube, the dual filament grippy rollers and the "upgraded" board. So she's ready to go. First couple prints failed due to low voltage on the extruder motor potentiometer and I need a smaller memory card, the 64gb card I bought is apparently too big. I've got in Fusion a couple times to tinker around and was able to make a box with the shell command, just haven't gotten much further lol. Lots of options, just need to figure out the right combo to make some fancy things, and I'll get the hang of it NP 👍👍 I'm pretty sure I've watched your videos on it and have probably seen Lars videos by now also lol but I'll definitely rewatch them 👍👍 Thank you for putting them out btw!!!

[@markh2005]

Ive got a bunch of things a scanner would be good for, but tbh it seemed like a lot of faffing about. Maybe the tech will improve with time. Is there any indication on pricing yet?

[@benjaminford8173]

For my day job I commonly have to use high end scanning equipment (100K plus gear). The top tech does amazing for detail, speed, and ease of use but is currently patent protected. Once those patents expire, I have no doubt hobby grade scanners will quickly become amazing.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

No word on pricing (at least to little old me 😂)… there is faffing, no gonna lie, but I am a newb + doing an explainer, it got slick towards the end… It’s like 3D printing, often a slow start, plenty to learn but it speeds up with practise👍

[@markh2005]

@@MakingforMotorsport Im really tempted, but need it to be economical and be Mac compatable. PS mums shopping trolley needs a turbo! 😉

[@Artificial.Unintelligence]

looks decent; im still skeptical of details on more organic parts.. also a little bummed with you not actually showing what you show in the preview thumbnail - why show that at all if thats not what you scanned and had as a result?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I did scan it, and that was the result, but at 30mins+ the video was too long and the part didn’t really add to the video… but is more eye catching than the other parts…

[@Artificial.Unintelligence]

@@MakingforMotorsport that was the more impressive result as far as I can tell, would have been worth at least a 3min 'i also scanned this, here's the point cloud and final result, -insert example dimension-' 🍻

[@minigpracing3068]

I wonder if it would work better if you put a small LED ring light on the scanner, generally more light is better.

[@joehackenberg30]

I was thinking the same thing. I also wish that it did photogrammetry alongside of it. I think it would be so much better. it my take a lot more time but it would be worth it to me.

[@dantheman1998]

What's the difference between this and a Intel Realsense?

[@Longerofficial]

Friend,I really appreciate your work. We are looking for reviewers, would you like to review Longer's 3D printer & laser engraver?

[@christiansrensen3810]

Great video and product. But if you change the graficcard in your deskrig, you work in fusion360 will be a hole other product to work with..and your scanning software for the lizard would also run much Better... If you buy fx 2060gtx.. you don't need the Rtx for this.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Yeah, my £150 pc and £40 Fb marketplace gpu aren’t the best choice….😂 I have however just bought a new laptop so hopefully….. it’s gonna work abit better!

[@WildebeestLabs]

I'd like to see this attached to a cable rig on large scale objects. Also would help control tracking I'd think

[@Kommentiert_]

Hmmm now i don´t know if the CR-Scan Lizard or the Revopoint Mini is the better option. The CR-Scan Lizard is about 250€ cheaper. The most things i will scan are some engine parts and stuff like your control valve. From the feeling I find the method with the blue light better with the Revopoint. I also learned from some videos that some LED lights interfere negatively with the scanner. It doesn't matter if it's a CR or a Revo, it's still a lot of money and I don't want to buy the wrong one.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Unfortunately, it doesn’t feel like there is a 1 size fits all and at the consumer end of the range each scanner has its ups and downs. The mini is giving great results (I haven’t tried it in person) but for most of my applications it is well over the top and to limited in terms of scan area, the Pop2 seems like another good option and might be the overall better scanner than the lizard, once you factor in the software experience (not played with the Pop2 but that’s my impression), and the CrScan is the best at body panels and larger objects. It’s a big investment but I think either the Lizard or Pop2 is the best, most flexible tool unless your going to be doing regularly large or very small objects…

[@JeepJediMaster]

is it Mac os X compatible or just windows?

[@aperturemichelle]

I love how a rather large company is using pledge to KickStarter for a product they definitely have the resources to develop and sell on there own..

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Yeah… I see your point but I don’t think Creality is using it that way… the product is already developed (I’ve used it) so this seems to be more a method for drumming up interest and leveraging social media rather funding R&D…. And I’d be really disappointed if they try to use the “it’s a pledge not a purchase” to get out of customer support…. That said, I sure some positive cash flow doesn’t hurt…

[@hi-side29]

Are these available now? If so can you add a link. Very interested

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Link in the description to the KickStarter and in the pinned comments… but they won’t ship for a couple of months…