Creality Nebula Smart Kit: Transform your Ender 3 with this simple add on

[@Redo3D]

Destinal is MVP! Without his work I would not be able to advance in my print farm with the new CR-10 SE that also uses the nebula pad, and good on you for calling out Creality directly on their lack of efforts to open source recently even though marketing it like its a priority.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Thanks Redo he’s made it worthwhile for sure I just couldn’t get the disappointment out of my head when I contacted Creailty. Then when the firmware came across on a message it was like we had taken the power back :)

[@destinal_in_reality]

Thanks! Glad it's working out well for you.

[@sandasylum2503]

Would love to see a detailed install onto the nebula pad

[@Impuritan1]

Have you found one yet?

[@sandasylum2503]

@@Impuritan1 I just used it with what software comes on it and it worked perfectly. That with Creality cloud website and I’ve got print over WiFi and live web cam so works well. I did have to upgrade to a different board to work with the nebula but I’m glad I did that as the ender is so much more quiet and prints much nicer

[@Impuritan1]

@@sandasylum2503 you running the Nebula on a standard Ender 3?

[@sandasylum2503]

@@Impuritan1 upgraded to the silent board motherboard. And plugged in the nebula pad with no issues

[@michelledevilliers1623]

@@sandasylum2503 did it not work with the original board? Did you have to upgrade? if so what did you upgrade to? I have ender 3 V3 SE factory standard, and not able to connect the nebula smart kit

[@3DPrintSOS]

That’s for the shoutout Sam. The ability to calibrate the machine in anyway is really the main goal of this. It just makes no sense to lock down calibration.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Its a savage and pointless lockdown too. Still funny that we met on this very topic!

[@trugbilddrachen]

Good news Fedor, Sam got your name spelled right 😂. Thanks Sam for the honesty.

[@Impuritan1]

Subscribed! I’ve got the Sonic Pad on a base Ender 3 that I’ve modded, I have Klipper running on a Quadra running a Kingroon KP3S, so I know the basics. I say that to say this, or ask at least, this pad has Klipper on it but you can’t use it unless you, what I’m guessing, is jail breaking it? And then you can use it to run Klipper on my V3 SE? So Klipper is on it but you can’t use it until you do that? And before I get yelled at, I know the Sonic Pad can control 4 printers but where I’m putting my V3 SE isn’t even on the same floor of my house.

[@wangyao127]

I really want to Know.When the Creality Nebula Smart Kit VERSION IS 1.0.27.How did I get this root version. Because this version is support my ENDER3 s1 PRO . but I REALLY need root version.

[@just4oge]

so, i got a problem, i want to activate thje AI detection and it says no lidar detected, also the img file firmware for nebula pad doesnt work, if i had .26 it goes to .23 back

[@simonandrew6875]

Awesome vid. Very informative. Any plans to make a short tutorial on how to root?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Hey, well you just plug it in update and it’s good to go

[@squirralien1863]

I have a Nebula camera on a sonic pad with an S1 pro, it has a great picture quality and it is a very nice camera but the most I am getting is 4-5 FPS, I can't find any info how to improve that so it is a bit clunky, maybe it is the Sonic pad I don't know, the Sonic pad is awesome. I would l've to find an answer to this 4-5 FPS but many searches have got me nowhere.

[@3DPFactory1]

Good effort as always Sam.

[@WMH-3D-Printshop]

funny that they say it won't be able to be rooted just like on their kl series since the firmware is more or less the same, only the config files have changed. The other thing that happened is that I asked this question on their yt intro on the product a month ago and the answer was that it would be possible, but now I can also see that my return answer is no longer to be found on my youtube and my question has become removed in their comment field on the video from creality. ?????

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Well today I was on a call, i quoted an email saying Feb and I was told it’s not dated. Thing is I said it’s not important now as the community took back control.

[@TripodsGarage]

Wait! I am not a throw away item! Who do I talk to at Creality about this?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Depends on the item, maybe you need... the A team!

[@TripodsGarage]

@@TheRealSamPrentice- People need to keep their Tripod! What happens if my wife sees this video?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

haha that didnt even cross my mind! @@TripodsGarage

[@BuckMeister15]

would this work on the ender 3max?

[@ThreeDcorner]

When im trying to root just says failed nebula running v1.1.0.26 any idea why please ?

[@Impuritan1]

At some point in the updates for the pad it blocked the ability to root it.

[@AT-Legence]

Hi, I did upgrade my ender 3v2 with this pad, but it does not support fillament runn out sensor. Any way to get around this, because the Board has the socket for it. Just creality is to lazy to edit the firmware.

[@demiwilson-uw9hs]

Does this work with ender 3 s1 or do I need to exchange for s1 pro?

[@Eins.1]

Can it control multiple printers like the sonic pad? I have ender 3 s1 pro and ender 3 pro.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Nope not this

[@beatoaviation]

Hey man, first of all, great video! Second: I see that you mounted the AI Lidar thing to your E3V3SE, but then removed it. I'm having the same issue too, it doesnt seem to affect anything to the printing. Did you get that too?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

You mean the camera ??

[@beatoaviation]

@@TheRealSamPrentice The thing you stuck to the nozzle.

[@thatsykes]

@@beatoaviationthat’s the accelerometer, the AI detection is from the camera

[@3DRundown]

Good to see a clip of my boys at Sharefest. Rock on gentlemen! However, I award you a penalty of -1000 made up points, for trusting your firmware upgrade, on the USB Drive that came with the kit. Epic Bravery. May the odds be ever in your favor.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Worked tho didn’t it :) it was just a little slow ;)

[@wangyao127]

It's really help me a lot.Thank you so much.

[@velocistafpv]

Interesting that you needed to root the Nebula. I don't remember that I had to root the Sonic Pad to gain access to Fluidd and tinker around.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

When the sonic pad was launched it didn’t have root access, Creailty has a road map for releasing roots for example the k1 and Ke more recently

[@enmanuelhenriquez975]

The Accelerometer have be add to octoprint and marlinfirmware

[@Mail4aj]

Hi, i have a rpi 3b , please suggest what should I do to get same results

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Ideally installing klipper into the sd I’m sure that @nero will have a video on his channel

[@mattthekingdong]

Can this all be done with the sonic pad as well?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yep

[@petertherrien4169]

I try to load the firmware to my pad and it won’t save. After it reboots it asks if I want to upgrade again w/ the old software number.

[@destinal_in_reality]

That's normal it means it updated. Remove the USB stick when it reboots.

[@petertherrien4169]

I’ll get back to it this weekend. Thank you, appreciate everything your doing

[@petertherrien4169]

@@destinal_in_reality I was able to root the pad. I have fluid and mainsail set up. Just need to figure out the configuration part and I should be good to print. Thanks you

[@annajohnson3600]

Can someone help me? I have a basic Ender-3 3 printer and I have been trying to use the Creality Nebula Smart Kit but it is not working. I did all the steps but my hot plate is not heating up and the x,y,z axes are not moving. The printer, camera and screen are on and making noise. I have connected the printer to my phone and computer but still the thing will not print. Someone please tell me what I am doing wrong. Do I need to buy the leveling kit so I can check that off the list of things it has to check? Do I have to check everything off to start printing? I might need to open my printer to double check that I have a 4.2.7 Motherboard?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Sounds like you didn’t have a connection to the printer, how are you flashing the board

[@GamingPanda5748]

I have this but for some reason while printing it shifts the print over a bit and continues printing where it left off which leave the print looking like it has some of it completely off the model

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Sounds like you have a layer shift which direction does it go in? either way id then check your belts are tight enough, and maybe try looking at your speed settings, mainly around acceleration.

[@GamingPanda5748]

@@TheRealSamPrentice now that issue isn’t happening but the extrusion is all messed up. It’s like the printer is having a brain fart when it prints. Idk is it’s the g code not liking the nebula pad or what. I’ve done al the tests to set it up and it still won’t work good.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@GamingPanda5748 Which Printer is this on?

[@GamingPanda5748]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Ender 3 v3 se

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@GamingPanda5748 Ah okay! Try using the KE settings on the print profile

[@gabrieleporcelli2882]

Hi! I have an Ender S1 Pro. I've just bought the Nebula Kit, which on Creality Website is told as supported but the printer but the connector cable to the touch panel is different. In the stock panel it is a single line of 6 pins, while the Sonic Touch Panel requires a 5+5 pin double line. I see in your video that you just use the stock cable of the printer to connect the Touch Panel. Do you know if using the same cable on the S1 Pro would solve my problem? Of course I have to use another port in the motherboard

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I have the s1 and I believe that’s the same

[@gabrieleporcelli2882]

@@TheRealSamPrentice so which cable should I use? The 10 pin? On the S1 Pro motherboard the 10 pin is for the knob lcd panel, while the touch panel has a 6 pin. Is the nebula panel going to work if I connect it to the 10 pin?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@gabrieleporcelli2882 I don’t have the unit here with me. I’ll have to check in the morning.

[@gabrieleporcelli2882]

@@TheRealSamPrentice thanks, I would appreciate it. I'm a little worried since I thought the kit was ready to use but I need to add something in the end. Moreover also the selection of the Printer in the panel will be different than I've expected since the S1 Pro formally is not supported. And also the firmware I think

[@gabrieleporcelli2882]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Hi! Did you have the chance to check the cable maybe?

[@just4oge]

What screws were you using for the purple bracket for the sensor? ( solved )

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I believe they would’ve been m3 bolts

[@just4oge]

@@TheRealSamPrentice forgot to edit, solved it already, but anywats ty that u tried to help me

[@ΚΩΣΤΑΣΛΑΖΟΣ-υ1μ]

Thanks for the video! Would this work with the ender 3 max (not the neo)? It has the motherboard V4. 2.2 (32 bit)

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I believe so, there are some early boards that it might not but this should be a plug and play item

[@ΚΩΣΤΑΣΛΑΖΟΣ-υ1μ]

Thanks for the reply!

[@jasonwestling4277]

you print 2 parts for the upgrade but I don't see the link for the accelerometer bracket

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

If you pop over to creality.com and look for the nebula pad there’s a download section it’s in there

[@jasonwestling4277]

thank you love you videos!@@TheRealSamPrentice

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@jasonwestling4277 no worries and thank you

[@royeven3484]

@@TheRealSamPrentice hi, i'd love to get your help, i cant find the nebula pad's sensor download section - can you please help direct me to that?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@royeven3484 as in the input shaping sensor ?

[@luisbolanos7729]

Does the camera mount work on the Ender 3 V2?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I would say no

[@koushyk]

what advantages gives klipper on nebula pad?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Well… klipper over marlin for one. Unless I’ve missed understanding the question

[@koushyk]

@@TheRealSamPrentice I’ve just got nebula and I’m thinking to install kliper. Last time I installed kliper I’ve got only decreased quality of print, what are killer features of kliper ?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@koushyk Well the pad is running klipper..

[@koushyk]

@@TheRealSamPrentice i thought Sonic Pad is on klipper

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@koushyk they both are in fact most of crealitys releases will be klipper based from now on

[@andrewdepew3518]

whats the link for the gforce mount?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

That’s on the download section of the creality website

[@HeathFoster1]

Yeah I wondered since the KE is now open and uses the "Nebula pad". But they are different for some reason?? I run this on my Ender 3v2 and I like the size better than running a sonic pad.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yeah I had to admit if you're not in the FOMO game this is a good reason to buy one of these BUT only with it open.

[@destinal_in_reality]

I know, right? The KE's firmware is just a targeted build of the nebula pad firmware. I really don't get what the delay is in coming out with an official updated release of it that enables root too.

[@HeathFoster1]

@@destinal_in_reality yeah I like your image. Been using it for a bit now. Appreciate what you do.

[@802Garage]

This is... Extremely tempting. I mean I already have a Sprite SE extruder and a Voron Afterburner style head for better cooling on my Ender 3 Pro. My main speed limits now are just getting nice looking corners and details. Klipper would kick it up a notch and this is much cheaper than getting another printer. Hmmmmm. Good video!

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Thank you! Yeah I was excited about it and I think you can see that at the start, then it was like a kick in the gut.. The good news is there is still a result.

[@802Garage]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Yeah, after watching your videos I'm now watching vids by Taptic Digital. He was very excited, but then very disappointed. Then he made a follow up video after rooting was available. Seems like it's great for the money once rooted. Companies really need to listen to consumers. Feedback is similar for Flashforge and Qidi Tech that their printers would be extremely competitive if they were more open and able to be rooted.

[@simonsnow7771]

thanks for video would this work with the ender 3 max neo thanks

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yes

[@destinal_in_reality]

Great video, Sam! Not sure why KZbin deleted my original comment, maybe due to me mentioning my u destinal username on reddit. It's probably worth noting that when you install the prerooted firmware it will have a fake version number starting with a 5 but the actual version it installs doesn't start with a 5. It's designed that way so it can install on top of any version, even the same one. It's important to remove the flash drive when the printer reboots and not keep updating over and over. It probably should be made clearer somehow.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Thanks dude !!

[@NinjaBonez]

but i still dont understand - what is the difference between the NEBULA and the SONIC PAD.... ?? i already have a Sonic Pad - since Xmas 2023, for my Ender 3 Max NEO - and love it.... so why should i get a Nebula ? it literally looks like the SAME THING, only on a SMALLER display than the Sonic Pad..... and the fact that the Sonic Pad lets you use a WEB interface that is even bigger.... AND CAN USE YOUR WEBCAM..... so again - whats the point of the NEBULA ?????

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

It’s the same, the sonic pad is better as you can control more printers you don’t need both

[@Impuritan1]

How much caffeine had you consumed when you typed that out?

[@CRIZS_CREATIONS]

Honestly. The SonicPad is still a Superior option to the Nebula pad why?? Well simple, The SonicPad enables a huge amount of added Klipper based features than even fluid or Mainsail can not have or do on the touch screen not everyone wants to sit at a desk and send prints because still have to check the bed adhesion apply bed glue get rid of string filament before prints start. SonicPad has a larger screen interface with a larger bed level view point, more camera tuning & calibration options at the touch of a button and far easy to add to any slicer than manually added printers themselves. Also the Nebula pads screen touch response and scrolling is horrendous it's liked trying to scroll on a touch screen from a Gen 1 Apple phone knock off from the 90s does recognized touches incorrectly picks seipes as presses as the screen is not great to say the least. For the price you pay an $90 and you have a full tablet interface with way more touch advanced features without requiring a PC or laptop and unlike Root Access Klipper based nebula pads the SonicPad features and camera are still fully recognized & accessable by Creality cloud on a rooted nebula pad the camera is not accessible via cloud app only ip fluid or Mainsail & try talking that interface via a phone remotely it's like microscopic. Opinions are like arsewholes everyone's got one but unlike arsewholes user experience is what it's all about and the SonicPad can run more features than a nebula pad by x5. We all seem to flog mainsail fluid. Moonraker octo print but nebula pad isn't that and has 20% of the options and abilities a SonicPad has. Have all of these printers With a fan upgrade and a firmware flash I can get the SE to Run faster & produce better prints than a KE all day long. I'll be a video on this exact point in 1-2 weeks time with testing as point of reference. Not a dig at the content but merely at what everyone is clearly not realizing

[@greyyeti2447]

title says for the ender 3 but video does not show an ender 3

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

You are mistaken

[@greyyeti2447]

@@TheRealSamPrentice how am i mistaken when the title says ender 3 yet you use an ender 3 v3 se in the video which is a different version of the ender 3 so the title is misleading

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@greyyeti2447 it’s the same process for both and it’s not really my fault that there are so many Enders.

[@greyyeti2447]

@@TheRealSamPrentice when there are multiple versions of something one needs to specify which model in the title cus i have an ender 3 and followed your video step by step and didnt work as i wasn't getting any movement and a key 2022 warning and some time later i found out that no its not the the same process cus the ender 3 has the 4.2.2 mainboard and the nebula kit requires the 4.2.7 mainboard

[@hydeyotube5307]

ender 3?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Question or statement

[@WMH-3D-Printshop]

do not understand the mentality and attitude of such a company. you have so many options to make a good basic base for a standard setting on their version of klipper and choose to deliver a half finished product again then expect others to take over to improve it and then mosque in their next update and release them in their next update. volunteers like more or less do it cleanly and freely and mosques get some donations / coffee from other people.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I dont know what to tell you, its a process thing they have their way of doing things. I've been there in person and i'm due back, there is method for sure but the placing of ideas is jaded.

[@WMH-3D-Printshop]

well aware that not everyone works the same or has the same way of doing things. but as a technical designer/developer, if I don't have a good base to work from when I make a new product and am constantly two steps further along in the process in relation to what the product can develop. It just requires me to make too many changes to the product further along in the process. well aware that time costs money and you often have to be quick to come up with a new product so that you are not overtaken by your competitors.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I couldn’t agree more ! Their process seems to be we will open it up eventually, but when you’re dealing with software that you don’t own that should be open source you can’t control that or at least you shouldn’t.

[@traviskregear1695]

Thanks for the Video. I picked up the Nebula pad for my V3SE and i'm printing at speeds of 500 mm/s with 3000 mm/s acceleration. Thanks to Destinal and Guilouz for the hack. My only issue is as Creality rolls out Creality print 5.0 they are updating the firmware to add new features beyond what the rooted version has to offer. @TheRealSamPrentice if you have any pull at Creality for them to allow root access by default it would really make the Nebula pad a stellar upgrade.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I think they have already ?

[@traviskregear1695]

@@TheRealSamPrentice From what I can gather they have released open firmware 1.1.0.27 for the CR-10SE. However, this does not seem to work on the stand-alone Nebula pad upgrade. The latest stand-alone nebula pad firmware I can find is 1.1.0.26 which does not allow for root access. I have searched all over looking and I can not seem to find anything that works. If I'm wrong do you know where I can find the officially rooted firmware?

[@wangyao127]

@@traviskregear1695 I have the same question .when i ask the engineer the same question .they told me.cr-10se is only one version to provid root function. because the normal version is suit almost Creality machine. So They do not provide ROOT function version. I think they just don't want face lost of question to this machine .NO root =Not to much after sales question.

[@Impuritan1]

Which .bin file did you install onto the printer mainboard when you swapped to the Nebula pad? The .bin, from my understanding, is the .bin that’s included on the thumb drive that comes with the Nebula pad won’t work on the V3 SE. There is one that is bundled with the Nebula pad firmware from Creality’s site under “Ecosystem” and then there is one found under just the V3 SE section that is a bundle with updates for original screen and the printer itself. I can’t find which one to put onto the main board of the printer if you’re swapping to the Nebula pad. I’d rather just not mess with the factory screen and just put the Nebula on and go from there.

[@dc-solaceozplayed4655]

I upgraded my e3pro with this and my prints are absolute trash. I cannot for the life of me figure out why. My prints were flawless with just the old touch screen and firmware. The included firmware on the USB is garbage.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

I’d see to see some examples

[@dc-solaceozplayed4655]

Ok, how can I send pics? It only gives me an option to do a short 12 second video.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@dc-solaceozplayed4655 email is in the contact me part

[@MrThornton81]

I just got one for my ender 3 pro. I uploaded the firmware for the pad. Do I upload firmware for the printer itself aftrer?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@MrThornton81 yes