Creality Scan Raptor Vs Otter - Medium Object Scanning Experience

Fact about Otter
- There's frame limit at 10,000 frames. So, you cannot go beyond this (5:30 minutes) It will force user to stop scanning even when your hardware is capable of.
- Otter tracks faster in geometry mode, adding geometry to the object will help with tracking and it's much better than marker mode.
Fact about Raptor
- NIR cannot see black color in small radius curve shape in both geometry and marker mode.
- No frame limit found. Only warning at 10,000 frames.
- Blue laser scan smooth like butter.
Here's the link to my markers collection.
Magnetic Erasable Target Marker
skfb.ly/oVCZR
Over object feature
skfb.ly/oV7vV
Marker Tower
skfb.ly/oUKzC
Marker 30 deg
skfb.ly/oUNEO
Marker 60 deg
skfb.ly/oUNFx
Maker long distance target
skfb.ly/oURvQ
Music by Bensound
License code: PBEZH9FNR7Z26NNO
#creality #3dscanning #otter #raptor

[@AlexRios-ve4eo]

Gracias por hacer este tipo de videos, tengo el scanner otter hace poco y tus vídeos han sido de gran ayuda

[@android4cg]

Another excellent video! Your videos are really good with lot of useful information!

[@troyallen8090]

Hi, could you try the raptor in direct sunlight? or a very long scan with little detail (using markers) I hired a Einscan HD for a couple of weeks which worked great in the workshop but would lose tracking in direct sun or scanning a long object (2mtrs) even when using markers, the EinScan HX with blue laser was supposed to help but the HX is way out of my budget, While I understand the Raptor is a "Budget" Scanner your tests are proving it to be a very capable scanner.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

I'll try that.

[@grantthomas9027]

No results lol witch is best is all

[@user-cy1gv9bx9s]

Hello, what is the name of the program in which you clearly set the Z position?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

That would be CloudCompare.

[@stevesloan6775]

I’m struggling to understand how the Otter’s NIR can see the black object no problem, but the Raptors NIR can not see it at all. I would have thought that the Otter and raptor would share the same NIR scanning sensors. You didn’t say which you liked better in the end. It is strange that the otter is quite a bit heavier but physically much smaller. Thanks again. I really enjoy all of your videos. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

For this kind of object, I like Raptor more. It's a lot easier to scan.

[@stevesloan6775]

I would like to buy a scanner for automotive purposes. Using it for small objects right up to large full car scans. For example I’d like to scan the interior space of a car to create a race spec roll cage design in Fusion. That I can outsource all of the bending and notching to a specialised CNC bender notching machine. Please keep creating great content comparing these scanners.

[@stevesloan6775]

Also have you updated/flashed any new software versions since buying your scanners. I’d be super interested to see if it changed anything.

[@JHsadler]

Can you combine scans from IR mode and laser mode respectively taken with the Raptor? It would be nice to combine the texture with the accuracy of the laser

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Yes, and you can even combine scans from Raptor and Otter. Example, get rough detail of large object with Otter NIR large mode and scan high detail area with Raptor blue laser then merge them together.

[@matiasnruffa]

Hi, I was wondering which scanner you think is best between the otter and the raptor for scanning turbocharger impellers. I am currently using a revopoint mini and it's a nightmare.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

I've that Revopoint mini too. I know exactly how you feel. I'd recommend Raptor for mechanical object, it's easier to scan and the accuracy is high, up to 50 micron in my testing. But if you use Otter, the accuracy is lower, around 200 microns.

[@dage6949]

Can the raptor run on ryzen 7 or need at least core i7 gen 7 16 to 32gb ram and a decent gpu like rtx 4060 4070

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

The CPU shoud has at least 8 cores. I've tried it on Ryzen 5, 6 cores, it only scan at half the speed. 32 G of RAM and RTX 4060 is good enough.

[@dage6949]

@@Payo-TensileCreator thanks what your thought on a rog ally x for scanning and processing its 24gb ram

[@joewboe]

What's the largest objects you have scanned? I do small things as well as large things like car bumpers and center consoles. Any recommendations?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

My biggest scan is a car. I'm making video about it.

[@joewboe]

@@Payo-TensileCreator thank you

[@gg48gg]

Hi Payo. I recently bought a raptor. How do you think it would compare to the Einstar base model? Also, do you buy or print your markers? If buy, can you please post a link to buy the towers and also the angled dice?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

I don't have Einstar, but one of the Einstar share me his scan result. Raptor blue laser gives much better detail to my eyes. I've dropped the markers stuff link in the description. The V shape one I'll upload tomorrow.

[@gg48gg]

@@Payo-TensileCreator thank you!

[@tolgamemis3584]

screw holes etc for details on vehicle parts which is better einscan sp or raptor

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Raptor's blue laser can't scan deep surface, only 15-20mm deep. Otter's infrared can scan deeper but lesser detail.

[@tolgamemis3584]

@@Payo-TensileCreator shining einscan sp is good

[@user-cy1gv9bx9s]

Cool ! I agree that Raptor did a better job, but Otter, although more complex, has an excellent result, BUT Otter scans large objects better, my cup leans towards Otter

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Otter's large object dept camera when use in marker modes it tracks very well and need only 4-5 markers/m2, unlike in small/medium mode doesn't work well with markers but it tracks quite OK in geometry mode.

[@user-cy1gv9bx9s]

@@Payo-TensileCreator That’s right, if you compensate for the deficiency on small objects with a matting spray, even just a little, then Otter outperforms Raptor!) Or what other arguments are there in favor of Raptor?)

[@75keg75]

Can you do a wide scan on the raptor then zoom in to fill detail once it has markers?

[@kareldvo]

scanning with laser is incredible fast... Do you think about some turntable mode with stand?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

It would be more convenient to scan this with a turn table but the one I have is too small.

[@kareldvo]

Do you also tried turntable mode in application? I saw that check box is there

[@stevesloan6775]

@@kareldvogood question! I’d like to see it mounted to one of those photogrammetry automated turntables. It would work great at the Raptors 60 frames/sec. You could automate scanning thing very quickly. Throw in a of Ai wizardry and it could be magic.

[@AdamMaszynotwor]

🦾🦾

[@Justin-vq9co]

who else is jamming to the music right now?

[@slomo4056]

Thanks for the (again) great video. I want to ask if you could create an additional video where you give a deep dive in the steps that you performed in the program from 13:08 to merge the two point clouds? I do often have the same problem that merging using the builtin tool does not work and would really learn a way like you showed. How is that program called?

[@terranceroberts6259]

Is there a chance you could do a video on how to clean models up in Blender?. I’ve never tried to learn it and you made it look easy.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

I'm not a Blender expert but I'll make a video showing what I do to clean it in detail.

[@guilhermemorais6043]

@@Payo-TensileCreator também gostaria de aprender

[@FirenikoTube]

Merging- why you set point on oposite sides?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Usually, I'll try to pick 3 pairs of point as far as possible, so the software can distinguish the orientation of the 2 objects easier.

[@brokenengel7846]

Please advise me which scanner is the best and easy to use 😢

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

What kind of object are you scanning with?

[@olegtekutov5618]

Hello. What do you think is the best scanner for very small items? approximately 2-3 cm. thank you

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Raptor has highest resolution. It can scan 2mm cylinder perfectly.

[@olegtekutov5618]

@@Payo-TensileCreator thanks. what can you say about the Miraco scanner and Revopoint MINI 2? are they better or worse

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@@olegtekutov5618 I'd stay away from Revopoint's scanner. They're obsolete. Worse tracking performance, 5x slower FPS, can't see black and metallic. Otter or Raptor will give much better scanning experience. I've 3 scanners from Revopoint and been using them for years. I never touch those scanners again since I got Raptor/Otter.

[@olegtekutov5618]

@@Payo-TensileCreator thanks. your advice was very helpful to me

[@alekseye1915]

Good afternoon. Share pyramid stl files and other elements for markers. Thanks

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

I've dropped the link in the description.

[@alekseye1915]

@@Payo-TensileCreator Thanks a lot🤝

[@stevesloan6775]

I’m wondering if you could replace the raptors power cable with a swappable battery pack? Rig-up a battery from a quality power tool. Payo can you please tell me the Volts and amps the Raptor requires? Brainstorming 😑

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

It's 12V 2.0A. But it actually pulls less than 0.4 A and uses less power than Otter. The DC adaptor that comes with has 5.5mm DC jack positive. I use it with PD power bank that can supply 12V 3A and USB C to 5.5mm Jack adaptor, works just fine.

[@stevesloan6775]

@@Payo-TensileCreator Hi I’m looking to buy a PD power bank. Can you please tell me how many watt the output the power bank needs to be rated at? Also you said I need a 5.5mm Jack, but my research has shown me there are two types of 5.5mm jacks. There’s a 5.5*2.5mm and a 5.5*2.1mm. Are you able to tell me which one is correct for the Raptor please. Thank you Payo. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀☮️😎

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@@stevesloan6775 The PD cable I have is 5.5mm x 2.1mm (Positive) 12V 3A. So, if your power bank can supply 12V 40W PD, then it should work with this cable.

[@ctg222]

Hey mate - love the vids! How does the Otter go with scanning black boxes like the centre console of a car? Trying to decide between the Otter and the Revopoint Pop3 / Mini2 for products I design for cars that are 3D printed. Thanks heaps! Subbed!

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Dashboard and console, I'd recommend Otter in large object mode. Try to pair it with laptop with Nvidia GPU at least RTX4060. POP3 can't see black/metallic and scans speed is only 12 FPS versus 30 FPS in Otter.

[@ctg222]

@@Payo-TensileCreator great thanks mate. What about my ‘19 HP Spectre i7 w NVIDIA GTX 1050 16gb ram (4gb gddr5) 😂😂😅?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

I believe, that's not going to make it. You can expect less that 10 FPS with that PC.

[@kiztime1234]

I use IPA mixed with talc in spray bottle when scanning black objects. Easy to apply, easy to remove, costs very little.

[@Todestelzer]

If you buy a scanner for 1k you can buy a bottle scanning spray for 35€ as well. Aesub blue or orange.